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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2012 7:59:42 GMT -8
Stolen from the BLC message board, here 'tis:
2012-13 ESPN/BIG WEST BASKETBALL TELEVISION SCHEDULE Day/Date Contest Tipoff Carrier
ESPN COLLEGE HOOPS TIP-OFF MARATHON Tuesday, November 13 Houston Baptist at Hawai‘i 1:00 am ESPN
ANAHEIM CLASSIC • ANAHEIM CONVENTION CENTER ARENA Thursday, November 22 Pacific vs. Xavier 11:00 am ESPNU Friday, November 23 Pacific vs. Drexel/Saint Mary’s 12:30/3:00 pm ESPN2/ESPNU Sunday, November 25 Pacific vs. TBA TBA ESPN2/ESPNU/ESPN3
BIG WEST CONFERENCE REGULAR SEASON GAMES
Saturday, December 29 UC Santa Barbara at Cal State Fullerton TBA ESPNU Wednesday, January 9 Hawai‘i at UC Irvine TBA ESPNU Wednesday, January 30 UC Santa Barbara at Long Beach State TBA ESPNU Wednesday, February 13 Cal State Fullerton at Long Beach State TBA ESPNU Thursday, March 7 Wild Card game selected from: TBA ESPN2 Cal State Fullerton at UC Santa Barbara Long Beach State at UC Davis
Yep, just nine games, one-third of which feature a school which is playing its final season in the conference. Any guesses as to how much that will change in 2013-2014 after we join?
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Post by dreadhawk909 on Aug 10, 2012 8:11:07 GMT -8
Kinda surprised there will be televised games @ CSU Fullerton and @ UC Irvine.
I'm very interested in seeing if those fans actually show up, knowing it's on TV and all.
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 10, 2012 8:13:32 GMT -8
Stolen from the BLC message board, here 'tis: 2012-13 ESPN/BIG WEST BASKETBALL TELEVISION SCHEDULE Day/Date Contest Tipoff Carrier ESPN COLLEGE HOOPS TIP-OFF MARATHON Tuesday, November 13 Houston Baptist at Hawai‘i 1:00 am ESPN ANAHEIM CLASSIC • ANAHEIM CONVENTION CENTER ARENA Thursday, November 22 Pacific vs. Xavier 11:00 am ESPNU Friday, November 23 Pacific vs. Drexel/Saint Mary’s 12:30/3:00 pm ESPN2/ESPNU Sunday, November 25 Pacific vs. TBA TBA ESPN2/ESPNU/ESPN3 BIG WEST CONFERENCE REGULAR SEASON GAMES Saturday, December 29 UC Santa Barbara at Cal State Fullerton TBA ESPNU Wednesday, January 9 Hawai‘i at UC Irvine TBA ESPNU Wednesday, January 30 UC Santa Barbara at Long Beach State TBA ESPNU Wednesday, February 13 Cal State Fullerton at Long Beach State TBA ESPNU Thursday, March 7 Wild Card game selected from: TBA ESPN2 Cal State Fullerton at UC Santa Barbara Long Beach State at UC Davis Yep, just nine games, one-third of which feature a school which is playing its final season in the conference. Any guesses as to how much that will change in 2013-2014 after we join? The ANAHEIM CLASSIC isn't broadcast as part of their contract. It just happens to have a Big West team playing. The Hawaii game is part of ESPN's hoops tip-off marathon. It is more a fluke because Hawaii can have a game very late and ESPN wants 24 hours of coverage. 6 of the 7 regular season games involve LBSU and/or UCSB. Having 2 decent teams (LBSU and UCSB) gives a network only 2 good games (their 2 games against each other). Adding SDSU increases that to 6 good games. That is a big difference. Plus having all the SDSU games is much better than following LBSU and UCSB around. The new contract should be much better. Since the MWC can't get a new contract for a few years, there is a chance the Aztecs will make more in basketball alone via TV, than teams in the MWC get via all TV. That is because tier 3 rights will be very valuable to the Aztecs. Cox 4, Fox SD, and maybe some other wild card station will drive the price up. The Padres get 250K per game. I could see an Aztec game being just as valuable given the way interest has increased recently.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2012 8:56:52 GMT -8
Bill, I knew that conference didn't get many of its games on national TV - as opposed to the occasional game on FoxSports on KDOC out of Anaheim or some such thing. However, I thought it was about double what it is and the fact one-third of the games are apparently just coincidence makes it all the much worse. So you're correct about the need for SDSU to work its own TV deal. Hopefully if will be on FoxSD since I can't get Cox Channel 4. To see the Aztecs I'm willing to upgrade my DirecTV account to get FoxSD.
