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Post by johneaztec on Feb 15, 2024 15:56:13 GMT -8
War Crimes - are not the same thing as Genocide.
Genocide is a type of war crime. Genocide is arguably the worst type of war crime that you could commit. So saying that Russia committed War Crimes is not the same thing is saying that Russia committed Genocide.Here are some of the war crimes that the US committed in Afghanistan:2002 prisoner torture at Bagram Theater Internment Facility 2003 homicide of Abdul Wali 2010 Kandahar homicides 2011 Helmand murder 2012 Kandahar massacre 2015 Kunduz hospital airstrike In September 2018, the United States threatened to arrest and impose sanctions on International Criminal Court (ICC) judges and other officials if they charged any US soldiers who served in Afghanistan with war crimes. The US further stated it would not cooperate with the ICC if it carried out an investigation into allegations of war crimes by the US in Afghanistan. On 12 April 2019 a panel of ICC judges decided not to open an investigation regarding Afghanistan. Stop acting like war crimes are the same thing as Genocide. What is going on in Gaza is much worse then what is going on in Ukraine. You're right. Genocide is an attempt at cleansing a race/ ethic group, etc... It's a whole other ball game compared to war crimes. Hamas, and some argue that Israel, are trying to wipe each other out. www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-a-genocide-and-a-war-crime |
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Post by azson on Feb 15, 2024 15:57:25 GMT -8
OK, I think three pages is enough for this off-topic debate. We have an Israel thread for this. Thanks.
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 15, 2024 15:59:16 GMT -8
War Crimes - are not the same thing as Genocide.
Genocide is a type of war crime. Genocide is arguably the worst type of war crime that you could commit. So saying that Russia committed War Crimes is not the same thing is saying that Russia committed Genocide.Here are some of the war crimes that the US committed in Afghanistan:2002 prisoner torture at Bagram Theater Internment Facility 2003 homicide of Abdul Wali 2010 Kandahar homicides 2011 Helmand murder 2012 Kandahar massacre 2015 Kunduz hospital airstrike In September 2018, the United States threatened to arrest and impose sanctions on International Criminal Court (ICC) judges and other officials if they charged any US soldiers who served in Afghanistan with war crimes. The US further stated it would not cooperate with the ICC if it carried out an investigation into allegations of war crimes by the US in Afghanistan. On 12 April 2019 a panel of ICC judges decided not to open an investigation regarding Afghanistan. Stop acting like war crimes are the same thing as Genocide. What is going on in Gaza is much worse then what is going on in Ukraine. You're right. www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-a-genocide-and-a-war-crimeAn actual point could be made here, but Russia is also committing genocide in Ukraine, which was the entire...actual point. |
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Post by johneaztec on Feb 15, 2024 16:17:36 GMT -8
An actual point could be made here, but Russia is also committing genocide in Ukraine, which was the entire...actual point. Unless Russia, and or, Ukraine are trying to wipe each other out as a group, it's not Genocide according to several definitions of it. Russia wants Ukrainians to become Russians. |
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 15, 2024 16:27:42 GMT -8
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Post by johneaztec on Feb 15, 2024 16:41:32 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 15, 2024 16:49:59 GMT -8
Helps if you actually read. "Ukraine brought the case to the International Court of Justice (ICJ), also known as the World Court, days after Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022." |
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Post by johneaztec on Feb 15, 2024 19:37:27 GMT -8
Helps if you actually read. "Ukraine brought the case to the International Court of Justice (ICJ), also known as the World Court, days after Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022." It would help if you comprehend. I did read it. Smart/dumb a**. I said there hasn't been a ruling. Correct? Groups can bring a case to court, but that's not final. Ukraine has been accused of genocide as well. Although, I don't think they have. |
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 15, 2024 19:49:32 GMT -8
Helps if you actually read. "Ukraine brought the case to the International Court of Justice (ICJ), also known as the World Court, days after Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022." It would help if you comprehend. I did read it. Smart/dumb a**. I said there hasn't been a ruling. Correct? Groups can bring a case to court, but that's not final. Ukraine has been accused of genocide as well. Although, I don't think they have. Yes, which reinforces my point. Both situations have been documented since 2022, when Russia was raping elderly women and committing acts of genocide against Ukrainians. |
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Post by aardvark on Mar 4, 2024 11:01:45 GMT -8
SCOTUS decides 9-0 to allow Trump to stay on the Colorado ballot (which, I would think, would keep Trump on the ballot in all contesting states).
