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Post by North County Aztec on Nov 12, 2024 10:30:44 GMT -8
1. Where did I say they were illegal? Why would anyone think they must be illegal just because they are Mexicans? I can't imagine making that kind of racist judgement. I said they voted. 2. Wrong again. If you believe deportations are going to be limited to undocumented immigrants....that's quaint, I suppose. The administration already said they are going to denaturalize individuals. Miller said so himself. Not racist. I knew what your response would be, not considering that legal immigrants stand to be deported, too. It's ignorance of the highest order for people to vote based on a lack of accurate information. And yes, billions in taxes. Get informed. 71,881,361 did
When did reality become the uninformed?
BTW: Denaturalization can occur when you lie on your application or in your naturalization interview about prior or current affiliations. For example, the U.S. government denaturalizes individuals who didn't disclose they were or currently are in a terrorist party (e.g., the Nazi Party or Al-Qaeda).
In a nutshell; a naturalized citizen can be denaturalized if they obtained naturalization illegally, through the concealment of a material fact, or by willful misrepresentation. They law is clear. Get informed.
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 12, 2024 10:36:19 GMT -8
If you believe deportations are going to be limited to undocumented immigrants....that's quaint, I suppose. The administration already said they are going to denaturalize individuals. Miller said so himself. Not racist. I knew what your response would be, not considering that legal immigrants stand to be deported, too. It's ignorance of the highest order for people to vote based on a lack of accurate information. And yes, billions in taxes. Get informed. 71,881,361 did When did reality become the uninformed?
BTW: Denaturalization can occur when you lie on your application or in your naturalization interview about prior or current affiliations. For example, the U.S. government denaturalizes individuals who didn't disclose they were or currently are in a terrorist party (e.g., the Nazi Party or Al-Qaeda). In a nutshell; a naturalized citizen can be denaturalized if they obtained naturalization illegally, through the concealment of a material fact, or by willful misrepresentation. They law is clear. Get informed.
We're in two different libraries here. I'm talking about naturalized citizens being denaturalized, not under existing law, but under a widespread campaign of hate. Three million less votes than 2020? Congrats. Seems wildly popular. The reality is you're not up to speed here and that's unfortunate, but stating that immigrants don't pay a cent in taxes is outright false. |
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Post by aardvark on Nov 12, 2024 10:47:18 GMT -8
71,881,361 did When did reality become the uninformed?
BTW: Denaturalization can occur when you lie on your application or in your naturalization interview about prior or current affiliations. For example, the U.S. government denaturalizes individuals who didn't disclose they were or currently are in a terrorist party (e.g., the Nazi Party or Al-Qaeda). In a nutshell; a naturalized citizen can be denaturalized if they obtained naturalization illegally, through the concealment of a material fact, or by willful misrepresentation. They law is clear. Get informed.
We're in two different libraries here. I'm talking about naturalized citizens being denaturalized, not under existing law, but under a widespread campaign of hate. Three million less votes than 2020? Congrats. Seems wildly popular. The reality is you're not up to speed here and that's unfortunate, but stating that immigrants don't pay a cent in taxes is outright false. Who got 3 million less votes? Trump has so far received over 75 million votes--roughly 1 million more than 2020. Harris received the almost 72 million figure listed above--roughly 9 million less than Biden received in 2020. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 12, 2024 11:00:33 GMT -8
We're in two different libraries here. I'm talking about naturalized citizens being denaturalized, not under existing law, but under a widespread campaign of hate. Three million less votes than 2020? Congrats. Seems wildly popular. The reality is you're not up to speed here and that's unfortunate, but stating that immigrants don't pay a cent in taxes is outright false. Who got 3 million less votes? Trump has so far received over 75 million votes--roughly 1 million more than 2020. Harris received the almost 72 million figure listed above--roughly 9 million less than Biden received in 2020. Right. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Nov 12, 2024 13:18:57 GMT -8
It's a shame that we can't have a conversation about the most important part of life without getting derailed.
