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Post by myownwords on Sept 22, 2024 17:07:40 GMT -8
George Kliavkoff had a clear path to saving the PAC despite the departures of UCLA, USC, Oregon, Washington, and Colorado. By aggressively adding SMU, San Diego State, Boise State, Fresno State, and Colorado State, he could have stabilized the conference, potentially retaining Utah and the Arizona schools. With this expanded roster, Kliavkoff could have renegotiated with ESPN, securing a media rights deal in the range of $30 million per school, ensuring the conference’s future and competitiveness. Kick-ass Kliavkoff was a rube, who didn't know how much he didn't know. |
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Post by Gundo on Sept 22, 2024 17:57:46 GMT -8
George Kliavkoff had a clear path to saving the PAC despite the departures of UCLA, USC, Oregon, Washington, and Colorado. By aggressively adding SMU, San Diego State, Boise State, Fresno State, and Colorado State, he could have stabilized the conference, potentially retaining Utah and the Arizona schools. With this expanded roster, Kliavkoff could have renegotiated with ESPN, securing a media rights deal in the range of $30 million per school, ensuring the conference’s future and competitiveness. Kick-ass Kliavkoff was a rube, who didn't know how much he didn't know. I agree Kliiavkoff wasn't much of a visionary or a negotiator, or even a decent mediator but the CEO Committee was so out-of-touch, and focused on getting out of the League, they could have tried to back-fill the holes and get a fairer/Another deal at the time. Well 20/20 hindsight but its obvious that can see things more clearly after they have happened. There was obviously no plan "B" once ESPN walked and the PAC shut down the Apple proposal. And yet, I don't think any school got full shares from the Big X, Big XII and ACC. But check me if I am wrong. |
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Post by myownwords on Sept 22, 2024 18:12:25 GMT -8
Kick-ass Kliavkoff was a rube, who didn't know how much he didn't know. I agree Kliiavkoff wasn't much of a visionary or a negotiator, or even a decent mediator but the CEO Committee was so out-of-touch, and focused on getting out of the League, they could have tried to back-fill the holes and get a fairer/Another deal at the time. Well 20/20 hindsight but its obvious that can see things more clearly after they have happened. There was obviously no plan "B" once ESPN walked and the PAC shut down the Apple proposal. And yet, I don't think any school got full shares from the Big X, Big XII and ACC. But check me if I am wrong. All true. They deserved each other. |
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Post by Den60 on Sept 22, 2024 18:54:23 GMT -8
Kick-ass Kliavkoff was a rube, who didn't know how much he didn't know. I agree Kliiavkoff wasn't much of a visionary or a negotiator, or even a decent mediator but the CEO Committee was so out-of-touch, and focused on getting out of the League, they could have tried to back-fill the holes and get a fairer/Another deal at the time. Well 20/20 hindsight but its obvious that can see things more clearly after they have happened. There was obviously no plan "B" once ESPN walked and the PAC shut down the Apple proposal. And yet, I don't think any school got full shares from the Big X, Big XII and ACC. But check me if I am wrong. The 4 corner schools got a full share in the B12 and Colorado got an additional $3.5M bonus being the first to join. |
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Post by Gundo on Sept 22, 2024 20:02:35 GMT -8
I agree Kliiavkoff wasn't much of a visionary or a negotiator, or even a decent mediator but the CEO Committee was so out-of-touch, and focused on getting out of the League, they could have tried to back-fill the holes and get a fairer/Another deal at the time. Well 20/20 hindsight but its obvious that can see things more clearly after they have happened. There was obviously no plan "B" once ESPN walked and the PAC shut down the Apple proposal. And yet, I don't think any school got full shares from the Big X, Big XII and ACC. But check me if I am wrong. The 4 corner schools got a full share in the B12 and Colorado got an additional $3.5M bonus being the first to join. And Oregon's and Washington's annual cut of the Big X's revenue distribution was said to start at $30M and grow by $1M each year through the length of the current deal. They will receive full shares upon the next TV deal, in 2030-31. And desperate for a home after the collapse of the Pac-12, Stanford and CAL lacked negotiating leverage, and will receive 30% percent shares (or $11MM to $12MM) of the ACC’s annual media revenue from its broadcast contract with ESPN. |
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Post by aztech on Sept 23, 2024 1:08:05 GMT -8
