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Post by oldie on Apr 5, 2024 21:17:16 GMT -8
IMO, after this last season, he's not any where near NBA quality. maybe the potential, but not now. where he plays next year will depend on one thing----NIL $. I'd like to see him back. with some (lots) of work this summer, no telling what his ceiling would be. Aztes could use his experience and effort with possibly many new faces coming in. please, get a a real point guard and a talented 7+ foot center
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Post by sdsuballer on Apr 5, 2024 21:24:04 GMT -8
All he is doing is getting feed back from NBA scouts. I can tell you what they will tell him. He needs to improve on his 3pt shooting, finishing around the rim, and be more aggressive offensively.
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Post by standiego on Apr 5, 2024 22:01:11 GMT -8
Hope He and Dutcher can have a discussion about next year next week when both are around
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 6, 2024 10:54:40 GMT -8
All he is doing is getting feed back from NBA scouts. I can tell you what they will tell him. He needs to improve on his 3pt shooting, finishing around the rim, and be more aggressive offensively. His ball handling is pretty good, but I think he can work on that as well. Oh, and that free throw shooting. Yikes. Work on that as well, please. Maybe the teams aren't as worried about the free throw shooting, because they think they can fix it, but it sure needs help. |
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Post by NYCaztec on Apr 6, 2024 11:05:10 GMT -8
All he is doing is getting feed back from NBA scouts. I can tell you what they will tell him. He needs to improve on his 3pt shooting, finishing around the rim, and be more aggressive offensively. His ball handling is pretty good, but I think he can work on that as well. Oh, and that free throw shooting. Yikes. Work on that as well, please. Maybe the teams aren't as worried about the free throw shooting, because they think they can fix it, but it sure needs help. His inability to handle the ball and make good decisions under heavy pressure when being pressed is definitely an area he could improve. |
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Post by LostAztec on Apr 6, 2024 12:40:29 GMT -8
I think he will hear the same thing he heard a year ago, he needs to work on his offense. The question will be can he get that in our offensive system or does he need to go to a different system like Keshad System is not the problem. Making shots is the need Defensive rebounding late in the game. The Aztecs need to get longer. Jump higher. Block out better. |
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Post by LostAztec on Apr 6, 2024 12:44:10 GMT -8
I think he will hear the same thing he heard a year ago, he needs to work on his offense. The question will be can he get that in our offensive system or does he need to go to a different system like Keshad Any theories on why K. Johnson shot 3s so much better in Arizona? That was his role, so he practiced and did shoot numerous wing three's. |
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Post by LostAztec on Apr 6, 2024 13:07:34 GMT -8
There's a part of me that says it's time for Lamont and Parrish to move on.
Time to rebuild and the best way is to get the newcomers game experience. Saunders and Byrd showed they have game. Especially in the Open Court. BJ has five inches on DT. That's an improvement right there.
Hopefully, Waters can get stronger and get more air under his shots. He's exceptionally good at creating his own shot. The arc in his shot got flatter throughout the season. Which, tells me his legs were gone in the second half of the season. The demands of more minutes and having to play harder on defense ?
With some 7 footers coming in Heide can move to the four.
With the exciting Frosh class coming in, I say, let 'em play !
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Post by hoobs on Apr 6, 2024 13:48:17 GMT -8
I don't get the 'Heide can move to the 4' thoughts here. To my eyes, he is 100% a 5.
I also am very confident that Butler & Waters both have a terrific year in them, and hope they both come back.
