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Post by benaztecfan on Apr 8, 2024 4:20:00 GMT -8
Players still have the opportunity to utilize the portal until the end of May. Currently, there are over 1,450 Division 1 transfers and 900 Division 2 transfers. I anticipate an additional 500 to 600 Division 1 players may join. However, it's important to note that we are currently involved in a fundraiser to reach $300k in new NIL donations, which will be matched. Therefore, we have some flexibility in terms of timing. Furthermore, we are awaiting feedback from Butler, Parrish, Waters, and possibly Demarshy or others regarding their plans to either stay or leave. Butler has entered his name in the NBA Draft, and I wouldn't be surprised if Waters follows suit, seeking feedback on his game and pursuing his dream. Parrish's return appears to be less likely, but nothing has been confirmed, so we wait, speculate, and wait. The better players are going to be going much sooner then others and SDSU is not really concerned with over 99% of the players that are in the Portal. I would think that once Coach Dutcher gets back from all the MM and Final Four stuff he will be looking at the Exit Type end of year stuff and put a plan together. The plan for Butler should be a quick one, he really seems to be a stand up guy and has a great relationship with Coach Dutcher and they have already been though this exact thing last year, so I am pretty sure they already have an idea of how to handle this. The decision on Waters [/b], Parrish[/b], Demarshy[/b] and even Alger[/b] need to be addressed, because if these three or four players all come back next year this program will be in trouble! The production this season from LeDee some how needs to be replaced next season. Without replacing these players, where is all the scoring and rebounding going to come from as of right now? The Core of next years team right now is: Saunders[/b]- Needs to make a big step up in his entire game. Byrd[/b]- Has the abilities but can he put it all together? Heide[/b]- Needs to add size if he is to play the 5 and needs much more game time. add-in Butler and Waters and you still have needs * the 3 new freshmen should not be expected for much production next year and (you can add Davis into that group)---The way things are looking they should have at a minimum 3-4 opening to get players in the portal. [/quote] Byrd only played in 4 games his freshman year and averaged 14mpg this year. I'd expect at least the same from Davis who played in 12 games this year and probably the same from Gwath. I agree that we won't get much from Taj DeGourville, but we may get 10 min from Compton who is one of our highest recruits in while. |
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Post by vision on Apr 8, 2024 8:04:52 GMT -8
the NCAA basketball has become a league of experience. long gone are the days of Fab5 freshman coming in an dominating....the ONE-and-Done players need experience around them to win in the NCAA Tournament. If we can get LAMONT and PARRISH back we will be BETTER not worse. The best season we have ever had as well as this last season was a result of EXPERIENCED upper classmen not freshmen. Try and remember that when thinking that moving away from LAMONT and MICHA would somehow be a good thing.
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Post by standiego on Apr 8, 2024 8:48:29 GMT -8
Do hope that the 3 Lamont - Waters - and Parrish make their decisions as soon as possible about if they want to play college ball and if it is at SDSU or hit the Portal-would be best for them and SDSU
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Post by smoothcat on Apr 8, 2024 15:17:42 GMT -8
Sorry, but Butler has zero chance of being drafted so not sure what the declaring is all about.
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Post by standiego on Apr 9, 2024 22:09:19 GMT -8
Bottom line wish Lamont the best on whatever he decides to do for next season - can't hurt him to get the opinions of the NBA BUT do hope that Lamont realizes that if he is thinking of coming back to college - he let Dutcher know if he will come back to SDSU or enter the Portal .
