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Post by SDAztec on Jan 14, 2011 10:36:08 GMT -8
What you say is hearsay. You weren't there, I was. (unless you were there and if you were you need to idenify yourself) I was not there. I told you, I know someone who was there. How do you think I have this info. If you were not there, then enough has been said on the topic. It is obviously information that is not meant to be discussed publicly, otherwise Steve would have posted more.
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Post by Steve Aztec on Jan 14, 2011 10:37:51 GMT -8
I'm getting the feeling that what began as a PM exchange between a couple of you on this topic has spilled over into a public airing of personal disagreements. A bit like a bar fight that has migrated to the street outside. Maybe such exchanges should be kept at the PM level since they really are not central to the issue, which in this case is the question of whether Zuma is a stealth mascot-in-waiting. (Please note that I am posting this as WLR, which, as I have explained on other occasions, gives the message a more official stamp.) WLR No spill over Bill. FMichigan PM'd me 5 times yesterday to try and get info on the meeting, although he/she knew the time of the meeting. After the meeting FMichigan again tried to PM and talk about things. I politely told him/her I didn't wish to talk about it on PM. Then FMichigan came on this thread playing game. I don't know who this person is, and I don't care. He/she is trying to ruin the thread though and I'm not responding to this person again on this thread. ***Although I will correct him/her on any lies they tell about the meeting.
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Post by AzTX on Jan 14, 2011 10:38:17 GMT -8
Hahaha this is hilarious..
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Post by buck on Jan 14, 2011 10:39:16 GMT -8
I don't really care about Zuma, nor do I care for him, but fmichigan is coming off as a huge douche. Like, really huge.
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Post by longtimebooster on Jan 14, 2011 10:39:54 GMT -8
Steve, thanks for the update and the continued attention to this matter.
IMO, Zuma must go. In that vein, I'll re-post something that I wrote on another thread after the UNLV game:
My wife came to the game with me last night (Miracle. She had a great time, BTW, and almost put the eye out of the guy behind us while waving her towel.) First thing she said was (and I'm not making this up), "Are we playing BYU? I thought we were playing UNLV."
"No, honey, we're definitely playing the Rebels."
"Well, then, what's that mountain lion doing running around?"
"Long story. But it's not a mountain lion, it's a jaguar."
"A what?"
"A jaguar. Who knew, but the Aztecs apparently liked jaguars."
"That's just stupid. So did they get rid of Monty?"
"Not yet. He's running around somewhere."
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Post by Steve Aztec on Jan 14, 2011 10:41:10 GMT -8
Steve, thanks for the update and the continued attention to this matter. IMO, Zuma must go. In that vein, I'll re-post something that I wrote on another thread after the UNLV game: My wife came to the game with me last night (Miracle. She had a great time, BTW, and almost put the eye out of the guy behind us while waving her towel.) First thing she said was (and I'm not making this up), "Are we playing BYU? I thought we were playing UNLV." "No, honey, we're definitely playing the Rebels." "Well, then, what's that mountain lion doing running around?" "Long story. But it's not a mountain lion, it's a jaguar." "A what?" "A jaguar. Who knew, but the Aztecs apparently liked jaguars." "That's just stupid. So did they get rid of Monty?" "Not yet. He's running around somewhere." Classic LTB and my eye got whacked twice by the lady next me. We both laughed....Great times.
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Post by 1611Luginbill on Jan 14, 2011 10:43:58 GMT -8
So do you all still think that the athletic deparment is still trying to replace the aztec warrior with Zuma?
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Post by AztecSports95 on Jan 14, 2011 10:46:26 GMT -8
You know what's funny - the more people complain about Zuma, the more I don't care if he actually DOES take over as the official mascot. I really don't care. It means squat to me. You know what is important? Our teams winning. Our student athletes graduating. The university continuing to grow its reputation as an outstanding academic institution (not necessarily all in that order).
For those of you who have dedicated your lives to "saving the mascot," sorry, I just can't get that fired up about it anymore. If The Aztec Warrior were to go away, you know how my life would change? IT WOULD NOT. It just wouldn't. It is so ridiculously ridiculous that this argument is still going on.
This ranks up there in San Diego with the Soledad Cross, the Seals in La Jolla and moving the airport. All arguments that will never see an end. And with that, this will be my last post ever - EVER - on the topic.
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Post by elazteca on Jan 14, 2011 10:46:32 GMT -8
Good work, Steve! Thanks for the report. I have always been disturbed by the political correctness that rules so much of the academic world. Having said that, I guess I am not too sorry that "Monty" was replaced by the Aztec Warrior. As a retired Spanish teacher I am thoroughly familiar with the history of the Spanish conquest of Mexico and the role Montezuma II (or Moctezuma, if you prefer) played in that epoch. Perhaps we should have used Cuauhtémoc (who came to the thrown later and is better thought of in Mexico than Moctezuma II) rather than Monty as a mascot. The problem with Zuma is two-fold. First, as has been pointed out many times, he looks more like a cougar (ugh!) than a jaguar. Second, why have two mascots? I can't think of any other school that has two mascots, though there may be some. Too bad this whole thing has gotten political, but I don't think the vast majority of Aztec fans are responsible for that. AzWm Last night at this meeting William, it was agreed by both sides that zuma is not a mascot of the school. Well it's nice that they agree but whatever they want to call it there ARE two mascots. Thanks to Steve, and all the other board members who are trying to keep Monty. Yes I said Monty.
