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Post by aztecnails on Mar 23, 2024 9:08:04 GMT -8
This is about Aztecs opponents in conference. If the MWC expands, stays the same or loses schools, Grand Canyon tops my list of schools to join (men's and women's basketball is one reason) despite GCU not having a football team. GCU president says adding football would take away from the other school sports. Playing Grand Canyon twice a year is an upgrade in SDSU'S strength of schedule for men's basketball.
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Post by smoothcat on Mar 23, 2024 9:22:52 GMT -8
This is about Aztecs opponents in conference. If the MWC expands, stays the same or loses schools, Grand Canyon tops my list of schools to join (men's and women's basketball is one reason) despite GCU not having a football team. GCU president says adding football would take away from the other school sports. Playing Grand Canyon twice a year is an upgrade in SDSU'S strength of schedule for men's basketball. Grand Canyon has done a fantastic job building their program, they have supplanted ASU as the second best basketball team in Arizona. They have a great crowd too, kind of reminds me of how the legendary Steve Fisher removed our program from the dark abyss. |
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Post by sdaztec4life on Mar 23, 2024 9:47:27 GMT -8
The GCU game last night against St. Mary’s had a huge contingent of students there as they did in the WAC tourney in Vegas last week. There is no doubt that they have incredible student fan support. Im curious if someone paid the way for their students to go the the tournament games. I didn’t see a section of the “Show” at Spokane.
I know Jerry Colangelo became involved with
GCU in as a board member. He has taken on the name of the Colangelo School of Sports Business, and is was a consultant in GCU transition to NCAA Division I sports. Maybe he also helped with NIL in getting good players there.
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Post by mauiwowie on Mar 23, 2024 9:57:51 GMT -8
GCU’s student support is a mirage. All students that live in dorms on campus are required to attend Men’s Basketball home games. The graduate programs there are part of a separate, for profit University, even though they converted portions of their undergraduate school to non-profit in order to be accepted into the NCAA for athletics. I’m sure their NIL programs are well-funded, and operate just inside the NCAA rules system.
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Mar 23, 2024 10:24:43 GMT -8
GCU looked very good in that game yesterday. I wasn't able to see our game against them earlier this year, but GCU did not look like a fluke at all and was the better team against St. Mary's. They have long, athletic, and skilled guys
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Post by mactec on Mar 23, 2024 11:04:17 GMT -8
A religious, for profit university absolutely does not belong in our conference. We shouldn't even be scheduling these guys. Don't support these scammy schools that take advantage of students so their shareholders can make $$$.
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Mar 23, 2024 11:21:54 GMT -8
Wasn't the NFL labeled a "non-profit" until just a few years ago? There are tons of "non-profits" that scam students/customers as well. Students can make the decision to go there or not, nobody is forcing them. If it was a scam where students didn't get a good education, then people would choose not to go there. BTW there are tons of college students who go to Berkeley and major in Art History who can't get a job after college. Would you consider that a scam as well, or is it the student's fault
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Post by aztech on Mar 23, 2024 11:38:32 GMT -8
Wasn't the NFL labeled a "non-profit" until just a few years ago? There are tons of "non-profits" that scam students/customers as well. Students can make the decision to go there or not, nobody is forcing them. If it was a scam where students didn't get a good education, then people would choose not to go there. BTW there are tons of college students who go to Berkeley and major in Art History who can't get a job after college. Would you consider that a scam as well, or is it the student's fault Really? I don't know where that rumor came from. If they can't get a job in their field, they can land a job offering decent pay. Why? Because they're intelligent. |
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Post by aztecnails on Mar 23, 2024 11:38:47 GMT -8
A religious, for profit university absolutely does not belong in our conference. We shouldn't even be scheduling these guys. Don't support these scammy schools that take advantage of students so their shareholders can make $$$. Thank goodness you are not the Athletic Director. Games (YBU, Grand Canyon, Saint Mary's and Gonzaga all NCAA tournament teams this year) against religious schools even in a loss are why SDSU is a 5 seed in this year's NCAA tournament. Also to you, games against USD, Notre Dame and Point Loma are not scheduled. All colleges try to make money for shareholders. Playing Grand Canyon 1-2 times improves the Aztecs strength of schedule. Top schools like SDSU are striving for is to take on all challenges religious schools or not. 63,000 fans who disagree packed our stadium to watch Notre-Dame play Navy in football. |
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Post by aztecbb on Mar 23, 2024 12:39:44 GMT -8
GCU is a perfect NON_CONF opponent - home and home or even 2 for 1.
NCAA has made it clear you will be rewarded for playing a strong OCC.
Conf additions are made by Presidents however , not ADs ,and GCU will never be in the MWC due to academics.
