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Post by yougotslaughtered on Aug 10, 2012 13:15:48 GMT -8
I think I can see "The TRPUBEWASKIC Championship" taking up half the court on a big sticker, causing every player to slip. And it will still be played in the Anaheim Senior Citizen Center, right after Bingo and Arts & Crafts hour
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Post by jdgaucho on Aug 10, 2012 13:16:23 GMT -8
Well, there's also.... Big Bus Conf Bus West Conf Big Gym Conf (contrast with Big Arena Conf) JDGaucho's Conf (he's their biggest supporter/defender apparently) UNLV's Prior And Future Conf Big Triton Conf (when UCSD slips in - and I hope they do someday) Temp Resting Place Until Big East-West-All-Sports Kicks in Conf (TRPUBEWASKIC) Take your pick.... I have shown an endorsement of Big Lots. and Monty's "BUS" League - the Brotherhood of Urban Sportsmen - gets my support too
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Post by jdgaucho on Aug 10, 2012 13:21:21 GMT -8
I can see it now. "TRPUBEWASKIC Championship" posters, T-shirts, maybe even cup holders or decals. Market it to retirement homes in OC. the possibilities are endless
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Post by missiontrails on Aug 10, 2012 13:28:52 GMT -8
Well, there's also.... Big Bus Conf Bus West Conf Big Gym Conf (contrast with Big Arena Conf) JDGaucho's Conf (he's their biggest supporter/defender apparently) UNLV's Prior And Future Conf Big Triton Conf (when UCSD slips in - and I hope they do someday) Temp Resting Place Until Big East-West-All-Sports Kicks in Conf (TRPUBEWASKIC) Take your pick.... I have shown an endorsement of Big Lots. and Monty's "BUS" League - the Brotherhood of Urban Sportsmen - gets my support too You're a good man Gaucho. A hand-clap to you for your loyalty (and good humor).
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Post by yougotslaughtered on Aug 10, 2012 13:31:29 GMT -8
Ya know, I gotta say jdgaucho...people may give you $#!+ cause UCSB is in the TRPUBEWASKIC, but when I was going to Fullerton...I made sure we headed up to Santa Barbara every time there was a game there. There is a gigantic difference from UCSB compared to most every other school in the conference. I dont hate on ya for supporting the Gauchos...its a really fun place to catch a game and I KNOW they're going to be a continued competitor for however long State is in the same conference.
Plus, am I too old to still party at DP??! haha
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Post by monty on Aug 10, 2012 13:48:50 GMT -8
Big Least has built a worldwide brand Big Lots is just a cluster So anything Seton Hall, Providence, SMU or Depaul touches turns to gold. Got it no douche, Big Least is already a good slam name, Big Lots better fits the La bus league. I forgot about the BUS league, I'm going to pat myself on the back with one for that, and on the other for big lots, oh $#!+, I just dropped my beer
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Post by beefeater on Aug 10, 2012 15:16:55 GMT -8
Kinda surprised there will be televised games @ CSU Fullerton and @ UC Irvine. I'm very interested in seeing if those fans actually show up, knowing it's on TV and all. Going off of my two year stint at Cal State Fullerton...the gym is no bigger than Peterson Gym. Their student section is called the Orange Curtain and its simply a joke compared to The Show. Literally, The Show could fill up the entire gym of Fullerton. The student fan base is marginal at best as it is Orange County and LA's biggest commuter campus. When ESPN covers a game at Fullerton, yaaa more kids will show up I guess...but when all is said and done, it's a frikin joke. Irvine is pretty much the same, if not worse. I got to believe ESPN DESPISES covering games there because its SOOO small of gyms, the kids and the fans dont REALLY care, theyre just there to get drunk and cuss on tv and the games arent all that exciting a lot of the times. Now when SDSU gets into the league, I truly hope it brings up the talent of the teams in the Big West, and we can get something comparable to the WCC, at least in terms of ESPN WANTING to cover a game at a small gym. Example being St. Mary's....cause when the gym is PACKED with TRUE die hard fans of a small school like that, you can feel it through the TV. The passion just isnt there at all with Fullerton, Irvine, Northridge, Riverside etc. I'm not going to split hairs, so if you want to say that UCI's fan support and arena is small compared to SDSU and that it is more like Fullerton than it is like SDSU, fair enough. But, if you are going to compare Fullerton to UCI get a couple things straight. (1) UCI has a MUCH better facility. (2) Fullerton won 20 games, UCI lost 20 games. UCI still brings in more fans than Fullerton. You obviously haven't been around long enough to know what the Bren can be like when we have a good team that people want to watch. The other thing is that about half of the WCC is in the same ballpark as the BWC in terms of fan support and facility size. The reason ESPN wants to broadcast WCC games is because of GONZAGA, primarily and BYU and SMC secondarily. You only need a couple marquee teams to shine a light on the conference, and make people, like yourself, overlook the fact that the rest of the conference isn't anything special.
