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Post by johneaztec on Dec 30, 2023 14:46:40 GMT -8
Well, you said that it would OBVIOUSLY be overturned, not just likely overturned, and that the SCOTUS would not want to break new ground. Are you changing your tune because more states are getting involved? Why would that influence the SCOTUS to not worry about "breaking new ground" anymore? As usual, you're reading way too much into things. The emphasis is yours, not mine, to be crystal clear. And yes, things can and will change rapidly. Since I said what I said, we've had at least two other states make rulings on Trump's eligibility *and* we have new evidence coming to light in the immunity trial in the DC Circuit, which directly influences this ruling. Note the specificity of the examples utilized in this brief. Those aren't random, they aren't innocuous, they aren't benign. Why would more states getting involved to remove Trump from eligibility matter? Um, well, the more states that get involved to eliminate him from the presidency puts more pressure on SCOTUS to issue a ruling more expediently. What's crystal clear is the word "obviously." That's what you said, and as usual, you downplay it to fit your changing of tune. Maybe don't be so certain with issues that can be fluid, and stop using absolutes like the word "obviously." We'll see if more states decide to rule against his eligibility, the more likely they won't overturn the decisions because of pressure. They would still be setting a precedent that they really don't want to.
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 30, 2023 14:59:51 GMT -8
As usual, you're reading way too much into things. The emphasis is yours, not mine, to be crystal clear. And yes, things can and will change rapidly. Since I said what I said, we've had at least two other states make rulings on Trump's eligibility *and* we have new evidence coming to light in the immunity trial in the DC Circuit, which directly influences this ruling. Note the specificity of the examples utilized in this brief. Those aren't random, they aren't innocuous, they aren't benign. Why would more states getting involved to remove Trump from eligibility matter? Um, well, the more states that get involved to eliminate him from the presidency puts more pressure on SCOTUS to issue a ruling more expediently. What's crystal clear is the word "obviously." That's what you said, and as usual, you downplay it to fit your changing of tune. Maybe don't be so certain with issues that can be fluid, and stop using absolutes like the word "obviously." We'll see if more states decide to rule against his eligibility, the more likely they won't overturn the decisions because of pressure. They would still be setting a precedent that they really don't want to. As I said, the emphasis is yours, not mine. Obviously ≠ OBVIOUSLY like you tend to throw around for extreme emphasis and grandiosity. It's not meant to be taken quite as literally as you want to, Jedi Mind Trapper. I believed it was obvious at that point, considering the optics of the situation and the climate in Colorado. Situations have changed dramatically since then. It's alright for things to evolve and new information to come to light. You don't need to police every situation, thankfully. Also, I don't agree with your interpretation of their potential ruling, either. Again, let's talk magnitude. If they AGREE and uphold the rulings in Colorado, Maine and elsewhere it sets the historical precedent of "A body can remove a presidential candidate they deem unfit for office without a criminal charge being present (which is how the Amendment reads, predominantly) - That will change the structure and significance of the Court dramatically, angering GOP hard-liners. If they overturn the rulings and rule Trump CAN appear on the general election ballot, granting him immunity from crimes in office, it means Biden cannot be prosecuted for any of his alleged criminal enterprising, either. It would also mean that there's no singular standard where we can hold a president accountable for violating the rule of law while serving their country. It's a lot.
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 30, 2023 15:45:25 GMT -8
As I said, read it again. There is no requirement for a conviction, nor is there a requirement for a charge to be levied against him. Two different courts in Colorado found the evidence met the bar for insurrection, which is plainly obvious if you read the text of the 14th Amendment. Trump's actions before, on and after January 6th are the literal definition of what the 14th Amendment was designed to prohibit. Section 3 isn't broad at all: "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability." Not only did Trump engage in the incitement of the insurrection, he gave aid to those who attempted to overturn the results of the election itself, in multiple capacities. The 39th Congress established the presidency as an "officer of the United States" - Clearing that hurdle, as well. Ironically, one of Trump's legal arguments in his filings is that his oath of office was NOT to support the Constitution. Even you can see how much of a farce that is, surely. The only thing that doesn't exist is common sense in your MAGA-filled brain that absorbs propaganda as gospel. You've been spoonfed nonsense for years, refusing to fact check basic laws and provisions. *IF* the Supreme Court overturns this based on partisan votes, it's a permanent stain on the legitimacy, impartiality and establishment of justice under the law in this country. The Court would be a laughingstock for the rest of time. You are using a very partisan and broad left wing interpretation, looking to throw the entire library of congress at the January 6th people. If it were Democrats who did this, the issue would have been forgotten by January 10th. In the end it will come down to the Supreme Court. Biden’s impeachment will come down to the hyper partisan Congress. Three simple questions that don't require critical thinking: 1. Were the events of January 6th an insurrection? 2. Did Donald Trump incite that insurrection? 3. With Trump himself having acknowledged that he lost the election, were the events of January 6th part of Trump's "official duties" as president?
