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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Nov 12, 2024 21:22:56 GMT -8
Anyone thinking that legal immigrants are going to be deported are watching too much of The View. That's completely ridiculous and would be illegal. Come site this again when you see that happening If we're able to end the Ukraine war, Israel/Gaza conflict is over, inflation stays in good order, and the economy is running smoothly, are any of the blue no matter who folk in here going to utter anything good about this administration? You guys are so closed minded and in such groupthink that Trump could literally cure cancer and you'd find a way to vilify him for it. Do some actual objective, free thinking I'll have no problem criticizing him and the administration if he doesn't deliver on the things that matter BTW I'm not saying I'm predicting all those wars will be over anytime soon, I'm saying IF that happens will people even be able to say anything good about him What do you think denaturalization means? His mismanagement of the pandemic led to hundreds of thousands of deaths. He illegally retained national defense information and shared that information with hostile governments. He literally initiated a coup to try and halt the certification of votes in an election he admitted to losing. There's nothing good that needs to be said. The Supreme Court opened Pandora's box and we'll soon see what that entails. The states mismanaged the pandemic, not Trump. That was a golden opportunity for Trump to be a "facist", but he did the opposite and conceded power to let the states do what they wanted. California was stupid enough to allow the government to shut businesses down while the politicians didnt even believe their own policies. It was so dangerous to send kids to in person schools, yet Newsome had his kids go to in person private schools. It was also too dangerous to have businesses stay open, yet Newsome's winery remained open. It was also too dangerous to keep restaurants open, but Newsome went out to eat indoors with an 8+ person dinner party at the French Laundry. Meanwhile the states who stayed open were fine relative to those who didn't. The decision of the liberal states shutting everything down for COVID will prove to be the biggest governmental blunder (unless it was corruption) in American History, but it wasn't due to Trump. Plus, more people died under Biden than they did under Trump during COVID Don't even get me started on COVID - that's the worst argument you could possibly have |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 12, 2024 21:23:32 GMT -8
I agree! Look at my orange man bar at 33% for speaking truth that did not fit a pre-defined agenda. Interesting. I wonder if he's only handing out warning levels to posters who don't align with his views. or Trump voters. If that's the case, then he shouldn't be an Administrator if he can't keep himself in check, or stay out of the discussions if he can't control himself in that regard. Or you could recognize obvious trolling and bad faith arguments? |
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Post by johneaztec on Nov 12, 2024 21:31:47 GMT -8
Interesting. I wonder if he's only handing out warning levels to posters who don't align with his views. or Trump voters. If that's the case, then he shouldn't be an Administrator if he can't keep himself in check, or stay out of the discussions if he can't control himself in that regard. Or you could recognize obvious trolling and bad faith arguments? Question. When Erik states that ALL Republicans speak poorly of individuals, amongst other things, is that trolling? Did he give himself a warning level? His quotes are there. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 12, 2024 21:42:49 GMT -8
What do you think denaturalization means? His mismanagement of the pandemic led to hundreds of thousands of deaths. He illegally retained national defense information and shared that information with hostile governments. He literally initiated a coup to try and halt the certification of votes in an election he admitted to losing. There's nothing good that needs to be said. The Supreme Court opened Pandora's box and we'll soon see what that entails. The states mismanaged the pandemic, not Trump. That was a golden opportunity for Trump to be a "facist", but he did the opposite and conceded power to let the states do what they wanted. California was stupid enough to allow the government to shut businesses down while the politicians didnt even believe their own policies. It was so dangerous to send kids to in person schools, yet Newsome had his kids go to in person private schools. It was also too dangerous to have businesses stay open, yet Newsome's winery remained open. It was also too dangerous to keep restaurants open, but Newsome went out to eat indoors with an 8+ person dinner party at the French Laundry. Meanwhile the states who stayed open were fine relative to