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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 5, 2024 20:17:24 GMT -8
www.cnn.com/2024/09/04/politics/liz-cheney-voting-kamala-harris/index.htmlLiz Cheney is FAR more conservative than Donald Trump. She is a legit Republican - one with ethics and integrity, unlike Trump. Thus, he had his minions drive her out of Washington D.C. on a rail for being honest. Can't have those pesky Republicans with ethics and integrity in the party, can we? Well, like fellow Republican Trump Victim Adam Kinzinger, she recognizes that Trump poses a threat to American Democracy itself, and Democracy is far more important that policy differences. They know it, and I know it (that's why I'm not a Republican anymore after 35 years of solidly voting Republican). Only the cult members who have been drinking the Kool-Aid are voting for Trump. eta: Dick Cheney now endorsing Kamala Harris. www.cnn.com/2024/09/06/politics/dick-cheney-kamala-harris-president/index.html
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 5, 2024 20:26:07 GMT -8
www.cnn.com/2024/09/04/politics/liz-cheney-voting-kamala-harris/index.htmlLiz Cheney is FAR more conservative than Donald Trump. She is a legit Republican - one with ethics and integrity, unlike Trump. Thus, he had his minions drive her out of Washington D.C. on a rail for being honest. Can't have those pesky Republicans with ethics and integrity in the party, can we? Well, like fellow Republican Trump Victim Adam Kinzinger, she recognizes that Trump poses a threat to American Democracy itself, and Democracy is far more important that policy differences. They know it, and I know it (that's why I'm not a Republican anymore after 35 years of solidly voting Republican). Only the cult members who have been drinking the Kool-Aid are voting for Trump. This is no shock. |
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 5, 2024 20:34:04 GMT -8
www.cnn.com/2024/09/04/politics/liz-cheney-voting-kamala-harris/index.htmlLiz Cheney is FAR more conservative than Donald Trump. She is a legit Republican - one with ethics and integrity, unlike Trump. Thus, he had his minions drive her out of Washington D.C. on a rail for being honest. Can't have those pesky Republicans with ethics and integrity in the party, can we? Well, like fellow Republican Trump Victim Adam Kinzinger, she recognizes that Trump poses a threat to American Democracy itself, and Democracy is far more important that policy differences. They know it, and I know it (that's why I'm not a Republican anymore after 35 years of solidly voting Republican). Only the cult members who have been drinking the Kool-Aid are voting for Trump. This is no shock. Nothing shocks you. While this isn't a surprise, it indicates an actual Republican rebuking Trumpism, which is important. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 5, 2024 20:36:51 GMT -8
www.cnn.com/2024/09/04/politics/liz-cheney-voting-kamala-harris/index.htmlLiz Cheney is FAR more conservative than Donald Trump. She is a legit Republican - one with ethics and integrity, unlike Trump. Thus, he had his minions drive her out of Washington D.C. on a rail for being honest. Can't have those pesky Republicans with ethics and integrity in the party, can we? Well, like fellow Republican Trump Victim Adam Kinzinger, she recognizes that Trump poses a threat to American Democracy itself, and Democracy is far more important that policy differences. They know it, and I know it (that's why I'm not a Republican anymore after 35 years of solidly voting Republican). Only the cult members who have been drinking the Kool-Aid are voting for Trump. This is no shock. But it should say a lot. She is one of the most legit conservatives in the Republican Party. She is nowhere near middle of the road. She's VERY conservative. And VERY Republican. So for her to endorse Kamala Harris, despite their policy differences, that should tell you just how bad Donald Trump is. |
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Post by aardvark on Sept 5, 2024 20:37:21 GMT -8
www.cnn.com/2024/09/04/politics/liz-cheney-voting-kamala-harris/index.htmlLiz Cheney is FAR more conservative than Donald Trump. She is a legit Republican - one with ethics and integrity, unlike Trump. Thus, he had his minions drive her out of Washington D.C. on a rail for being honest. Can't have those pesky Republicans with ethics and integrity in the party, can we? Well, like fellow Republican Trump Victim Adam Kinzinger, she recognizes that Trump poses a threat to American Democracy itself, and Democracy is far more important that policy differences. They know it, and I know it (that's why I'm not a Republican anymore after 35 years of solidly voting Republican). Only the cult members who have been drinking the Kool-Aid are voting for Trump.  |
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 5, 2024 20:49:44 GMT -8
But it should say a lot. She is one of the most legit conservatives in the Republican Party. She is nowhere near middle of the road. She's VERY conservative. And VERY Republican. So for her to endorse Kamala Harris, despite their policy differences, that should tell you just how bad Donald Trump is. You're just not going to surprise anyone on this board, which is basically the issue with Trump right now - Nobody is surprised at the behavior. It's been normalized, accepted and condoned. Harris and Trump have similar favorability ratings, which tells you all you really need to know. There are a plethora of reasons not to vote for the Trump and Vance ticket...but you're really not going to surprise anyone by saying that. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 5, 2024 20:55:26 GMT -8