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Post by aztecmusician on Dec 30, 2023 19:48:38 GMT -8
You are using a very partisan and broad left wing interpretation, looking to throw the entire library of congress at the January 6th people. If it were Democrats who did this, the issue would have been forgotten by January 10th. In the end it will come down to the Supreme Court. Biden’s impeachment will come down to the hyper partisan Congress. Three simple questions that don't require critical thinking: 1. Were the events of January 6th an insurrection? 2. Did Donald Trump incite that insurrection? 3. With Trump himself having acknowledged that he lost the election, were the events of January 6th part of Trump's "official duties" as president? 1. No. It was a political demonstration which got out of hand. Something the ultra destructive democrats did on a daily basis in the summer of 2020. 2. No. I don’t believe he did. This will be decided in a court of law. 3. There were numerous irregularities in this election. If President Trump felt that the vote counts were somehow rigged, it would be his duty or any president’s duty to investigate. I have to give the Biden people credit. They pulled off a surprising victory in 2020. Trump claims electoral fraud and honestly there are several unresolved issues. The bottom line is the 2020 Trump campaign was outmaneuvered by the more Machiavellian Democrats while the mainstream media provided a convincing smoke screen cover. The overall perception 3 years later from many undecided voters is there were multiple cases of fraud by the Democrats.
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Dec 30, 2023 20:38:57 GMT -8
Wow, put down the pipe.
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 30, 2023 20:52:47 GMT -8
Three simple questions that don't require critical thinking: 1. Were the events of January 6th an insurrection? 2. Did Donald Trump incite that insurrection? 3. With Trump himself having acknowledged that he lost the election, were the events of January 6th part of Trump's "official duties" as president? 1. No. It was a political demonstration which got out of hand. Something the ultra destructive democrats did on a daily basis in the summer of 2020. 2. No. I don’t believe he did. This will be decided in a court of law. 3. There were numerous irregularities in this election. If President Trump felt that the vote counts were somehow rigged, it would be his duty or any president’s duty to investigate. I have to give the Biden people credit. They pulled off a surprising victory in 2020. Trump claims electoral fraud and honestly there are several unresolved issues. The bottom line is the 2020 Trump campaign was outmaneuvered by the more Machiavellian Democrats while the mainstream media provided a convincing smoke screen cover. The overall perception 3 years later from many undecided voters is there were multiple cases of fraud by the Democrats. A political demonstration that got out of hand....wow. I'm glad I can't walk, or I'd have to sit down. So the insurrectionists weren't there to delay/obstruct the certification of ballots? They weren't there to threaten/intimidate/attack members of Congress? Well, that's just false. apnews.com/article/capitol-riot-pelosi-death-threat-pauline-bauer-18673508efe43ac9e70c3e47cb840d6bThey brought a literal gallows to try and hang Mike Pence. I mean...enough said. You keep using the same false equivalence of the summer of 2020 - Doesn't hold any water then, now, tomorrow or ten years from now. An insurrection is an attack against an authority or body of government, not an attack against a Chase Bank. Major L. Yes, Trump's involvement will be decided in a court of law. Spoiler: He's cooked. Once SCOTUS removes the notion of presidential immunity, he's going to prison. There were no irregularities in the 2020 election, outside of fraud committed by Republican voters. Trump-appointed judges came to that conclusion, repeatedly, over and over again. 60+ times. Nothing. A surprising victory? Seven million votes. Surprise! You're out of your mind, man. Please seek help.
