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Post by sdsustoner on Aug 20, 2024 15:34:57 GMT -8
So you are thinking the new staff may make the old staff's mistakes even though they are two completely different staffs? I'm excited to see what the kid can do. Wow Stoner I'm glad you were never my boss. If you would put me behind the 8 ball without me even starting the job you would have been a terrible boss. Now if you don't see improvement over past performance from the previous staff after 4 or 5 games then you have a right to be critical. đ That was a hilarious false equivalency |
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Post by sdsustoner on Aug 20, 2024 15:40:16 GMT -8
While Lewis is far more qualified than all of us combined to make the QB decision so was the staff who put the best QB on the roster at safety I'm not saying they're the same staffs nor going to have the same results. But, we are allowed to question coaching decisions regarding the QB especially with the recent history at the university. I think we can all say that there is a major improvement in the coaching staff, depth at QB, experience at the receiver position, good selection of RB's and a solid looking starting O-Line going into the the season. The only thing in question is how is it all going to work together, this team looks to have the pieces to put together a pretty good team once things come together (if and when is the question!) Go Aztecs! (Fast) That I agree with I'd take all three QBs over what the team had since that dude from Kentucky played QB here. The WRs are leaps and bounds beyond what we've had here in the recent past. What's stopping me from being 100% sold on O'Neil is he had the worst scrimmages out of the three QBs. |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Aug 20, 2024 15:50:32 GMT -8
I think we can all say that there is a major improvement in the coaching staff, depth at QB, experience at the receiver position, good selection of RB's and a solid looking starting O-Line going into the the season. The only thing in question is how is it all going to work together, this team looks to have the pieces to put together a pretty good team once things come together (if and when is the question!) Go Aztecs! (Fast) That I agree with I'd take all three QBs over what the team had since that dude from Kentucky played QB here. The WRs are leaps and bounds beyond what we've had here in the recent past. What's stopping me from being 100% sold on O'Neil is he had the worst scrimmages out of the three QBs. I hope O'Neil kills it this year, but the scrimmages have not instilled confidence. If, as some have suggested, they plan to run more than anticipated, how can I complain as that is my old school preference. |
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Post by zbt69 on Aug 20, 2024 16:09:56 GMT -8
Wow Stoner I'm glad you were never my boss. If you would put me behind the 8 ball without me even starting the job you would have been a terrible boss. Now if you don't see improvement over past performance from the previous staff after 4 or 5 games then you have a right to be critical. đ That was a hrious false equivalency [/quo Not a false equivalent he is make judgements without any facts too back them up. Give this staff some room to perform without makimg ridiculous statements. If you have ever been a boss you don't start criticizing your employees before they have a chance to show you they can succeed at the job. When anyone makes hasty judgements you aren't helping anyone but yourself feel important. Yes I know this is a fan site, but let's be somewhat logical. |
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Post by aztecfred on Aug 20, 2024 16:11:34 GMT -8
Sorry, but this will be a run first O. It will be used to set up the pass. If you have Cooper, you will run. I don't think it will be like recent years, where we ran on 1st,2nd,3rd and 4th down though. And I don't have a problem with that. It will come down to whether we can make the pass when we do throw it? And not turn the ball over. It's all about setting up the pass. Especially in early games this season. We will see if we have a/any QB's that can stretch the field, make the sideline pass and find/hit the open receiver. This game should be one to work the kinks out, because O ST n Cal will be big tests. After the bye, at CMU we better be up and running on all cylinders or gonna be long season with 4 home games and 5 roadies down the strech.
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Post by dlangford9 on Aug 20, 2024 16:29:35 GMT -8
I think the previous post makes some good points. We have a very good group of running backs and far better group of wide receivers. Overall, the group of quarterbacks is also vastly improved. As far as the offensive line, they canât be as bad as last year, and seem to be more talented.
Maybe we can catch Oregon State offguard and not up to potential early in the season. It will also be their first road game. I also never expect Cal to play well. I think itâs possible to sneak off a win in one of those two games and get through the non-conference schedule 3-1. if that happens, 5-3 in the Mountain West conference should be a very attainable goal. Maybe even 6-2 but either way going to a bowl game
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 20, 2024 16:54:10 GMT -8
Danny O'Neil will be a game manager for the interim. Hand the ball off, quick outs, slants comebacks, with the occasional deep shot and hopefully he'll know when to tuck it in and run. Also, let's see how well the O'line will protect him. That's up in the air, as well.