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 4, 2024 11:10:31 GMT -8
SCOTUS decides 9-0 to allow Trump to stay on the Colorado ballot (which, I would think, would keep Trump on the ballot in all contesting states). It will. But there's an important subplot here: Trump was *not* cleared of insurrection in the opinion. The justices ruled that 14/3 wasn't self-executing (which is in direct conflict with the originalist text) but left the mechanism and execution up to Congress. Also, the vote on the actual breadth of the motion was 5-4, which raises some serious ethical questions about Clarence Thomas. |
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Mar 4, 2024 13:03:02 GMT -8
The courts ain't saving America from itself...only the people will...or not...that's the way it should be...if Trump wins...America knew what it was buying...and that what kind of country we are for the world to see...and America to know without plausible deniability....
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Post by aardvark on Mar 4, 2024 14:34:46 GMT -8
SCOTUS decides 9-0 to allow Trump to stay on the Colorado ballot (which, I would think, would keep Trump on the ballot in all contesting states). It will. But there's an important subplot here: Trump was *not* cleared of insurrection in the opinion. The justices ruled that 14/3 wasn't self-executing (which is in direct conflict with the originalist text) but left the mechanism and execution up to Congress. Also, the vote on the actual breadth of the motion was 5-4, which raises some serious ethical questions about Clarence Thomas. Nor has he been charged with insurrection. |
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 4, 2024 15:02:51 GMT -8
It will. But there's an important subplot here: Trump was *not* cleared of insurrection in the opinion. The justices ruled that 14/3 wasn't self-executing (which is in direct conflict with the originalist text) but left the mechanism and execution up to Congress. Also, the vote on the actual breadth of the motion was 5-4, which raises some serious ethical questions about Clarence Thomas. Nor has he been charged with insurrection. I'm aware. It doesn't matter in terms of disqualification. We'll see what happens when oral arguments are heard next month. |
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 4, 2024 15:36:10 GMT -8
Part of the issue here is there is so much misinformation that we are living in some kind of Truman Show simulation.
A fundamental point of disagreement? Acknowledging there was even an insurrection in the first place. The MAGA crowd insists that can't possibly be true, it was entirely peaceful, there were no laws broken....which is of course, silly. The 14th Amendment was ratified in 1868, yet here we are relying on it in 2024.
Now you get the same crowd championing this ruling today without even bothering to read it. None of the nine justices absolved Trump of being an insurrectionist, as the DC Circuit ruled in its own filing. All they saw was "9-0" and they shout from the rooftops. It was always going to be a "unanimous" verdict *on the merits of Constitutional interpretation* and to avoid the appearance of political/legal interference.
As mentioned earlier, SCOTUS showed their hand a little bit today in a pretty disturbing way. They chose to delay the immunity oral arguments, when they weren't obligated to even grant cert. Now, they act quickly, handing Trump a win the day before Super Tuesday. States rights to control their own elections? Precedent set. Passing the buck to Congress to act is a complete institutional failure of the highest order.
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 27, 2024 15:34:55 GMT -8
Former Trump attorney John Eastman, who helped concoct the January 6th plot to overturn the election, has been disbarred from practicing law in a California hearing.
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Post by azson on Mar 27, 2024 15:41:40 GMT -8
Former Trump attorney John Eastman, who helped concoct the January 6th plot to overturn the election, has been disbarred from practicing law in a California hearing. Link? Not seeing it on the Googles. |
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 27, 2024 15:43:14 GMT -8
Former Trump attorney John Eastman, who helped concoct the January 6th plot to overturn the election, has been disbarred from practicing law in a California hearing. Link? Not seeing it on the Googles. |
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