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Post by aztecryan on Apr 16, 2024 16:40:36 GMT -8
Same person. Different network. Same lie.
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 16, 2024 16:52:06 GMT -8
I love jury duty. I was on a case last year. Of course, I get paid jury leave and I love the 90 minute lunch breaks. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) Same. Everyone should serve on a jury at least once. It gives one a new appreciation of how difficult it is, e.g. I hadn't ever served prior to the OJ trial and I couldn't fathom how they couldn't find him guilty. After serving now four times (once as foreman) I now understand all the nuances involved. Jury/judge instructions alone can turn what seems like a no-brainer/slam dunk case into a complex clusterF. Are you a lawyer? I thought I heard you mention that you are. Just curious.
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Apr 16, 2024 17:42:11 GMT -8
I love jury duty. I was on a case last year. Of course, I get paid jury leave and I love the 90 minute lunch breaks. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) Same. Everyone should serve on a jury at least once. It gives one a new appreciation of how difficult it is, e.g. I hadn't ever served prior to the OJ trial and I couldn't fathom how they couldn't find him guilty. After serving now four times (once as foreman) I now understand all the nuances involved. Jury/judge instructions alone can turn what seems like a no-brainer/slam dunk case into a complex clusterF. I don't want to hijack the thread...but I want to put your mind at ease as to why the jury found OJ not guilty...conventional wisdom is that the predominantly Black jury let The Juice off as payback to whitey for Rodney King...it's not hard to conjure that with racial issues we have in America...be that as it may...here are the reasons for reasonable doubt: Prosecutors hung their case on the blood evidence...OJ's blood was at scene of the crime...his Bronco...and a sock...and the reason why the blood was there was because in the process of murder with a knife...he cut his finger...now hearing one pictures copious amounts of blood...DNA proved it was OJ's...that's all most news agencies and talking heads went with...thus the public's perception was OJ should/would be found guilty on that alone...open and shut case...but here's what most didn't hear about that the jury did. Vannatter Tells Why Brought Blood Sample to Simpson's Home"Another criticism during the trial dealt with a vial of blood taken from Simpson. Police Detective Philip Vannatter drew Simpson's blood at the LAPD on June 13, the day after the killings. But instead of booking it into evidence, Vannatter put the blood vial in his pocket and went to Simpson's home where criminalists were collecting evidence. Jurors questioned why he would have carried it around for hours rather than booking it and the defense argued it may have been used to plant evidence such as blood drops on Simpson's front walkway." www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1996-11-02-me-60419-story.htmlThat's weird...who does that?...then it is learned blood is missing from the vial the police detective brought to OJ's home. Lab exec: O.J. Blood May Be Missing"LOS ANGELES, May 4 -- A police crime lab official acknowledged Thursday that nearly 20 percent of a blood sample taken from double- murder suspect O.J. Simpson could be missing." "In his fourth day of testimony, assistant lab director Gregory Matheson agreed with the defense's contention that 1.5 to 1.9 milliliters of Simpson's blood could be unaccounted for if a police nurse had taken an 8-milliliter sample." www.upi.com/Archives/1995/05/04/Lab-exec-OJ-blood-may-be-missing/1245799560000/There were not copious amounts of OJ's blood at the scenes...just drops and smears....lastly. The O.J. Simpson Case: The Sock Evidence Reconstructed"Their conclusion was that the video was taken before the criminalist examined the socks. The fact that they were not to be seen in the video was significant: it allowed the defense to assert that they were planted, and supported the theory that their defendant was being framed." "The shiny red balls (Color Figure D), coupled with the partial transfer of blood (limited to the top surface of the woven fibers—see Color Figure C), allowed MacDonell to testify that the sock was lying on a flat surface when the reddish liquid was applied by means of a swiping, lateral motion." booksite.elsevier.com/9781455731381/Resources/O.J._Simpson_Sock_Evidence.pdfNicole Brown's blood was clearly planted on OJ's sock...it would be difficult for blood to go through OJ's ankle to the other side of the sock...that my friend is reasonable doubt in abundance...race had nothing to do with the verdict...nobody brings the excused blood to the crime scene, let there be drops here and there...and blood be missing from the vial...but what do the facts have to do with it...especially when you know he's guilty...right.