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Post by standiego on Apr 6, 2024 13:54:24 GMT -8
have to agree Heide seems more adept at the 5 - rarely took a jump shot and his FT % was less then stellar
Think the 7 ft red shirt might be more of a 4 on offense and could play some at the 5 on defense
But the major need in the Transfer Portal is a true 5
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 6, 2024 14:36:01 GMT -8
His ball handling is pretty good, but I think he can work on that as well. Oh, and that free throw shooting. Yikes. Work on that as well, please. Maybe the teams aren't as worried about the free throw shooting, because they think they can fix it, but it sure needs help. His inability to handle the ball and make good decisions under heavy pressure when being pressed is definitely an area he could improve. For sure. |
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Post by jp92grad on Apr 6, 2024 15:47:20 GMT -8
There's a part of me that says it's time for Lamont and Parrish to move on. Time to rebuild and the best way is to get the newcomers game experience. Saunders and Byrd showed they have game. Especially in the Open Court. BJ has five inches on DT. That's an improvement right there. Hopefully, Waters can get stronger and get more air under his shots. He's exceptionally good at creating his own shot. The arc in his shot got flatter throughout the season. Which, tells me his legs were gone in the second half of the season. The demands of more minutes and having to play harder on defense ? With some 7 footers coming in Heide can move to the four. With the exciting Frosh class coming in, I say, let 'em play ! and Byrd for Butler and Parrish would be a solid trade out that would help the team for the next 2 years. I hate to say it but Butler and Parrish didn't do much ALL Year and appear to have plateaued and or have some internal issues that need fixing. Next years team needs a true PG (over 6'2" Please), a True Big Body 5, a Bigger (scoring) Wing or another PF (like a LeDee, Bradley, Mitchell, Wetzell.... type) |
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Post by standiego on Apr 7, 2024 13:33:41 GMT -8
Many of the teams SDSU will face have a high quality guard or two and the Aztecs will need a quality defender at the guard position - Butler sure has that ability and not easy to replace
Ask most a lot of people and they will tell you when you have to do a lot of running on defense and or play solid defense it takes a lot out of your legs / shooting
Remember the transfer Feagen ( Sp ?) who came to SDSU as a good scorer and defender - he was usually the guy who had to guard the opponents top guard to free up Malachi Flynn as the SG - It did allow Malachi to score in a variety of ways while Feagen did the defensive work but it take away from his offense .
Waters lost his touch and it drastically made others step forward - Waters went from over 43% on threes to closer to 33 % or lower in his final games - so Butler and others tried to do more then expected - especially Parrish
Getting a high quality PG may not be that easy as some might think or SDSU might get a shorter one that also causes problems on defense when you do not have a Mensah there to help on defense
Correct SDSU has little chance of getting one if Butler says he is coming back - so not the easiest of decisions for Dutcher
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Post by AzTex on Apr 7, 2024 16:05:12 GMT -8
As far as I'm concerned, Butler made "The Shot" so he gets to do what ever he likes regarding his future with the Aztecs. I'll support his decision regardless.
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Post by jp92grad on Apr 7, 2024 16:45:57 GMT -8
As far as I'm concerned, Butler made "The Shot" so he gets to do what ever he likes regarding his future with the Aztecs. I'll support his decision regardless. The bigger concern is making a decision sooner rather than later, no issues either way with Butler (he has earned it) This coaching staff needs to be able to go after the transfer portal while the going is good. The sooner they can know what their needs are for next season the better. The portal is overflowing with players right now! ! ! ---The needs are for someone who can play the 5, someone who can shoot the ball and a True PG (said in my best Stan Voice) |
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Post by Gundo on Apr 7, 2024 17:30:23 GMT -8
As far as I'm concerned, Butler made "The Shot" so he gets to do what ever he likes regarding his future with the Aztecs. I'll support his decision regardless. The bigger concern is making a decision sooner rather than later, no issues either way with Butler (he has earned it) This coaching staff needs to be able to go after the transfer portal while the going is good. The sooner they can know what their needs are for next season the better. The portal is overflowing with players right now! ! ! ---The needs are for someone who can play the 5, someone who can shoot the ball, and a True PG (said in my best Stan Voice) Players still have the opportunity to utilize the portal until the end of May. Currently, there are over 1,450 Division 1 transfers and 900 Division 2 transfers. I anticipate an additional 500 to 600 Division 1 players may join. However, it's important to note that we are currently involved in a fundraiser to reach $300k in new NIL donations, which will be matched. Therefore, we have some flexibility in terms of timing. Furthermore, we are awaiting feedback from Butler, Parrish, Waters, and possibly Demarshy or others regarding their plans to either stay or leave. Butler has entered his name in the NBA Draft, and I wouldn't be surprised if Waters follows suit, seeking feedback on his game and pursuing his dream. Parrish's return appears to be less likely, but nothing has been confirmed, so we wait, speculate, and wait. |
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Post by 84aztec96 on Apr 7, 2024 17:48:19 GMT -8
We are a lot better team if all three players come back. Losing Butler would hurt a lot.