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 31, 2023 10:35:08 GMT -8
To counter the unserious notion that this was a "political demonstration" that "got out of hand."
Newly obtained recordings and emails show how Trump campaign personnel flew fake elector ballots from Michigan and Wisconsin to Washington just two days before January 6th, in another failed attempt to disrupt the certification of votes. What you actually saw was a multi-month, orchestrated and complex plan to overturn the results of the election that will get a whole host of people in legal hot water.
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 31, 2023 10:47:35 GMT -8
Lifelong Republican former judge (appointed by H.W. Bush and assistant AG on presidential immunity.
What he states here is the point: Disqualifying Trump isn't anti-democratic, rather it's Trump's conduct leading to disqualification that is truly anti-democratic.
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Post by aztecmusician on Dec 31, 2023 11:11:04 GMT -8
Lifelong Republican former judge (appointed by H.W. Bush and assistant AG on presidential immunity. What he states here is the point: Disqualifying Trump isn't anti-democratic, rather it's Trump's conduct leading to disqualification that is truly anti-democratic. It seems as if this is the only thing the Democrats have to run on. Pretty much everything else Biden has touched has been a diaper dumpster fire, so good luck with your one issue. In the elections of 20 & 22 the Democrats very subtly harvested and manipulated social media to skew those election results. This time around their efforts to sabotage Trump have become more brazen, looking to use a weak technicality to keep him off the ballot. This is authentic banana republic despotism right in front of our eyes. The democrats who support these shenanigans are pond scum. These people aren’t stupid. They know a 1980 like result is coming ready to wash the White House clean of WOKEISH GREEN. www.cbsnews.com/news/colorado-republican-party-appeal-u-s-supreme-court-trump-ballot-ban/
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 31, 2023 11:34:05 GMT -8
Lifelong Republican former judge (appointed by H.W. Bush and assistant AG on presidential immunity. What he states here is the point: Disqualifying Trump isn't anti-democratic, rather it's Trump's conduct leading to disqualification that is truly anti-democratic. It seems as if this is the only thing the Democrats have to run on. Pretty much everything else Biden has touched has been a diaper dumpster fire, so good luck with your one issue. In the elections of 20 & 22 the Democrats very subtly harvested and manipulated social media to skew those election results. This time around their efforts to sabotage Trump have become more brazen, looking to use a weak technicality to keep him off the ballot. This is authentic banana republic despotism right in front of our eyes. The democrats who support these shenanigans are pond scum. These people aren’t stupid. They know a 1980 like result is coming ready to wash the White House clean of WOKEISH GREEN. www.cbsnews.com/news/colorado-republican-party-appeal-u-s-supreme-court-trump-ballot-ban/As much as I want to try and debate, you live in an alternate universe where facts don't matter, accomplishments are meaningless, agendas are prevalent and false worship reigns supreme. The same talking points you railed on over and over, congratulating Trump on? Biden's just been better. Point blank. Not much else to it. There is no "weak technicality." Virtually nothing disqualifies a person from the presidency, outside of the laws the Constitution provides for. The 14th Amendment is clear. You can literally be a convicted felon and still qualify to be president. Hell, you can govern the country from prison! So, back on Earth, please spare me the nonsensical jargon. Not interested. Another point blank question: You want Joe Biden impeached and arrested. Well, if the Supreme Court decides Trump is immune from prosecution, the same rules apply to Biden. Still interested? And to short-circuit your response, Trump isn't winning the election, so are you prepared for four more years?
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Post by aztecmusician on Dec 31, 2023 14:37:06 GMT -8
Yes, this is the single issue the Democrats are going with, they have very few Biden successes and the polls reflect that. Removing Trump from the ballot is their surest remedy.
We shall see what happens with Biden. I think the influence peddling and corruption evidence is pretty cut and dry. The Democrats will circle the wagons. You will notice the mainstream media isn’t covering the Biden impeachment, a coverup compared to the phony Trump impeachment, which was gavel to gavel. Senator Menendez and his wholesale corruption, all but ignored. Does MSNBC highlight or lede the intellectual lightweight/habitual plagiarist president of Harvard?