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Post by uwphoto on Apr 16, 2024 20:14:31 GMT -8
Same. Everyone should serve on a jury at least once. It gives one a new appreciation of how difficult it is, e.g. I hadn't ever served prior to the OJ trial and I couldn't fathom how they couldn't find him guilty. After serving now four times (once as foreman) I now understand all the nuances involved. Jury/judge instructions alone can turn what seems like a no-brainer/slam dunk case into a complex clusterF. I don't want to hijack the thread...but I want to put your mind at ease as to why the jury found OJ not guilty...conventional wisdom is that the predominantly Black jury let The Juice off as payback to whitey for Rodney King...it's not hard to conjure that with racial issues we have in America...be that as it may...here are the reasons for reasonable doubt: Prosecutors hung their case on the blood evidence...OJ's blood was at scene of the crime...his Bronco...and a sock...and the reason why the blood was there was because in the process of murder with a knife...he cut his finger...now hearing one pictures copious amounts of blood...DNA proved it was OJ's...that's all most news agencies and talking heads went with...thus the public's perception was OJ should/would be found guilty on that alone...open and shut case...but here's what most didn't hear about that the jury did. Vannatter Tells Why Brought Blood Sample to Simpson's Home"Another criticism during the trial dealt with a vial of blood taken from Simpson. Police Detective Philip Vannatter drew Simpson's blood at the LAPD on June 13, the day after the killings. But instead of booking it into evidence, Vannatter put the blood vial in his pocket and went to Simpson's home where criminalists were collecting evidence. Jurors questioned why he would have carried it around for hours rather than booking it and the defense argued it may have been used to plant evidence such as blood drops on Simpson's front walkway." www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1996-11-02-me-60419-story.htmlThat's weird...who does that?...then it is learned blood is missing from the vial the police detective brought to OJ's home. Lab exec: O.J. Blood May Be Missing"LOS ANGELES, May 4 -- A police crime lab official acknowledged Thursday that nearly 20 percent of a blood sample taken from double- murder suspect O.J. Simpson could be missing." "In his fourth day of testimony, assistant lab director Gregory Matheson agreed with the defense's contention that 1.5 to 1.9 milliliters of Simpson's blood could be unaccounted for if a police nurse had taken an 8-milliliter sample." www.upi.com/Archives/1995/05/04/Lab-exec-OJ-blood-may-be-missing/1245799560000/There were not copious amounts of OJ's blood at the scenes...just drops and smears....lastly. The O.J. Simpson Case: The Sock Evidence Reconstructed"Their conclusion was that the video was taken before the criminalist examined the socks. The fact that they were not to be seen in the video was significant: it allowed the defense to assert that they were planted, and supported the theory that their defendant was being framed." "The shiny red balls (Color Figure D), coupled with the partial transfer of blood (limited to the top surface of the woven fibers—see Color Figure C), allowed MacDonell to testify that the sock was lying on a flat surface when the reddish liquid was applied by means of a swiping, lateral motion." booksite.elsevier.com/9781455731381/Resources/O.J._Simpson_Sock_Evidence.pdfNicole Brown's blood was clearly planted on OJ's sock...it would be difficult for blood to go through OJ's ankle to the other side of the sock...that my friend is reasonable doubt in abundance...race had nothing to do with the verdict...nobody brings the excused blood to the crime scene, let there be drops here and there...and blood be missing from the vial...but what do the facts have to do with it...especially when you know he's guilty...right. I am so distraught that my ex wife just got murdered, that I think I will joy ride down the freeway with a gun to my head..with somebody else driving.
