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Post by aztecwin on Nov 11, 2012 10:04:21 GMT -8
The missing piece to the puzzle is Fire on the spear! If you light it, they will come. lol Funny, but loss of tradition may affect turnout among older folks. Kids don't have a clue about the "glory days". That is a different problem than the pathetic turnout of students. Tecpride has a point, but the turnout is still abysmal. Hope it grows with our team. Right now both the community turnout as a whole and the students in particular are shameful for a Town like this.
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Post by myownwords on Nov 11, 2012 10:07:43 GMT -8
I've lived here all my life and the answer is simple, but very difficult to solve. Until there is a consistent "buzz" about the team--in the city and on campus---there will not be any big surges in attendance.
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Post by JOCAZTEC on Nov 11, 2012 10:14:34 GMT -8
There are too many people scaring off the students. Either they intentional don't mention that the Aztec football games need their attendance or the deliberately attack "football" as an evil.
Hmm. Sounds like the last election.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2012 10:18:01 GMT -8
I am disappointed that the Greeks don't come out in large numbers. I was going to bring that up. I'm pretty sure the Greek system at SDSU is about dead thanks to the last 10 years, but The days when the Greeks were able to put their banners in the field level, there was a large turnout. The team weren't even very good. lol
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Post by Tom on Nov 11, 2012 10:31:38 GMT -8
I am disappointed that the Greeks don't come out in large numbers. I was going to bring that up. I'm pretty sure the Greek system at SDSU is about dead thanks to the last 10 years, but The days when the Greeks were able to put their banners in the field level, there was a large turnout. The team weren't even very good. The Greek system is on life support after years of gutting by Case and too many hard drug scandals. I'd look inward to the student populous that lives on campus and nearby. People always place blame on SDSU's marketing, but they have no mechanism to generate interest in a sport, that is on the shoulders of AS or individual students that can rally support on a personal level. Only the students themselves can decide if they want to like something, and only other students can make fans out of them naturally.
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Post by walkonfan on Nov 11, 2012 10:53:07 GMT -8
;D The weak response from todays alums to actualy buy tickets and attend games may stem from not going to football games as a student. They just don't have an affinity for AZTEC Football or athletics. At yesterdays game the seats were filled with parents and kids happy to come to the game because the kids were going to perform, but guest what they were exposed to the whole "AZTEC" football experience. I believe that will go a long way toward promoting a positive in these kids and parents about SDSU as a whole. Therefore: if the students don't use their tickets lets give them to groups that will want to come to the games for free either as spectators or other non profits like the group at yesterdays game. At least the paid for tickets will help to give some a free experience or gain positive support for the future...walkonfan...GO STATE!.
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Post by aztecfanatic on Nov 11, 2012 11:05:37 GMT -8
Another life-long San Diegan here. I think that you would have to have several top 10 finishes to create the 'buzz' that many posters have mentioned. The deep apathy that exists in both the students and the San Diego community is one of the main reasons that SDSU cannot be expected to compete with the BSU's of the college world on a regular basis. Yet, even with all that taken into consideration, a 40k average is not that difficult to achieve and we are actually , slowly, moving in the right direction. I am both discouraged and hopeful at the same time.
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Post by aztec70 on Nov 11, 2012 11:40:31 GMT -8
I don't understand this thread. In fact I've never understood any thread calling out a group of people for not attending a sporting event. Sure we give our friends a hard time if they miss a game for a stupid reason, but the reality is people are under no obligation to come to games. Students will come to games when it's decided that its the cool thing to do on campus and they know they will have fun. That will take a long time to develop. Just like basketball. It is because us old grads remember the spirit and the crowds that showed up when we were in school.
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Post by junior on Nov 11, 2012 11:47:06 GMT -8
At yesterdays game the seats were filled with parents and kids happy to come to the game because the kids were going to perform, but guest what they were exposed to the whole "AZTEC" football experience. I believe that will go a long way toward promoting a positive in these kids and parents about SDSU as a whole. Therefore: if the students don't use their tickets lets give them to groups that will want to come to the games for free either as spectators or other non profits like the group at yesterdays game. At least the paid for tickets will help to give some a free experience or gain positive support for the future...walkonfan...GO STATE!. And they all left as soon as their kids got off the field. By the fourth quarter, there was hardly a person left down in that area. The one thing that will certainly increase attendance is an expectation of winning. We're still in the era of an expectation of whining. I'd like to see more people at Aztec football games, but I'm GLAD that the people who ARE at the games are AZTEC FANS. Win games, and win them consistently, and more people will become fans. The last few seasons are a good start.