Democrats just love power and disregard all ethics to maintain their positions. Of course they are going scorched earth to prevent Trump from regaining the White House, threatens their power base and ability to fleece. Just like 2020, the Dems will pull out all the stops. They will even boot Biden off the ticket if he doesn’t close the gap enough for their vote shuffling schemes to be effective.
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 31, 2023 14:44:33 GMT -8
Yes, this is the single issue the Democrats are going with, they have very few Biden successes and the polls reflect that. Removing Trump from the ballot is their surest remedy. We shall see what happens with Biden. I think the influence peddling and corruption evidence is pretty cut and dry. The Democrats will circle the wagons. You will notice the mainstream media isn’t covering the Biden impeachment, a coverup compared to the phony Trump impeachment, which was gavel to gavel. Senator Menendez and his wholesale corruption, all but ignored. Does MSNBC highlight or lede the intellectual lightweight/habitual plagiarist president of Harvard? Democrats just love power and disregard all ethics to maintain their positions. Of course they are going scorched earth to prevent Trump from regaining the White House, threatens their power base and ability to fleece. Just like 2020, the Dems will pull out all the stops. They will even boot Biden off the ticket if he doesn’t close the gap enough for their vote shuffling schemes to be effective. When it comes out Donald Trump sold out our country, what's your reaction going to be? Applause? Indifference?
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 31, 2023 14:56:21 GMT -8
Yes, this is the single issue the Democrats are going with, they have very few Biden successes and the polls reflect that. Removing Trump from the ballot is their surest remedy. We shall see what happens with Biden. I think the influence peddling and corruption evidence is pretty cut and dry. The Democrats will circle the wagons. You will notice the mainstream media isn’t covering the Biden impeachment, a coverup compared to the phony Trump impeachment, which was gavel to gavel. Senator Menendez and his wholesale corruption, all but ignored. Does MSNBC highlight or lede the intellectual lightweight/habitual plagiarist president of Harvard? Democrats just love power and disregard all ethics to maintain their positions. Of course they are going scorched earth to prevent Trump from regaining the White House, threatens their power base and ability to fleece. Just like 2020, the Dems will pull out all the stops. They will even boot Biden off the ticket if he doesn’t close the gap enough for their vote shuffling schemes to be effective. Fantasies. You refer to the polls with virtually every negative Biden post, while simultaneously dodging questions right and left. So let's look at some polls, since you're convinced. www.270towin.com/2024-presidential-election-polls/Trump is currently up 1%, well within the margin of error, when you combine all the national polls together. But polls...don't vote. People vote. Trump has to survive both current and future 14th Amendment challenges, felony criminal charges in multiple jurisdictions, his own ego and multiple civil lawsuits. Trump's downfall is his voters love to TALK...they don't love to show up at the ballot box. The same will be true in 2024.
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Post by aztecmusician on Dec 31, 2023 16:34:37 GMT -8
Yes, this is the single issue the Democrats are going with, they have very few Biden successes and the polls reflect that. Removing Trump from the ballot is their surest remedy. We shall see what happens with Biden. I think the influence peddling and corruption evidence is pretty cut and dry. The Democrats will circle the wagons. You will notice the mainstream media isn’t covering the Biden impeachment, a coverup compared to the phony Trump impeachment, which was gavel to gavel. Senator Menendez and his wholesale corruption, all but ignored. Does MSNBC highlight or lede the intellectual lightweight/habitual plagiarist president of Harvard? Democrats just love power and disregard all ethics to maintain their positions. Of course they are going scorched earth to prevent Trump from regaining the White House, threatens their power base and ability to fleece. Just like 2020, the Dems will pull out all the stops. They will even boot Biden off the ticket if he doesn’t close the gap enough for their vote shuffling schemes to be effective. When it comes out Donald Trump sold out our country, what's your reaction going to be? Applause? Indifference? Sold out our country? You must be talking about Biden.