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 16, 2024 21:00:41 GMT -8
Same. Everyone should serve on a jury at least once. It gives one a new appreciation of how difficult it is, e.g. I hadn't ever served prior to the OJ trial and I couldn't fathom how they couldn't find him guilty. After serving now four times (once as foreman) I now understand all the nuances involved. Jury/judge instructions alone can turn what seems like a no-brainer/slam dunk case into a complex clusterF. I don't want to hijack the thread...but I want to put your mind at ease as to why the jury found OJ not guilty...conventional wisdom is that the predominantly Black jury let The Juice off as payback to whitey for Rodney King...it's not hard to conjure that with racial issues we have in America...be that as it may...here are the reasons for reasonable doubt: Prosecutors hung their case on the blood evidence...OJ's blood was at scene of the crime...his Bronco...and a sock...and the reason why the blood was there was because in the process of murder with a knife...he cut his finger...now hearing one pictures copious amounts of blood...DNA proved it was OJ's...that's all most news agencies and talking heads went with...thus the public's perception was OJ should/would be found guilty on that alone...open and shut case...but here's what most didn't hear about that the jury did. Vannatter Tells Why Brought Blood Sample to Simpson's Home"Another criticism during the trial dealt with a vial of blood taken from Simpson. Police Detective Philip Vannatter drew Simpson's blood at the LAPD on June 13, the day after the killings. But instead of booking it into evidence, Vannatter put the blood vial in his pocket and went to Simpson's home where criminalists were collecting evidence. Jurors questioned why he would have carried it around for hours rather than booking it and the defense argued it may have been used to plant evidence such as blood drops on Simpson's front walkway." www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1996-11-02-me-60419-story.htmlThat's weird...who does that?...then it is learned blood is missing from the vial the police detective brought to OJ's home. Lab exec: O.J. Blood May Be Missing"LOS ANGELES, May 4 -- A police crime lab official acknowledged Thursday that nearly 20 percent of a blood sample taken from double- murder suspect O.J. Simpson could be missing." "In his fourth day of testimony, assistant lab director Gregory Matheson agreed with the defense's contention that 1.5 to 1.9 milliliters of Simpson's blood could be unaccounted for if a police nurse had taken an 8-milliliter sample." www.upi.com/Archives/1995/05/04/Lab-exec-OJ-blood-may-be-missing/1245799560000/There were not copious amounts of OJ's blood at the scenes...just drops and smears....lastly. The O.J. Simpson Case: The Sock Evidence Reconstructed"Their conclusion was that the video was taken before the criminalist examined the socks. The fact that they were not to be seen in the video was significant: it allowed the defense to assert that they were planted, and supported the theory that their defendant was being framed." "The shiny red balls (Color Figure D), coupled with the partial transfer of blood (limited to the top surface of the woven fibers—see Color Figure C), allowed MacDonell to testify that the sock was lying on a flat surface when the reddish liquid was applied by means of a swiping, lateral motion." booksite.elsevier.com/9781455731381/Resources/O.J._Simpson_Sock_Evidence.pdfNicole Brown's blood was clearly planted on OJ's sock...it would be difficult for blood to go through OJ's ankle to the other side of the sock...that my friend is reasonable doubt in abundance...race had nothing to do with the verdict...nobody brings the excused blood to the crime scene, let there be drops here and there...and blood be missing from the vial...but what do the facts have to do with it...especially when you know he's guilty...right. Do you think OJ is innocent? Race had NOTHING to do with the verdict for ALL jurors? Come on now. Some jury members admitted that it was a payback for the Rodney King case, so there's that. The jury also said that they didn't understand more than half of what the prosecutors, and prosecutors DNA specialists were talking about when it came to the DNA. He was so innocent, that he drove around for hours, suicidal, wanting to kill himself on Nicole's grave. There is soooo much more, but I don't have time to go through it right now. This is coming from a guy, who really admired OJ before this, like so many did. I REALLY wanted him to be innocent.
