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Post by aztech on Sept 2, 2023 11:34:00 GMT -8
Perfect time for SDSU fans to support their school when they need it the most. The product doesn’t warrant the price point and the economy and inflation are eating into peoples entertainment dollars. I’m with you on supporting the school but SDSU needs to bring in more fans and they aren’t doing it with $100+ tickets. I'm no economist, but doesn't inflation mean you have more money in your pocket, but it buys less? When inflation drops then the average Joe will have less money, but it'll buy more. I think that's when it's likely they'll drop the ticket prices, if warranted. It's a big IF, but if Hoke or the next guy turns it around nobody knows how much attendance will change. Especially when the hope of getting into a power conference is practically gone. |
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Post by campanile on Sept 2, 2023 11:49:02 GMT -8
The product doesn’t warrant the price point and the economy and inflation are eating into peoples entertainment dollars. I’m with you on supporting the school but SDSU needs to bring in more fans and they aren’t doing it with $100+ tickets. I'm no economist, but doesn't inflation mean you have more money in your pocket, but it buys less? When inflation drops then the average Joe will have less money, but it'll buy more. I think that's when it's likely they'll drop the ticket prices, if warranted. It's a big IF, but if Hoke or the next guy turns it around nobody knows how much attendance will change. Especially when the hope of getting into a power conference is practically gone. I’m no economist either, but I think you’re describing Hyperinflation (see post WW1 Germany). The U.S. is not experiencing hyperinflation. This month, inflation amounted to 3.2 percent, while wages grew by 4.2 percent. The growth of wages surpassed that of inflation for the first time since March 2021. |
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Post by Den60 on Sept 2, 2023 11:52:32 GMT -8
At this point, I would be extactic if they did a buy 1 get 1 in the upper levels. I don't care that I paid full price for my seats! I buy stuff that ends up going on sale all the time, and at least I have my seats locked in. Personality I'd rather them discount prices and have a semi-full stadium than an empty stadium that's boring and lacks fan energy. They used to do buy one get one free all the time when I was in school. They have to do something. It’s weird that they haven’t addressed it at all. Looking at the UCLA a game there are tons of tickets available. I think the administration thought UCLA fans would drive down but it doesn’t look like they are going to buy $100+ tickets either. Who ever advised SDSU on ticket prices really screwed the pooch. UCLA fans don't even attend games at the Rose Bowl. Hell, their BB attendance isn't as good as SDSU's. |
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Post by laaztec on Sept 2, 2023 11:53:17 GMT -8
The product doesn’t warrant the price point and the economy and inflation are eating into peoples entertainment dollars. I’m with you on supporting the school but SDSU needs to bring in more fans and they aren’t doing it with $100+ tickets. I'm no economist, but doesn't inflation mean you have more money in your pocket, but it buys less? When inflation drops then the average Joe will have less money, but it'll buy more. I think that's when it's likely they'll drop the ticket prices, if warranted. It's a big IF, but if Hoke or the next guy turns it around nobody knows how much attendance will change. Especially when the hope of getting into a power conference is practically gone. People are paying more for goods than they were 2 years ago. Also wages are stagnant. People are paying more for just the necessities like food, rent, electricity and gasoline but aren’t bringing more money home from their jobs because wage increases haven’t kept pace with inflation. They don’t have hundreds of dollars for entertainment when they are just trying to make ends meet. |
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Post by chris92065 on Sept 2, 2023 15:52:30 GMT -8
I'm no economist, but doesn't inflation mean you have more money in your pocket, but it buys less? When inflation drops then the average Joe will have less money, but it'll buy more. I think that's when it's likely they'll drop the ticket prices, if warranted. It's a big IF, but if Hoke or the next guy turns it around nobody knows how much attendance will change. Especially when the hope of getting into a power conference is practically gone. People are paying more for goods than they were 2 years ago. Also wages are stagnant. People are paying more for just the necessities like food, rent, electricity and gasoline but aren’t bringing more money home from their jobs because wage increases haven’t kept pace with inflation. They don’t have hundreds of dollars for entertainment when they are just trying to make ends meet. Gas is over 5$ a gallon which is all you need to know about inflation when it was near 3$ a few years ago. |
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Post by laaztec on Sept 2, 2023 16:23:43 GMT -8
People are paying more for goods than they were 2 years ago. Also wages are stagnant. People are paying more for just the necessities like food, rent, electricity and gasoline but aren’t bringing more money home from their jobs because wage increases haven’t kept pace with inflation. They don’t have hundreds of dollars for entertainment when they are just trying to make ends meet. Gas is over 5$ a gallon which is all you need to know about inflation when it was near 3$ a few years ago. That too. |
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Post by standiego on Sept 2, 2023 16:30:04 GMT -8
Per OSU President Murphy on Friday
A decision should come within a couple of weeks not months . Their hope that the PAC brand can be retained in some way . They are looking for options that work for them . They hope to be playing at at the national level and be visible .
