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Post by sdsuball on Aug 19, 2022 19:35:37 GMT -8
No one that has held office in the modern era has been worse than Donald Trump, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Ted Cruz, Matt Gaetz, Lauren Boebert, Josh Hawley, etc. These people are the worst of the worst. Liz Cheney is a conservative. So what? It is a legitimate political philosophy. If you disagree with it, fine, but conservatives may view your political philosophy with equal disdain. Liz Cheney has integrity and ethics. She so believed in doing the right thing that she sacrificed her seat in Congress to get the facts out there and hold Trump accountable. Refusing to deny birtherism is legitimate, ethical, and showing integrity? Saying Obama declared war on the constitution is legitimate? It was integrity that made her view the FBI as treasonous? I think that it's possible to celebrate when someone does something good, even if they have also done a lot of bad throughout their life.
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 19, 2022 21:35:52 GMT -8
Refusing to deny birtherism is legitimate, ethical, and showing integrity? Saying Obama declared war on the constitution is legitimate? It was integrity that made her view the FBI as treasonous? I think that it's possible to celebrate when someone does something good, even if they have also done a lot of bad throughout their life. Amen.
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Post by sdsustoner on Aug 20, 2022 3:32:05 GMT -8
Refusing to deny birtherism is legitimate, ethical, and showing integrity? Saying Obama declared war on the constitution is legitimate? It was integrity that made her view the FBI as treasonous? I think that it's possible to celebrate when someone does something good, even if they have also done a lot of bad throughout their life. Yes, but celebrate the single action Not the person who finally makes their first principled stand in their entire career It's like when the Magas holding Blue Lives Matter flags and cops brawled. Neither of them are any good. But at that moment they both should be celebrated for fighting fascism... ironically as fascists themselves 🤣
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Post by sdsustoner on Aug 20, 2022 3:39:00 GMT -8
No one that has held office in the modern era has been worse than Donald Trump, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Ted Cruz, Matt Gaetz, Lauren Boebert, Josh Hawley, etc. These people are the worst of the worst. Liz Cheney is a conservative. So what? It is a legitimate political philosophy. If you disagree with it, fine, but conservatives may view your political philosophy with equal disdain. Liz Cheney has integrity and ethics. She so believed in doing the right thing that she sacrificed her seat in Congress to get the facts out there and hold Trump accountable. How about the guy currently in office continuing many of Trump's worse policies that he promised to stop? The guy causing both major parties to move further right than the pace they were already moving at prior? Trump was terrible at optics and a national security threat. But, he's an amateur fascist compared to the political professionals doing it their entire careers.
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Post by sdsuball on Aug 20, 2022 16:25:27 GMT -8
No one that has held office in the modern era has been worse than Donald Trump, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Ted Cruz, Matt Gaetz, Lauren Boebert, Josh Hawley, etc. These people are the worst of the worst. Liz Cheney is a conservative. So what? It is a legitimate political philosophy. If you disagree with it, fine, but conservatives may view your political philosophy with equal disdain. Liz Cheney has integrity and ethics. She so believed in doing the right thing that she sacrificed her seat in Congress to get the facts out there and hold Trump accountable. How about the guy currently in office continuing many of Trump's worse policies that he promised to stop? The guy causing both major parties to move further right than the pace they were already moving at prior? Trump was terrible at optics and a national security threat. But, he's an amateur fascist compared to the political professionals doing it their entire careers. Elaborate...
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Post by sdsustoner on Aug 21, 2022 3:53:11 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 24, 2022 7:54:19 GMT -8
Negative. What is truly sad is that a grown adult such as yourself swore an allegiance to a sexual predator, a fraud and a pathological liar. Every single thing you have said is a continuous loop of false talking points, spoonfed to you by Fox Entertainment. You've been duped. Again. projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-election-forecast/senate/Unsecured border - False $5/$6 gas - False Inflation - Not exclusive to this country Corruption - LOL...Indictments. Try harder. “Swore allegiance?” I never did such a thing, that only happened in the fictional world you call your brain. As I said, you are demented, everyone on this board can see it. All we have to do is go to the supermarket or drive down the street to see the inflation and high gas prices. Your “that’s not really happening” assertions are very odd, as if you are trying to convince non demented people that the ocean is somehow not wet. Nevertheless, going after former presidents in this manner is unprecedented and incredibly dangerous to our republic. Eventually your side is going to piss off the low T GOP to act similarly to the outgoing Biden Administration. Their ownership of the low rated CNN and MSNBC/NBC/ABC networks won’t mean a thing. So, after the Republicans take over the entire Congress, are you going to claim that didn’t happen either? Oops. Guess it won't be the landslide rout you taunted about for weeks.