Lewis will make it easy on his prize recruit. The only question will be, are we going to be too conservative? We'll see. Hoping for the best.
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Aug 20, 2024 17:44:05 GMT -8
Danny O'Neil will be a game manager for the interim. Hand the ball off, quick outs, slants comebacks, with the occasional deep shot and hopefully he'll know when to tuck it in and run. Also, let's see how well the O'line will protect him. That's up in the air, as well. Lewis will make it easy on his prize recruit. The only question will be, are we going to be too conservative? We'll see. Hoping for the best. This sounds a lot like last year. |
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Post by jp92grad on Aug 20, 2024 17:56:01 GMT -8
Danny O'Neil will be a game manager for the interim. Hand the ball off, quick outs, slants comebacks, with the occasional deep shot and hopefully he'll know when to tuck it in and run. Also, let's see how well the O'line will protect him. That's up in the air, as well. Lewis will make it easy on his prize recruit. The only question will be, are we going to be too conservative? We'll see. Hoping for the best. This sounds a lot like last year. with any comparison to last years team or coaching staff. |
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 20, 2024 18:05:34 GMT -8
Danny O'Neil will be a game manager for the interim. Hand the ball off, quick outs, slants comebacks, with the occasional deep shot and hopefully he'll know when to tuck it in and run. Also, let's see how well the O'line will protect him. That's up in the air, as well. Lewis will make it easy on his prize recruit. The only question will be, are we going to be too conservative? We'll see. Hoping for the best. This sounds a lot like last year. Unfortunately. |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Aug 20, 2024 18:08:07 GMT -8
This sounds a lot like last year. with any comparison to last years team or coaching staff. What am I allowed to post commissar? |
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Post by jp92grad on Aug 20, 2024 19:04:26 GMT -8
STOP with any comparison to last years team or coaching staff. What am I allowed to post commissar? Not looking to be the commissioner or commissar but comparing this current staff and team with prior years, kind of insulting What commonality do these offense share? 1) Completely different offensive coaching staff at every position (basically NO connection to prior staff) 2) QB's (1-2-3) have no game experience connection from prior staff 3) Number 1 RB no connection to prior staff 4) New starting LT, TR and C, no connection 5) 2 deep at TE, new no connection With Coach Lewis having a proven track record of moving the ball (running and throwing) at the D1 level (10+ years HC, OC and QB coaching) should allow for him to be given a few games to prove himself and NOT be compared to the staff here from the last couple years. The prior staff's here were TERRIBLE! ! ! |
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Post by gamer2101 on Aug 20, 2024 19:05:34 GMT -8
Boise picked Madsen over Nelson in their QB battle That's a bigger surprise Makes you wonder. The kid from UNLV was brought in behind him at USC, so he left for Boise. He gets to Boise and gets beat out again. How did they not know during recruiting? Hope he can come back from this. |
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Post by sdsustoner on Aug 20, 2024 19:17:42 GMT -8
đ That was a hrious false equivalency [/quo Not a false equivalent he is make judgements without any facts too back them up. Give this staff some room to perform without makimg ridiculous statements. If you have ever been a boss you don't start criticizing your employees before they have a chance to show you they can succeed at the job. When anyone makes hasty judgements you aren't helping anyone but yourself feel important. Yes I know this is a fan site, but let's be somewhat logical. It's so false it's upside down. If you were as logical as you are condescending you'd know an actual example would be a worker being skeptical about new management because the last two CEOs at the same organization he's been a part of were not very good at certain metrics that matter to that worker. Also, are you attempting to define my skepticism on O'Neil as a hasty judgment? Please elaborate and let's be somewhat logical. |
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Post by sdsustoner on Aug 20, 2024 19:22:51 GMT -8
That I agree with I'd take all three QBs over what the team had since that dude from Kentucky played QB here. The WRs are leaps and bounds beyond what we've had here in the recent past. What's stopping me from being 100% sold on O'Neil is he had the worst scrimmages out of the three QBs. I hope O'Neil kills it this year, but the scrimmages have not instilled confidence. If, as some have suggested, they plan to run more than anticipated, how can I complain as that is my old school preference. Same. I hope he sets records. I don't think he's a bad QB. He's better than every option we've had since 2019 and maybe before. |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Aug 20, 2024 19:23:23 GMT -8