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Post by beefeater on Aug 10, 2012 15:37:46 GMT -8
Ya know, I gotta say jdgaucho...people may give you $#!+ cause UCSB is in the TRPUBEWASKIC, but when I was going to Fullerton...I made sure we headed up to Santa Barbara every time there was a game there. There is a gigantic difference from UCSB compared to most every other school in the conference. I dont hate on ya for supporting the Gauchos...its a really fun place to catch a game and I KNOW they're going to be a continued competitor for however long State is in the same conference. Plus, am I too old to still party at DP??! haha Wow, you must be a serious bandwagoner. Did you ever go to UCSB when Fullerton SUCKED and nobody gave a crap about showing up for them? Congrats on trading up to SDSU. The bandwagon is already full, but apparently there is always room for one more.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2012 16:01:16 GMT -8
funny you mention the WCC. no one has been giving that league enough credit. They are one of the biggest winners in conference realignment. BYU is right at home there and Pacific returns. I agree that has been an extremely well managed conference. The WCC benefits from having some very nice locations and some small but very pretty campuses. I've seen USD, Loyola, Pepperdine, Santa Clara and USF and all have great architecture. Don't know about Portland and Gonzaga and whatever other school I can't think of immediately. It's a misconception to think as many do that that conference has been built solely around Gonzaga. Before Gonzaga ever got good, USF had Bill Cartright and Quentin Dailey (and Russell and K.C. Jones long before that) and Loyola had Hank Gathers and the rest. And Pepperdine had some excellent teams in the Dennis Johnson days in the early eighties. In comparison, except for Long Beach and UNLV in the Tark days, the PCAA/Big Lots really hasn't done diddly squat in basketball. Although it doesn't apply to UCSB and Cal Poly, I attribute that mainly to having boring commuter campuses. The atmosphere simply doesn't lend itself to luring out of state stud athletes who want a true college experience.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2012 16:03:12 GMT -8
You're a good man Gaucho. A hand-clap to you for your loyalty (and good humor). Agreed.
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Post by yougotslaughtered on Aug 10, 2012 16:05:56 GMT -8
You're a pleasant person to be around huh? Somebody needs to lighten up!
I dont know why anybody should have to defend their allegiance, but basically I was born and raised in SD, been going to Aztec games since I was 4 at Peterson Gym and The Sports Arena...went up to Fullerton for 2 years and came back to San Diego. Really that big of a deal that I transfered schools? haha My bad.
Being righteous like that doesnt make anybody respect you more, pal.
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Post by jdgaucho on Aug 10, 2012 16:15:57 GMT -8
cpalum said it best about our conference. bolded parts are my highlights: "As far as the Big West (I think the Big Sky is a different animal) it may be that you, like me remember the Big West and PCAA of years past which was a more compelling conference. When you think about the PCAA/BWC of old you think about San Jose, SDSU, UNLV and other schools that have now moved on to greener pastures. I'm happy for those programs but I miss the quality and the regional relevance those schools brought to the conference. As you pointed out above, in the 90s-00s the Big West went through an exodus of programs and lost football. As a fan that was a huge let down and when they back-filled their membership many schools were not as good and/or did not provide the regional interest that they once had. Anyway that was 20 years ago and since that time I think the conference has added some solid programs. Cal Poly and UC Davis and now Hawaii and SDSU. Times have changed...these schools are far more ambitous than the Northridges and UCR's that seem to be the punchline of every BWC joke. As a Poly fan I don't mind kicking Davis for a lack of ambition ...I'm just not sure it is true. They have arguably the best facilities in the conference and have been willing to invest....they have not performed as well as they should but if any school in the conference has real potential upside it has to be Davis. There is a point to this seemingly off topic post. The Big West was left for dead in the early 00s....They went through some rough spots but as of 2012 they have added quality programs, they have very solid baseball and one of the best soccer conferences in the country. Basketball is sub par but looks to be improving. It doesn't look much like the PCAA/Big West of my youth but it is stable, regionally relevant and growing its brand and doing it without football. The WAC would be well advised to take a hard look at how the Big West got through that tough time to be as solid as it is now." mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=451&f=2368&t=9176263&p=15
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2012 17:01:17 GMT -8
At least for the majority of its members, the Cal-NOW settlement destroyed football so the conference can't be blamed at all for no longer playing that sport. What its members CAN be blamed for is the lack of foresight (and maybe guts) to say that they were going to take a portion, maybe half, of the savings from shutting down football and apply it to building modern gyms of the kind most of the WCC has managed. UCSB has a small but nice venue, as does Long Beach. However, the places CSUN and UCR call home are a complete embarrassment. Average community college level at best. I haven't been inside Fullerton's or UCI's but on the tube, they look like only a minor step up from that. In other words, they hold twice as many fans but still don't have many if any theater seats nor any seats behind the backboards. It's no wonder UOP wanted out.
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Post by monty on Aug 10, 2012 17:09:41 GMT -8
seeing as only 10/16 of our conf. games this year are on nat. tv and we're expected to be pretty good, it can't get any worse in Big Lots.