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Post by uwphoto on Aug 24, 2022 8:32:57 GMT -8
“Swore allegiance?” I never did such a thing, that only happened in the fictional world you call your brain. As I said, you are demented, everyone on this board can see it. All we have to do is go to the supermarket or drive down the street to see the inflation and high gas prices. Your “that’s not really happening” assertions are very odd, as if you are trying to convince non demented people that the ocean is somehow not wet. Nevertheless, going after former presidents in this manner is unprecedented and incredibly dangerous to our republic. Eventually your side is going to piss off the low T GOP to act similarly to the outgoing Biden Administration. Their ownership of the low rated CNN and MSNBC/NBC/ABC networks won’t mean a thing. So, after the Republicans take over the entire Congress, are you going to claim that didn’t happen either? Oops. Guess it won't be the landslide rout you taunted about for weeks. You mean, the Musician might have to play a sad note?
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Post by uwphoto on Aug 24, 2022 8:43:23 GMT -8
Regarding "bare minimum" environmental scientists recommend.. The fixes required to heal the environmental degradation that has depleted the Planet are not politically possible based on the present global population and usage rate / sustainability. The coming crashes will be spectacular and dramatic. We have surpassed critical mass and sustainability 30 to 50 years ago IMO. Note: I've been involved in the politics, biology, film making of the environment / natural history for 45 years.
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Post by sdsustoner on Aug 30, 2022 1:25:37 GMT -8
Regarding "bare minimum" environmental scientists recommend.. The fixes required to heal the environmental degradation that has depleted the Planet are not politically possible based on the present global population and usage rate / sustainability. The coming crashes will be spectacular and dramatic. We have surpassed critical mass and sustainability 30 to 50 years ago IMO. Note: I've been involved in the politics, biology, film making of the environment / natural history for 45 years. I get that. I was being generous with bare minimum Capitalism killed the planet. The Capitalists will one day profit from selling acid rain gear to the masses who are ironically thankful for them
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Post by ptsdthor on Aug 30, 2022 8:53:45 GMT -8
Regarding "bare minimum" environmental scientists recommend.. The fixes required to heal the environmental degradation that has depleted the Planet are not politically possible based on the present global population and usage rate / sustainability. The coming crashes will be spectacular and dramatic. We have surpassed critical mass and sustainability 30 to 50 years ago IMO. Note: I've been involved in the politics, biology, film making of the environment / natural history for 45 years. I get that. I was being generous with bare minimum Capitalism killed the planet. The Capitalists will one day profit from selling acid rain gear to the masses who are ironically thankful for them Capitalism is the most successful economic system in known history. It is obvious to virtually everyone with intellect. And it will be forever used by all who have the freedom to act upon that intellect. Just imagine the power of the police state necessary to enforce anti-capitalism autocracy (see failed Marxist Communist states like the former USSR, Cuba & North Korea). Even the CCP, which imposes mind numbing Marxist Socialism on it masses, in general, retains the benefits of Capitalism for their party elite. Funny how that happens. Capitalism is the best hope to address any global crisis, even an environmental one.