How you treat others - with kindness, compassion, empathy, and courtesy, or with anger, derision, and cruelty - is what defined you as a person.
What kind of behavior you tolerate and excuse also defines you.
Treating people badly for identity reasons is utterly unacceptable.
Criticizing people for their actions is understandable and rational (to a point - violence is never acceptable).
I've seen so much ugly behavior towards minorities, gays, transgender people, etc, based solely on who and what they are that I've become disgusted with a lot of people on the right. There is no excuse for that behavior. It is inhumane.
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Post by sdsuball on Nov 12, 2024 15:29:08 GMT -8
71,881,361 did When did reality become the uninformed?
BTW: Denaturalization can occur when you lie on your application or in your naturalization interview about prior or current affiliations. For example, the U.S. government denaturalizes individuals who didn't disclose they were or currently are in a terrorist party (e.g., the Nazi Party or Al-Qaeda). In a nutshell; a naturalized citizen can be denaturalized if they obtained naturalization illegally, through the concealment of a material fact, or by willful misrepresentation. They law is clear. Get informed.
We're in two different libraries here. I'm talking about naturalized citizens being denaturalized, not under existing law, but under a widespread campaign of hate. Three million less votes than 2020? Congrats. Seems wildly popular. The reality is you're not up to speed here and that's unfortunate, but stating that immigrants don't pay a cent in taxes is outright false. And why exactly do you believe that will happen? Consider too that Trump courted the Latino vote. |
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Nov 12, 2024 15:35:38 GMT -8
Anyone thinking that legal immigrants are going to be deported are watching too much of The View. That's completely ridiculous and would be illegal. Come site this again when you see that happening
If we're able to end the Ukraine war, Israel/Gaza conflict is over, inflation stays in good order, and the economy is running smoothly, are any of the blue no matter who folk in here going to utter anything good about this administration? You guys are so closed minded and in such groupthink that Trump could literally cure cancer and you'd find a way to vilify him for it. Do some actual objective, free thinking
I'll have no problem criticizing him and the administration if he doesn't deliver on the things that matter
BTW I'm not saying I'm predicting all those wars will be over anytime soon, I'm saying IF that happens will people even be able to say anything good about him
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Post by azson on Nov 12, 2024 16:26:39 GMT -8
Anyone thinking that legal immigrants are going to be deported are watching too much of The View. That's completely ridiculous and would be illegal. Come site this again when you see that happening If we're able to end the Ukraine war, Israel/Gaza conflict is over, inflation stays in good order, and the economy is running smoothly, are any of the blue no matter who folk in here going to utter anything good about this administration? You guys are so closed minded and in such groupthink that Trump could literally cure cancer and you'd find a way to vilify him for it. Do some actual objective, free thinking I'll have no problem criticizing him and the administration if he doesn't deliver on the things that matter BTW I'm not saying I'm predicting all those wars will be over anytime soon, I'm saying IF that happens will people even be able to say anything good about him Please name one positive thing he did for the country during this first term - and no, riding on the previous admin's strong economy coattails and calling it his own doesn't count. |
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Post by sdsuball on Nov 12, 2024 17:20:37 GMT -8
Anyone thinking that legal immigrants are going to be deported are watching too much of The View. That's completely ridiculous and would be illegal. Come site this again when you see that happening If we're able to end the Ukraine war, Israel/Gaza conflict is over, inflation stays in good order, and the economy is running smoothly, are any of the blue no matter who folk in here going to utter anything good about this administration? You guys are so closed minded and in such groupthink that Trump could literally cure cancer and you'd find a way to vilify him for it. Do some actual objective, free thinking I'll have no problem criticizing him and the administration if he doesn't deliver on the things that matter BTW I'm not saying I'm predicting all those wars will be over anytime soon, I'm saying IF that happens will people even be able to say anything good about him Please name one positive thing he did for the country during this first term - and no, riding on the previous admin's strong economy coattails and calling it his own doesn't count. The whole economy thing is overblown anyways. Most presidents do little that impacts the economy compared to events outside their control, and citizens vote more on if the economy is 'good/bad', not if the president's policies were good/bad (ie. made the best/worst out of the situation). But it is why Kamala shouldn't have been the presidential nominee, given her ties to the Biden's administration's economy. |
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Nov 12, 2024 17:26:01 GMT -8
Stephen (Heinrich Himmler) Miller is working with A-hole Homan to denaturalize citizens with Hispanic last names.
