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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 22, 2024 9:18:49 GMT -8
There is a lot of reporting and speculating out there, but which schools do you think will end up in the PAC-X? FYI- NTSA is a typo. Should be UTSA. Unfortunately, polls cannot be edited. (Stupid ProBoards...  ) |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 22, 2024 9:26:33 GMT -8
Recent reporting shows new interest in Utah State. I find that dubious, as I'm sure the other escaping MWC schools want nothing to do with Utah State at this point, but who knows?
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Post by jdaztec on Sept 22, 2024 9:31:13 GMT -8
I really hope its not Utah State, no more altitude adds
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 22, 2024 9:35:41 GMT -8
I'd like to see all four get in - Memphis, Tulane, Rice, and UTSA. Make it clear that this isn't a glorified MWC, and give each of them good travel partners.
But at least two of them have to be admitted to the conference.
To me, Memphis and Tulane should be locks.
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Post by myownwords on Sept 22, 2024 9:37:51 GMT -8
In as much as this entire new conference was kept secret until the day before announcement, I believe that there are plans and schools in the mix about which we know nothing.
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Post by sdsuball on Sept 22, 2024 9:54:52 GMT -8
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Post by 91aztec on Sept 22, 2024 9:59:10 GMT -8
Recent reporting shows new interest in Utah State. I find that dubious, as I'm sure the other escaping MWC schools want nothing to do with Utah State at this point, but who knows? Agreed, that is one of the few schools to absolutely try to keep out. Bus ride altitude schools shouldn’t even be given consideration or what was the point. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 22, 2024 10:18:56 GMT -8
Assuming that Cal and Stanford don't come back, I'd go to 10 now.
Tulane and Memphis should be the next announced schools. Then UNLV - if they can be separated from Nevada.
After that I'd probably go with UTSA. Give those schools each two good travel partners.
That would make for one solid conference.
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Post by sdsu1975 on Sept 22, 2024 10:19:07 GMT -8
Rice??? NO WAY. They suck in sports. I don't care if they are AAU.
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Post by sdsu1975 on Sept 22, 2024 10:31:42 GMT -8
Rice??? NO WAY. They suck in sports. I don't care if they are AAU.
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Post by sdsuball on Sept 22, 2024 10:39:55 GMT -8
Assuming that Cal and Stanford don't come back, I'd go to 10 now. Tulane and Memphis should be the next announced schools. Then UNLV - if they can be separated from Nevada. After that I'd probably go with UTSA. Give those schools each two good travel partners. That would make for one solid conference. I wouldn't touch any of the schools east of the Mississippi. Best is Stanford and Cal. If they don't come back right away, I would go to the minimum (8) with two of: Utah State, UNLV, Nevada, UNM More schools = diluted revenue pool - there is no incentive to go to 10 vs. 8. More travel east of the Mississippi = higher costs, less attractiveness to CAL and Stanford to come back, less attractiveness to a Gonzaga or St. Mary's as a basketball only add, less attractive from an Olympic sports perspective. Texas State is a decent option, so is UTSA, but both play second fiddle to the Longhorns (as well as the Texans) in the state of Texas. Plus, further travel isn't worth it. Shouldn't we have multiple "other" categories? After all we are picking two schools (and there are a lot of schools not in the poll). |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 22, 2024 10:49:40 GMT -8
Assuming that Cal and Stanford don't come back, I'd go to 10 now. Tulane and Memphis should be the next announced schools. Then UNLV - if they can be separated from Nevada. After that I'd probably go with UTSA. Give those schools each two good travel partners. That would make for one solid conference. I wouldn't touch any of the schools east of the Mississippi. Best is Stanford and Cal. If they don't come back right away, I would go to the minimum (8) with two of: Utah State, UNLV, Nevada, UNM More schools = diluted revenue pool - there is no incentive to go to 10 vs. 8. More travel east of the Mississippi = higher costs, less attractiveness to CAL and Stanford to come back, less attractiveness to a Gonzaga or St. Mary's as a basketball only add, less attractive from an Olympic sports perspective. Texas State is a decent option, so is UTSA, but both play second fiddle to the Longhorns (as well as the Texans) in the state of Texas. Plus, further travel isn't worth it. Shouldn't we have multiple "other" categories? After all we are picking two schools (and there are a lot of schools not in the poll). Utah State, Nevada, and New Mexico are jokes. They'd ruin the credibility of the conference. No. Thank. You. Memphis, Tulane, and UTSA are not exactly East Coast teams. They're close enough to make it work, and they'll give the conference credibility. That's the big thing - credibility. Without credibility they won't be able to get a decent TV contract. 10 schools is not too much. In the era of the Super Conferences it's a tiny conference, but still has room for CalFord IF the ACC implodes (not super likely, and the PAC cannot count on those two schools coming back, so they have to act as if they likely won't). |
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Post by Den60 on Sept 22, 2024 11:26:14 GMT -8
Assuming that Cal and Stanford don't come back, I'd go to 10 now. Tulane and Memphis should be the next announced schools. Then UNLV - if they can be separated from Nevada. After that I'd probably go with UTSA. Give those schools each two good travel partners. That would make for one solid conference. I wouldn't touch any of the schools east of the Mississippi. Best is Stanford and Cal. If they don't come back right away, I would go to the minimum (8) with two of: Utah State, UNLV, Nevada, UNM More schools = diluted revenue pool - there is no incentive to go to 10 vs. 8. More travel east of the Mississippi = higher costs, less attractiveness to CAL and Stanford to come back, less attractiveness to a Gonzaga or St. Mary's as a basketball only add, less attractive from an Olympic sports perspective. Texas State is a decent option, so is UTSA, but both play second fiddle to the Longhorns (as well as the Texans) in the state of Texas. Plus, further travel isn't worth it. Shouldn't we have multiple "other" categories? After all we are picking two schools (and there are a lot of schools not in the poll). I wouldn't put my faith in Calford coming back. If that was considered even semi-likely then the PAC wouldn't have added Fresno and Boise. Both Memphis and Tulane are in cities on the Mississippi. Travel to them is certainly not harder than what we've had to deal, and to a larger extent, with in the MWC. I also don't get the Texas St. love. The American is superior to the Sub Belt conference. While Memphis and Tulane our our top choices, if we need a third in Texas I see UTSA, UNT and Rice better targets than Texas St. |