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Apr 17, 2024 8:13:02 GMT -8
I don't want to hijack the thread...but I want to put your mind at ease as to why the jury found OJ not guilty...conventional wisdom is that the predominantly Black jury let The Juice off as payback to whitey for Rodney King...it's not hard to conjure that with racial issues we have in America...be that as it may...here are the reasons for reasonable doubt: Prosecutors hung their case on the blood evidence...OJ's blood was at scene of the crime...his Bronco...and a sock...and the reason why the blood was there was because in the process of murder with a knife...he cut his finger...now hearing one pictures copious amounts of blood...DNA proved it was OJ's...that's all most news agencies and talking heads went with...thus the public's perception was OJ should/would be found guilty on that alone...open and shut case...but here's what most didn't hear about that the jury did. Vannatter Tells Why Brought Blood Sample to Simpson's Home"Another criticism during the trial dealt with a vial of blood taken from Simpson. Police Detective Philip Vannatter drew Simpson's blood at the LAPD on June 13, the day after the killings. But instead of booking it into evidence, Vannatter put the blood vial in his pocket and went to Simpson's home where criminalists were collecting evidence. Jurors questioned why he would have carried it around for hours rather than booking it and the defense argued it may have been used to plant evidence such as blood drops on Simpson's front walkway." www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1996-11-02-me-60419-story.htmlThat's weird...who does that?...then it is learned blood is missing from the vial the police detective brought to OJ's home. Lab exec: O.J. Blood May Be Missing"LOS ANGELES, May 4 -- A police crime lab official acknowledged Thursday that nearly 20 percent of a blood sample taken from double- murder suspect O.J. Simpson could be missing." "In his fourth day of testimony, assistant lab director Gregory Matheson agreed with the defense's contention that 1.5 to 1.9 milliliters of Simpson's blood could be unaccounted for if a police nurse had taken an 8-milliliter sample." www.upi.com/Archives/1995/05/04/Lab-exec-OJ-blood-may-be-missing/1245799560000/There were not copious amounts of OJ's blood at the scenes...just drops and smears....lastly. The O.J. Simpson Case: The Sock Evidence Reconstructed"Their conclusion was that the video was taken before the criminalist examined the socks. The fact that they were not to be seen in the video was significant: it allowed the defense to assert that they were planted, and supported the theory that their defendant was being framed." "The shiny red balls (Color Figure D), coupled with the partial transfer of blood (limited to the top surface of the woven fibers—see Color Figure C), allowed MacDonell to testify that the sock was lying on a flat surface when the reddish liquid was applied by means of a swiping, lateral motion." booksite.elsevier.com/9781455731381/Resources/O.J._Simpson_Sock_Evidence.pdfNicole Brown's blood was clearly planted on OJ's sock...it would be difficult for blood to go through OJ's ankle to the other side of the sock...that my friend is reasonable doubt in abundance...race had nothing to do with the verdict...nobody brings the excused blood to the crime scene, let there be drops here and there...and blood be missing from the vial...but what do the facts have to do with it...especially when you know he's guilty...right. I am so distraught that my ex wife just got murdered, that I think I will joy ride down the freeway with a gun to my head..with somebody else driving. Wife just died...kids taken...career over...admiration over...lifestyle over...tv cameras/talking heads salivating over his downfall...regardless of innocence...may make a person suicidal.
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Post by azson on Apr 17, 2024 8:20:16 GMT -8
Same. Everyone should serve on a jury at least once. It gives one a new appreciation of how difficult it is, e.g. I hadn't ever served prior to the OJ trial and I couldn't fathom how they couldn't find him guilty. After serving now four times (once as foreman) I now understand all the nuances involved. Jury/judge instructions alone can turn what seems like a no-brainer/slam dunk case into a complex clusterF. Are you a lawyer? I thought I heard you mention that you are. Just curious. Legal assistant (responsible for the court filings, etc). And like Erik I'm fortunate enough to work in a field that encourages jury duty, i.e. we get paid our regular work salary to attend.
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Apr 17, 2024 8:24:19 GMT -8
I don't want to hijack the thread...but I want to put your mind at ease as to why the jury found OJ not guilty...conventional wisdom is that the predominantly Black jury let The Juice off as payback to whitey for Rodney King...it's not hard to conjure that with racial issues we have in America...be that as it may...here are the reasons for reasonable doubt: Prosecutors hung their case on the blood evidence...OJ's blood was at scene of the crime...his Bronco...and a sock...and the reason why the blood was there was because in the process of murder with a knife...he cut his finger...now hearing one pictures copious amounts of blood...DNA proved it was OJ's...that's all most news agencies and talking heads went with...thus the public's perception was OJ should/would be found guilty on that alone...open and shut case...but here's what most didn't hear about that the jury did. Vannatter Tells Why Brought Blood Sample to Simpson's Home"Another criticism during the trial dealt with a vial of blood taken from Simpson. Police Detective Philip Vannatter drew Simpson's blood at the LAPD on June 13, the day after