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Post by johneaztec on Sept 6, 2024 8:19:21 GMT -8
Sure, but if they want to be reelected, or keep certain jobs and advance in the party, they'll go along with just about anything the leading candidate says, and does. Cheney didn't, so good for her, but it's no surprise that others are backing him for the reasons I listed. They're politicians. Enough said. Right, and Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger both put Country before Party and willingly gave up power to do the right thing. Do you or do you not respect and admire that? And does it not sway you at all when people who are deeply Conservative and VERY Republican support Kamala Harris? They're not endorsing her for any gain - they'll get nothing out of it. They're supporting Harris because it's the right thing to do in THIS election. Does that not mean anything to you? It should mean a lot to most Republicans and conservative leaning independents. You're talking to a guy who is not voting for Trump. Yes, at face value, I think that says a lot about her character, but to be honest, I don't know a lot about her.
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Post by azson on Sept 6, 2024 9:31:15 GMT -8
www.cnn.com/2024/09/04/politics/liz-cheney-voting-kamala-harris/index.htmlLiz Cheney is FAR more conservative than Donald Trump. She is a legit Republican - one with ethics and integrity, unlike Trump. Thus, he had his minions drive her out of Washington D.C. on a rail for being honest. Can't have those pesky Republicans with ethics and integrity in the party, can we? Well, like fellow Republican Trump Victim Adam Kinzinger, she recognizes that Trump poses a threat to American Democracy itself, and Democracy is far more important that policy differences. They know it, and I know it (that's why I'm not a Republican anymore after 35 years of solidly voting Republican). Only the cult members who have been drinking the Kool-Aid are voting for Trump. The truth is funny?
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Post by aardvark on Sept 6, 2024 9:41:22 GMT -8
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 6, 2024 10:05:19 GMT -8
Cheney is a great Republican. One with more ethics, integrity, and Guts than almost anyone else with an R next to their name in 2024. And you say she's irrelevant. She's very relevant - she shows how pathetic the Republican Party has become (in driving her out for being honest and showing integrity).
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Post by aardvark on Sept 6, 2024 10:12:43 GMT -8
Cheney is a great Republican. One with more ethics, integrity, and Guts than almost anyone else with an R next to their name in 2024. And you say she's irrelevant. She's very relevant - she shows how pathetic the Republican Party has become (in driving her out for being honest and showing integrity).
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Post by azson on Sept 6, 2024 10:26:23 GMT -8
Cheney is a great Republican. One with more ethics, integrity, and Guts than almost anyone else with an R next to their name in 2024. And you say she's irrelevant. She's very relevant - she shows how pathetic the Republican Party has become (in driving her out for being honest and showing integrity). Gotta say, your posting history on the poli-board is pretty weak-sauce and trolly. You rarely post and when you do it's nothing but a ROTFL emoji, offering little to no substance to serious topics. Due to that, one can't help but assume it's because you're ashamed of affiliation to what the right has become.
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Post by aardvark on Sept 6, 2024 11:03:10 GMT -8
Gotta say, your posting history on the poli-board is pretty weak-sauce and trolly. You rarely post and when you do it's nothing but a ROTFL emoji, offering little to no substance to serious topics. Due to that, one can't help but assume it's because you're ashamed of affiliation to what the right has become. I read this all the time, but choose to not post very often. I've done that for years. Things strike me as humorous at times (on this part of Aztec Mesa), and I respond as such. To be more precise, I am ashamed of what both major parties have become. Every 2 and/or 4 years, it has become increasingly hard to vote for anyone in either party--it has almost become voting for the lesser of 2 evils every single time. But feel free to assume what you wish about me.
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 6, 2024 11:04:39 GMT -8
Cheney is a great Republican. One with more ethics, integrity, and Guts than almost anyone else with an R next to their name in 2024. And you say she's irrelevant. She's very relevant - she shows how pathetic the Republican Party has become (in driving her out for being honest and showing integrity). Saying Cheney is irrelevant, I think, means that she's not going to sway any/many votes. Her stance is commendable, but irrelevant in terms of affecting the election.
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Post by aztecnails on Sept 6, 2024 11:22:40 GMT -8
It is not a winning strategy to make positive comments about a candidate cheney who lost by the biggest margin of an incumbent ever in the 2022 election. I spoke with Barrel Man from Wyoming at a previous MWC Basketball tournament and he stated how despised cheney is by her actions. This harris endorsement proves cheney should have never been on the Jan. 6 committee. Republicans pick their committee members and not democrats. The correct term for cheney is a rino.