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Post by Den60 on Sept 22, 2024 11:30:20 GMT -8
I wouldn't touch any of the schools east of the Mississippi. Best is Stanford and Cal. If they don't come back right away, I would go to the minimum (8) with two of: Utah State, UNLV, Nevada, UNM More schools = diluted revenue pool - there is no incentive to go to 10 vs. 8. More travel east of the Mississippi = higher costs, less attractiveness to CAL and Stanford to come back, less attractiveness to a Gonzaga or St. Mary's as a basketball only add, less attractive from an Olympic sports perspective. Texas State is a decent option, so is UTSA, but both play second fiddle to the Longhorns (as well as the Texans) in the state of Texas. Plus, further travel isn't worth it. Shouldn't we have multiple "other" categories? After all we are picking two schools (and there are a lot of schools not in the poll). Utah State, Nevada, and New Mexico are jokes. They'd ruin the credibility of the conference. No. Thank. You. Memphis, Tulane, and UTSA are not exactly East Coast teams. They're close enough to make it work, and they'll give the conference credibility. That's the big thing - credibility. Without credibility they won't be able to get a decent TV contract. 10 schools is not too much. In the era of the Super Conferences it's a tiny conference, but still has room for CalFord IF the ACC implodes (not super likely, and the PAC cannot count on those two schools coming back, so they have to act as if they likely won't). Credibility is also why I add Gonzaga. One thing, Memphis fans, like SDSU fans, place a high value on their MBB's program. Adding Gonzaga gives us increased visibility doing BB season. I want that. They also bring baseball and men's soccer with them. |
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Post by sdsuball on Sept 22, 2024 11:38:55 GMT -8
I wouldn't touch any of the schools east of the Mississippi. Best is Stanford and Cal. If they don't come back right away, I would go to the minimum (8) with two of: Utah State, UNLV, Nevada, UNM More schools = diluted revenue pool - there is no incentive to go to 10 vs. 8. More travel east of the Mississippi = higher costs, less attractiveness to CAL and Stanford to come back, less attractiveness to a Gonzaga or St. Mary's as a basketball only add, less attractive from an Olympic sports perspective. Texas State is a decent option, so is UTSA, but both play second fiddle to the Longhorns (as well as the Texans) in the state of Texas. Plus, further travel isn't worth it. Shouldn't we have multiple "other" categories? After all we are picking two schools (and there are a lot of schools not in the poll).
They have to get to 8 somehow, Fresno and Boise are necessary. The ACC is going to implode, CAL is going to implode financially due to their stadium deal and the expense of traveling to the East Coast for a million sports. Both schools are going to get weaker recruiting in Olympic sports as a result of being in the ACC. They will both come back to the PAC. Both Memphis and Tulane are in cities on the Mississippi. Travel to them is certainly not harder than what we've had to deal, and to a larger extent, with in the MWC.
True, but why are we trying to get back to that type of travel? On some level, I think that most people are seeing what has happened in other conferences that have obtained a wider geographical footprint, and are saying 'okay, the PAC is going to follow suit by picking up the two best G6 schools, Memphis and Tulane.' I don't see that model as sustainable for the weaker conferences. It can work for the BIG10 and the SEC, because they are bringing in a ton of revenue, but I don't see it working for the PAC at 10-15M per school. The ACC is going to implode from these lawsuits, and CAL will take advantage of the opportunity to go back to the PAC, and Stanford will follow. Then the media deal will get renegotiated to 20-25M, and they will be much happier. I also don't get the Texas St. love. The American is superior to the Sub Belt conference. While Memphis and Tulane our our top choices, if we need a third in Texas I see UTSA, UNT and Rice better targets than Texas St.Good alumni base, good football school, stadium was renovated a decade or so ago, I see them as equals to those other Texas schools that you just mentioned. FWIW, to anyone that lives in Texas, all four of those schools play second fiddle to UT (and Texas A&M for that matter). |
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Post by Gundo on Sept 22, 2024 12:40:18 GMT -8
NTSA - Why did you blend North Texas State, with the University of Texas San Antonio?
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Post by zurac315 on Sept 22, 2024 13:01:15 GMT -8
Recent reporting shows new interest in Utah State. I find that dubious, as I'm sure the other escaping MWC schools want nothing to do with Utah State at this point, but who knows? I want no "mountain" schools from the MWC. Period. Sick of 'em. |
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Post by gentlesaztec on Sept 22, 2024 13:08:18 GMT -8
This year Texas State handed UTSA a good butt whipping and the Arizona game was neck and neck the whole game. Heck. last year they beat Baylor.
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Post by zurac315 on Sept 22, 2024 13:08:33 GMT -8
In as much as this entire new conference was kept secret until the day before announcement, I believe that there are plans and schools in the mix about which we know nothing. I suspect the schools to be added have already been decided on. I also suspect that the PAC was reasonably sure about them before they added "the first four." Probably just going through the final phases now. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 22, 2024 13:18:32 GMT -8
NTSA - Why did you blend North Texas State, with the University of Texas San Antonio? Typo, more or less, then a brain fade. |
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