The 4 corner schools got a full share in the B12 and Colorado got an additional $3.5M bonus being the first to join. And Oregon's and Washington's annual cut of the Big X's revenue distribution was said to start at $30M and grow by $1M each year through the length of the current deal. They will receive full shares upon the next TV deal, in 2030-31. And desperate for a home after the collapse of the Pac-12, Stanford and CAL lacked negotiating leverage, and will receive 30% percent shares (or $11MM to $12MM) of the ACC’s annual media revenue from its broadcast contract with ESPN. Do those conferences split their bowl money and basketball credits evenly to their members, like we had to? That could ease those ex-Pac schools who are receiving lesser media deals. |
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Post by Boise Aztec on Sept 23, 2024 7:22:44 GMT -8
Maybe, but Cal is getting $10 mil from UCLA every year. That $10M doesn't even cover travel mitigation. And, those payments have only been approved for three years IIRC. And while it had been reported as $10m, there is actually a range of $2m to $10m |
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Post by McQuervo on Sept 23, 2024 8:02:33 GMT -8
That $10M doesn't even cover travel mitigation. And, those payments have only been approved for three years IIRC. And while it had been reported as $10m, there is actually a range of $2m to $10m Hate to admit it as I love college FB, these two deserve this "Opportunity!" |
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Post by Den60 on Sept 23, 2024 8:08:32 GMT -8
The 4 corner schools got a full share in the B12 and Colorado got an additional $3.5M bonus being the first to join. And Oregon's and Washington's annual cut of the Big X's revenue distribution was said to start at $30M and grow by $1M each year through the length of the current deal. They will receive full shares upon the next TV deal, in 2030-31. And desperate for a home after the collapse of the Pac-12, Stanford and CAL lacked negotiating leverage, and will receive 30% percent shares (or $11MM to $12MM) of the ACC’s annual media revenue from its broadcast contract with ESPN. Yes, the other schools signed out of desperation. I think that the B1G and SEC breakaway from the rest of the schools in football by 2030 which will result in 30-40 schools in the P1 league. I think Washington and Oregon make the cut but they will look back at all the move to the B1G as a mistake. They could have made the same money in the PAC, if not better, while having an easier road to the CFB. Also, the PAC was going to an unequal shared postseason money distribution model. |
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Post by aztecdan8 on Sept 24, 2024 9:22:49 GMT -8
And Oregon's and Washington's annual cut of the Big X's revenue distribution was said to start at $30M and grow by $1M each year through the length of the current deal. They will receive full shares upon the next TV deal, in 2030-31. And desperate for a home after the collapse of the Pac-12, Stanford and CAL lacked negotiating leverage, and will receive 30% percent shares (or $11MM to $12MM) of the ACC’s annual media revenue from its broadcast contract with ESPN. Yes, the other schools signed out of desperation. I think that the B1G and SEC breakaway from the rest of the schools in football by 2030 which will result in 30-40 schools in the P1 league. I think Washington and Oregon make the cut but they will look back at all the move to the B1G as a mistake. They could have made the same money in the PAC, if not better, while having an easier road to the CFB. Also, the PAC was going to an unequal shared postseason money distribution model. Thing is, I think the P12 would've gotten larger offers/deals after last season, as it was the most exciting, compelling season in years, with multiple Heisman candidates, sensational QB play, incredibly exciting games, more quality depth of teams ... it would've felt like the conference was "back" and would've advanced their standing in the hierarchy of conferences and programs. One more year could've changed everything. They'd have the remaining 10, plus us and maybe one more. That was the "grand slam" scenario for us but also for each and every program IMO. |
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Post by Den60 on Sept 24, 2024 12:06:05 GMT -8
Yes, the other schools signed out of desperation. I think that the B1G and SEC breakaway from the rest of the schools in football by 2030 which will result in 30-40 schools in the P1 league. I think Washington and Oregon make the cut but they will look back at all the move to the B1G as a mistake. They could have made the same money in the PAC, if not better, while having an easier road to the CFB. Also, the PAC was going to an unequal shared postseason money distribution model. Thing is, I think the P12 would've gotten larger offers/deals after last season, as it was the most exciting, compelling season in years, with multiple Heisman candidates, sensational QB play, incredibly exciting games, more quality depth of teams ... it would've felt like the conference was "back" and would've advanced their standing in the hierarchy of conferences and programs. One more year could've changed everything. They'd have the remaining 10, plus us and maybe one more. That was the "grand slam" scenario for us but also for each and every program IMO. They made the deal before the FB season IIRC. |
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