The time to work the Portal for SDSU is quite important and it needs to be soon
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Post by LostAztec on Apr 10, 2024 19:32:10 GMT -8
Sorry, but Butler has zero chance of being drafted so not sure what the declaring is all about. To get an NBA Draft Eval. |
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Post by mySTRAS on Apr 10, 2024 19:53:52 GMT -8
Sorry, but Butler has zero chance of being drafted so not sure what the declaring is all about. To get an NBA Draft Eval. Watching this past season... I'm not entirely sure he learned anything from the evaluation he received last year.  |
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Post by standiego on Apr 11, 2024 8:38:37 GMT -8
think Dutcher might prefer that the evaluation come from the NBA rather then the staff have to relate the information to him
But think it would benefit Lamont to be upfront with Dutcher - and say If he comes back to college will it be at SDSU or another school
I do not think there has been any official announcement
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Post by Gundo on Apr 11, 2024 16:14:55 GMT -8
think Dutcher might prefer that the evaluation come from the NBA rather than the staff have to relate the information to him But think it would benefit Lamont to be upfront with Dutcher - and say If he comes back to college will it be at SDSU or another school I do not think there has been any official announcement Lamont Butler has declared for the NBA Draft early entry, as of today he did not enter his name into the draft portal. Only Micah and Cade are currently in the portal, which gives us two scholarships to sign transfers (NIL considered). |
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Post by miners22 on Apr 11, 2024 19:28:54 GMT -8
Gundo Co-ordinator is spot on in HIS analysis of Butler and et al. about NBA possibilities. I hate to state this, but ANYBODY can PLAY in the NBA!!
if HE can shoot the 3, athletic, not BALL DOMINANT and looks like HE can play DEFENSE!
Shooting the 3 means catch and shoot; standing still and shoot when you are wide open and CONSISTENT (i.e. Not a STREAKY SHOOTER)
Unfortunately, because of Steph Curry, the NBA is a 3 point SHOOTING League. What separates Curry for others is not only, RANGE and CONSISTENCY
but also, HE is adept to creating off the DRIBBLE for HIMSELF and HIS teammates.
Curry can't guard a FLEA, but HE tries! Fredette could SCORE the BALL, HE was BALL DOMINANT, could not DEFEND a TICK; Was not a COMSISTENT 3
point SHOOTER, was not ATHLECTIC and HE never made HIS teammates better.
However, HE got DRAFTED based on the number of POINTS HE SCORED because HIS teammates sacrificed their GAME for HIM. NBA Players do not give a crap
about their teammates!!
It's sad that the NBA has evolved into a 3 point shooting contest!! College is not too far behind. Red Auerbach and John Wooden are tossing
and turning in their GRAVES because of the way the game is played.
Imagine Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Alcindor/Jabbar, Bill Walton playing in TODAY'S College and NBA? Sure, ALL would dominate the BOARDS
and control the PAINT ON D.
But, I doubt their teammates would PASS the BALL into the LOW POST. All would be forced to SHOOT the 3! Heck, Wilt could barely SHOOT a FREE THROW!
We would have never seen the SKY HOOK; SHAQ would have tried to DUNK the BALL from the 3 point line! This is why the Milwaukee Bucks are
struggling because Brook Lopez really believes HE is a designated 3 point SHOOTER!
May I suggest to ALL PARENTS, UNCLES and GRAND PARENTS that have a Grandson/Granddaughter, TEACH/TRAIN HE or SHE the ART of SHOOTING the BASKETBALL
from the 3 POINT LINE, the LOGO, MID-COURT and the PARKING LOT!!