As it happens OSU plays San Jose this weekend and WSU plays CSU
In addition the AAC is looking at adding Army rather then heading West
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Post by myownwords on Sept 2, 2023 17:06:51 GMT -8
Per OSU President Murphy on Friday A decision should come within a couple of weeks not months . Their hope that the PAC brand can be retained in some way . They are looking for options that work for them . They hope to be playing at at the national level and be visible . As it happens OSU plays San Jose this weekend and WSU plays CSU In addition the AAC is looking at adding Army rather then heading West This is the equivalent to the Kliavkoff Kluster, or Murphy's Law. WE will get it in the end. Take that in several different ways. |
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Post by aztecsrule72001 on Sept 2, 2023 17:14:01 GMT -8
WSU and OSU are in a tough spot since the Pac doesn't have a new media deal. No school is going to jump to that uncertainty and pay large exit fees to do it.
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Post by myownwords on Sept 2, 2023 17:22:50 GMT -8
WSU and OSU are in a tough spot since the Pac doesn't have a new media deal. No school is going to jump to that uncertainty and pay large exit fees to do it. But if some of the non-official blather is true about the "Treasure Trove" left with those two, then they could buy their way into the Big 12, as SMU did with the ACC, yes? |
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Post by 94sdsu on Sept 2, 2023 21:04:49 GMT -8
WSU and OSU are in a tough spot since the Pac doesn't have a new media deal. No school is going to jump to that uncertainty and pay large exit fees to do it. But if some of the non-official blather is true about the "Treasure Trove" left with those two, then they could buy their way into the Big 12, as SMU did with the ACC, yes? No. The supposed treasure trove is if the Pac is still a conference and they’re in it. if they leave the Pac, they’re not entitled to it |
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Post by AzTex on Sept 3, 2023 9:52:21 GMT -8
The product doesn’t warrant the price point and the economy and inflation are eating into peoples entertainment dollars. I’m with you on supporting the school but SDSU needs to bring in more fans and they aren’t doing it with $100+ tickets. I'm no economist, but doesn't inflation mean you have more money in your pocket, but it buys less? When inflation drops then the average Joe will have less money, but it'll buy more. I think that's when it's likely they'll drop the ticket prices, if warranted. It's a big IF, but if Hoke or the next guy turns it around nobody knows how much attendance will change. Especially when the hope of getting into a power conference is practically gone. You're half right. They money you have is worth less. It buys less. Inflation doesn't mean you have more money. You might have more, but it probably won't buy any more than pre inflation. |
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Post by Cwag on Sept 3, 2023 10:05:01 GMT -8
I'm no economist, but doesn't inflation mean you have more money in your pocket, but it buys less? When inflation drops then the average Joe will have less money, but it'll buy more. I think that's when it's likely they'll drop the ticket prices, if warranted. It's a big IF, but if Hoke or the next guy turns it around nobody knows how much attendance will change. Especially when the hope of getting into a power conference is practically gone. You're half right. They money you have is worth less. It buys less. Inflation doesn't mean you have more money. You might have more, but it probably won't buy any more than pre inflation. Ok maybe I'm dumb but shouldn't this be on the economic board? By the way the current inflation is 3.2% down from over 8% a year ago. |
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Post by longtimesdsufan on Sept 3, 2023 10:19:10 GMT -8
The product doesn’t warrant the price point and the economy and inflation are eating into peoples entertainment dollars. I’m with you on supporting the school but SDSU needs to bring in more fans and they aren’t doing it with $100+ tickets. I'm no economist, but doesn't inflation mean you have more money in your pocket, but it buys less? When inflation drops then the average Joe will have less money, but it'll buy more. I think that's when it's likely they'll drop the ticket prices, if warranted. It's a big IF, but if Hoke or the next guy turns it around nobody knows how much attendance will change. Especially when the hope of getting into a power conference is practically gone. I have a degree in Economics from SDSU. Inflation is too many dollars chasing to few goods. That would mean that the stadium is selling out and they then raise the prices. That is what happened when basketball started selling out for every game. The problem for SDSU Marketing is the price point is higher than the market value. They need to establish a marginal revenue curve that will determine the price that generates the most revenue for each type of seat. I believe that there is a fundimental lack of understanding about season ticket holders. I suspect that about one third did not renew their tickets this year. Without improving the relationship, next year will have the same results (fewere season ticket holders). |