Miller sucks, always will!
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Post by johneaztec on Nov 12, 2024 17:32:38 GMT -8
Anyone thinking that legal immigrants are going to be deported are watching too much of The View. That's completely ridiculous and would be illegal. Come site this again when you see that happening If we're able to end the Ukraine war, Israel/Gaza conflict is over, inflation stays in good order, and the economy is running smoothly, are any of the blue no matter who folk in here going to utter anything good about this administration? You guys are so closed minded and in such groupthink that Trump could literally cure cancer and you'd find a way to vilify him for it. Do some actual objective, free thinking I'll have no problem criticizing him and the administration if he doesn't deliver on the things that matter BTW I'm not saying I'm predicting all those wars will be over anytime soon, I'm saying IF that happens will people even be able to say anything good about him Please name one positive thing he did for the country during this first term - and no, riding on the previous admin's strong economy coattails and calling it his own doesn't count. In terms of the economy under Trump, I think the best thing he did with what he inherited was not screw it up, Pre COVID. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 12, 2024 19:35:32 GMT -8
Please name one positive thing he did for the country during this first term - and no, riding on the previous admin's strong economy coattails and calling it his own doesn't count. The whole economy thing is overblown anyways. Most presidents do little that impacts the economy compared to events outside their control, and citizens vote more on if the economy is 'good/bad', not if the president's policies were good/bad (ie. made the best/worst out of the situation). But it is why Kamala shouldn't have been the presidential nominee, given her ties to the Biden's administration's economy. Makes zero sense. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 12, 2024 19:36:46 GMT -8
We're in two different libraries here. I'm talking about naturalized citizens being denaturalized, not under existing law, but under a widespread campaign of hate. Three million less votes than 2020? Congrats. Seems wildly popular. The reality is you're not up to speed here and that's unfortunate, but stating that immigrants don't pay a cent in taxes is outright false. And why exactly do you believe that will happen? Consider too that Trump courted the Latino vote. Who cares? Widespread deportations of both legal and undocumented immigrants. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 12, 2024 19:37:19 GMT -8
Anyone thinking that legal immigrants are going to be deported are watching too much of The View. That's completely ridiculous and would be illegal. Come site this again when you see that happening If we're able to end the Ukraine war, Israel/Gaza conflict is over, inflation stays in good order, and the economy is running smoothly, are any of the blue no matter who folk in here going to utter anything good about this administration? You guys are so closed minded and in such groupthink that Trump could literally cure cancer and you'd find a way to vilify him for it. Do some actual objective, free thinking I'll have no problem criticizing him and the administration if he doesn't deliver on the things that matter BTW I'm not saying I'm predicting all those wars will be over anytime soon, I'm saying IF that happens will people even be able to say anything good about him What do you think denaturalization means? His mismanagement of the pandemic led to hundreds of thousands of deaths. He illegally retained national defense information and shared that information with hostile governments. He literally initiated a coup to try and halt the certification of votes in an election he admitted to losing. There's nothing good that needs to be said. The Supreme Court opened Pandora's box and we'll soon see what that entails. |
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Post by aztecbrothers on Nov 12, 2024 20:04:00 GMT -8
It's a shame that we can't have a conversation about the most important part of life without getting derailed. How you treat others - with kindness, compassion, empathy, and courtesy, or with anger, derision, and cruelty - is what defined you as a person. What kind of behavior you tolerate and excuse also defines you. Treating people badly for identity reasons is utterly unacceptable. Criticizing people for their actions is understandable and rational (to a point - violence is never acceptable). I've seen so much ugly behavior towards minorities, gays, transgender people, etc, based solely on who and what they are that I've become disgusted with a lot of people on the right. There is no excuse for that behavior. It is inhumane. I agree! Look at my orange man bar at 33% for speaking truth that did not fit a pre-defined agenda. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 12, 2024 20:05:36 GMT -8
