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Post by chris92065 on May 2, 2023 7:59:47 GMT -8
Dude on twitter known as #fresnostateyodadog is saying multiple sources have confirmed to him that notre dame and Stanford to the big ten is a done deal. Deal will be announced within the week. If there really is such a twitter handle -- which I highly doubt -- it's not mine. Nah man. I was having fun with you. Just a bit of sarcasm. |
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Post by sdmotohead on May 2, 2023 9:54:45 GMT -8
If there really is such a twitter handle -- which I highly doubt -- it's not mine. Nah man. I was having fun with you. Just a bit of sarcasm. Come on chris, don't you know that trolls don't like to be trolled?! |
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Post by Yoda on May 2, 2023 11:04:44 GMT -8
If there really is such a twitter handle -- which I highly doubt -- it's not mine. Nah man. I was having fun with you. Just a bit of sarcasm. I was pretty certain that that was the case. But I'm an old guy who doesn't do twitter and I've fallen for some stupid (untrue) stuff lately. So I'm trying to error on the side of caution. You know -- like how cautious I am in predicting Fresno's landing spot. LOL... |
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Post by Den60 on May 2, 2023 19:08:08 GMT -8
This is hilarious… State has agreed to terms with the P12 and has a clear understanding of what the B12 is going to offer… I don’t care what your “insider” says… The P12 will get more, in total, for their contract than the B12… Notre Dame isn’t going to the B1G, nor is Stanford… Stanford is worth about $30m per year or way, way under what the B1G schools are getting… and FSU isn’t going to either the P12 or the B12… and… now… you should be banned… Hypothetically... if ND wanted to finally join the B1G, I can see them potentially wanting Stanford added as well for the academic cache. And in that case the B1G would welcome Stanford with wide open arms (& legs, LOL). I'm not sure Stanford wants to join the B1G. Travel will be harder, they place a premium on academics even among their student athletes and they are already uncompetitive in FB and BB in the PAC, they are not into NIL deals nor are the active in the portal market. They have good academic peers in the conference as well. |
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Post by sdmotohead on May 3, 2023 7:03:51 GMT -8
Hypothetically... if ND wanted to finally join the B1G, I can see them potentially wanting Stanford added as well for the academic cache. And in that case the B1G would welcome Stanford with wide open arms (& legs, LOL). I'm not sure Stanford wants to join the B1G. Travel will be harder, they place a premium on academics even among their student athletes and they are already uncompetitive in FB and BB in the PAC, they are not into NIL deals nor are the active in the portal market. They have good academic peers in the conference as well. Agreed. Stanford is all about putting academics first. |
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Post by AZTEC4LIFE1992 on May 3, 2023 7:31:17 GMT -8
Hypothetically... if ND wanted to finally join the B1G, I can see them potentially wanting Stanford added as well for the academic cache. And in that case the B1G would welcome Stanford with wide open arms (& legs, LOL). I'm not sure Stanford wants to join the B1G. Travel will be harder, they place a premium on academics even among their student athletes and they are already uncompetitive in FB and BB in the PAC, they are not into NIL deals nor are the active in the portal market. They have good academic peers in the conference as well. Travel issue will be huge for Stanford as they offer 36 sports, which is 11 more than ucla and 13 more than usc. Sending 36 teams to Rutgers, Maryland and the Midwest will get expensive and effect education |
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Post by standiego on May 3, 2023 7:36:46 GMT -8
Most reports out of BIG schools / Alums want the BIG to hold off expansion until they get a good read on the pros and cons of the UCLA / USC additions -
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Post by Yoda on May 3, 2023 7:54:37 GMT -8
Most reports out of BIG schools / Alums want the BIG to hold off expansion until they get a good read on the pros and cons of the UCLA / USC additions - It's funny how you, and pretty much everybody else (including me) tend to reach analytical conclusions which just happen to match perfectly with out desired outcomes? One of the reasons that Stanford would move, if offered, is to improve their academic associations. The PAC is good, but they have one school that isn't even R1 yet, nevermind being AAU. And the Big 10 has some sort of monster computer system that links all their research together so that each has access to the others work. On a more positive note -- because, as you all know, I'm all about balance and positivity -- I'm hearing that you are in the PAC and, in fact, your inclusion is part of the TV negotiations. So unless something really ugly happens, you're in. =========== Does anyone know how these television contracts work? Suppose in 2025, Notre Dame chooses to go to the Big 10 and Stanford goes along for the ride. What happens to the PAC TV contract that they just spent a year negotiating? Is there some sort of pro rata adjustment – which doesn’t seem right because the Bay Area is the PAC’s #1 market, even after sharing it with Cal? Do they tear it up and start over? Is there a point at which the broadcaster can say, “We no longer want to play?” I used a Stanford defection because that's what we are talking about but it could just as easily be a Big 12 school bolting to the PAC. Nobody knows the details of these contracts -- especially ones that haven't been finalized -- but is there some sort of "industry standard" for what happens when a school leaves? |