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Post by monty on Aug 10, 2012 17:10:42 GMT -8
I have shown an endorsement of Big Lots. and Monty's "BUS" League - the Brotherhood of Urban Sportsmen - gets my support too You're a good man Gaucho. A hand-clap to you for your loyalty (and good humor). It's impossible to get the guy riled up and that makes me really angry
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2012 17:16:07 GMT -8
seeing as only 10/16 of our conf. games this year are on nat. tv and we're expected to be pretty good, it can't get any worse in Big Lots. Oh yes it can. Doesn't matter that much though because if the BE doesn't expand its western division into all sports, SDSU, Boise and Fresno will create a new western Olympic conference. If we take UCSB and Cal Poly along with us, the conference can change its name from Big Lots to 99 Cent Only.
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Post by monty on Aug 10, 2012 17:23:29 GMT -8
seeing as only 10/16 of our conf. games this year are on nat. tv and we're expected to be pretty good, it can't get any worse in Big Lots. Oh yes it can. Doesn't matter that much though because if the BE doesn't expand its western division into all sports, SDSU, Boise and Fresno will create a new western Olympic conference. If we take UCSB and Cal Poly along with us, the conference can change its name from Big Lots to 99 Cent Only. NBC Cable is like the Dollar Tree and CBS college is like the guy on the freeway off ramp selling naranjas
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Post by jdgaucho on Aug 10, 2012 17:29:42 GMT -8
funny you mention the WCC. no one has been giving that league enough credit. They are one of the biggest winners in conference realignment. BYU is right at home there and Pacific returns. I agree that has been an extremely well managed conference. The WCC benefits from having some very nice locations and some small but very pretty campuses. I've seen USD, Loyola, Pepperdine, Santa Clara and USF and all have great architecture. Don't know about Portland and Gonzaga and whatever other school I can't think of immediately. It's a misconception to think as many do that that conference has been built solely around Gonzaga. Before Gonzaga ever got good, USF had Bill Cartright and Quentin Dailey (and Russell and K.C. Jones long before that) and Loyola had Hank Gathers and the rest. And Pepperdine had some excellent teams in the Dennis Johnson days in the early eighties. In comparison, except for Long Beach and UNLV in the Tark days, the PCAA/Big Lots really hasn't done diddly squat in basketball. Although it doesn't apply to UCSB and Cal Poly, I attribute that mainly to having boring commuter campuses. The atmosphere simply doesn't lend itself to luring out of state stud athletes who want a true college experience. One reason I chose UCSB among others was so I could have a real college experience, live away from home, etc. Spent my whole life in OC and unlike most of my hometown peers, I had no intentions of commuting to UCI or CSUF after my juco days. I wanted out. as to the whole boring commuter campus feel affecting the quality of play, I disagree somewhat. There are some pretty good ballers in Orange County. You have Disneyland right next door (Fullerton) and Irvine is not far away. With Long Beach, you can tap into the Los Angeles market. I would put more weight on the coaching more than anything else. Dan Monson is the proof of that. I have never been to Pacific, Riverside or Northridge so I cannot say anything about their feel but I would say Pacific is not a commuter school. I certainly know UC Davis is not
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Post by monty on Aug 10, 2012 17:30:26 GMT -8
From the great tvguru mattsarz on mwcboard.com:
Here's a list so far for conference games
UNLV at New Mexico CBS Sports Network HD 1/9/2013 Colorado St. at San Diego St. NBC Sports Network HD 1/12/2013 UNLV at San Diego St. CBS Sports Network HD 1/16/2013 UNLV at Colorado St. NBC Sports Network HD 1/19/2013 San Diego St. at Nevada CBS Sports Network HD 1/23/2013 Wyoming at UNLV CBS Sports Network 1/24/2013 9:00:00 PM ET New Mexico at San Diego St. NBC Sports Network HD 1/26/2013 Nevada at UNLV CBS Sports Network HD 1/30/2013 Nevada at New Mexico NBC Sports Network HD 2/2/2013 Colorado St. at Nevada CBS Sports Network HD 2/6/2013 Fresno St. at San Diego St. CBS Sports Network HD 2/9/2013 New Mexico at UNLV NBC Sports Network 2/9/2013 San Diego St. at Colorado St. CBS Sports Network HD 2/13/2013 San Diego St. at UNLV NBC Sports Network HD 2/16/2013 Colorado St. at UNLV CBS Sports Network HD 2/20/2013 Nevada at San Diego St. NBC Sports Network HD 2/23/2013 San Diego St. at New Mexico CBS Sports Network HD 2/27/2013 UNLV at Nevada NBC Sports Network 3/2/2013 New Mexico at Nevada CBS Sports Network 3/6/2013 Nevada at Colorado St. CBS Sports Network HD 3/9/2013 San Diego St. at Boise St. NBC Sports Network HD 3/9/2013
No releases yet from NM, CSU, AFA, WYO or Fresno St., so there may be a few more games on the list. Right now there is one NBCSN game each Saturday through the entire conference schedule.
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Post by monty on Aug 10, 2012 17:36:16 GMT -8
All games involve SDSU, UNM, UNLV or are CSU vs Nevada (the expected 4th and 5th best teams in conf.
The MWC (Yard Sale Conf? - slogan: every team must go) tv deal is basically as bad as Big Lots
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