But it should say a lot. She is one of the most legit conservatives in the Republican Party. She is nowhere near middle of the road. She's VERY conservative. And VERY Republican. So for her to endorse Kamala Harris, despite their policy differences, that should tell you just how bad Donald Trump is. You're just not going to surprise anyone on this board, which is basically the issue with Trump right now - Nobody is surprised at the behavior. It's been normalized, accepted and condoned. Harris and Trump have similar favorability ratings, which tells you all you really need to know. There are a plethora of reasons not to vote for the Trump and Vance ticket...but you're really not going to surprise anyone by saying that. No, but the fact that someone with Liz Cheney's background and conservative voting record is opposing Trump and supporting Harris SHOULD be a wake-up call for every Republican even considering voting for Trump. She is one of the most legitimate Republicans of the last quarter century. Her voting record is one of the most conservative in her time in Congress. She is the real deal, unlike Trump. The fact that so many Republicans call her a RINO because Trump did shows just how utterly ignorant they are. She's more conservative and more Republican than YOU, Republicans. So if she's opposing Trump maybe, just maybe, there's a legit reason why you should, too. She didn't give a $#!+ if she got run out of D.C. - she was going to tell the truth, present the facts, and if Republican voters didn't like that, too damned bad. THAT is the kind of person you want, Republicans. Someone with ethics. Someone with intgegrity. Someone with GUTS!!!! Trump has none of that. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 5, 2024 21:11:13 GMT -8
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 5, 2024 21:16:06 GMT -8
Nothing shocks you. While this isn't a surprise, it indicates an actual Republican rebuking Trumpism, which is important. It's not a shock due to the fact it's widely known that she's no Trump fan. She's rebuked Trumpism for quite awhile now. That's all I'm saying. |
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 5, 2024 21:18:16 GMT -8
But it should say a lot. She is one of the most legit conservatives in the Republican Party. She is nowhere near middle of the road. She's VERY conservative. And VERY Republican. So for her to endorse Kamala Harris, despite their policy differences, that should tell you just how bad Donald Trump is. Again, it's no shock coming from HER. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 5, 2024 21:19:18 GMT -8
Nothing shocks you. While this isn't a surprise, it indicates an actual Republican rebuking Trumpism, which is important. It's not a shock due to the fact it's widely known that she's no Trump fan. She's rebuked Trumpism for quite awhile now. That's all I'm saying. And why has she rebuked Trump and Trumpism? Because she has ethics and ingegrity. She's a die hard Republican, but she's an American first. She is literally one of the most conservative Republicans in congress in the last quarter century. She's the real deal - and she opposes Trump and supports Harris. That should be important to every Republican. Should be. |
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 5, 2024 21:22:18 GMT -8
It's not a shock due to the fact it's widely known that she's no Trump fan. She's rebuked Trumpism for quite awhile now. That's all I'm saying. And why has she rebuked Trump and Trumpism? Because she has ethics and ingegrity. She's a die hard Republican, but she's an American first. She is literally one of the most conservative Republicans in congress in the last quarter century. She's the real deal - and she opposes Trump and supports Harris. That should be important to every Republican. Should be. Sure, you can say it's important if she's held in high regard, but surprising, shocking, or not expected? Of course not. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 5, 2024 21:26:56 GMT -8
And why has she rebuked Trump and Trumpism? Because she has ethics and ingegrity. She's a die hard Republican, but she's an American first. She is literally one of the most conservative Republicans in congress in the last quarter century. She's the real deal - and she opposes Trump and supports Harris. That should be important to every Republican. Should be. Sure, you can say it's important if she's held in high regard, but surprising, shocking, or not expected? Of course not. My point is if the Republican Party were worth a damn they'd value a CONSERVATIVE House member with that kind of integrity and ethics. They'd hold her in VERY high regard. The fact that Trump lied about her and got people to believe the lies, and that Republicans call her a RINO shows just how screwed up that party is. And anyone who claims to have ethics and integrity SHOULD respect and admire her - and take her positions like this very seriously. |
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 5, 2024 21:29:37 GMT -8
Sure, you can say it's important if she's held in high regard, but surprising, shocking, or not expected? Of course not. My point is if the Republican Party were worth a damn they'd value a CONSERVATIVE House member with that kind of integrity and ethics. They'd hold her in VERY high regard. The fact that Trump lied about her and got people to believe the lies, and that Republicans call her a RINO shows just how screwed up that party is. And anyone who claims to have ethics and integrity SHOULD respect and admire her - and take her positions like this very seriously. The Republican Party is dead. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 5, 2024 21:37:05 GMT -8