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 11, 2024 20:04:51 GMT -8
Gundo Co-ordinator is spot on in HIS analysis of Butler and et al. about NBA possibilities. I hate to state this, but ANYBODY can PLAY in the NBA!! if HE can shoot the 3, athletic, not BALL DOMINANT and looks like HE can play DEFENSE! Shooting the 3 means catch and shoot; standing still and shoot when you are wide open and CONSISTENT (i.e. Not a STREAKY SHOOTER) Unfortunately, because of Steph Curry, the NBA is a 3 point SHOOTING League. What separates Curry for others is not only, RANGE and CONSISTENCY but also, HE is adept to creating off the DRIBBLE for HIMSELF and HIS teammates. Curry can't guard a FLEA, but HE tries! Fredette could SCORE the BALL, HE was BALL DOMINANT, could not DEFEND a TICK; Was not a COMSISTENT 3 point SHOOTER, was not ATHLECTIC and HE never made HIS teammates better. However, HE got DRAFTED based on the number of POINTS HE SCORED because HIS teammates sacrificed their GAME for HIM. NBA Players do not give a crap about their teammates!! It's sad that the NBA has evolved into a 3 point shooting contest!! College is not too far behind. Red Auerbach and John Wooden are tossing and turning in their GRAVES because of the way the game is played. Imagine Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Alcindor/Jabbar, Bill Walton playing in TODAY'S College and NBA? Sure, ALL would dominate the BOARDS and control the PAINT ON D. But, I doubt their teammates would PASS the BALL into the LOW POST. All would be forced to SHOOT the 3! Heck, Wilt could barely SHOOT a FREE THROW! We would have never seen the SKY HOOK; SHAQ would have tried to DUNK the BALL from the 3 point line! This is why the Milwaukee Bucks are struggling because Brook Lopez really believes HE is a designated 3 point SHOOTER! May I suggest to ALL PARENTS, UNCLES and GRAND PARENTS that have a Grandson/Granddaughter, TEACH/TRAIN HE or SHE the ART of SHOOTING the BASKETBALL from the 3 POINT LINE, the LOGO, MID-COURT and the PARKING LOT!! Ha!!! No doubt. |
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Post by tayloner on Apr 12, 2024 8:18:03 GMT -8
Dutcher mentioned in his interview yesterday that he thinks it’s either the pros for Lamont or a return to the Mesa (same with Reese), whereas with Micah he insinuated the portal was still an option (this was before the Micah news came out). Glad to hear that, I sort of assumed ‘Mont was still leaving the transfer portal door open. I know Ziegler doesn’t always have correct info, but to me he sounded like maybe he had some information from Lamont’s parents or something that the portal was still a possibility.
I think most people agree Lamont’s feedback will likely say he’s not a draftable player this year, but that doesn’t rule out the possibility of overseas teams negotiating contracts with him that would likely exceed his NIL upside this next year.
All in all, I think we’re on a decent track for him to return, but far from a done deal. And the usual question, if he does end up leaving, what lead guard options are left in the portal if he does declare in 5 or 6 weeks.
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Post by aztecron on Apr 12, 2024 8:56:52 GMT -8
Bottom line wish Lamont the best on whatever he decides to do for next season - can't hurt him to get the opinions of the NBA BUT do hope that Lamont realizes that if he is thinking of coming back to college - he let Dutcher know if he will come back to SDSU or enter the Portal . The time to work the Portal for SDSU is quite important and it needs to be soon Sometimes you amaze me, Stan. The time to work the portal has started long before you thought it important and "soon." |
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Post by missiontrails on Apr 12, 2024 10:00:01 GMT -8
