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Post by Den60 on Sept 9, 2024 12:03:48 GMT -8
I think most of us understand the rebuilding nature of this season. Fan frustration stems from the sloppy play (ie, penalties) and strange play calling. We actually would have had a chance to win the Oregon State game with a little more discipline from the players and coaches. I'd be far less upset if the Aztecs lost by 28 as a result of them trying to score late in the game instead of that attempt to run out the clock OK, do you put O'Neil back there throwing with the defense expecting that so they bring pressure risking injury or do you replace him with his backup and do the same? In the latter, isn't replacing your starting QB in the last 4 minutes trailing by 3 TDs because you don't want him to get hurt another form of "surrendering?"
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Post by jcljorgenson on Sept 9, 2024 12:07:30 GMT -8
Looking back the past 10 years or so, SDSU football has been in the Top 20 for winning percentages. Last year sucked, which is a big reason why Hoke is gone. But I think SDSU has gotten to a point where we should expect to win every year, so I'm not sure how I feel about accepting this will be another losing/rebuilding year.
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Post by aztecfred on Sept 9, 2024 12:59:52 GMT -8
Notice OSU coach go for win while up14-0 instead of running out the clock? He ran 4 consecutive run plays for 21 yards while starting on the Aztecs 42 and playing against a defense that had been on the field for 40 minutes. Threw a 21 yd TD pass with 4:36 in 4th to make it 21-0
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Post by sdsustoner on Sept 9, 2024 13:04:47 GMT -8
I'd be far less upset if the Aztecs lost by 28 as a result of them trying to score late in the game instead of that attempt to run out the clock OK, do you put O'Neil back there throwing with the defense expecting that so they bring pressure risking injury or do you replace him with his backup and do the same? In the latter, isn't replacing your starting QB in the last 4 minutes trailing by 3 TDs because you don't want him to get hurt another form of "surrendering?" Nope. Just like OSU didn't surrender when they put their back up QB in the game
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 9, 2024 14:15:30 GMT -8
I hope people in here do not have unrealistic expectations for next year. Next year is about showing a foundation of building in the right direction, but we may very well have a losing record. The record will not determine whether lewis is a bad coach. This kind of turnover and lack of cohesion will be seen on the field. Excellent and insightful comments from nine months ago. Looks like a lot of people didn't take them to heart.
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Post by myownwords on Sept 9, 2024 16:31:00 GMT -8
The infectious energy radiating from Coach Lewis and his youth, is going to improve recruiting significantly as well as play. AND I believe strongly that we'll have a very good year, winning season certainly.This is not a rebuild from a moribund program. It's revamping the miserable coaching and improving the talent already sitting on the bench. Still feeling the same? Struggling. This was VERY disappointing. The real world has a way of dosing one with reality. Was this a "V-8" slap? Or a b***h slap?
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Post by Den60 on Sept 9, 2024 16:41:45 GMT -8
He ran 4 consecutive run plays for 21 yards while starting on the Aztecs 42 and playing against a defense that had been on the field for 40 minutes. Threw a 21 yd TD pass with 4:36 in 4th to make it 21-0 Yes, again from his 21 yard line after running 4 times consecutively against a defense that had them been on the field for 41 minutes. Hardly a risky play.
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Post by Den60 on Sept 9, 2024 16:44:19 GMT -8
OK, do you put O'Neil back there throwing with the defense expecting that so they bring pressure risking injury or do you replace him with his backup and do the same? In the latter, isn't replacing your starting QB in the last 4 minutes trailing by 3 TDs because you don't want him to get hurt another form of "surrendering?" Nope. Just like OSU didn't surrender when they put their back up QB in the game I wouldn't expect a team to surrender when up by 3 TDs with a 2 some minutes to play. They put their backup in for the exact same reason we did last week, to hand off the ball and run out the clock.
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Post by jp92grad on Sept 9, 2024 16:47:30 GMT -8
Right now more concern with just basic play on the field, looking for a foundation on which to build from.
The first 2 weeks have been hard to watch but I will say more excited about this years program then the last 2 years.
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Post by AzTex on Sept 9, 2024 16:51:59 GMT -8
I hope people in here do not have unrealistic expectations for next year. Next year is about showing a foundation of building in the right direction, but we may very well have a losing record. The record will not determine whether lewis is a bad coach. This kind of turnover and lack of cohesion will be seen on the field. Did not have unrealistic expectations, but Saturday was my first in-person game since the UNR game last year and the Aztecs were shut out again. Is it too much to ask to see the Aztecs score more points than the Wave? Coincidence? I hope this isn't the start of a trend.