It's a shame that we can't have a conversation about the most important part of life without getting derailed. How you treat others - with kindness, compassion, empathy, and courtesy, or with anger, derision, and cruelty - is what defined you as a person. What kind of behavior you tolerate and excuse also defines you. Treating people badly for identity reasons is utterly unacceptable. Criticizing people for their actions is understandable and rational (to a point - violence is never acceptable). I've seen so much ugly behavior towards minorities, gays, transgender people, etc, based solely on who and what they are that I've become disgusted with a lot of people on the right. There is no excuse for that behavior. It is inhumane. I agree! Look at my orange man bar at 33% for speaking truth that did not fit a pre-defined agenda. "Truth" is carrying a lot of water here....with holes in the canteen. |
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Post by aztecbrothers on Nov 12, 2024 20:57:08 GMT -8
I agree! Look at my orange man bar at 33% for speaking truth that did not fit a pre-defined agenda. "Truth" is carrying a lot of water here....with holes in the canteen. "You can't handle the truth" We all know you are an uniformed voter. |
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Nov 12, 2024 20:59:32 GMT -8
Anyone thinking that legal immigrants are going to be deported are watching too much of The View. That's completely ridiculous and would be illegal. Come site this again when you see that happening If we're able to end the Ukraine war, Israel/Gaza conflict is over, inflation stays in good order, and the economy is running smoothly, are any of the blue no matter who folk in here going to utter anything good about this administration? You guys are so closed minded and in such groupthink that Trump could literally cure cancer and you'd find a way to vilify him for it. Do some actual objective, free thinking I'll have no problem criticizing him and the administration if he doesn't deliver on the things that matter BTW I'm not saying I'm predicting all those wars will be over anytime soon, I'm saying IF that happens will people even be able to say anything good about him Please name one positive thing he did for the country during this first term - and no, riding on the previous admin's strong economy coattails and calling it his own doesn't count. Wow, if you really think there aren't a multitude of things I can list here then you really live in an echo chamber and need to balance your thinking. Not that it matters what I say here to you, but the labor force participation rate actually started to increase for the first time since the 90s, after drastically decreasing under Obama for his entire 2 terms Real wages also increased significantly for the first time since the 90's, after being stagnant or decreasing pretty much all of Obama's 8 years. Obviously inflation & unemployment were low, to the point where the Fed actually started to raise rates (much to Trump's disliking), because for the first time since the housing crisis we had the real growth and high employment to justify raising rates fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LES1252881600Qfred.stlouisfed.org/series/LES1252881600QZero new wars, etc. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 12, 2024 21:17:22 GMT -8
"Truth" is carrying a lot of water here....with holes in the canteen. "You can't handle the truth" We all know you are an uniformed voter. Riiiiight. Lol. |
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Post by johneaztec on Nov 12, 2024 21:20:31 GMT -8
It's a shame that we can't have a conversation about the most important part of life without getting derailed. How you treat others - with kindness, compassion, empathy, and courtesy, or with anger, derision, and cruelty - is what defined you as a person. What kind of behavior you tolerate and excuse also defines you. Treating people badly for identity reasons is utterly unacceptable. Criticizing people for their actions is understandable and rational (to a point - violence is never acceptable). I've seen so much ugly behavior towards minorities, gays, transgender people, etc, based solely on who and what they are that I've become disgusted with a lot of people on the right. There is no excuse for that behavior. It is inhumane. I agree! Look at my orange man bar at 33% for speaking truth that did not fit a pre-defined agenda. Interesting. I wonder if he's only handing out warning levels to posters who don't align with his views. or Trump voters. If that's the case, then he shouldn't be an Administrator if he can't keep himself in check, or stay out of the discussions if he can't control himself in that regard. |
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