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Post by aztecryan on Jan 26, 2024 13:45:47 GMT -8
Or, just slightly more votes than Joe Biden received in the 2020 election.
$83.3M in damages awarded to E. Jean Carroll in her defamation suit against the former president.
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Jan 26, 2024 14:14:09 GMT -8
Even I fainted...and don't owe anyone anything...MAGA will bail him out...he's the best qualified candidate.....
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Jan 26, 2024 14:42:47 GMT -8
Even I fainted...and don't owe anyone anything...MAGA will bail him out...he's the best qualified candidate..... O.K. good luck with that. Donato Trumpolini may not have: "been born under a bad sign" but he's waking up under one or more. It's O.K. it's only money. |
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Post by azson on Jan 26, 2024 15:28:52 GMT -8
Meanwhile Wm's still waiting to "hear" from a jury...
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Post by uwphoto on Jan 26, 2024 15:32:52 GMT -8
I think he's still angling for the women's vote.
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 28, 2024 13:00:50 GMT -8
Trump defamed Carroll (again) by republishing a Breitbart article questioning her case against him. Just can't stand prosperity (or lack thereof?)
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Post by aztecmusician on Jan 28, 2024 14:40:50 GMT -8
$83 million? Ouch!
An unprecedented award, which will probably be appealed.
Like every other Democratic presidential roadblock, this will rally Trump’s support even more.
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Post by North County Aztec on Jan 28, 2024 14:45:41 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 28, 2024 15:56:44 GMT -8
$83 million? Ouch! An unprecedented award, which will probably be appealed. Like every other Democratic presidential roadblock, this will rally Trump’s support even more. No, it won't. Ask a woman, if you know one. Most women don't appreciate sexual assault, nor the removal of their bodily autonomy, which Trump took personal credit for. A neutral candidate would be favored over Biden (likely significantly) due to the optics of his age. The verdict has already been appealed, but the amount will hold up. Ironically, Trump inflating his own assets makes it a hard argument to sustain, as does the numerous violations and instances of defamation. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 28, 2024 16:01:20 GMT -8
The (minor) market shift has nothing to do with the Carroll case at all. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 28, 2024 16:21:16 GMT -8
Trump was -235 marketwide on November 3rd, 2020 and everyone saw how that turned out. Important note: No domestic sportsbooks offer odds on presidential elections, so all the money comes from Europe and the offshore markets. The volatility will be extreme in the coming months, but Biden being +200 or better is hilarious, given Trump's legal battles.
Long, long way to go.
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Post by North County Aztec on Jan 28, 2024 17:06:53 GMT -8
$83 million? Ouch! An unprecedented award, which will probably be appealed. Like every other Democratic presidential roadblock, this will rally Trump’s support even more. No, it won't. Ask a woman, if you know one. Most women don't appreciate sexual assault, nor the removal of their bodily autonomy, which Trump took personal credit for. A neutral candidate would be favored over Biden (likely significantly) due to the optics of his age. The verdict has already been appealed, but the amount will hold up. Ironically, Trump inflating his own assets makes it a hard argument to sustain, as does the numerous violations and instances of defamation. Have you ever looked up or cared what Joey did? The woman had to leave the country. He also damaged his daughter for life. And have some empathy for all the little girls he's sniffed. There's videos, 100's of videos. One recent video the little girl screamed in fear. This is more than a minor shift. Joey has been trailing for weeks on betting odds. I'm not taking sides, why can't you see facts? That's all I'm suggesting. Joey has hit bottom, so he'll set a new bottom. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 28, 2024 17:29:04 GMT -8
No, it won't. Ask a woman, if you know one. Most women don't appreciate sexual assault, nor the removal of their bodily autonomy, which Trump took personal credit for. A neutral candidate would be favored over Biden (likely significantly) due to the optics of his age. The verdict has already been appealed, but the amount will hold up. Ironically, Trump inflating his own assets makes it a hard argument to sustain, as does the numerous violations and instances of defamation. Have you ever looked up or cared what Joey did? The woman had to leave the country. He also damaged his daughter for life. And have some empathy for all the little girls he's sniffed. There's videos, 100's of videos. One recent video the little girl screamed in fear. This is more than a minor shift. Joey has been trailing for weeks on betting odds. I'm not taking sides, why can't you see facts? That's all I'm suggesting. Joey has hit bottom, so he'll set a new bottom. Tara Reade? She defected to Russia and is applying for Russian citizenship. I must have missed where a jury found her allegations credible enough to award punitive damages? (This is what's known as a false equivalence, for those scoring at home.) Facts, damned facts. With the lack of liquidity in the US market, the odds are going to shift more frequently and with more volatility, you're utilizing one site with less than a half dozen markets. And it's painfully obvious what side you're on, we don't need to engage in theatrics. Leaving aside the fact that odds mean nothing this far out, as evidenced by 2020, color me unimpressed with trouncing a pathetic field of candidates with a quasi-incumbent advantage. The numbers in New Hampshire weren't good, the legal challenges are just getting started and the optics will get worse as time goes. The market got Biden wrong in 2020, it'll be wrong again here. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jan 28, 2024 19:00:33 GMT -8
