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Post by LostAztec on Nov 13, 2024 9:19:18 GMT -8
I will bottom line this bit%h session. Coach Lewis isn’t getting fired. He will have at least 4 years to put his players and system in place. Sadly. I ran the math on his buyout numbers. JD signed a bad contract from SDSU's pov. His total contract $9,765,500. After Jan 31, 2025 that drops to $8 mil. We would owe him 75% of that number or $6 mil if we cut bait now. The payout drops to $4.6 mil after 2025.Then $3.58 mil after 2026. After Feb 1 of 2027 he is guaranteed the balance of the $4.2 mil for his last two seasons of his contract. www.sandiegouniontribune.com/2023/11/29/sdsus-sean-lewis-will-make-500k-more-than-brady-hoke-did-under-terms-of-new-contract/ |
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Post by aztech on Nov 13, 2024 11:06:34 GMT -8
I will bottom line this bit%h session. Coach Lewis isn’t getting fired. He will have at least 4 years to put his players and system in place. Sadly. I ran the math on his buyout numbers. JD signed a bad contract from SDSU's pov. His total contract $9,765,500. After Jan 31, 2025 that drops to $8 mil. We would owe him 75% of that number or $6 mil if we cut bait now. The payout drops to $4.6 mil after 2025.Then $3.58 mil after 2026. After Feb 1 of 2027 he is guaranteed the balance of the $4.2 mil for his last two seasons of his contract. www.sandiegouniontribune.com/2023/11/29/sdsus-sean-lewis-will-make-500k-more-than-brady-hoke-did-under-terms-of-new-contract/One would think Wicker learned his lesson from the Hoke buyout. If Wicker ever becomes a loan officer in a bank I want to be his first customer. LOL |
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Post by myownwords on Nov 13, 2024 11:47:25 GMT -8
Does Wicker have a buyout?
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Post by standiego on Nov 13, 2024 12:34:21 GMT -8
was the UNLV OC available for SDSU to select as HC instead of Lewis
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Post by aztecdan8 on Nov 13, 2024 12:44:45 GMT -8
I hate how the days of having roster consistency from year to year is going away. It bodes terribly for the basketball program as others have said, you only need to look at guys being snatched up by Arizona, Kentucky, Virginia, Ohio State in the last few years. As I have said before, the NCAA had decades to get it right but were too blinded by greed to figure anything out. Now the horse is out of the barn and not coming back and in my opinion college sports is way worse off for it.
Now the horse is out of the barn and not coming back and in my opinion college sports is way worse off for it."
-This about sums it up perfectly. Agreed. Though I'd add the NCAA's ego, arrogance, power-madness and tone deafness. Throw in corruption and sliminess as well. What was the old Jerry Tarkanian quote ... “The NCAA was so mad at Kentucky they gave Cleveland State two more years of probation.” |
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Post by Boise Aztec on Nov 13, 2024 12:57:55 GMT -8
I haven’t checked in much lately… been busy… quite surprised to see this flowing along…
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Post by Den60 on Nov 13, 2024 13:26:26 GMT -8
I will bottom line this bit%h session. Coach Lewis isn’t getting fired. He will have at least 4 years to put his players and system in place. It seems his system is a complex one. If important players transfer out each season every year will be a "learning" year. That doesn't seem likely to work. Time will tell. That is why traditional recruiting is so important. I think there are only two players on this team that have played in Lewis' offensive system before, Cooper and Harrison. On defense, I don't know but I recall coming into the season there were questions regarding the d-line and secondary. |
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Post by Den60 on Nov 13, 2024 13:27:48 GMT -8
was the UNLV OC available for SDSU to select as HC instead of Lewis Yes, he interviewed. Never been a head coach at the collegiate level before. He is still at UNLV. The other name mentioned most was Tony White who is still the DC at Nebraska. |
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Post by Den60 on Nov 13, 2024 13:29:08 GMT -8
I haven’t checked in much lately… been busy… quite surprised to see this flowing along… FIRE BOISE AZTEC, HE'S NOT EVEN PAYING ATTENTION!!! |
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Post by Boise Aztec on Nov 13, 2024 13:43:11 GMT -8
was the UNLV OC available for SDSU to select as HC instead of Lewis Yes, he interviewed. Never been a head coach at the collegiate level before. He is still at UNLV. The other name mentioned most was Tony White who is still the DC at Nebraska. Marion interviewed really, really well… he was a real candidate |
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Post by LostAztec on Nov 13, 2024 13:49:21 GMT -8
was the UNLV OC available for SDSU to select as HC instead of Lewis I doubt he interviewed anyone else after being "wowed". Was PT Barnum correct in this case ? |
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Post by LostAztec on Nov 13, 2024 13:53:49 GMT -8
It seems his system is a complex one. If important players transfer out each season every year will be a "learning" year. That doesn't seem likely to work. Time will tell. That is why traditional recruiting is so important. I think there are only two players on this team that have played in Lewis' offensive system before, Cooper and Harrison. On defense, I don't know but I recall coming into the season there were questions regarding the d-line and secondary. It's flat out stupid to have a complex system in this day and age. At this level you get kids for one to two years tops, except for injury. You need a system they can learn quickly, then build off of it as they grasp and execute it. Let players build, grow and develop off the success of simplicity instead of the failures of complexity. |
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Post by jp92grad on Nov 13, 2024 14:26:51 GMT -8
That is why traditional recruiting is so important. I think there are only two players on this team that have played in Lewis' offensive system before, Cooper and Harrison. On defense, I don't know but I recall coming into the season there were questions regarding the d-line and secondary. It's flat out stupid to have a complex system in this day and age. At this level you get kids for one to two years tops, except for injury. You need a system they can learn quickly, then build off of it as they grasp and execute it. Let players build, grow and develop off the success of simplicity instead of the failures of complexity. and Bingo was his name'o Simple concept to start with along with a top notch conditioning program that could pay dividends year after year. |