the killings. But instead of booking it into evidence, Vannatter put the blood vial in his pocket and went to Simpson's home where criminalists were collecting evidence. Jurors questioned why he would have carried it around for hours rather than booking it and the defense argued it may have been used to plant evidence such as blood drops on Simpson's front walkway." www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1996-11-02-me-60419-story.htmlThat's weird...who does that?...then it is learned blood is missing from the vial the police detective brought to OJ's home. Lab exec: O.J. Blood May Be Missing"LOS ANGELES, May 4 -- A police crime lab official acknowledged Thursday that nearly 20 percent of a blood sample taken from double- murder suspect O.J. Simpson could be missing." "In his fourth day of testimony, assistant lab director Gregory Matheson agreed with the defense's contention that 1.5 to 1.9 milliliters of Simpson's blood could be unaccounted for if a police nurse had taken an 8-milliliter sample." www.upi.com/Archives/1995/05/04/Lab-exec-OJ-blood-may-be-missing/1245799560000/There were not copious amounts of OJ's blood at the scenes...just drops and smears....lastly. The O.J. Simpson Case: The Sock Evidence Reconstructed"Their conclusion was that the video was taken before the criminalist examined the socks. The fact that they were not to be seen in the video was significant: it allowed the defense to assert that they were planted, and supported the theory that their defendant was being framed." "The shiny red balls (Color Figure D), coupled with the partial transfer of blood (limited to the top surface of the woven fibers—see Color Figure C), allowed MacDonell to testify that the sock was lying on a flat surface when the reddish liquid was applied by means of a swiping, lateral motion." booksite.elsevier.com/9781455731381/Resources/O.J._Simpson_Sock_Evidence.pdfNicole Brown's blood was clearly planted on OJ's sock...it would be difficult for blood to go through OJ's ankle to the other side of the sock...that my friend is reasonable doubt in abundance...race had nothing to do with the verdict...nobody brings the excused blood to the crime scene, let there be drops here and there...and blood be missing from the vial...but what do the facts have to do with it...especially when you know he's guilty...right. Do you think OJ is innocent? Race had NOTHING to do with the verdict for ALL jurors? Come on now. Some jury members admitted that it was a payback for the Rodney King case, so there's that. The jury also said that they didn't understand more than half of what the prosecutors, and prosecutors DNA specialists were talking about when it came to the DNA. He was so innocent, that he drove around for hours, suicidal, wanting to kill himself on Nicole's grave. There is soooo much more, but I don't have time to go through it right now. This is coming from a guy, who really admired OJ before this, like so many did. I REALLY wanted him to be innocent. I was not there...so I have no knowledge of if he did or didn't have her killed...I don't think he did it himself...in a jealous rage...all I know is what was presented at the trial...an investigating detective should not take blood from a nurse/lab/police station and take it to the crime scene...blood from the vial should not be missing...items of clothing supposedly worn during the killing should not disappear then reappear with the victims blood on it...that's disqualifying...that killed the case and everything that was presented before and after...I didn't even mention planted gloves and Mark Furman...if it was so clear cut that OJ did it...then the LA police wouldn't had to plant evidence to help the case...sowing seeds of doubt in the non-biased mind.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 18, 2024 7:35:19 GMT -8
We've lost a juror.
Note that Fox isn't the only network that has given background details out on the jury, but with Trump amplifying these comments, the juror has been excused.
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Post by uwphoto on Apr 18, 2024 9:08:25 GMT -8
I personally don't know anyone who either doesn't despise (95%) or love (5%) trump. That's not to say there are some out there who have no opinion...I just don't know anyone like that. you would have to live in a bubble..or not be in a work place where people gather.
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Post by azson on Apr 18, 2024 9:12:41 GMT -8
We've lost a juror. Note that Fox isn't the only network that has given background details out on the jury, but with Trump amplifying these comments, the juror has been excused. What a FN circus. I weep for our country.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 19, 2024 9:36:30 GMT -8
A complete jury has been sat. Opening statements appear on track for Monday. The trail of justice begins.
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Post by azson on Apr 19, 2024 15:33:19 GMT -8
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Post by aztecmusician on Apr 22, 2024 6:48:29 GMT -8
Let’s see now….
-Trump is off the campaign trail. -Trump is being demonetized by excessive fines.
The Democrat strategy of using the Justice System to achieve their political objectives seems to be working. MSNBC, CNN, CBS, PBS, ABC, NPR just can’t stop talking about it.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 22, 2024 7:27:30 GMT -8
Let’s see now…. -Trump is off the campaign trail. -Trump is being demonetized by excessive fines. The Democrat strategy of using the Justice System to achieve their political objectives seems to be working. MSNBC, CNN, CBS, PBS, ABC, NPR just can’t stop talking about it. Like you watch any of those networks. But yeah, it's actual...news. He's not paying his own fines, so you can relax. Maybe don't commit crimes?