those who didn't. The decision of the liberal states shutting everything down for COVID will prove to be the biggest governmental blunder (unless it was corruption) in American History, but it wasn't due to Trump. Plus, more people died under Biden than they did under Trump during COVID Don't even get me started on COVID - that's the worst argument you could possibly have ....Full stop. The response to the pandemic is a federal one. It's a globalized phenomenon, not a regional, local or state matter. The states didn't throw out the pandemic response playbook, Trump's administration did. Individual states are not responsible for stockpiling PPE and the coordination of a national strategy, the federal government is. www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Health/trump-claim-12-states-orders-coronavirus-supplies-unfilled/story%3fid=71946598In fact, the administration chose to reward certain contracts and allocate resources to more "friendly" companies and loyalists: www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1191236So, 100% false. The Newsom stuff is so overplayed, yes, politicians suck and are elitists. The same thing happened with politicians in other areas. Rules for thee, not for me. It's not unique to Newsome or any liberal policy. Of course more people died under the Biden administration, the first case of COVID was discovered in mid-January 2020. Trump was only president for a year following that first case; he's still responsible for more than 400,000 deaths in a single year. His administration was caught unaware, even though they were warned months in advance. His actions led to a lot of excess death and an undermining in public health confidence. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 12, 2024 21:43:57 GMT -8
Or you could recognize obvious trolling and bad faith arguments? Question. When Erik states that ALL Republicans speak poorly of individuals, amongst other things, is that trolling? Did he give himself a warning level? His quotes are there. He said "Republicans." |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Nov 12, 2024 21:51:12 GMT -8
I agree! Look at my orange man bar at 33% for speaking truth that did not fit a pre-defined agenda. Interesting. I wonder if he's only handing out warning levels to posters who don't align with his views. or Trump voters. If that's the case, then he shouldn't be an Administrator if he can't keep himself in check, or stay out of the discussions if he can't control himself in that regard. Dude, you know better than that. Warnings are based on behavior, not politics. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Nov 12, 2024 21:52:02 GMT -8
Or you could recognize obvious trolling and bad faith arguments? Question. When Erik states that ALL Republicans speak poorly of individuals, amongst other things, is that trolling? Did he give himself a warning level? His quotes are there. Show me one quote where I said, "All." I'll wait. |
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Post by johneaztec on Nov 12, 2024 22:04:14 GMT -8
Interesting. I wonder if he's only handing out warning levels to posters who don't align with his views. or Trump voters. If that's the case, then he shouldn't be an Administrator if he can't keep himself in check, or stay out of the discussions if he can't control himself in that regard. Dude, you know better than that. Warnings are based on behavior, not politics. You said Republicans. You didn't say "some" Republicans. That's what I'm talking about when I say 'all." You generalized. That's not good. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 12, 2024 22:07:13 GMT -8
Dude, you know better than that. Warnings are based on behavior, not politics. You said Republicans. You didn't say "some" Republicans. That's what I'm talking about when I say 'all." You generalized. That's not good. "Some" would be generalizing. Instead of focusing on words, why don't you point your trigger towards the behavior of bad faith posters? |
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Post by johneaztec on Nov 12, 2024 22:10:45 GMT -8
You said Republicans. You didn't say "some" Republicans. That's what I'm talking about when I say 'all." You generalized. That's not good. "Some" would be generalizing. Instead of focusing on words, why don't you point your trigger towards the behavior of bad faith posters? Making something more widespread than it really is, is generalizing, such as when he says Republicans, instead of some Republicans out there, so to speak. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 12, 2024 22:20:04 GMT -8
"Some" would be generalizing. Instead of focusing on words, why don't you point your trigger towards the behavior of bad faith posters? Making something more widespread than it really is, is generalizing, such as when he says Republicans, instead of some Republicans out there, so to speak. Says...you? Cool. Again, you're giving a pass to people you agree with. |