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Post by jdgaucho on Aug 10, 2012 9:52:14 GMT -8
Stolen from the BLC message board, here 'tis: 2012-13 ESPN/BIG WEST BASKETBALL TELEVISION SCHEDULE Day/Date Contest Tipoff Carrier ESPN COLLEGE HOOPS TIP-OFF MARATHON Tuesday, November 13 Houston Baptist at Hawai‘i 1:00 am ESPN ANAHEIM CLASSIC • ANAHEIM CONVENTION CENTER ARENA Thursday, November 22 Pacific vs. Xavier 11:00 am ESPNU Friday, November 23 Pacific vs. Drexel/Saint Mary’s 12:30/3:00 pm ESPN2/ESPNU Sunday, November 25 Pacific vs. TBA TBA ESPN2/ESPNU/ESPN3 BIG WEST CONFERENCE REGULAR SEASON GAMES Saturday, December 29 UC Santa Barbara at Cal State Fullerton TBA ESPNU Wednesday, January 9 Hawai‘i at UC Irvine TBA ESPNU Wednesday, January 30 UC Santa Barbara at Long Beach State TBA ESPNU Wednesday, February 13 Cal State Fullerton at Long Beach State TBA ESPNU Thursday, March 7 Wild Card game selected from: TBA ESPN2 Cal State Fullerton at UC Santa Barbara Long Beach State at UC Davis Yep, just nine games, one-third of which feature a school which is playing its final season in the conference. Any guesses as to how much that will change in 2013-2014 after we join? first off, you left out the conference tournament so that makes it 12 games - and that's at minimum. i think it will be more like 16 or 17 when all is said and done.
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Post by jdgaucho on Aug 10, 2012 9:54:37 GMT -8
worth posting again:
in addition to Pacific's two guaranteed games in the Anaheim Classic vs Xavier and St. Mary's/Drexel, They are at Gonzaga and they host Nevada. They already have St. Mary's on the schedule anyway so there could be two meetings overall. Have to figure Pacific gets a little extra pub.
With Long Beach State at home vs North Carolina and visiting Arizona, Syracuse, Ohio State and UCLA I expect at least two extra espn games and probably a CBS appearance.
UC Santa Barbara should grab an extra appearance as well with road trips to Cal, LSU and Illinois State.
Hawaii travels to UNLV and hosts Illinois.
there is no way our conference will have just 12 espn games.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2012 10:06:52 GMT -8
first off, you left out the conference tournament so that makes it 12 games - and that's at minimum. i think it will be more like 16 or 17 when all is said and done. The subject of debate is viability of the conference's TV deal to SDSU. Since ESPN networks broadcast every conference known to man, we could go to any conference which has an automatic bid to the NCAAs and be assured of that.
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Post by jdgaucho on Aug 10, 2012 10:15:52 GMT -8
The subject of debate is viability of the conference's TV deal to SDSU. Since ESPN networks broadcast every conference known to man, we could go to any conference which has an automatic bid to the NCAAs and be assured of that. even the MWC?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2012 10:58:04 GMT -8
The subject of debate is viability of the conference's TV deal to SDSU. Since ESPN networks broadcast every conference known to man, we could go to any conference which has an automatic bid to the NCAAs and be assured of that. even the MWC? No, not the MWC since it has no contract with ESPN. So I'll rephrase. Every conference known to man has its tournament nationally televised somewhere so the fact the BLC's is televised on ESPN is nothing to write home to mother about. (Dad neither.)
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Post by monty on Aug 10, 2012 11:38:36 GMT -8
beats a dozen games on outdoor.life network/versus/nbc cable
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Post by monty on Aug 10, 2012 11:39:17 GMT -8
ps I'm glad.we've decided on Big Lots
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Post by jdgaucho on Aug 10, 2012 11:43:11 GMT -8
ps I'm glad.we've decided on Big Lots Big Lots West, you mean. because it fits in the east as well with that clusterphunk of teams
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Post by jdgaucho on Aug 10, 2012 11:43:27 GMT -8
beats a dozen games on outdoor.life network/versus/nbc cable thank you!