What am I allowed to post commissar? Not looking to be the commissioner or commissar but comparing this current staff and team with prior years, kind of insulting   What commonality do these offense share? 1) Completely different offensive coaching staff at every position (basically NO connection to prior staff) 2) QB's (1-2-3) have no game experience connection from prior staff 3) Number 1 RB no connection to prior staff  4) New starting LT, TR and C, no connection 5) 2 deep at TE, new no connection With Coach Lewis having a proven track record of moving the ball (running and throwing) at the D1 level (10+ years HC, OC and QB coaching) should allow for him to be given a few games to prove himself and NOT be compared to the staff here from the last couple years. The prior staff's here were TERRIBLE! ! ! If, as people are suggesting and in particular the post I commented on, Lewis uses OâNeil as a game manager with a run first approach, then it will be just like last year no matter if there are new coaches, new TEâs, or any other change. I donât think people are saying this because they are trying to insult or disparage Lewis, but more likely suggesting (or hopeful) that he will play to the perceived strengths of the team. If you donât agree with the speculation, then great, either ignore and move on or post your opinion on what Lewisâ offensive philosophy will be for the upcoming season rather posting people to âStopâ. |
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Post by sdsustoner on Aug 20, 2024 19:25:42 GMT -8
Boise picked Madsen over Nelson in their QB battle That's a bigger surprise Makes you wonder. The kid from UNLV was brought in behind him at USC, so he left for Boise. He gets to Boise and gets beat out again. How did they not know during recruiting? Hope he can come back from this. Purdy the former 4 star from Florida State & Nebraska didn't win the job at Nevada too. That's 0-3 on former P4 4 & 5 stars in the MWC vs 3 stars |
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Aug 20, 2024 19:29:07 GMT -8
There have been plenty of bad coaches on the mesa, so this whole "the coach knows better than us" argument is lame. There are lots of fans who are emotionally removed from the team who can make objective evaluations of talent
That said, I have no idea if this is the right move or not but I hope he works out and will be rooting for him. I haven't seen any of the scrimmages
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Post by zurac315 on Aug 20, 2024 19:40:49 GMT -8
Not looking to be the commissioner or commissar but comparing this current staff and team with prior years, kind of insulting   What commonality do these offense share? 1) Completely different offensive coaching staff at every position (basically NO connection to prior staff) 2) QB's (1-2-3) have no game experience connection from prior staff 3) Number 1 RB no connection to prior staff  4) New starting LT, TR and C, no connection 5) 2 deep at TE, new no connection With Coach Lewis having a proven track record of moving the ball (running and throwing) at the D1 level (10+ years HC, OC and QB coaching) should allow for him to be given a few games to prove himself and NOT be compared to the staff here from the last couple years. The prior staff's here were TERRIBLE! ! ! If, as people are suggesting and in particular the post I commented on, Lewis uses OâNeil as a game manager with a run first approach, then it will be just like last year no matter if there are new coaches, new TEâs, or any other change. I donât think people are saying this because they are trying to insult or disparage Lewis, but more likely suggesting (or hopeful) that he will play to the perceived strengths of the team. If you donât agree with the speculation, then great, either ignore and move on or post your opinion on what Lewisâ offensive philosophy will be for the upcoming season rather posting people to âStopâ. I don't see Lewis being satisfied with a QB as a game manager. Rocky? Sure. But not the guy we have now. |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Aug 20, 2024 20:11:51 GMT -8
If, as people are suggesting and in particular the post I commented on, Lewis uses OâNeil as a game manager with a run first approach, then it will be just like last year no matter if there are new coaches, new TEâs, or any other change. I donât think people are saying this because they are trying to insult or disparage Lewis, but more likely suggesting (or hopeful) that he will play to the perceived strengths of the team. If you donât agree with the speculation, then great, either ignore and move on or post your opinion on what Lewisâ offensive philosophy will be for the upcoming season rather posting people to âStopâ. I don't see Lewis being satisfied with a QB as a game manager. Rocky? Sure. But not the guy we have now. I agree, it would be hard for the department to promote âAztec Fastâ brand and then end up with a run first offense for the season. But if he did actually decide to go run first because thatâs what the talent dictates, I would rip my cap. |
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