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Post by aztecmusician on Dec 31, 2023 16:36:45 GMT -8
Yes, this is the single issue the Democrats are going with, they have very few Biden successes and the polls reflect that. Removing Trump from the ballot is their surest remedy. We shall see what happens with Biden. I think the influence peddling and corruption evidence is pretty cut and dry. The Democrats will circle the wagons. You will notice the mainstream media isn’t covering the Biden impeachment, a coverup compared to the phony Trump impeachment, which was gavel to gavel. Senator Menendez and his wholesale corruption, all but ignored. Does MSNBC highlight or lede the intellectual lightweight/habitual plagiarist president of Harvard? Democrats just love power and disregard all ethics to maintain their positions. Of course they are going scorched earth to prevent Trump from regaining the White House, threatens their power base and ability to fleece. Just like 2020, the Dems will pull out all the stops. They will even boot Biden off the ticket if he doesn’t close the gap enough for their vote shuffling schemes to be effective. Fantasies. You refer to the polls with virtually every negative Biden post, while simultaneously dodging questions right and left. So let's look at some polls, since you're convinced. www.270towin.com/2024-presidential-election-polls/Trump is currently up 1%, well within the margin of error, when you combine all the national polls together. But polls...don't vote. People vote. Trump has to survive both current and future 14th Amendment challenges, felony criminal charges in multiple jurisdictions, his own ego and multiple civil lawsuits. Trump's downfall is his voters love to TALK...they don't love to show up at the ballot box. The same will be true in 2024. If this is the case, why is Axelrod, Obama openly talking about booting Biden off the ticket? The crucial swing states are leaning Trump. Biden is tripping and falling….literally and in the polls. He appears old and feeble, while Trump projects strength and alertness. Just listen to the two speak. Biden is incoherent and useless without his teleprompter. NOT PRESIDENTIAL.
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 31, 2023 16:50:24 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 31, 2023 17:03:38 GMT -8
Fantasies. You refer to the polls with virtually every negative Biden post, while simultaneously dodging questions right and left. So let's look at some polls, since you're convinced. www.270towin.com/2024-presidential-election-polls/Trump is currently up 1%, well within the margin of error, when you combine all the national polls together. But polls...don't vote. People vote. Trump has to survive both current and future 14th Amendment challenges, felony criminal charges in multiple jurisdictions, his own ego and multiple civil lawsuits. Trump's downfall is his voters love to TALK...they don't love to show up at the ballot box. The same will be true in 2024. If this is the case, why is Axelrod, Obama openly talking about booting Biden off the ticket? The crucial swing states are leaning Trump. Biden is tripping and falling….literally and in the polls. He appears old and feeble, while Trump projects strength and alertness. Just listen to the two speak. Biden is incoherent and useless without his teleprompter. NOT PRESIDENTIAL. That's a pretty silly characterization and not actually what's happening. Biden's age is the obvious elephant in the room, Axelrod was quoted as saying "I wish he had stopped at one term." That doesn't mean anything, anywhere at or near the level of shopping for a new candidate. Do we need to talk about how polls work again? It's December 31st. The election is 10+ months away. The polls right now are meaningless, as I've told you multiple times. State polls right now (in some cases as few as one poll) can and will oscillate, especially when we get closer to Trump staring down prison. Trump projects strength and alertness? Strength? He's a coward. He's terrified of going to prison. That could be the funniest thing I've read in 2023. Strength? Does this sound strong to you? I know you're anti-immigrant, what about this? Strength...lol. You think Trump is articulate or something? He doesn't use a teleprompter? Right.
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Post by johneaztec on Dec 31, 2023 19:07:29 GMT -8
If this is the case, why is Axelrod, Obama openly talking about booting Biden off the ticket? The crucial swing states are leaning Trump. Biden is tripping and falling….literally and in the polls. He appears old and feeble, while Trump projects strength and alertness. Just listen to the two speak. Biden is incoherent and useless without his teleprompter. NOT PRESIDENTIAL. That's a pretty silly characterization and not actually what's happening. Biden's age is the obvious elephant in the room, Axelrod was quoted as saying "I wish he had stopped at one term." That doesn't mean anything, anywhere at or near the level of shopping for a new candidate. Do we need to talk about how polls work again? It's December 31st. The election is 10+ months away. The polls right now are meaningless, as I've told you multiple times. State polls right now (in some cases as few as one poll) can and will oscillate, especially when we get closer to Trump staring down prison. Trump projects strength and alertness? Strength? He's a coward. He's terrified of going to prison. That could be the funniest thing I've read in 2023. Strength? Does this sound strong to you? I know you're anti-immigrant, what about this? Strength...lol. You think Trump is articulate or something? He doesn't use a teleprompter? Right. To me, he doesn't sound scared, or strong. He sounds like the typical Donald Trump that he's always been. Much ado about nothing.