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Post by monty on Aug 10, 2012 11:46:27 GMT -8
ps I'm glad.we've decided on Big Lots Big Lots West, you mean. because it fits in the east as well with that clusterphunk of teams Big Least has built a worldwide brand Big Lots is just a cluster
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2012 12:01:53 GMT -8
ps I'm glad.we've decided on Big Lots Big Lots West, you mean. because it fits in the east as well with that clusterphunk of teams Joining THAT clusterphuck figures to earn SDSU about $6M per year in TV dough. Also, Monty, props to you for the Big Lots suggestion but nobody else seems to be using it so "we" probably = just u and me.
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Post by monty on Aug 10, 2012 12:46:46 GMT -8
Big Lots West, you mean. because it fits in the east as well with that clusterphunk of teams Joining THAT clusterphuck figures to earn SDSU about $6M per year in TV dough. Also, Monty, props to you for the Big Lots suggestion but nobody else seems to be using it so "we" probably = just u and me. Wait, there are other people here?
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Post by yougotslaughtered on Aug 10, 2012 13:02:55 GMT -8
Kinda surprised there will be televised games @ CSU Fullerton and @ UC Irvine. I'm very interested in seeing if those fans actually show up, knowing it's on TV and all. Going off of my two year stint at Cal State Fullerton...the gym is no bigger than Peterson Gym. Their student section is called the Orange Curtain and its simply a joke compared to The Show. Literally, The Show could fill up the entire gym of Fullerton. The student fan base is marginal at best as it is Orange County and LA's biggest commuter campus. When ESPN covers a game at Fullerton, yaaa more kids will show up I guess...but when all is said and done, it's a frikin joke. Irvine is pretty much the same, if not worse. I got to believe ESPN DESPISES covering games there because its SOOO small of gyms, the kids and the fans dont REALLY care, theyre just there to get drunk and cuss on tv and the games arent all that exciting a lot of the times. Now when SDSU gets into the league, I truly hope it brings up the talent of the teams in the Big West, and we can get something comparable to the WCC, at least in terms of ESPN WANTING to cover a game at a small gym. Example being St. Mary's....cause when the gym is PACKED with TRUE die hard fans of a small school like that, you can feel it through the TV. The passion just isnt there at all with Fullerton, Irvine, Northridge, Riverside etc.
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Post by jdgaucho on Aug 10, 2012 13:10:47 GMT -8
Big Lots West, you mean. because it fits in the east as well with that clusterphunk of teams Big Least has built a worldwide brand Big Lots is just a cluster So anything Seton Hall, Providence, SMU or Depaul touches turns to gold. Got it
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Post by missiontrails on Aug 10, 2012 13:11:09 GMT -8
Well, there's also....
Big Bus Conf Bus West Conf Big Gym Conf (contrast with Big Arena Conf) JDGaucho's Conf (he's their biggest supporter/defender apparently) UNLV's Prior And Future Conf Big Triton Conf (when UCSD slips in - and I hope they do someday) Temp Resting Place Until Big East-West-All-Sports Kicks in Conf (TRPUBEWASKIC)
Take your pick....
(disclaimer) I'm not necessarily a Big West detractor. The sky's not falling on our basketball program (in my opinion), and we'll either find something better in a few years, or some bigger/better basketball schools will soon be joining us out west.
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Post by jdgaucho on Aug 10, 2012 13:13:39 GMT -8
Kinda surprised there will be televised games @ CSU Fullerton and @ UC Irvine. I'm very interested in seeing if those fans actually show up, knowing it's on TV and all. Going off of my two year stint at Cal State Fullerton...the gym is no bigger than Peterson Gym. Their student section is called the Orange Curtain and its simply a joke compared to The Show. Literally, The Show could fill up the entire gym of Fullerton. The student fan base is marginal at best as it is Orange County and LA's biggest commuter campus. When ESPN covers a game at Fullerton, yaaa more kids will show up I guess...but when all is said and done, it's a frikin joke. Irvine is pretty much the same, if not worse. I got to believe ESPN DESPISES covering games there because its SOOO small of gyms, the kids and the fans dont REALLY care, theyre just there to get drunk and cuss on tv and the games arent all that exciting a lot of the times. Now when SDSU gets into the league, I truly hope it brings up the talent of the teams in the Big West, and we can get something comparable to the WCC, at least in terms of ESPN WANTING to cover a game at a small gym. Example being St. Mary's....cause when the gym is PACKED with TRUE die hard fans of a small school like that, you can feel it through the TV. The passion just isnt there at all with Fullerton, Irvine, Northridge, Riverside etc. funny you mention the WCC. no one has been giving that league enough credit. They are one of the biggest winners in conference realignment. BYU is right at home there and Pacific returns.
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