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Post by myownwords on Nov 13, 2024 14:50:03 GMT -8
I haven’t checked in much lately… been busy… quite surprised to see this flowing along… Not certain what the process was for hiring Lewis, but it is growing increasingly apparent that "swagger" played a bigger role than it should have. I bought into it, but should our "leadership" have swooned, or looked deeper? Lewis' path to greatness feels feeble and slapdash. |
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Post by jp92grad on Nov 13, 2024 15:07:18 GMT -8
I haven’t checked in much lately… been busy… quite surprised to see this flowing along… Not certain what the process was for hiring Lewis, but it is growing increasingly apparent that "swagger" played a bigger role than it should have. I bought into it, but should our "leadership" have swooned, or looked deeper? Lewis' path to greatness feels feeble and slapdash. When you really look at his body of work, it's really not all that impressive. The thing that is really lacking is experience from a true experienced D1 OC/QB type coach, kind of like a bench coach in MLB someone to bounce ideas off and give some advice once in a while. |
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Post by Boise Aztec on Nov 13, 2024 16:07:09 GMT -8
I haven’t checked in much lately… been busy… quite surprised to see this flowing along… Not certain what the process was for hiring Lewis, but it is growing increasingly apparent that "swagger" played a bigger role than it should have. I bought into it, but should our "leadership" have swooned, or looked deeper? Lewis' path to greatness feels feeble and slapdash. You may be right, I won’t be willing to say until this time next year… |
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Post by Boise Aztec on Nov 13, 2024 16:18:19 GMT -8
Not certain what the process was for hiring Lewis, but it is growing increasingly apparent that "swagger" played a bigger role than it should have. I bought into it, but should our "leadership" have swooned, or looked deeper? Lewis' path to greatness feels feeble and slapdash. When you really look at his body of work, it's really not all that impressive. The thing that is really lacking is experience from a true experienced D1 OC/QB type coach, kind of like a bench coach in MLB someone to bounce ideas off and give some advice once in a while. Take another look… the MAC has won 15% of their games against the SEC… Kent State 2018 - Illinois, PSU, Ole Miss 2019 - ASU, Auburn, Wisky 2021 - Texas A&M, Maryland, Iowa 2022 - Washington, Oklahoma, Georgia He was 24-19 against teams he had a chance to win against. |
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Post by smoothcat on Nov 13, 2024 16:26:55 GMT -8
One would think Wicker learned his lesson from the Hoke buyout. If Wicker ever becomes a loan officer in a bank I want to be his first customer. LOL I would get rid of Wicker before I would get rid of Lewis...if only because of the buyout numbers mentioned on Lewis above and the fact that it is his first year on the job. But if the team continues to look like this next season, these two guys might drive the program out of existence...literally. |
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Post by perch on Nov 13, 2024 16:32:26 GMT -8
Look at Wickers body of work.
1. ridiculous extension of Hoke
2. extenson of womens BB coach who has been simply awful
3. new baseball coach who led the team to last place last year
4. and now Lewis??
What is next?
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Post by Den60 on Nov 13, 2024 17:01:40 GMT -8
That is why traditional recruiting is so important. I think there are only two players on this team that have played in Lewis' offensive system before, Cooper and Harrison. On defense, I don't know but I recall coming into the season there were questions regarding the d-line and secondary. It's flat out stupid to have a complex system in this day and age. At this level you get kids for one to two years tops, except for injury. You need a system they can learn quickly, then build off of it as they grasp and execute it. Let players build, grow and develop off the success of simplicity instead of the failures of complexity. A freshman who doesn't start still practices and learns the system. Same with a sophomore. You bring in freshmen each year so you always have that one-to-two years for them to develop into starters. If they get poached by a P4 that can pay them more, and money is what they are looking for, then that will happen. We are not at the top of the food chain, we are in the 3rd tier and that isn't going to change in the next 6 years. You just keep recruiting and keep having players that, at the very least, are familiar with the system they are playing. Lewis and his staff, outside of Lindley, all came in after much of the freshmen class had committed. I am sure some of Lewis recruits from that class stayed committed to Colorado. You might be surprised to know that kids looking at P2 and P4 schools are likely not high probable gets for us as of yet We might have a couple of freshmen/sophomore players who may get poached that come to mind, Jordan Napier and Trey White. They may even leave for a P4 and immediately contribute. Or they can be like a Bryce Pope who left UCSD for money at USC just to ride the bench in his last year of eligibility. He's played 4 minutes against Chattanooga and came away with 1 rebound and 1 foul. He didn't even get in the game against powerhouse Idaho St. Doubt he sees much time this year, especially when USC gets into conference play. We will have some players that leave just for more playing time which would be a lateral or less move. You can't do much to control such things. You bring in players so you have depth to deal with those players who will leave. That is the nature of the game nowadays. I've always said that the type of coach we can attract is either going to be a retread who may have had a HC job at a power school or some younger guy who might be an "up and comer." We went with the latter this year while wanting someone to put in an offense that the fans said they wanted. |
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