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Post by sdsustoner on Aug 30, 2022 12:16:38 GMT -8
I get that. I was being generous with bare minimum Capitalism killed the planet. The Capitalists will one day profit from selling acid rain gear to the masses who are ironically thankful for them Capitalism is the most successful economic system in known history. It is obvious to virtually everyone with intellect. And it will be forever used by all who have the freedom to act upon that intellect. Just imagine the power of the police state necessary to enforce anti-capitalism autocracy (see failed Marxist Communist states like the former USSR, Cuba & North Korea). Even the CCP, which imposes mind numbing Marxist Socialism on it masses, in general, retains the benefits of Capitalism for their party elite. Funny how that happens. Capitalism is the best hope to address any global crisis, even an environmental one. Cute CIA propaganda recitation It's going so well that it accelerated the human rights violations of imperialism without the pesky royal titles interfering with profits. What drugs are you taking to "think" the problem is going to be the solution? Also none of those examples are Marxist Thanks for showing us that's another book you failed to read
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Post by ptsdthor on Aug 30, 2022 14:18:28 GMT -8
Capitalism is the most successful economic system in known history. It is obvious to virtually everyone with intellect. And it will be forever used by all who have the freedom to act upon that intellect. Just imagine the power of the police state necessary to enforce anti-capitalism autocracy (see failed Marxist Communist states like the former USSR, Cuba & North Korea). Even the CCP, which imposes mind numbing Marxist Socialism on it masses, in general, retains the benefits of Capitalism for their party elite. Funny how that happens. Capitalism is the best hope to address any global crisis, even an environmental one. Cute CIA propaganda recitation It's going so well that it accelerated the human rights violations of imperialism without the pesky royal titles interfering with profits. What drugs are you taking to "think" the problem is going to be the solution? Also none of those examples are Marxist Thanks for showing us that's another book you failed to read As Marxism is attempted to be implemented, those in power must resort to Totalitarian Government control. The rest is history from failed state to failed state. Democracy doesn't die in darkness. It dies with thunderous applause with people worried about being seen as the one to stop clapping first.
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Post by sdsuball on Aug 30, 2022 16:10:03 GMT -8
Cute CIA propaganda recitation It's going so well that it accelerated the human rights violations of imperialism without the pesky royal titles interfering with profits. What drugs are you taking to "think" the problem is going to be the solution? Also none of those examples are Marxist Thanks for showing us that's another book you failed to read As Marxism is attempted to be implemented, those in power must resort to Totalitarian Government control. The rest is history from failed state to failed state. Democracy doesn't die in darkness. It dies with thunderous applause with people worried about being seen as the one to stop clapping first. Yes, the only successful implementations of Marxism have been through totalitarian government. Completely accurate historically. But capitalism (by itself) won't solve this environmental disaster either. It will require the government to heavily incentivize corporations to do the work that is needed to repair our environment, and/or will require a substantial expansion of our government to provide/procure environmental fixes to our problems. This could be done in a variety of different ways. Artificial carbon sequestration methods are being developed right now. A more elegant carbon sequestration solution would be to rebuild our forests by converting large quantities of farmland back into forests. These forests can be utilized as a resource as well. Forests that are maintained and harvested for wood in a sustainable manner provide both carbon sequestration and wood products. Another important consideration is dramatically improving energy efficiency. 150 years ago we didn't have electricity. We've already made cars much more energy efficient and/or electric. We need to do the same thing for buildings. We need higher efficiency buildings with better insulation to lower air conditioning and heating use, and we need to use geothermal HVAC systems instead of traditional air conditioning units. Geothermal HVAC utilize the constant temperature of the ground below the frost line (about 50 degrees F) in combination with a coolant lines that run under the house, and a compressor to heat or cool the building. Climate change is a global problem requiring joint action by countries. Market-based government incentives are likely the best mechanism to address this problem - not Marxism. Carbon credit markets to incentivize carbon sequestration are an integral part of this. Energy efficiency regulations for new buildings is (IMO) the big next step. One thing that I would like to add is that in the absence of government intervention with market based incentives, a global collapse will follow an environmental collapse, likely leading to the growth of both Marxism and Fascism.