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Post by aztecmusician on Apr 22, 2024 13:16:51 GMT -8
Let’s see now…. -Trump is off the campaign trail. -Trump is being demonetized by excessive fines. The Democrat strategy of using the Justice System to achieve their political objectives seems to be working. MSNBC, CNN, CBS, PBS, ABC, NPR just can’t stop talking about it. Like you watch any of those networks. But yeah, it's actual...news. He's not paying his own fines, so you can relax. Maybe don't commit crimes? Matthew Colangelo, Biden’s Acting Associate Attorney General gave the opening statement today. This is just unbelievable corruption from the White House, right out of Venezuela. Never in the history of the USA has a sitting president abused power against a political opponent to attempt to win an election. Not even Nixon. This administration has truly jumped the shark.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 22, 2024 13:32:22 GMT -8
Like you watch any of those networks. But yeah, it's actual...news. He's not paying his own fines, so you can relax. Maybe don't commit crimes? Matthew Colangelo, Biden’s Acting Associate Attorney General gave the opening statement today. This is just unbelievable corruption from the White House, right out of Venezuela. Never in the history of the USA has a sitting president abused power against a political opponent to attempt to win an election. Not even Nixon. This administration has truly jumped the shark. I have zero faith that anything about this election will be legitimate. Matthew Colangelo is a current Manhattan prosecutor. He was hired in 2022 by Alvin Bragg. Stop with the fake outrage. It's honestly embarrassing, especially when you're blatantly misrepresenting the truth here. If you don't think people can think independently and use Google, you're wrong. Once again, the issue is we have never had a president as corrupt and felonious as Donald Trump. Truly embarrassing. I don't understand how else to convey this.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 22, 2024 13:40:03 GMT -8
Let’s see now…. -Trump is off the campaign trail. -Trump is being demonetized by excessive fines. The Democrat strategy of using the Justice System to achieve their political objectives seems to be working. MSNBC, CNN, CBS, PBS, ABC, NPR just can’t stop talking about it. While actual networks are covering the trial, Fox News is running with this. No wonder you're suffering.
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Post by uwphoto on Apr 22, 2024 13:57:18 GMT -8
Let’s see now…. -Trump is off the campaign trail. -Trump is being demonetized by excessive fines. The Democrat strategy of using the Justice System to achieve their political objectives seems to be working. MSNBC, CNN, CBS, PBS, ABC, NPR just can’t stop talking about it. While actual networks are covering the trial, Fox News is running with this. No wonder you're suffering. maybe the first time he's ever been held accountable. This sleaze of a human $#!+ on John McCain, who was kept in a hole for 5.5 years.."don't like ..captured etc." Poor little baby who craps in a gold toilet and was given $ all his young life by his dad. He's probably never shoped for himself in his life. "They aren't coming after me, they are coming after you"..and his brain dead followers belive this $#!+. If this is suffering for trump, I wanna see it ratchet up..so his followers can finally see what this guy is really made of.
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Post by aztecmusician on Apr 22, 2024 14:01:42 GMT -8
Matthew Colangelo, Biden’s Acting Associate Attorney General gave the opening statement today. This is just unbelievable corruption from the White House, right out of Venezuela. Never in the history of the USA has a sitting president abused power against a political opponent to attempt to win an election. Not even Nixon. This administration has truly jumped the shark. I have zero faith that anything about this election will be legitimate. Matthew Colangelo is a current Manhattan prosecutor. He was hired in 2022 by Alvin Bragg. Stop with the fake outrage. It's honestly embarrassing, especially when you're blatantly misrepresenting the truth here. If you don't think people can think independently and use Google, you're wrong. Once again, the issue is we have never had a president as corrupt and felonious as Donald Trump. Truly embarrassing. I don't understand how else to convey this. Every president since the founding of this country has been granted some level of executive courtesy. Because when you are president, apparently you have to make some tough choices on who dies who gets in our country what countries get attacked, etc. etc. If a president has to worry about the ramifications of his actions after he leaves office, that may impact the decision-making process and potentially harm our country down the road. My question is, why is Donald Trump the first president who apparently is not extended this executive privilege? Nixon had it, Obama LBJ Eisenhower Wilson, Hoover. Each one of these presidents undoubtedly violated a law or two in the course of being president. Why is Trump different? Just because you personally don’t like him is not a valid answer.
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