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Post by jp92grad on Apr 7, 2024 19:08:30 GMT -8
The bigger concern is making a decision sooner rather than later, no issues either way with Butler (he has earned it) This coaching staff needs to be able to go after the transfer portal while the going is good. The sooner they can know what their needs are for next season the better. The portal is overflowing with players right now! ! ! ---The needs are for someone who can play the 5, someone who can shoot the ball, and a True PG (said in my best Stan Voice) Players still have the opportunity to utilize the portal until the end of May. Currently, there are over 1,450 Division 1 transfers and 900 Division 2 transfers. I anticipate an additional 500 to 600 Division 1 players may join. However, it's important to note that we are currently involved in a fundraiser to reach $300k in new NIL donations, which will be matched. Therefore, we have some flexibility in terms of timing. Furthermore, we are awaiting feedback from Butler, Parrish, Waters, and possibly Demarshy or others regarding their plans to either stay or leave. Butler has entered his name in the NBA Draft, and I wouldn't be surprised if Waters follows suit, seeking feedback on his game and pursuing his dream. Parrish's return appears to be less likely, but nothing has been confirmed, so we wait, speculate, and wait. The better players are going to be going much sooner then others and SDSU is not really concerned with over 99% of the players that are in the Portal. I would think that once Coach Dutcher gets back from all the MM and Final Four stuff he will be looking at the Exit Type end of year stuff and put a plan together. The plan for Butler should be a quick one, he really seems to be a stand up guy and has a great relationship with Coach Dutcher and they have already been though this exact thing last year, so I am pretty sure they already have an idea of how to handle this. The decision on Waters, Parrish, Demarshy and even Alger need to be addressed, because if these three or four players all come back next year this program will be in trouble! The production this season from LeDee some how needs to be replaced next season. Without replacing these players, where is all the scoring and rebounding going to come from as of right now? The Core of next years team right now is: Saunders- Needs to make a big step up in his entire game. Byrd- Has the abilities but can he put it all together? Heide- Needs to add size if he is to play the 5 and needs much more game time. add-in Butler and Waters and you still have needs * the 3 new freshmen should not be expected for much production next year and (you can add Davis into that group) ---The way things are looking they should have at a minimum 3-4 opening to get players in the portal. |
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Post by standiego on Apr 7, 2024 21:35:14 GMT -8
2024-25 roster
1 Bryd - 2 Saunders 3 Heide -4 BJ Davis - 5 Red Shirt MG - 6-7-8 the incoming HS players - 9-10- 11 Waters - Butler - and Parrish ( TBD ) 12 Cade Alger ( does he have eligibility or walk on ? ) 13 Shay Johnson - ( is he asked to leave or stay )
So to add players from the Portal at least Alger and Shay would have to leave and/ or Parrish - Butler - or Waters
Alger could be a senior so that means 1 additional scholarship - Shay Johnson what do the coaches suggest to him ?
Waters has said that if he comes back to college it would be at SDSU - is that correct
Parrish - most reports are 75/25 that he enters the Portal - what does he want to do
Butler - as we have been talking about what does he want to do
Agree Lamont is a player that will be considered the hero for last season and will be remembered for ever but think he does need to assist Dutcher and make some decisions
He has stated he wants another NBA evaluation - fine he and any other player can also - but he also needs to let Dutcher know - If he does want to play college ball next season does he want it to be at SDSU or go the route that Keshad did - enter the transfer portal
Think it would be considerate if the guys that are undecided make their decisions as soon as possible to assist themselves and the SDSU Program -
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Post by standiego on Apr 7, 2024 21:52:38 GMT -8
If Butler leaves that would leave SDSU with very little true game time experience other then Waters If he does come back
Yes that would mean there will be a drastic need for a PG with a lot of experience and how much NIL money
Also an experienced player at the 5 is a major hole that needs to filled no matter what Butler does
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