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Post by The Aztec Panther on Nov 24, 2022 10:29:27 GMT -8
I believe that the consequences are true of what she's talking about, but I don't agree with her assuming anything, or commenting on it at, this point, as if she knew them. W..o..w. Yeah, Christianity isn't a cult. Not at all.
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Post by johneaztec on Nov 24, 2022 10:55:59 GMT -8
I believe that the consequences are true of what she's talking about, but I don't agree with her assuming anything, or commenting on it at, this point, as if she knew them. W..o..w. What's w.o.w. is you never accepting any ody elses views if they don't coincide with yours, since you think you know all. WOW, but no shock here.
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Post by johneaztec on Nov 24, 2022 10:57:29 GMT -8
Yeah, Christianity isn't a cult. Not at all. Atheism isn't a cult. No, not at all.
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 24, 2022 12:43:26 GMT -8
What's w.o.w. is you never accepting any ody elses views if they don't coincide with yours, since you think you know all. WOW, but no shock here. Sorry, but if you condone the mass murder of innocent civilians through hate (which you just did by agreeing with the consequence of eternal damnation) then no, I don't accept that. That's disgusting, delusional and deserves to be condemned.
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 24, 2022 12:47:38 GMT -8
Yeah, Christianity isn't a cult. Not at all. Atheism isn't a cult. No, not at all. Choosing to not believe in the existence of a fictitious God is far less evil than condemning entire groups of people who don't share your beliefs to death because they choose to live a different lifestyle. Tolerance? Acceptance? Virtuism? All I see is hypocrisy and bigotry.
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Post by johneaztec on Nov 24, 2022 13:07:44 GMT -8
Atheism isn't a cult. No, not at all. Choosing to not believe in the existence of a fictitious God is far less evil than condemning entire groups of people who don't share your beliefs to death because they choose to live a different lifestyle. Tolerance? Acceptance? Virtuism? All I see is hypocrisy and bigotry. It's your choice to not believe in Jesus, and the fact that he created us in his image and had guidelines to live by. Jesus can impose any laws and rules to live by, since he created the Us, and the Universe. At the same time, I can choose to believe in him and his rules/laws to abide by, to the best of my ability. This is God's earth and he makes the rules. Period.
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 24, 2022 13:47:42 GMT -8
Choosing to not believe in the existence of a fictitious God is far less evil than condemning entire groups of people who don't share your beliefs to death because they choose to live a different lifestyle. Tolerance? Acceptance? Virtuism? All I see is hypocrisy and bigotry. It's your choice to not believe in Jesus, and the fact that he created us in his image and had guidelines to live by. Jesus can impose any laws and rules to live by, since he created the Us, and the Universe. At the same time, I can choose to believe in him and his rules/laws to abide by, to the best of my ability. This is God's earth and he makes the rules. Period. No, not period. There is no period to your opinion that isn't rooted in fact. And you didn't even address the point I made. Where does it say in the Bible that gay human beings should be murdered and that's okay?
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Post by johneaztec on Nov 24, 2022 18:22:05 GMT -8
It's your choice to not believe in Jesus, and the fact that he created us in his image and had guidelines to live by. Jesus can impose any laws and rules to live by, since he created the Us, and the Universe. At the same time, I can choose to believe in him and his rules/laws to abide by, to the best of my ability. This is God's earth and he makes the rules. Period. No, not period. There is no period to your opinion that isn't rooted in fact. And you didn't even address the point I made. Where does it say in the Bible that gay human beings should be murdered and that's okay? Yes, period for millions and millions of people. I did not say, nor does the Bible say that it's OK to kill gay people, or anybody for that matter. Murder is a sin, and against Man/God's law. What the Bible DOES say is that if you don't believe in Jesus Christ, believe that he died for our sins and was resurrected, and haven't repented, you will not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven. Don't let that happen.
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 24, 2022 18:49:20 GMT -8
No, not period. There is no period to your opinion that isn't rooted in fact. And you didn't even address the point I made. Where does it say in the Bible that gay human beings should be murdered and that's okay? Yes, period for millions and millions of people. I did not say, nor does the Bible say that it's OK to kill gay people, or anybody for that matter. Murder is a sin, and against Man/God's law. What the Bible DOES say is that if you don't believe in Jesus Christ, believe that he died for our sins and was resurrected, and haven't repented, you will not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven. Don't let that happen. And you're in a cult, as Erik said. Address my point. You just said those people who were killed in Club Q were sent to eternal damnation. You are saying, without reproach, that those people that were LGBTQ deserved to die because they "aren't Christian." That's what Jenna Ellis said, and you're agreeing with.
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Post by johneaztec on Nov 24, 2022 18:55:59 GMT -8
Yes, period for millions and millions of people. I did not say, nor does the Bible say that it's OK to kill gay people, or anybody for that matter. Murder is a sin, and against Man/God's law. What the Bible DOES say is that if you don't believe in Jesus Christ, believe that he died for our sins and was resurrected, and haven't repented, you will not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven. Don't let that happen. And you're in a cult, as Erik said. Address my point. You just said those people who were killed in Club Q were sent to eternal damnation. You are saying, without reproach, that those people that were LGBTQ deserved to die because they "aren't Christian." That's what Jenna Ellis said, and you're agreeing with. Nope you've got it all wrong, again. I said that I agree that the consequences of not being saved, believing in Jesus Christ will result in separation from God/not going to Heaven. I also said that I do not agree with her saying that the people in reference are going to hell since she doesn't know them. Get it straight. I'll let God judge them.