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Post by zbt69 on Nov 11, 2012 12:09:08 GMT -8
It is not just the students! Its the whole community of SD. This really hurts me to say this but SD doesn't deserve a big time football program. They would rather pay high ticket prices to fill the Q for the Chargers who could be gone from the community at anytime than support the local University. Lets see I will spend $200.00 to take my family to see a bad Charger team instead of $50 to $60 to see a very good college team. Maybe the community just isn't that smart!!!
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Post by SD Johnny on Nov 11, 2012 12:54:35 GMT -8
One word: Atmosphere. The atmosphere and energy at Viejas is amazing as well as the quality of the team and the venue. The quality of the football team is making strides but the atmosphere for college football at the Q is horrible. The stadium is an old crumbing, rusty mess with horrible sight lines and the fans are way too far away from the field to have a great atmosphere. The sound system and even the PA announcer are some of the worst I have ever heard. Compare the atmosphere at Viejas and the Q then you know why people don't fill the Q. Even walking around on game day there is 95% chargers decor. The Q does not even really feel like the Aztecs home stadium. New stadium needed to reach the next level. Agree 100%. The Q sucks for SDSU and I can't wait for the day that we have our own spot.
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Post by SD Johnny on Nov 11, 2012 12:57:22 GMT -8
The students don't go while they are at SDSU, so you can't expect them to want to go in the years after they graduate. THAT'S the big problem. People go through SDSU without any Aztec pride and our alumni support is weak because of it. This is changing. It started changing about two years ago.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Nov 11, 2012 14:18:38 GMT -8
Where to begin? Simply put, people only have so many entertainment dollars to spend. You're not exactly going to break the bank attending a couple of Aztec football games. It's not just dollars but time as well.
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Post by shedbasher on Nov 11, 2012 15:32:59 GMT -8
There has never been a large student following for football games........at least since 2004
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Post by SD Johnny on Nov 11, 2012 19:34:02 GMT -8
Attending a game at Viejas is the cool thing to do as the tickets are hard to come by and the atmosphere is electric. A game at qualcomm is half full so the atmosphere sucks and there is always 30,000 tickets available.
Football is actually at a much better place now then where basketball was in the Sports arena days. Building Viejas was a game changer for the basketball team. I think you'd see a similar game day experience with football if a similar venue was built for them on campus. I also think Sterk knows this.
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Post by 99levi on Nov 11, 2012 20:20:36 GMT -8
If I was a student, I'd get my free ticket and sit anywhere I wanted. Lot's of better seats avail. Maybe that's what they are doing. Or maybe again they dressed up as blue seats...
Winning creates Pride. It's tough to recover from a decade of losing but Aztec Football is doing it!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2012 20:33:38 GMT -8
On the topic of where the students are, I was also a little disappointed that after a HUGE win IN Boise that so few students showed up. How many students were even aware of the win over Boise? How many others heard about it but had no idea how dominant Boise has been on its home field? My dad who attended Minnesota told me that after they knocked off the #1 team in the county one year, the school president canceled classes for the next Friday and organized a late afternoon bonfire to wish the team well for its home game the following day. I'm not suggesting that a win over Boise was quite that big but I can't imagine an SDSU president ever doing anything like that.
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Post by aztec70 on Nov 11, 2012 22:40:03 GMT -8
Too many posters have said that the team has been bad so long that it will take a long time to overcome that history. I do not understand that. This year's juniors have had winning seasons every year. Nonetheless, I can do nothing to get them to games. They will have to do that themselves. I had a great time going to games in the late 1960's. I hope students can find that same joy that I had, and the memorys that I have to this day. Therefore, I am going to stop bad rapping the current students.
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Post by 1611Luginbill on Nov 11, 2012 23:10:06 GMT -8
If I was a student, I'd get my free ticket and sit anywhere I wanted. Lot's of better seats avail. Maybe that's what they are doing. This is a VERY important point that is lost on many here. That is why it would be great to see the number of student tickets distributed vs. used for the last 6-10 years.
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Post by alohaboarder on Nov 11, 2012 23:41:21 GMT -8
You don't see students because the marketing sucks, no tradition, and no unity.
Also, half the season ticket holders I sit near don't even know the rules of the game. It's quite sad and these tickets are 50 yard line plaza level. It will take a while for tickets to find themselves in the hands of real football fans.
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