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Post by aztecfred on Sept 9, 2024 17:04:27 GMT -8
Threw a 21 yd TD pass with 4:36 in 4th to make it 21-0 Yes, again from his 21 yard line after running 4 times consecutively against a defense that had them been on the field for 41 minutes. Hardly a risky play. Not sure of your point, not sure I care anymore? My point was they didn't sit on their lead with 4+ minutes, while we sat on our loss with 4+ minutes.
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Post by fisherville on Sept 9, 2024 23:10:10 GMT -8
I did not find the play-calling to be strange at all, the offensive line got whipped and the freshman QB struggled. The penalties are frustrating but it did get better as game went on. Lets see how much it is a problem rest of year.
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Post by azson on Sept 10, 2024 8:09:48 GMT -8
Did not have unrealistic expectations, but Saturday was my first in-person game since the UNR game last year and the Aztecs were shut out again. Is it too much to ask to see the Aztecs score more points than the Wave? Coincidence? I hope this isn't the start of a trend. I'm O-Fer at The Snapper (Aztecs and Wave), including three shutouts (the other being the Wave semis last year), so yes I'm starting to get a complex and trying to figure out what the personal negative juju I'm bringing is.
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Post by myownwords on Sept 10, 2024 13:20:34 GMT -8
Right now more concern with just basic play on the field, looking for a foundation on which to build from. The first 2 weeks have been hard to watch but I will say more excited about this years program then the last 2 years. Good points. It sure appears like Hoke is still the coach. Hard to see much of a change from the early '23 season, to the current '24 maladroit sputtering.
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Post by Den60 on Sept 10, 2024 20:21:17 GMT -8
Yes, again from his 21 yard line after running 4 times consecutively against a defense that had them been on the field for 41 minutes. Hardly a risky play. Not sure of your point, not sure I care anymore? My point was they didn't sit on their lead with 4+ minutes, while we sat on our loss with 4+ minutes. Because they were given great field position after we went for it on 4th an 18 from our own 42. Then OSU proceeded to run it 4 times for 21 yards before throwing a TD while on our 21 yard line. Not risky at all and the receiver was wide open. Our defense was on the field for more than 2/3s of the game, they were gassed. What, exactly should we have done following if you were coaching. What plays would you have run?
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Post by Den60 on Sept 10, 2024 20:22:55 GMT -8
Coincidence? I hope this isn't the start of a trend. I'm O-Fer at The Snapper (Aztecs and Wave), including three shutouts (the other being the Wave semis last year), so yes I'm starting to get a complex and trying to figure out what the personal negative juju I'm bringing is. I'm not sure but I think it requires you to sacrifice a chicken to start.
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Post by PAC12 Aztec on Sept 11, 2024 8:28:15 GMT -8
I'm O-Fer at The Snapper (Aztecs and Wave), including three shutouts (the other being the Wave semis last year), so yes I'm starting to get a complex and trying to figure out what the personal negative juju I'm bringing is. I'm not sure but I think it requires you to sacrifice a chicken to start. Wait, are you Haitan or something? Why do you want to sacrifice a chicken? Joking of course, just joking.
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Post by AzTex on Sept 11, 2024 9:29:21 GMT -8
I'm not sure but I think it requires you to sacrifice a chicken to start. Wait, are you Haitan or something? Why do you want to sacrifice a chicken?Joking of course, just joking. Well, it couldn't hurt, except for the chicken of course. If azson intends coming to any more home games he might as well give it a try.
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Post by Boise Aztec on Sept 11, 2024 9:51:32 GMT -8
Right now more concern with just basic play on the field, looking for a foundation on which to build from. The first 2 weeks have been hard to watch but I will say more excited about this years program then the last 2 years. Good points. It sure appears like Hoke is still the coach. Hard to see much of a change from the early '23 season, to the current '24 maladroit sputtering. I have missed your comments… I feel like you are poking the bear here… but I’ll bite… just like in Hoke’s first year with a real OC and DC everyone was learning a new system, same today… so everyone is a half step slow, not on every play, but on about 75% of the plays, both on offense and defense at least one guy is “slow” because he is thinking instead of reacting… it shows up most prominently on the O-line… This is a very different culture and will have a very different recruiting out come… you don’t put up 20+ points against teams like Georgia with a Kent State roster unless you know what you are doing… the guy before him at KSU was 18-45, the guy after him is 1-13, while he was 24-31… not a winner record, but way better than the normal KSU coach… at Colorado last year, with him calling plays they were 4-4 and scoring 32 points per game… since they are 1-5 with the only win a close call against NDSU and they are averaging 20 points per game…
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Post by azson on Sept 11, 2024 10:21:57 GMT -8
Wait, are you Haitan or something? Why do you want to sacrifice a chicken?Joking of course, just joking. Well, it couldn't hurt, except for the chicken of course. If azson intends coming to any more home games he might as well give it a try. I won't be at the Hawaii game so that prob means a W for the Aztecs. I'm happy to stay away if it means we keep winning.
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