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Post by azson on Sept 6, 2024 11:32:56 GMT -8
Gotta say, your posting history on the poli-board is pretty weak-sauce and trolly. You rarely post and when you do it's nothing but a ROTFL emoji, offering little to no substance to serious topics. Due to that, one can't help but assume it's because you're ashamed of affiliation to what the right has become. I read this all the time, but choose to not post very often. I've done that for years. Things strike me as humorous at times (on this part of Aztec Mesa), and I respond as such. To be more precise, I am ashamed of what both major parties have become. Every 2 and/or 4 years, it has become increasingly hard to vote for anyone in either party--it has almost become voting for the lesser of 2 evils every single time. But feel free to assume what you wish about me. I don't believe I've ever seen you emoji a right-leaning post, hence my suspicions. I feel you on the broken 2-party system though. If Trump weren't such a clear and present danger I'd be voting 3rd party as I have every non-Trump election year since 1996.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 6, 2024 11:38:30 GMT -8
It is not a winning strategy to make positive comments about a candidate cheney who lost by the biggest margin of an incumbent ever in the 2022 election. I spoke with Barrel Man from Wyoming at a previous MWC Basketball tournament and he stated how despised cheney is by her actions. This harris endorsement proves cheney should have never been on the Jan. 6 committee. Republicans pick their committee members and not democrats. The correct term for cheney is a rino. SHe's more conservative than most Republicans. FACT. Her voting record proves that. So how is she a RINO? Because she won't lie and mislead for Trump? Would you have wanted Republicans to lie and mislead for Nixon? Trump is far worse than Nixon was.
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Post by uwphoto on Sept 6, 2024 12:01:43 GMT -8
It is not a winning strategy to make positive comments about a candidate cheney who lost by the biggest margin of an incumbent ever in the 2022 election. I spoke with Barrel Man from Wyoming at a previous MWC Basketball tournament and he stated how despised cheney is by her actions. This harris endorsement proves cheney should have never been on the Jan. 6 committee. Republicans pick their committee members and not democrats. The correct term for cheney is a rino. Cheney isn't in a cult... like: Kinzinger, Murkowski, Kelley, Mattis, Mouch, Mike Pence, Barr, Esper, Milley, Tillerson, McMaster, Bolton, Grisham, Chao, Cohen, Cobb, and 100+ more aren't. Is "rino" all you got? Deprogramming is coming soon...I hope..for the sake of the USA.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 6, 2024 12:10:11 GMT -8
It is not a winning strategy to make positive comments about a candidate cheney who lost by the biggest margin of an incumbent ever in the 2022 election. I spoke with Barrel Man from Wyoming at a previous MWC Basketball tournament and he stated how despised cheney is by her actions. This harris endorsement proves cheney should have never been on the Jan. 6 committee. Republicans pick their committee members and not democrats. The correct term for cheney is a rino. Cheney isn't in a cult... like: Kinzinger, Murkowski, Kelley, Mattis, Mouch, Mike Pence, Barr, Esper, Milley, Tillerson, McMaster, Bolton, Grisham, Chao, Cohen, Cobb, and 100+ more aren't. Is "rino" all you got? Deprogramming is coming soon...I hope..for the sake of the USA. Great point. The ONLY people who honestly believe that a die hard conservative Republican like Liz Cheney is a RINO are people who are literally CULT members. Any use of critical thinking or just common sense will tell you that she's a 110% legit Republican. She just has ethics, integrity, and guts. She stands up and does what's right, regardless of consequences. How in the world would that make her a RINO? It wouldn't. Only an idiot or a cult member would think it does.
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Post by azdick on Sept 6, 2024 12:24:33 GMT -8
Cheney is a great Republican. One with more ethics, integrity, and Guts than almost anyone else with an R next to their name in 2024. And you say she's irrelevant. She's very relevant - she shows how pathetic the Republican Party has become (in driving her out for being honest and showing integrity). Saying Cheney is irrelevant, I think, means that she's not going to sway any/many votes. Her stance is commendable, but irrelevant in terms of affecting the election. What if her endorsement sways enough swing state voters to change the outcome in a crucial state that tips the election in Harris’ favor. Would you still call her irrelevant?
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 6, 2024 12:31:01 GMT -8
Saying Cheney is irrelevant, I think, means that she's not going to sway any/many votes. Her stance is commendable, but irrelevant in terms of affecting the election. What if her endorsement sways enough swing state voters to change the outcome in a crucial state that tips the election in Harris’ favor. Would you still call her irrelevant? Oh, man, that would be incredibly relevant, but I doubt that could come close to happening. Do you believe that could come true?
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Post by aardvark on Sept 6, 2024 12:41:52 GMT -8
Saying Cheney is irrelevant, I think, means that she's not going to sway any/many votes. Her stance is commendable, but irrelevant in terms of affecting the election. What if her endorsement sways enough swing state voters to change the outcome in a crucial state that tips the election in Harris’ favor. Would you still call her irrelevant? She will sway no one. She never had any interest in voting for Trump, and she has never hidden that fact for years.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 6, 2024 12:45:57 GMT -8
Dick Cheney is also voting for Harris.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 6, 2024 12:53:34 GMT -8
What if her endorsement sways enough swing state voters to change the outcome in a crucial state that tips the election in Harris’ favor. Would you still call her irrelevant? She will sway no one. She never had any interest in voting for Trump, and she has never hidden that fact for years. Why do you think that is?
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Post by aardvark on Sept 6, 2024 12:56:49 GMT -8
She will sway no one. She never had any interest in voting for Trump, and she has never hidden that fact for years. Why do you think that is? You'd have to ask her.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 6, 2024 12:59:06 GMT -8
Why do you think that is? You'd have to ask her. But I'm asking you.
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