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 24, 2022 19:50:04 GMT -8
And you're in a cult, as Erik said. Address my point. You just said those people who were killed in Club Q were sent to eternal damnation. You are saying, without reproach, that those people that were LGBTQ deserved to die because they "aren't Christian." That's what Jenna Ellis said, and you're agreeing with. Nope you've got it all wrong, again. I said that I agree that the consequences of not being saved, believing in Jesus Christ will result in separation from God/not going to Heaven. I also said that I do not agree with her saying that the people in reference are going to hell since she doesn't know them. Get it straight. I'll let God judge them. And yet you're not going to denounce the actual act. Murder victims don't need to be "judged."
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Post by johneaztec on Nov 24, 2022 20:16:02 GMT -8
Nope you've got it all wrong, again. I said that I agree that the consequences of not being saved, believing in Jesus Christ will result in separation from God/not going to Heaven. I also said that I do not agree with her saying that the people in reference are going to hell since she doesn't know them. Get it straight. I'll let God judge them. And yet you're not going to denounce the actual act. Murder victims don't need to be "judged." What are you talking about?? I said that I don't condone murder of any kind. Nice try. I have continually stated my beliefs and have also said that I won't judge anybody. It's not my place. That's why I said I didn't agree with the person in the video that said they were going to hell, because she doesn't know them. Again, nice try.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Nov 24, 2022 21:24:07 GMT -8
And yet you're not going to denounce the actual act. Murder victims don't need to be "judged." What are you talking about?? I said that I don't condone murder of any kind. Nice try. I have continually stated my beliefs and have also said that I won't judge anybody. It's not my place. That's why I said I didn't agree with the person in the video that said they were going to hell, because she doesn't know them. Again, nice try. There's a HUGE difference between not condoning it and condemning it. And, FYI, there is no God. Jesus was just a man. The rest is all fiction based on word of mouth. No real evidence other than a fear of a universe governed by random chance and chaos. Fear is your motivator. And, yes, you are in a cult. I have no fear of God because there is no God. I have no fear of a universe ruled by chaos and random chance because that isn't scary. I don't need a father figure in the heavens because I've already got a dad, and a pretty darned good one at that. Religion has been twisted into something evil. There was a purpose and a need for it a couple thousand years ago, but that need has long since left the building. Now it's just a means to gain power and control peoples' lives. That is morally reprehensible.
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Post by johneaztec on Nov 24, 2022 21:49:04 GMT -8
What are you talking about?? I said that I don't condone murder of any kind. Nice try. I have continually stated my beliefs and have also said that I won't judge anybody. It's not my place. That's why I said I didn't agree with the person in the video that said they were going to hell, because she doesn't know them. Again, nice try. There's a HUGE difference between not condoning it and condemning it. And, FYI, there is no God. Jesus was just a man. The rest is all fiction based on word of mouth. No real evidence other than a fear of a universe governed by random chance and chaos. Fear is your motivator. And, yes, you are in a cult. I have no fear of God because there is no God. I have no fear of a universe ruled by chaos and random chance because that isn't scary. I don't need a father figure in the heavens because I've already got a dad, and a pretty darned good one at that. Religion has been twisted into something evil. There was a purpose and a need for it a couple thousand years ago, but that need has long since left the building. Now it's just a means to gain power and control peoples' lives. That is morally reprehensible. The bottom line is you have the right to believe in anything you want. Have at it.
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 25, 2022 8:02:40 GMT -8
There's a HUGE difference between not condoning it and condemning it. And, FYI, there is no God. Jesus was just a man. The rest is all fiction based on word of mouth. No real evidence other than a fear of a universe governed by random chance and chaos. Fear is your motivator. And, yes, you are in a cult. I have no fear of God because there is no God. I have no fear of a universe ruled by chaos and random chance because that isn't scary. I don't need a father figure in the heavens because I've already got a dad, and a pretty darned good one at that. Religion has been twisted into something evil. There was a purpose and a need for it a couple thousand years ago, but that need has long since left the building. Now it's just a means to gain power and control peoples' lives. That is morally reprehensible. The bottom line is you have the right to believe in anything you want. Have at it. The bottom line is Christians preach about their religious tolerance and their spiritual and moral empathy while practicing exactly zero of it. It's rooted in hypocrisy and hate, not acceptance and love.
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 25, 2022 8:04:53 GMT -8
The bottom line is you have the right to believe in anything you want. Have at it. The bottom line is Christians preach about their religious tolerance and their spiritual and moral empathy while practicing exactly zero of it. It's rooted in hypocrisy and hate, not acceptance and love.
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Post by johneaztec on Nov 25, 2022 9:05:31 GMT -8
The bottom line is you have the right to believe in anything you want. Have at it. The bottom line is Christians preach about their religious tolerance and their spiritual and moral empathy while practicing exactly zero of it. It's rooted in hypocrisy and hate, not acceptance and love. Yes, there are self proclaimed Christians that really don't practice the teachings of Jesus, just like in all other religions, and walks of life.
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Post by johneaztec on Nov 25, 2022 9:07:39 GMT -8
The bottom line is Christians preach about their religious tolerance and their spiritual and moral empathy while practicing exactly zero of it. It's rooted in hypocrisy and hate, not acceptance and love. And, this is an example of what I posted in my previous post. These hateful people can make anybody/religion look bad. Disgusting.
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