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Post by AzTex on Mar 23, 2024 13:44:52 GMT -8
GCU’s student support is a mirage. All students that live in dorms on campus are required to attend Men’s Basketball home games. The graduate programs there are part of a separate, for profit University, even though they converted portions of their undergraduate school to non-profit in order to be accepted into the NCAA for athletics. I’m sure their NIL programs are well-funded, and operate just inside the NCAA rules system. I'm not saying you're wrong but I haven't been able to find a source to confirm that statement, please provide a link. But even if that is true, the GCU administration can't make that student section be as loud and crazy as they are. Their students strongly support the basketball program. |
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Post by longtimebooster on Mar 23, 2024 14:53:07 GMT -8
Wasn't the NFL labeled a "non-profit" until just a few years ago? There are tons of "non-profits" that scam students/customers as well. Students can make the decision to go there or not, nobody is forcing them. If it was a scam where students didn't get a good education, then people would choose not to go there. BTW there are tons of college students who go to Berkeley and major in Art History who can't get a job after college. Would you consider that a scam as well, or is it the student's fault Really? I don't know where that rumor came from. If they can't get a job in their field, they can land a job offering decent pay. Why? Because they're intelligent. My cousin’s wife graduated with a PhD in Art History from Cal. She got a job as an Art History professor at USF. Makes about $170k/yr with full benefits. Makes another $100k/yr consulting for several Bay Area private wealth family entities on art selection/investment. Makes about another $100k/yr taking private groups on European art tours. And she’s published four books and receives regular royalty checks. She makes more than my cousin, who got a computer science degree from Cal and works for a major tech firm. |
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Post by docmm on Mar 23, 2024 15:04:21 GMT -8
Really? I don't know where that rumor came from. If they can't get a job in their field, they can land a job offering decent pay. Why? Because they're intelligent. My cousin’s wife graduated with a PhD in Art History from Cal. She got a job as an Art History professor at USF. Makes about $170k/yr with full benefits. Makes another $100k/yr consulting for several Bay Area private wealth family entities on art selection/investment. Makes about another $100k/yr taking private groups on European art tours. And she’s published four books and receives regular royalty checks. She makes more than my cousin, who got a computer science degree from Cal and works for a major tech firm. My daughter has an Art History Degree from Berkeley and has been working at Google for 11 years and is now in management making low mid-6 figures. |
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Post by chris92065 on Mar 23, 2024 15:06:01 GMT -8
Really? I don't know where that rumor came from. If they can't get a job in their field, they can land a job offering decent pay. Why? Because they're intelligent. My cousin’s wife graduated with a PhD in Art History from Cal. She got a job as an Art History professor at USF. Makes about $170k/yr with full benefits. Makes another $100k/yr consulting for several Bay Area private wealth family entities on art selection/investment. Makes about another $100k/yr taking private groups on European art tours. And she’s published four books and receives regular royalty checks. She makes more than my cousin, who got a computer science degree from Cal and works for a major tech firm. Your cousins wife is to art teachers what Warren buffet is stock market investors. Top of the charts. |
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Post by zbt69 on Mar 23, 2024 15:10:59 GMT -8
I say no to GCU I don't think we should even be playing them as a non conference team.
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Post by Trujillos & Beer on Mar 23, 2024 15:24:34 GMT -8
If the MWC is going after a non-football member it should be Gonzaga, not GCU. Outside of the Zags this conference definitely doesn't need another mouth to feed. The best option is the top six schools in the MWC moves to 2pac and leaves the dregs behind. Then the MWC can add GCU or whoever since none of us will care.
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Post by aztecking on Mar 23, 2024 15:25:32 GMT -8
GCU’s student support is a mirage. All students that live in dorms on campus are required to attend Men’s Basketball home games. The graduate programs there are part of a separate, for profit University, even though they converted portions of their undergraduate school to non-profit in order to be accepted into the NCAA for athletics. I’m sure their NIL programs are well-funded, and operate just inside the NCAA rules system. I'm not saying you're wrong but I haven't been able to find a source to confirm that statement, please provide a link. But even if that is true the GCU administration can't make that student section be as loud and crazy as they are. Their students strongly support the basketball program. Well if they are being forced to go it seems like you’d enjoy your time a lot more if you were into the game rather than just sitting there disinterested. |
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Post by sdaztec4life on Mar 23, 2024 15:36:39 GMT -8
GCU’s student support is a mirage. All students that live in dorms on campus are required to attend Men’s Basketball home games. The graduate programs there are part of a separate, for profit University, even though they converted portions of their undergraduate school to non-profit in order to be accepted into the NCAA for athletics. I’m sure their NIL programs are well-funded, and operate just inside the NCAA rules system. So if they are "required" to attend the games, is the school paying those students to travel to Vegas for their tournament, or paying for their travel and stay in Spokane to cheer for the Lopes? They have a whole section filled with students, not just a few rows. I find that hard to believe that they are "required" to go to road games. What happens if they don't go to the home games? |
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Mar 23, 2024 15:43:26 GMT -8
Wasn't the NFL labeled a "non-profit" until just a few years ago? There are tons of "non-profits" that scam students/customers as well. Students can make the decision to go there or not, nobody is forcing them. If it was a scam where students didn't get a good education, then people would choose not to go there. BTW there are tons of college students who go to Berkeley and major in Art History who can't get a job after college. Would you consider that a scam as well, or is it the student's fault Really? I don't know where that rumor came from. If they can't get a job in their field, they can land a job offering decent pay. Why? Because they're intelligent. Yes I know one of them. You're really not aware of the growing issue of people going to college and drowning in student debt only to make 40k when they graduate? Often it's their own fault for majoring in unproductive majors though |
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Post by sleepy on Mar 23, 2024 15:47:23 GMT -8
If we were to leave the MWC for something else, then I would agree that the MWC adding GC"U" would be a nice addition. For GC"U".
But to have our school pull their bootstraps up academically these past two decades and then agree to have that rent-a-diploma monument to grift and Arizona simpleton-ism be associated with us...
Hard pass. We're good.
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