Trump was -235 marketwide on November 3rd, 2020 and everyone saw how that turned out. Important note: No domestic sportsbooks offer odds on presidential elections, so all the money comes from Europe and the offshore markets. The volatility will be extreme in the coming months, but Biden being +200 or better is hilarious, given Trump's legal battles. Long, long way to go. So you're saying to jump on the Biden +200? |
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Post by johneaztec on Jan 28, 2024 19:11:43 GMT -8
Trump was -235 marketwide on November 3rd, 2020 and everyone saw how that turned out. Important note: No domestic sportsbooks offer odds on presidential elections, so all the money comes from Europe and the offshore markets. The volatility will be extreme in the coming months, but Biden being +200 or better is hilarious, given Trump's legal battles. Long, long way to go. An article in USA Today on November 2, 2020 said that offshore sports books had Biden at any where from -188 to -220 at least and that's right before the election. Biden was favored according to sports books, including Draft kings offshore book in Ireland. MANY Americans vote offshore. So, I don't know how unreliable they are, as you're suggesting. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 28, 2024 20:17:08 GMT -8
Trump was -235 marketwide on November 3rd, 2020 and everyone saw how that turned out. Important note: No domestic sportsbooks offer odds on presidential elections, so all the money comes from Europe and the offshore markets. The volatility will be extreme in the coming months, but Biden being +200 or better is hilarious, given Trump's legal battles. Long, long way to go. So you're saying to jump on the Biden +200? Any plus money on Biden *right now* is fine, given what we know. He's consistently undervalued in the market and it's a binary choice, so you're getting even more value built-in to the number. Trump is being valued right now because he crushed Iowa and because there's no candidate in the GOP atmosphere to build a challenge against him. The market overrates his base, like I've said many times. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 28, 2024 20:18:41 GMT -8
Trump was -235 marketwide on November 3rd, 2020 and everyone saw how that turned out. Important note: No domestic sportsbooks offer odds on presidential elections, so all the money comes from Europe and the offshore markets. The volatility will be extreme in the coming months, but Biden being +200 or better is hilarious, given Trump's legal battles. Long, long way to go. An article in USA Today on November 2, 2020 said that offshore sports books had Biden at any where from -188 to -220 at least and that's right before the election. Biden was favored according to sports books, including Draft kings offshore book in Ireland. MANY Americans vote offshore. So, I don't know how unreliable they are, as you're suggesting. Literally flipped less than 24 hours later. www.forbes.com/sites/zackjones/2020/11/03/donald-trump-now-betting-favorite-to-win-2020-presidential-election-biden-odds-falls-to-185-as-betting-lines-flip/?sh=747374f31b2dTrump was -600 at one point on the evening of the 3rd....and less than 15 minutes later was back to -230. I bet sports daily, so I understand betting markets pretty well. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jan 28, 2024 20:53:00 GMT -8
So you're saying to jump on the Biden +200? Any plus money on Biden *right now* is fine, given what we know. He's consistently undervalued in the market and it's a binary choice, so you're getting even more value built-in to the number. Trump is being valued right now because he crushed Iowa and because there's no candidate in the GOP atmosphere to build a challenge against him. The market overrates his base, like I've said many times. I can see the market over valuing his base, but didn't they learn anything from last election if Trump ultimately was favored? Or, has Biden been so bad, or too old, or not with it enough, or all of the above that the market thinks it's a no brainer that Trump wins? I do get that things can change on a dime since Trump is going to go through tough situations coming up. Maybe that's it. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jan 28, 2024 20:57:14 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 28, 2024 21:26:38 GMT -8
Any plus money on Biden *right now* is fine, given what we know. He's consistently undervalued in the market and it's a binary choice, so you're getting even more value built-in to the number. Trump is being valued right now because he crushed Iowa and because there's no candidate in the GOP atmosphere to build a challenge against him. The market overrates his base, like I've said many times. I can see the market over valuing his base, but didn't they learn anything from last election if Trump ultimately was favored? Or, has Biden been so bad, or too old, or not with it enough, or all of the above that the market thinks it's a no brainer that Trump wins? I do get that things can change on a dime since Trump is going to go through tough situations coming up. Maybe that's it. Trump wasn't favored to win the election on election day, Biden was. www.google.com/amp/s/fortune.com/2020/11/19/betting-gambling-prediction-markets-2020-election-polls/amp/The odds will change many, many times before a vote is decided. |
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