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 31, 2023 20:02:17 GMT -8
That's a pretty silly characterization and not actually what's happening. Biden's age is the obvious elephant in the room, Axelrod was quoted as saying "I wish he had stopped at one term." That doesn't mean anything, anywhere at or near the level of shopping for a new candidate. Do we need to talk about how polls work again? It's December 31st. The election is 10+ months away. The polls right now are meaningless, as I've told you multiple times. State polls right now (in some cases as few as one poll) can and will oscillate, especially when we get closer to Trump staring down prison. Trump projects strength and alertness? Strength? He's a coward. He's terrified of going to prison. That could be the funniest thing I've read in 2023. Strength? Does this sound strong to you? I know you're anti-immigrant, what about this? Strength...lol. You think Trump is articulate or something? He doesn't use a teleprompter? Right. To me, he doesn't sound scared, or strong. He sounds like the typical Donald Trump that he's always been. Much ado about nothing. Then you probably should be paying more attention, honestly. www.google.com/amp/s/www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-prison-conviction-trial-1234828231/amp/www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/11/donald-trump-post-white-house-prosecutionswww.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12196697/amp/Hes-scared-s-Trumps-former-chief-staff-says-ex-president-terrified-going-jail.htmlNumerous people close to Trump, people inside his inner circle, his own legal staff....have all said he's privately expressed serious concerns about going to prison. He's scared. Go to Truth Social, you'll see 40, 50, 60 posts a day, at all hours of the day and night. Attacking Jack Smith, his family, other attorneys, judges, basically anyone without the last name Trump. I'll refer back to the latest legal filing from the DOJ: You don't use specific, meticulous examples like Jack Smith did if you don't have proof that those things happened. It would be a fatal legal strategy. Smith's team, which includes one of the most respected lawyers in the world, isn't doing that. I will agree that the attacks and the bravado (false bravado, really) are typical of the normal Trump bluster. But they also indicate the awareness he has of the impending legal jeopardy in front of him. A prison sentence for him is almost assuredly a terminal one, considering the seriousness of the offenses he's charged with.
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Post by johneaztec on Dec 31, 2023 20:15:21 GMT -8
To me, he doesn't sound scared, or strong. He sounds like the typical Donald Trump that he's always been. Much ado about nothing. Then you probably should be paying more attention, honestly. www.google.com/amp/s/www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-prison-conviction-trial-1234828231/amp/www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/11/donald-trump-post-white-house-prosecutionswww.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12196697/amp/Hes-scared-s-Trumps-former-chief-staff-says-ex-president-terrified-going-jail.htmlNumerous people close to Trump, people inside his inner circle, his own legal staff....have all said he's privately expressed serious concerns about going to prison. He's scared. Go to Truth Social, you'll see 40, 50, 60 posts a day, at all hours of the day and night. Attacking Jack Smith, his family, other attorneys, judges, basically anyone without the last name Trump. I'll refer back to the latest legal filing from the DOJ: You don't use specific, meticulous examples like Jack Smith did if you don't have proof that those things happened. It would be a fatal legal strategy. Smith's team, which includes one of the most respected lawyers in the world, isn't doing that. I will agree that the attacks and the bravado (false bravado, really) are typical of the normal Trump bluster. But they also indicate the awareness he has of the impending legal jeopardy in front of him. A prison sentence for him is almost assuredly a terminal one, considering the seriousness of the offenses he's charged with. Well yeah, there's the typical fright that anyone would have with a possible prison sentence looming ahead, but he's reacting to it all like the Donald Trump we all know. Nothing shocking there. His actions towards it are nothing out of the ordinary to make a note of it. Status quo. I know you want to continuously make him look as bad as you possibly can, and bring up EVERY SINGLE situation he's involved in, ok, but it's a bit much. It's getting redundant.
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