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Post by aztecterrier on Sept 3, 2023 10:36:42 GMT -8
People are paying more for goods than they were 2 years ago. Also wages are stagnant. People are paying more for just the necessities like food, rent, electricity and gasoline but aren’t bringing more money home from their jobs because wage increases haven’t kept pace with inflation. They don’t have hundreds of dollars for entertainment when they are just trying to make ends meet. Gas is over 5$ a gallon which is all you need to know about inflation when it was near 3$ a few years ago. The price of gas has little to no correlation with inflation indexes. If gas prices were "all you need to know about inflation" the prices on goods across the board would be up 66% from "a few years ago". They're not. Inflation is at 3.2%< wages have increased by 4.1%. These feelings are not supported by the facts. |
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Post by laaztec on Sept 3, 2023 10:54:31 GMT -8
Gas is over 5$ a gallon which is all you need to know about inflation when it was near 3$ a few years ago. The price of gas has little to no correlation with inflation indexes. If gas prices were "all you need to know about inflation" the prices on goods across the board would be up 66% from "a few years ago". They're not. Inflation is at 3.2%< wages have increased by 4.1%. These feelings are not supported by the facts. Inflation was 7% in 2021 and 6.5% in 2022. Both years inflation far out paced wage increases. The reason inflation is coming down is because the Fed rate increases. The are designed to take the extra money out of the system. Now with the increased internet rates people can’t afford to borrow or have to pay more to service the adjustable debt they already have which takes more money out of their pockets. Inflation is a big problem still. Take a look at your grocery bill and tell me there’s no inflation. People are paying 16.5 percent more for the same products they did 2 and a half years ago. |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Sept 3, 2023 10:55:46 GMT -8
Gas is over 5$ a gallon which is all you need to know about inflation when it was near 3$ a few years ago. The price of gas has little to no correlation with inflation indexes. If gas prices were "all you need to know about inflation" the prices on goods across the board would be up 66% from "a few years ago". They're not. Inflation is at 3.2%< wages have increased by 4.1%. These feelings are not supported by the facts. Inflation is a year to year measure. So if prices rise 60% in year 1 and then 1% in year 2 current inflation is only 1%, but only because it lapped the 60%. In fact there is a high but not perfect correlation between petrol prices and inflation. |
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Post by aztecterrier on Sept 3, 2023 11:23:57 GMT -8
Time for G5 to break away, form a national mega conference of 48-60 teams, split into 4/5 divisions, establish a new 16 team tournament, go to Amazon and Apple and get a deal to be a competitor to the P3/P4.
This would secure a TV rights contract much bigger than any these conferences can get on their own.
Discuss / tell me why I'm wrong.
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Post by laaztec on Sept 3, 2023 11:37:35 GMT -8
Time for G5 to break away, form a national mega conference of 48-60 teams, split into 4/5 divisions, establish a new 16 team tournament, go to Amazon and Apple and get a deal to be a competitor to the P3/P4. This would secure a TV rights contract much bigger than any these conferences can get on their own. Discuss / tell me why I'm wrong. The Super Conferences will do the separation for us. |
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Post by aztecterrier on Sept 3, 2023 11:46:50 GMT -8
Time for G5 to break away, form a national mega conference of 48-60 teams, split into 4/5 divisions, establish a new 16 team tournament, go to Amazon and Apple and get a deal to be a competitor to the P3/P4. This would secure a TV rights contract much bigger than any these conferences can get on their own. Discuss / tell me why I'm wrong. The Super Conferences will do the separation for us. There is a choice: Schools can control their destiny or be content with being pawns/ cannon fodder. |
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