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Post by FULL_MONTY on Nov 16, 2023 19:37:16 GMT -8
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Post by laaztec on Nov 16, 2023 19:49:04 GMT -8
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Post by azman on Nov 16, 2023 20:20:00 GMT -8
www.yahoo.com/sports/oregon-state-washington-state-looking-022049086.html“The agreement, expected to include a lucrative financial package for Mountain West members, is likely to feature a long-term commitment to the conference with an intent at a full merger beyond this two-year cycle. Part of the agreement includes a financial penalty that can be levied upon Oregon State and Washington State if the two programs attempt to acquire only a portion of MWC schools in the future.” Guess it will depend on how big that financial penalty is…
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Post by docmm on Nov 16, 2023 21:00:49 GMT -8
I guess the MWC schools that do get asked can all chip in.
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Post by myownwords on Nov 17, 2023 6:48:08 GMT -8
The PAC would be Kliavkoff-stupid to accept such a restriction. |
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Post by waxxon on Nov 17, 2023 7:28:03 GMT -8
www.yahoo.com/sports/oregon-state-washington-state-looking-022049086.html“The agreement, expected to include a lucrative financial package for Mountain West members, is likely to feature a long-term commitment to the conference with an intent at a full merger beyond this two-year cycle. Part of the agreement includes a financial penalty that can be levied upon Oregon State and Washington State if the two programs attempt to acquire only a portion of MWC schools in the future.” Guess it will depend on how big that financial penalty is… No penalty is too big for the lawyers to start bickering about |
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Post by azteclou on Nov 17, 2023 7:29:48 GMT -8
www.yahoo.com/sports/oregon-state-washington-state-looking-022049086.html“The agreement, expected to include a lucrative financial package for Mountain West members, is likely to feature a long-term commitment to the conference with an intent at a full merger beyond this two-year cycle. Part of the agreement includes a financial penalty that can be levied upon Oregon State and Washington State if the two programs attempt to acquire only a portion of MWC schools in the future.” Guess it will depend on how big that financial penalty is… The way I read this is that if WSU and OSU do not want all members of the current MWC to join the new PAC conf in a merger, they will have to pay those teams off with some of those millions they will get by keeping the PAC-2 together. Nevarez is smart. She doesn’t want to leave those teams empty handed. |
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Post by Snohomie-Aztec on Nov 17, 2023 8:21:54 GMT -8
www.yahoo.com/sports/oregon-state-washington-state-looking-022049086.html“The agreement, expected to include a lucrative financial package for Mountain West members, is likely to feature a long-term commitment to the conference with an intent at a full merger beyond this two-year cycle. Part of the agreement includes a financial penalty that can be levied upon Oregon State and Washington State if the two programs attempt to acquire only a portion of MWC schools in the future.” Guess it will depend on how big that financial penalty is… The way I read this is that if WSU and OSU do not want all members of the current MWC to join the new PAC conf in a merger, they will have to pay those teams off with some of those millions they will get by keeping the PAC-2 together. Nevarez is smart. She doesn’t want to leave those teams empty handed. I think that this is essentially correct. Some sort of protection or recompense for any castoffs is a good ask for MWC. In the interim, the commissioner must represent all members of the conference. PS: Nevarez could negotiate circles around Kliavkoff... |
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Post by Boise Aztec on Nov 17, 2023 8:56:19 GMT -8
The way I read this is that if WSU and OSU do not want all members of the current MWC to join the new PAC conf in a merger, they will have to pay those teams off with some of those millions they will get by keeping the PAC-2 together. Nevarez is smart. She doesn’t want to leave those teams empty handed. I think that this is essentially correct. Some sort of protection or recompense for any castoffs is a good ask for MWC. In the interim, the commissioner must represent all members of the conference. PS: Nevarez could negotiate circles around Kliavkoff... Agree… Nevárez is strong |
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Post by aztecalum on Nov 17, 2023 9:16:05 GMT -8
the penalty should be reasonable like each school left behind receive up to 1 years annual revenue from conference.