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Post by ptsdthor on Aug 31, 2022 9:16:29 GMT -8
As Marxism is attempted to be implemented, those in power must resort to Totalitarian Government control. The rest is history from failed state to failed state. Democracy doesn't die in darkness. It dies with thunderous applause with people worried about being seen as the one to stop clapping first. Yes, the only successful implementations of Marxism have been through totalitarian government. Completely accurate historically. But capitalism (by itself) won't solve this environmental disaster either. It will require the government to heavily incentivize corporations to do the work that is needed to repair our environment, and/or will require a substantial expansion of our government to provide/procure environmental fixes to our problems. This could be done in a variety of different ways. Artificial carbon sequestration methods are being developed right now. A more elegant carbon sequestration solution would be to rebuild our forests by converting large quantities of farmland back into forests. These forests can be utilized as a resource as well. Forests that are maintained and harvested for wood in a sustainable manner provide both carbon sequestration and wood products. Another important consideration is dramatically improving energy efficiency. 150 years ago we didn't have electricity. We've already made cars much more energy efficient and/or electric. We need to do the same thing for buildings. We need higher efficiency buildings with better insulation to lower air conditioning and heating use, and we need to use geothermal HVAC systems instead of traditional air conditioning units. Geothermal HVAC utilize the constant temperature of the ground below the frost line (about 50 degrees F) in combination with a coolant lines that run under the house, and a compressor to heat or cool the building. Climate change is a global problem requiring joint action by countries. Market-based government incentives are likely the best mechanism to address this problem - not Marxism. Carbon credit markets to incentivize carbon sequestration are an integral part of this. Energy efficiency regulations for new buildings is (IMO) the big next step. One thing that I would like to add is that in the absence of government intervention with market based incentives, a global collapse will follow an environmental collapse, likely leading to the growth of both Marxism and Fascism. I agree with the incentive as a means to an end. But you bring up some interesting points, however. Managing a carbon credit system requires Government control and coercion, does it not? Not only domestically but what about internationally? - that method is absolutely ripe for corruption. And global cooperation - Is it our fault that we have a robust GDP (that we and the world rely upon btw) and for some reason the U.S. has to cripple its economy dealing with the carbon issue while China and India are seemingly left to increase their carbon emissions? Why should the U.S. cripple its economy (aka our standard of living) when it won't make a bit of difference in the world's total carbon emissions? China is after global economic dominance. Do you actually think they are going to play by rules thought up and laid down by a bunch of Progressives?
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 31, 2022 20:02:08 GMT -8
And the resident gasbag who has no situational awareness or knowledge of, well, anything? chimes in. An unmistakable message, hm? Like...what? We just had a "Republican"president. (Trump isn't even one, but I digress) We just had a Republican controlled Senate. We just had a Republican controlled House. The results were an unmitigated disaster, giving rise to a con artist and cult figure that brainwashed a segment of the population into believing he was a deity and managing to turn a once respectable political party into a propaganda machine full of disinformation, conspiracy theories and sycophantic behavior. Liz Cheney was routed because her own political party put that con artist, grifter and fraud ahead of their own party and their constitutional oath. Trump endorsed her opponent and it's no coincidence that the new secretary of state in Wyoming is an election conspiracy theorist and myth perpetuator who believes in the "Big Lie." Republicans are losing steam, though - Polling indicates that Democrats are now favored by margin to retain the Senate, even if they lose House seats. Turns out that some people aren't that stupid and actually have the ability for independent thought; go figure, right? Gross abuse of power and corruption? Read the room, flute player. Donald Trump's administration set an untouchable record for criminal indictments - Indictments that are still being handed down and sentences still being carried out as of this very day. You're in a cult, you were brainwashed by a failed reality TV star as bankrupt morally as he is financially. Be proud of that. It is truly a badge of honor to respect a man who said he would sleep with his own daughter. Maybe one day you'll figure out where