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Post by johneaztec on Nov 12, 2024 22:34:31 GMT -8
Making something more widespread than it really is, is generalizing, such as when he says Republicans, instead of some Republicans out there, so to speak. Says...you? Cool. Again, you're giving a pass to people you agree with. Not me, Websters, so yeah, cool. You don't need to tell me what I think. There you go again, starting crap. I may not necessarily agree with everything they're saying, but I don't think it's trolling. What you may think is trolling or lying, to me may seem to be an opinion from someone, or someone that's misinformed. A lot of what's said on here is of opinion. I already said before that I believe it's not trolling if someone truly believes what they're saying. For example, if Erik truly believes that Republicans, in which to me he's saying all, are horrible people then he's just misinformed, and not trolling. Do you not believe that there's people out there that believe in the things that politicians say, Trump for example, but are absolutely ridiculous? Heck, you've said that some people that you don't agree with, Republicans/Trump supporters are brainwashed, so how can they be trolling? |
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Post by sdsuball on Nov 12, 2024 22:41:03 GMT -8
The whole economy thing is overblown anyways. Most presidents do little that impacts the economy compared to events outside their control, and citizens vote more on if the economy is 'good/bad', not if the president's policies were good/bad (ie. made the best/worst out of the situation). But it is why Kamala shouldn't have been the presidential nominee, given her ties to the Biden's administration's economy. Makes zero sense. It makes perfect sense. Voters care about the economy as it impacts them. Voters don't understand how economic policy works. Voters think that the president controls the economy, when in reality the president only play a small role in it. Voters DO understand how inflation works (ie. goods cost more). Voters were unhappy that goods cost more - therefore, they were unhappy with Biden's economic policy. The Democrats should have selected a leader that was not tied to the Biden presidency. |
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Post by johneaztec on Nov 12, 2024 23:10:53 GMT -8
It makes perfect sense. Voters care about the economy as it impacts them. Voters don't understand how economic policy works. Voters think that the president controls the economy, when in reality the president only play a small role in it. Voters DO understand how inflation works (ie. goods cost more). Voters were unhappy that goods cost more - therefore, they were unhappy with Biden's economic policy. The Democrats should have selected a leader that was not tied to the Biden presidency. Yes, and the President, in some cases, is like a Head Coach in Sports. He gets all the praise and the backlash even if it's not his own doing. It's his Administration, his appointees and it's under his watch. |
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Post by aztecbrothers on Nov 13, 2024 6:45:48 GMT -8
I agree! Look at my orange man bar at 33% for speaking truth that did not fit a pre-defined agenda. Interesting. I wonder if he's only handing out warning levels to posters who don't align with his views. or Trump voters. If that's the case, then he shouldn't be an Administrator if he can't keep himself in check, or stay out of the discussions if he can't control himself in that regard. Yea, its like FEMA getting caught skipping hurricane disaster victims that had Trump signs displayed, and the Costal Commission telling SpaceX that they could not do any more test launches because Musk is supporting Trump and not politically aligned with them. The Democrats mission statement "The Party of Discrimination and Exclusion"....align with us or we will f^ck with you. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Nov 13, 2024 7:06:40 GMT -8
Interesting. I wonder if he's only handing out warning levels to posters who don't align with his views. or Trump voters. If that's the case, then he shouldn't be an Administrator if he can't keep himself in check, or stay out of the discussions if he can't control himself in that regard. Yea, its like FEMA getting caught skipping hurricane disaster victims that had Trump signs displayed, and the Costal Commission telling SpaceX that they could not do any more test launches because Musk is supporting Trump and not politically aligned with them. The Democrats mission statement "The Party of Discrimination and Exclusion"....align with us or we will f^ck with you. You got that warning level the old fashioned way. You earned it.  |
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Post by North County Aztec on Nov 13, 2024 7:07:54 GMT -8