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Post by AzTX on Jan 14, 2011 10:51:38 GMT -8
So do you all still think that the athletic deparment is still trying to replace the aztec warrior with Zuma? I'm still pissed they replaced the true tradition of San Diego State — the Wampus Cat — with some spear-toting, feather-laden guy running around in his undies. I've tried to keep it under wraps, but I'm actually one of the people behind Zuma. Here's the scoop.. as a nickname and mascot, the "Aztec" is currently circling the drain. It's days are numbered. There are a lot of things going on behind closed doors that you all aren't privy to. These "Zuma meetings" are just a dog and pony show to allow some groups to seem like they actually have a say in the matter. We suggested Zuma as a transitional figure to reintroduce and condition SDSU fans to having an anthropomorphic feline as a mascot, and although it's been rejected by certain demographics, it will still remain. Once the monkier "Aztec" is eliminated and we go back to our true roots as the Wampus Cats, you'll understand how this all came about. Don't fight it. WC4L (Wampus Cat for Life).
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Post by aztecfan on Jan 14, 2011 10:54:38 GMT -8
thanks for the report. Long Live Monty Montezuma!!!!
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Post by Montezuma on Jan 14, 2011 10:58:48 GMT -8
Dumb...da..da..da...dumb.
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Post by 1611Luginbill on Jan 14, 2011 10:59:30 GMT -8
I'm still pissed they replaced the true tradition of San Diego State — the Wampus Cat — with some spear-toting, feather-laden guy running around in his undies. I've tried to keep it under wraps, but I'm actually one of the people behind Zuma. Here's the scoop.. as a nickname and mascot, the "Aztec" is currently circling the drain. It's days are numbered. There are a lot of things going on behind closed doors that you all aren't privy to. These "Zuma meetings" are just a dog and pony show to allow some groups to seem like they actually have a say in the matter. We suggested Zuma as a transitional figure to reintroduce and condition SDSU fans to having an anthropomorphic feline as a mascot, and although it's been rejected by certain demographics, it will still remain. Once the monkier "Aztec" is eliminated and we go back to our true roots as the Wampus Cats, you'll understand how this all came about. Don't fight it. WC4L (Wampus Cat for Life). Will the Daily Aztec go back to one of its true original names, the Paper Lantern? /Cranks telephone to make call...checks pocketwatch to see how much longer before heading to TGIF at the local speakeasy.
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Post by ucsdaztec on Jan 14, 2011 11:15:31 GMT -8
fmichigan, I am not an expert in how to use a message board but what you are doing isn't it.
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Post by fmichigan on Jan 14, 2011 11:49:55 GMT -8
I was not there. I told you, I know someone who was there. How do you think I have this info. My last post to you on this thread...Go play your games somewhere else. I'm not playing games Steve. Just disappointed that your a liar and can't be honest.
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Post by hoobs on Jan 14, 2011 12:02:16 GMT -8
I can see it now... in 2015 we'll be the SDSU Jaguars.
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Post by Pssst13 on Jan 14, 2011 12:05:05 GMT -8
I'm getting the feeling that what began as a PM exchange between a couple of you on this topic has spilled over into a public airing of personal disagreements. A bit like a bar fight that has migrated to the street outside. Maybe such exchanges should be kept at the PM level since they really are not central to the issue, which in this case is the question of whether Zuma is a stealth mascot-in-waiting. (Please note that I am posting this as WLR, which, as I have explained on other occasions, gives the message a more official stamp.) WLR You should add Mr... This will make it official ;D
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Post by thomgeno on Jan 14, 2011 12:10:56 GMT -8
fmichigan must be Schnall.
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Post by Pssst13 on Jan 14, 2011 12:13:33 GMT -8
Steve, thanks for the update and the continued attention to this matter. IMO, Zuma must go. In that vein, I'll re-post something that I wrote on another thread after the UNLV game: My wife came to the game with me last night (Miracle. She had a great time, BTW, and almost put the eye out of the guy behind us while waving her towel.) First thing she said was (and I'm not making this up), "Are we playing BYU? I thought we were playing UNLV." "No, honey, we're definitely playing the Rebels." "Well, then, what's that mountain lion doing running around?" "Long story. But it's not a mountain lion, it's a jaguar." "A what?" "A jaguar. Who knew, but the Aztecs apparently liked jaguars." "That's just stupid. So did they get rid of Monty?" "Not yet. He's running around somewhere." My wife (also an AZTEC Alum) said something a little different about Zuma. When we got there she asked why BYU changed colors. She wanted to walk over to president Weber after I told her who Zuma was. My wife' Best Friend (USD Alum) was looking forward to checking out Monty's Abs and instead she saw fury abs... She was pissed. She said she will join the movement to get rid of Zuma. She's one Torrero who is down with the AZTECS.
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Post by 83aztec on Jan 14, 2011 12:19:43 GMT -8
If Zuma is not a mascot why is there? Why does he exist at all? Zuma does need to go away.
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