Gundo Co-ordinator is spot on in HIS analysis of Butler and et al. about NBA possibilities. I hate to state this, but ANYBODY can PLAY in the NBA!! if HE can shoot the 3, athletic, not BALL DOMINANT and looks like HE can play DEFENSE! Shooting the 3 means catch and shoot; standing still and shoot when you are wide open and CONSISTENT (i.e. Not a STREAKY SHOOTER) Unfortunately, because of Steph Curry, the NBA is a 3 point SHOOTING League. What separates Curry for others is not only, RANGE and CONSISTENCY but also, HE is adept to creating off the DRIBBLE for HIMSELF and HIS teammates. Curry can't guard a FLEA, but HE tries! Fredette could SCORE the BALL, HE was BALL DOMINANT, could not DEFEND a TICK; Was not a COMSISTENT 3 point SHOOTER, was not ATHLECTIC and HE never made HIS teammates better. However, HE got DRAFTED based on the number of POINTS HE SCORED because HIS teammates sacrificed their GAME for HIM. NBA Players do not give a crap about their teammates!! It's sad that the NBA has evolved into a 3 point shooting contest!! College is not too far behind. Red Auerbach and John Wooden are tossing and turning in their GRAVES because of the way the game is played. Imagine Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Alcindor/Jabbar, Bill Walton playing in TODAY'S College and NBA? Sure, ALL would dominate the BOARDS and control the PAINT ON D. But, I doubt their teammates would PASS the BALL into the LOW POST. All would be forced to SHOOT the 3! Heck, Wilt could barely SHOOT a FREE THROW! We would have never seen the SKY HOOK; SHAQ would have tried to DUNK the BALL from the 3 point line! This is why the Milwaukee Bucks are struggling because Brook Lopez really believes HE is a designated 3 point SHOOTER! May I suggest to ALL PARENTS, UNCLES and GRAND PARENTS that have a Grandson/Granddaughter, TEACH/TRAIN HE or SHE the ART of SHOOTING the BASKETBALL from the 3 POINT LINE, the LOGO, MID-COURT and the PARKING LOT!! I know this isn't likely to happen, but maybe it's time for the NBA to move the arc back a little so it's not quite so tempting. I do miss the art of the mid-range jumpshot. Hope Chase is doing well. |
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Apr 12, 2024 10:25:13 GMT -8
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Post by azson on Apr 12, 2024 11:24:33 GMT -8
Gundo Co-ordinator is spot on in HIS analysis of Butler and et al. about NBA possibilities. I hate to state this, but ANYBODY can PLAY in the NBA!! if HE can shoot the 3, athletic, not BALL DOMINANT and looks like HE can play DEFENSE! Shooting the 3 means catch and shoot; standing still and shoot when you are wide open and CONSISTENT (i.e. Not a STREAKY SHOOTER) Unfortunately, because of Steph Curry, the NBA is a 3 point SHOOTING League. What separates Curry for others is not only, RANGE and CONSISTENCY but also, HE is adept to creating off the DRIBBLE for HIMSELF and HIS teammates. Curry can't guard a FLEA, but HE tries! Fredette could SCORE the BALL, HE was BALL DOMINANT, could not DEFEND a TICK; Was not a COMSISTENT 3 point SHOOTER, was not ATHLECTIC and HE never made HIS teammates better. However, HE got DRAFTED based on the number of POINTS HE SCORED because HIS teammates sacrificed their GAME for HIM. NBA Players do not give a crap about their teammates!! It's sad that the NBA has evolved into a 3 point shooting contest!! College is not too far behind. Red Auerbach and John Wooden are tossing and turning in their GRAVES because of the way the game is played. Imagine Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Alcindor/Jabbar, Bill Walton playing in TODAY'S College and NBA? Sure, ALL would dominate the BOARDS and control the PAINT ON D. But, I doubt their teammates would PASS the BALL into the LOW POST. All would be forced to SHOOT the 3! Heck, Wilt could barely SHOOT a FREE THROW! We would have never seen the SKY HOOK; SHAQ would have tried to DUNK the BALL from the 3 point line! This is why the Milwaukee Bucks are struggling because Brook Lopez really believes HE is a designated 3 point SHOOTER! May I suggest to ALL PARENTS, UNCLES and GRAND PARENTS that have a Grandson/Granddaughter, TEACH/TRAIN HE or SHE the ART of SHOOTING the BASKETBALL from the 3 POINT LINE, the LOGO, MID-COURT and the PARKING LOT!! Welcome back, Miners! |
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Post by standiego on Apr 12, 2024 15:10:13 GMT -8
realize that the Portal has been open for a while But as we have seen that when SDSU is battling for a PG - SG - or SF that an opposing school will say that SDSU has starting players returning - Waters- Butler- and Parrish - Now that Parrish says that he will enter the Portal that eliminates the situation about a returning SF coming back .