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Nov 17, 2023 10:44:39 GMT -8
I think that this is essentially correct. Some sort of protection or recompense for any castoffs is a good ask for MWC. In the interim, the commissioner must represent all members of the conference. PS: Nevarez could negotiate circles around Kliavkoff... Agree… Nevárez is strong meh. www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy49ho2dcY4This speech was meh. |
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Post by standiego on Nov 17, 2023 10:50:05 GMT -8
could the new PAC also take the current commissioner of the MW and donate the former head of the PAC
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Post by Boise Aztec on Nov 17, 2023 10:54:24 GMT -8
could the new PAC also take the current commissioner of the MW and donate the former head of the PAC There is a strong chance that Nevárez is the next P8/10 commissioner |
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Post by sandiegopoke on Nov 17, 2023 10:58:53 GMT -8
Exactly what I had heard… very unlikely the new P8/10 includes more than six MWC schools… It makes the most sense, you don't bring on members that dilute the pie. The long-term impact of taking 14 and having an average payout drop for illustrative purposes from $9M to $6M is insane. You would pay the buyouts of $17M or less, because in just 3-5 years you break even and make more long-term money. Hence, you bring on enough members to solidify the conference and no more unless they increase the pie. This isn't rocket science. What if the pie isn't as big as you think unless you have more schools? i.e. We think you're worth $4M/team regardless of smaller or larger conference. |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Nov 17, 2023 11:02:51 GMT -8
It makes the most sense, you don't bring on members that dilute the pie. The long-term impact of taking 14 and having an average payout drop for illustrative purposes from $9M to $6M is insane. You would pay the buyouts of $17M or less, because in just 3-5 years you break even and make more long-term money. Hence, you bring on enough members to solidify the conference and no more unless they increase the pie. This isn't rocket science. What if the pie isn't as big as you think unless you have more schools? i.e. We think you're worth $4M/team regardless of smaller or larger conference. Then everyone is worth the same amount and hence no one dilutes the pie. Do you believe that each member of the MW has the same value to a TV contract? |
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Post by standiego on Nov 17, 2023 11:03:53 GMT -8
would guess that she has to put up something so it does not look as a cave in to the PAC 2 demands
Have they also talked about what would happen to OSU and WSU basketball ? for the next couple of years
If there are the tough penalties for leaving the MW for a new PAC - does that mean the PAC 2 are less likely to want to settle with the departing schools of the PAC - might need the larger amount of money .
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Post by sandiegopoke on Nov 17, 2023 12:24:57 GMT -8
What if the pie isn't as big as you think unless you have more schools? i.e. We think you're worth $4M/team regardless of smaller or larger conference. Then everyone is worth the same amount and hence no one dilutes the pie. Do you believe that each member of the MW has the same value to a TV contract? I don't, but I also don't think the "media" leaders will slice and dice, but will have a bulldozer. |
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Post by aztech on Nov 17, 2023 14:35:17 GMT -8
www.yahoo.com/sports/oregon-state-washington-state-looking-022049086.html“The agreement, expected to include a lucrative financial package for Mountain West members, is likely to feature a long-term commitment to the conference with an intent at a full merger beyond this two-year cycle. Part of the agreement includes a financial penalty that can be levied upon Oregon State and Washington State if the two programs attempt to acquire only a portion of MWC schools in the future.” Guess it will depend on how big that financial penalty is… The way I read this is that if WSU and OSU do not want all members of the current MWC to join the new PAC conf in a merger, they will have to pay those teams off with some of those millions they will get by keeping the PAC-2 together. Nevarez is smart. She doesn’t want to leave those teams empty handed. Nevarez knows she will have lots of exit money, but no worthy schools to bring in. Anybody she invites will be a downgrade and will likely lower their media revenue. So having that cash is just a short term benefit. I doubt she'll stick around. |
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Post by hoobs on Nov 17, 2023 14:45:42 GMT -8
The way I read this is that if WSU and OSU do not want all members of the current MWC to join the new PAC conf in a merger, they will have to pay those teams off with some of those millions they will get by keeping the PAC-2 together. Nevarez is smart. She doesn’t want to leave those teams empty handed. Nevarez knows she will have lots of exit money, but no worthy schools to bring in. Anybody she invites will be a downgrade and will likely lower their media revenue. So having that cash is just a short term benefit. I doubt she'll stick around. I'm with the folks speculating that she could be the commissioner of the 'new PAC' |
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Post by jdaztec on Nov 17, 2023 15:10:33 GMT -8
I hope so. She seems to be very good.
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