inflation comes from, who controls monetary policy in the United States, why gas prices don't involve the president, what an unsecured border really looks like and how many brain cells you lose on a daily basis absorbing baseless lies from a sounding board of total horseshit. The FBI conducted a lawful search warrant on a former president who broke the law. We know this because he's broken the law and skirted the legal system for his entire adult life. Imagine devoting time to willingly pursuing an agenda defending a near 80-year-old man credibly accused of fraud, sexual assault and a multitude of other crimes. Play it again, you're out of tune. The sad ramblings of a demented liberal democrat. Take the VR goggles off, your side is going to get trounced in November. 30-40 seat advantage for GOP in the House, AND the Senate goes to the Republicans as well. Biden and the current Democrat Congress have done a $#!+ job. Even a demented person like yourself should be able to see that. Hey. Me again. Back on Earth, a Democrat just won a special election in Alaska, where the seat had been owned by a Republican for 49 years. The Dems are gaining momentum, are going to take the Senate and the fight for the House is on. It's almost like the SCOTUS overturning Roe v. Wade was a one big ass mistake.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Aug 31, 2022 22:26:04 GMT -8
Yes, the only successful implementations of Marxism have been through totalitarian government. Completely accurate historically. But capitalism (by itself) won't solve this environmental disaster either. It will require the government to heavily incentivize corporations to do the work that is needed to repair our environment, and/or will require a substantial expansion of our government to provide/procure environmental fixes to our problems. This could be done in a variety of different ways. Artificial carbon sequestration methods are being developed right now. A more elegant carbon sequestration solution would be to rebuild our forests by converting large quantities of farmland back into forests. These forests can be utilized as a resource as well. Forests that are maintained and harvested for wood in a sustainable manner provide both carbon sequestration and wood products. Another important consideration is dramatically improving energy efficiency. 150 years ago we didn't have electricity. We've already made cars much more energy efficient and/or electric. We need to do the same thing for buildings. We need higher efficiency buildings with better insulation to lower air conditioning and heating use, and we need to use geothermal HVAC systems instead of traditional air conditioning units. Geothermal HVAC utilize the constant temperature of the ground below the frost line (about 50 degrees F) in combination with a coolant lines that run under the house, and a compressor to heat or cool the building. Climate change is a global problem requiring joint action by countries. Market-based government incentives are likely the best mechanism to address this problem - not Marxism. Carbon credit markets to incentivize carbon sequestration are an integral part of this. Energy efficiency regulations for new buildings is (IMO) the big next step. One thing that I would like to add is that in the absence of government intervention with market based incentives, a global collapse will follow an environmental collapse, likely leading to the growth of both Marxism and Fascism. I agree with the incentive as a means to an end. But you bring up some interesting points, however. Managing a carbon credit system requires Government control and coercion, does it not? Not only domestically but what about internationally? - that method is absolutely ripe for corruption. And global cooperation - Is it our fault that we have a robust GDP (that we and the world rely upon btw) and for some reason the U.S. has to cripple its economy dealing with the carbon issue while China and India are seemingly left to increase their carbon emissions? Why should the U.S. cripple its economy (aka our standard of living) when it won't make a bit of difference in the world's total carbon emissions? China is after global economic dominance. Do you actually think they are going to play by rules thought up and laid down by a bunch of Progressives? You're right. Let's just do nothing, instead. No system is perfect. Is the system that you're referring to filled with the potential for corruption? Of course it is - EVERY SINGLE GOVERNING SYSTEM HAS THE POTENTIAL FOR CORRUPTION! So, what, do nothing with anything ever because the governing body could be corrupted? No, you do the best you can, but you do something. You do the most you can, not the least. And if corruption shows up, you fix it. Incorporate into the system a means to evaluate it and correct it if the system is corrupted. You fix the system if problems come up, you don't just throw it out (or refuse to start it) because it MAY become problematic in some respects later on. We have a serious problem with global warming. It's only going to get worse - and doing nothing only speeds up the problem.