So until Butler decides what he might do - would guess that a transfer that is looking for a starting possibility at PG - might consider another school - as happened with the Guard from San Jose who went to BSU
Same for Waters - do what you think is correct for you -but make a decision soon so you and SDSU can move forward for the 2024-25 season
So it is difficult for Dutcher to work as hard as he can on getting transfers when transfers do not know what Butler and Waters are going to do - so they might take an offer from another school.
Might also guess that if fans are hoping to get names of possible recruits it might come from Zeigler or not sure if Dutcher gives that information to the Radio team at the Aztec station 760 - If Dutcher does want fans to know
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Post by LostAztec on Apr 12, 2024 16:26:32 GMT -8
Gundo Co-ordinator is spot on in HIS analysis of Butler and et al. about NBA possibilities. I hate to state this, but ANYBODY can PLAY in the NBA!! if HE can shoot the 3, athletic, not BALL DOMINANT and looks like HE can play DEFENSE! Shooting the 3 means catch and shoot; standing still and shoot when you are wide open and CONSISTENT (i.e. Not a STREAKY SHOOTER) Unfortunately, because of Steph Curry, the NBA is a 3 point SHOOTING League. What separates Curry for others is not only, RANGE and CONSISTENCY but also, HE is adept to creating off the DRIBBLE for HIMSELF and HIS teammates. Curry can't guard a FLEA, but HE tries! Fredette could SCORE the BALL, HE was BALL DOMINANT, could not DEFEND a TICK; Was not a COMSISTENT 3 point SHOOTER, was not ATHLECTIC and HE never made HIS teammates better. However, HE got DRAFTED based on the number of POINTS HE SCORED because HIS teammates sacrificed their GAME for HIM. NBA Players do not give a crap about their teammates!! It's sad that the NBA has evolved into a 3 point shooting contest!! College is not too far behind. Red Auerbach and John Wooden are tossing and turning in their GRAVES because of the way the game is played. Imagine Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Alcindor/Jabbar, Bill Walton playing in TODAY'S College and NBA? Sure, ALL would dominate the BOARDS and control the PAINT ON D. But, I doubt their teammates would PASS the BALL into the LOW POST. All would be forced to SHOOT the 3! Heck, Wilt could barely SHOOT a FREE THROW! We would have never seen the SKY HOOK; SHAQ would have tried to DUNK the BALL from the 3 point line! This is why the Milwaukee Bucks are struggling because Brook Lopez really believes HE is a designated 3 point SHOOTER! May I suggest to ALL PARENTS, UNCLES and GRAND PARENTS that have a Grandson/Granddaughter, TEACH/TRAIN HE or SHE the ART of SHOOTING the BASKETBALL from the 3 POINT LINE, the LOGO, MID-COURT and the PARKING LOT!! I know this isn't likely to happen, but maybe it's time for the NBA to move the arc back a little so it's not quite so tempting. I do miss the art of the mid-range jumpshot. Hope Chase is doing well. Analytics have killed the mid-range jumper. It's more statistically beneficial to shoot 33% from three than 45% from mid-range. When a Team like the Azteca is inefficient at 3's and small down low, the baseline jumper or free throw line jump shot just might be the cure. Why the Coaching Staff didn't make that adjustment over the stretch run is a head scratcher. |
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Post by chris92065 on Apr 12, 2024 19:25:40 GMT -8
Butler will be back and be the primary pg which he is best suited for.
Waters will play the 2.
Dutch needs to find the future pg, not next years pg.
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Post by Gundo on Apr 12, 2024 20:44:19 GMT -8
Butler will be back and be the primary pg which he is best suited for. Waters will play the 2. Dutch needs to find the future pg, not next years pg. BJ Davis shouldn't be overlooked. Have you seen his high school highlights? He was named Northern California Player of the Year. He deserves a shot. And keep an eye on Taj Degourville. Standing at 6'5" and weighing 200 pounds, he's a versatile combo guard who can both pass and shoot. I wouldn't be surprised if he sees playing time as a freshman. We're deep. |
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