My point is if the Republican Party were worth a damn they'd value a CONSERVATIVE House member with that kind of integrity and ethics. They'd hold her in VERY high regard. The fact that Trump lied about her and got people to believe the lies, and that Republicans call her a RINO shows just how screwed up that party is. And anyone who claims to have ethics and integrity SHOULD respect and admire her - and take her positions like this very seriously. The Republican Party is dead. The Party of Reagan, and William F. Buckley Jr, and George H.W. Bush, and Dwight Eisenhower is certainly dead. |
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 5, 2024 21:39:32 GMT -8
The Republican Party is dead. The Party of Reagan, and William F. Buckley Jr, and George H.W. Bush, and Dwight Eisenhower is certainly dead. I'm certainly not a Reagan fan in the slightest, but this party benefits nobody. You can see that in Congress where nothing gets done, no meaningful legislation gets passed and there's nothing but in-fighting and appeasement to their leadership. |
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 5, 2024 22:53:01 GMT -8
Sure, you can say it's important if she's held in high regard, but surprising, shocking, or not expected? Of course not. My point is if the Republican Party were worth a damn they'd value a CONSERVATIVE House member with that kind of integrity and ethics. They'd hold her in VERY high regard. The fact that Trump lied about her and got people to believe the lies, and that Republicans call her a RINO shows just how screwed up that party is. And anyone who claims to have ethics and integrity SHOULD respect and admire her - and take her positions like this very seriously. Sure, but if they want to be reelected, or keep certain jobs and advance in the party, they'll go along with just about anything the leading candidate says, and does. Cheney didn't, so good for her, but it's no surprise that others are backing him for the reasons I listed. They're politicians. Enough said. |
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 5, 2024 23:51:29 GMT -8
My point is if the Republican Party were worth a damn they'd value a CONSERVATIVE House member with that kind of integrity and ethics. They'd hold her in VERY high regard. The fact that Trump lied about her and got people to believe the lies, and that Republicans call her a RINO shows just how screwed up that party is. And anyone who claims to have ethics and integrity SHOULD respect and admire her - and take her positions like this very seriously. Sure, but if they want to be reelected, or keep certain jobs and advance in the party, they'll go along with just about anything the leading candidate says, and does. Cheney didn't, so good for her, but it's no surprise that others are backing him for the reasons I listed. They're politicians. Enough said. She literally gave up her career. |
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Post by uwphoto on Sept 6, 2024 4:28:56 GMT -8
Sure, you can say it's important if she's held in high regard, but surprising, shocking, or not expected? Of course not. My point is if the Republican Party were worth a damn they'd value a CONSERVATIVE House member with that kind of integrity and ethics. They'd hold her in VERY high regard. The fact that Trump lied about her and got people to believe the lies, and that Republicans call her a RINO shows just how screwed up that party is. And anyone who claims to have ethics and integrity SHOULD respect and admire her - and take her positions like this very seriously. Erik, this doesn't matter. It's only about power and money in the Republican party. Ethics, truth, integrity..it just doesn't matter anymore. The maga base is manipulated and owned. For Fox, trump et al..it's a cash / power cow to be milked till it's dry. My maga sister visited last weekend. I love her, but wow! I tried to engage in a calm discussion, but she only has information from far right, and conspiracy, sources. She had never even heard of a lot of the major issues / headlines involving trump. She kept saying to me "I'm not voting for Harris!" My response was ...I'm not telling you to vote for Harris, but at least understand what you are voting for! I gave up when I felt I was bullying her. She has had a much harder life than me and I felt it wasn't worth it. She is a good example of the maga base, though....not well informed, and easily manipulated. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 6, 2024 7:16:24 GMT -8
My point is if the Republican Party were worth a damn they'd value a CONSERVATIVE House member with that kind of integrity and ethics. They'd hold her in VERY high regard. The fact that Trump lied about her and got people to believe the lies, and that Republicans call her a RINO shows just how screwed up that party is. And anyone who claims to have ethics and integrity SHOULD respect and admire her - and take her positions like this very seriously. Sure, but if they want to be reelected, or keep certain jobs and advance in the party, they'll go along with just about anything the leading candidate says, and does. Cheney didn't, so good for her, but it's no surprise that others are backing him for the reasons I listed. They're politicians. Enough said. Right, and Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger both put Country before Party and willingly gave up power to do the right thing. Do you or do you not respect and admire that? And does it not sway you at all when people who are deeply Conservative and VERY Republican support Kamala Harris? They're not endorsing her for any gain - they'll get nothing out of it. They're supporting Harris because it's the right thing to do in THIS election. Does that not mean anything to you? It should mean a lot to most Republicans and conservative leaning independents. |
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