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Post by sdsuball on Aug 31, 2022 22:54:23 GMT -8
Yes, the only successful implementations of Marxism have been through totalitarian government. Completely accurate historically. But capitalism (by itself) won't solve this environmental disaster either. It will require the government to heavily incentivize corporations to do the work that is needed to repair our environment, and/or will require a substantial expansion of our government to provide/procure environmental fixes to our problems. This could be done in a variety of different ways. Artificial carbon sequestration methods are being developed right now. A more elegant carbon sequestration solution would be to rebuild our forests by converting large quantities of farmland back into forests. These forests can be utilized as a resource as well. Forests that are maintained and harvested for wood in a sustainable manner provide both carbon sequestration and wood products. Another important consideration is dramatically improving energy efficiency. 150 years ago we didn't have electricity. We've already made cars much more energy efficient and/or electric. We need to do the same thing for buildings. We need higher efficiency buildings with better insulation to lower air conditioning and heating use, and we need to use geothermal HVAC systems instead of traditional air conditioning units. Geothermal HVAC utilize the constant temperature of the ground below the frost line (about 50 degrees F) in combination with a coolant lines that run under the house, and a compressor to heat or cool the building. Climate change is a global problem requiring joint action by countries. Market-based government incentives are likely the best mechanism to address this problem - not Marxism. Carbon credit markets to incentivize carbon sequestration are an integral part of this. Energy efficiency regulations for new buildings is (IMO) the big next step. One thing that I would like to add is that in the absence of government intervention with market based incentives, a global collapse will follow an environmental collapse, likely leading to the growth of both Marxism and Fascism. I agree with the incentive as a means to an end. But you bring up some interesting points, however. Managing a carbon credit system requires Government control and coercion, does it not? Not only domestically but what about internationally? - that method is absolutely ripe for corruption. And global cooperation - Is it our fault that we have a robust GDP (that we and the world rely upon btw) and for some reason the U.S. has to cripple its economy dealing with the carbon issue while China and India are seemingly left to increase their carbon emissions? Why should the U.S. cripple its economy (aka our standard of living) when it won't make a bit of difference in the world's total carbon emissions? China is after global economic dominance. Do you actually think they are going to play by rules thought up and laid down by a bunch of Progressives? China consumes a ton of energy. They are ironically both the world's leader in CO2 emissions AND renewable energy production. They produce a ton of hydropower, and they burn a lot of coal as well. Similarly, we are second in renewable energy production, and we produce the second most CO2 emissions globally. China is highly concerned with maintaining it's global reputation and status as a leading economy and global trading partner. With the Ukrainian-Russian War, China condemned Russia after being pressured by western powers. China's economy is heavily dependent upon foreign trade and exports. The US, Europe and Japan can exert a lot of leverage onto China by forcing them to move in lockstep with us (in terms of carbon reductions) or face tariffs and/or sanctions. Not to mention, Western powers control a lot of international payment processors and banking institutions. As was seen with what happened in Russia, these financial institutions exerted pressure on Russia and their oligarchs by freezing their assets. China has a lot to lose in the face of global warming. It has a large quantity of it's population near oceans and rivers, meaning that flooding and rising sea levels will harm them. Unlike Russia (which stands to gain in some respects and lose in others), China will be harmed. This incentivizes collective action. China will bend to the will of the West. Russia, on the other hand, will not. Russia has so much wealth tied up in natural gas and petroleum, they have so much new natural gas and petroleum discovery potential in Siberia, and the opening up of the Arctic brings with it so much economic potential for Russia that I don't see them ever being an advocate for carbon reduction, unless climate change has gotten so bad that it's a global humanitarian disaster (mass relocations of people, millions of people dying). A carbon credit system requires government and/or non profit organization oversight, yes. There is potential for corruption. But such a system incentivizes companies to use market forces to their advantage, leveraging capital and allocating resources efficiently. So it's a bit of a double edged sword. On one hand, allowing companies to sequester carbon in a variety of ways allows for potentially more efficient sequestration. One company can sequester carbon through mechanical technology, another can do so by reforesting unproductive farmland, yet another can sequester carbon through algae farming (yes, seriously - algae has an extremely fast growth rate, meaning that it sequesters carbon very efficiently). It allows the market to decide how carbon is sequestered. On the other hand, the US