Interesting. I wonder if he's only handing out warning levels to posters who don't align with his views. or Trump voters. If that's the case, then he shouldn't be an Administrator if he can't keep himself in check, or stay out of the discussions if he can't control himself in that regard. Yea, its like FEMA getting caught skipping hurricane disaster victims that had Trump signs displayed, and the Costal Commission telling SpaceX that they could not do any more test launches because Musk is supporting Trump and not politically aligned with them. The Democrats mission statement "The Party of Discrimination and Exclusion"....align with us or we will f^ck with you. Sickening. It was Highlands County, Florida, where this happened. A FEMA democrat supervisor named Marni Washington put out this directive. After she was fired she went on to suggest she was the scapegoat with orders from the top. Ummm the Big Guy? |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 13, 2024 7:58:31 GMT -8
It makes perfect sense. Voters care about the economy as it impacts them. Voters don't understand how economic policy works. Voters think that the president controls the economy, when in reality the president only play a small role in it. Voters DO understand how inflation works (ie. goods cost more). Voters were unhappy that goods cost more - therefore, they were unhappy with Biden's economic policy. The Democrats should have selected a leader that was not tied to the Biden presidency. No, it makes zero sense. Her ties to a strong economy? All you're saying is voters are too dumb to figure out the truth. That's it. That's an electorate problem, not a candidate problem. How that isn't seen is incredible. It's obvious. We have dumbed down society to the point where they can't think for themselves. Economic factors are driven by simple supply and demand. Coming out of a global pandemic where the US printed hundreds of billions (nearly a trillion) in COVID relief checks, where SUPPLY chains were disrupted, where DEMAND bottomed out and then rose again to pre-pandemic levels....of course you're going to have inflation. A moron could figure that out. That's before you even get to the invasion of Ukraine by Russia, which sent fuel prices skyrocketing and strained global resources. No candidate was going to overcome false realities. Inflation was inevitable. You're making excuses for people that are too dumb to do literally ten minutes of research. And you're once again ignoring the fact that anyone but Harris would have started a campaign, from scratch, in August. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 13, 2024 7:59:44 GMT -8
Yea, its like FEMA getting caught skipping hurricane disaster victims that had Trump signs displayed, and the Costal Commission telling SpaceX that they could not do any more test launches because Musk is supporting Trump and not politically aligned with them. The Democrats mission statement "The Party of Discrimination and Exclusion"....align with us or we will f^ck with you. Sickening. It was Highlands County, Florida, where this happened. A FEMA democrat supervisor named Marni Washington put out this directive. After she was fired she went on to suggest she was the scapegoat with orders from the top. Ummm the Big Guy? It's no different than the president withholding federal aid to wildfire-ravaged blue states because they aren't "loyal" to him. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 13, 2024 8:37:05 GMT -8
It makes perfect sense. Voters care about the economy as it impacts them. Voters don't understand how economic policy works. Voters think that the president controls the economy, when in reality the president only play a small role in it. Voters DO understand how inflation works (ie. goods cost more). Voters were unhappy that goods cost more - therefore, they were unhappy with Biden's economic policy. The Democrats should have selected a leader that was not tied to the Biden presidency. No, it makes zero sense. Her ties to a strong economy? All you're saying is voters are too dumb to figure out the truth. That's it. That's an electorate problem, not a candidate problem. How that isn't seen is incredible. It's obvious. We have dumbed down society to the point where they can't think for themselves. Economic factors are driven by simple supply and demand. Coming out of a global pandemic where the US printed hundreds of billions (nearly a trillion) in COVID relief checks, where SUPPLY chains were disrupted, where DEMAND bottomed out and then rose again to pre-pandemic levels....of course you're going to have inflation. A moron could figure that out. That's before you even get to the invasion of Ukraine by Russia, which sent fuel prices skyrocketing and strained global resources. No candidate was going to overcome false realities. Inflation was inevitable. You're making excuses for people that are too dumb to do literally ten minutes of research. And you're once again ignoring the fact that anyone but Harris would have started a campaign, from scratch, in August. Shocked, I say. |
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