could create a farmland buyback program, where the government offers to buy land that can be converted back into forest at a cheap price (to incentivize landowners to sell back unproductive land, but still hold onto the most productive farmland). Or the US could offer to purchase carbon credits and set them aside (effectively sequestering carbon), with the catch that the credits have to be certified by a US government agency. Another possibility (if the idea of carbon credit markets is too ripe for corruption for your liking) is to focus on energy use regulations. Do what the US has done for cars, but expand it. Tighter regulations of new building construction for energy efficiency, tighter regulations for businesses and their carbon emissions. Pair those regulations with subsidizing retrofitting existing buildings for better efficiency, and perhaps a loan program that helps businesses and homeowners make their building more efficient. Something along these lines would be focusing on reducing energy use, instead of directly attempting to reverse greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. There really is no viable alternative to the climate change problem then starting to fix it. Large sections of the world will not be habitable in 50-100 years - imagine the Sahara desert, except now it's covering half of Africa, covering Southern California down into Baja (extending out to the Rockies), and the major coastal cities in China and India (where a lot of the world's population is concentrated) are either underwater or are constantly being flooded by regular events like rain and yearly monsoons. Australia becomes a desert. Meanwhile European Russians relocate to Russia's vast swaths of land in Asia, where the changing climate has made what was once a miserably cold climate bearable. Half of the 40 million people in Southern California move north, to the Pacific Northwest or Alaska. Las Vegas and Phoenix are no longer habitable due to the heat, dry up from a lack of water flows from the Colorado River because of the change in climate, and become ghost towns. Real scary dystopian type $#!+. From an economics perspective, this type of climate change scenario would greatly harm our economy, more so then a more expensive energy bill. Energy efficiency can also bring with it economic benefits, such as lower operating costs. I get that these regulations can be expensive at first, but some of them have the potential to increase corporate profits. For example, look at Google. Google data centers use about six times less overhead energy for every unit of IT equipment energy. What this means is that they are very energy efficient in cooling and heating their data centers. This translates not only into carbon emission reduction, but also cost savings for Google. So it can be a win win.
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Post by ptsdthor on Sept 1, 2022 9:37:40 GMT -8
The sad ramblings of a demented liberal democrat. Take the VR goggles off, your side is going to get trounced in November. 30-40 seat advantage for GOP in the House, AND the Senate goes to the Republicans as well. Biden and the current Democrat Congress have done a $#!+ job. Even a demented person like yourself should be able to see that. Hey. Me again. Back on Earth, a Democrat just won a special election in Alaska, where the seat had been owned by a Republican for 49 years. The Dems are gaining momentum, are going to take the Senate and the fight for the House is on. It's almost like the SCOTUS overturning Roe v. Wade was a one big ass mistake. Ranked Choice Voting is at play. Normally there would be a party primary and an election. Now we have a system where 2nd, 3rd, or 4th voter preferences mean just as much as a first place vote. Weighting the voter's intensity for their 2nd thru Nth vote is unknowable. But giving them the weight of a first place vote is a joke and meant to enable election corruption by other means. I mean really, many times the 3rd or 4th place candidate is nothing but a kook or worse - a plant. In the Alaska case, the total votes for a GOP candidate swamped the Democrat. But because the Dems voted with discipline for the Democrat 1st and the RINO second and Palin last, the Democrat won. Its a mechanism for machine politics to overcome the will of the people.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 1, 2022 12:13:14 GMT -8
Hey. Me again. Back on Earth, a Democrat just won a special election in Alaska, where the seat had been owned by a Republican for 49 years. The Dems are gaining momentum, are going to take the Senate and the fight for the House is on. It's almost like the SCOTUS overturning Roe v. Wade was a one big ass mistake. Ranked Choice Voting is at play. Normally there would be a party primary and an election. Now we have a system where 2nd, 3rd, or 4th voter preferences mean just as much as a first place vote. Weighting the voter's intensity for their 2nd thru Nth vote is unknowable. But giving them the weight of a first place vote is a joke and meant to enable election corruption by other means. I mean really, many times the 3rd or 4th place candidate is nothing but a kook or worse - a plant. In the Alaska case, the total votes for a GOP candidate swamped the Democrat. But because the Dems voted with discipline for the Democrat 1st and the RINO second and Palin last, the Democrat won. Its a mechanism for machine politics to overcome the will of the people. Alaskans voted for ranked choice voting. The larger theme is that Democrats are gaining momentum across the country in races and districts where they were given no chance.
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