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Post by aardvark on May 3, 2023 8:27:57 GMT -8
Most reports out of BIG schools / Alums want the BIG to hold off expansion until they get a good read on the pros and cons of the UCLA / USC additions - It's funny how you, and pretty much everybody else (including me) tend to reach analytical conclusions which just happen to match perfectly with out desired outcomes? One of the reasons that Stanford would move, if offered, is to improve their academic associations. The PAC is good, but they have one school that isn't even R1 yet, nevermind being AAU. And the Big 10 has some sort of monster computer system that links all their research together so that each has access to the others work. On a more positive note -- because, as you all know, I'm all about balance and positivity -- I'm hearing that you are in the PAC and, in fact, your inclusion is part of the TV negotiations. So unless something really ugly happens, you're in. =========== Does anyone know how these television contracts work? Suppose in 2025, Notre Dame chooses to go to the Big 10 and Stanford goes along for the ride. What happens to the PAC TV contract that they just spent a year negotiating? Is there some sort of pro rata adjustment – which doesn’t seem right because the Bay Area is the PAC’s #1 market, even after sharing it with Cal? Do they tear it up and start over? Is there a point at which the broadcaster can say, “We no longer want to play?” I used a Stanford defection because that's what we are talking about but it could just as easily be a Big 12 school bolting to the PAC. Nobody knows the details of these contracts -- especially ones that haven't been finalized -- but is there some sort of "industry standard" for what happens when a school leaves?  |
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Post by namssa on May 3, 2023 8:50:39 GMT -8
Most reports out of BIG schools / Alums want the BIG to hold off expansion until they get a good read on the pros and cons of the UCLA / USC additions - It's funny how you, and pretty much everybody else (including me) tend to reach analytical conclusions which just happen to match perfectly with out desired outcomes? One of the reasons that Stanford would move, if offered, is to improve their academic associations. The PAC is good, but they have one school that isn't even R1 yet, nevermind being AAU. And the Big 10 has some sort of monster computer system that links all their research together so that each has access to the others work. On a more positive note -- because, as you all know, I'm all about balance and positivity -- I'm hearing that you are in the PAC and, in fact, your inclusion is part of the TV negotiations. So unless something really ugly happens, you're in. =========== Does anyone know how these television contracts work? Suppose in 2025, Notre Dame chooses to go to the Big 10 and Stanford goes along for the ride. What happens to the PAC TV contract that they just spent a year negotiating? Is there some sort of pro rata adjustment – which doesn’t seem right because the Bay Area is the PAC’s #1 market, even after sharing it with Cal? Do they tear it up and start over? Is there a point at which the broadcaster can say, “We no longer want to play?” I used a Stanford defection because that's what we are talking about but it could just as easily be a Big 12 school bolting to the PAC. Nobody knows the details of these contracts -- especially ones that haven't been finalized -- but is there some sort of "industry standard" for what happens when a school leaves? That's where the Grant of Rights comes into play. Stanford would not be able to move to the BIG until the existing media deal ends which is currently projected to be anywhere from 2029-2031 (based on a projected 5 to 7 year deal). That is how television contracts work. |
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Post by azteclou on May 3, 2023 8:56:46 GMT -8
Most reports out of BIG schools / Alums want the BIG to hold off expansion until they get a good read on the pros and cons of the UCLA / USC additions - It's funny how you, and pretty much everybody else (including me) tend to reach analytical conclusions which just happen to match perfectly with out desired outcomes? One of the reasons that Stanford would move, if offered, is to improve their academic associations. The PAC is good, but they have one school that isn't even R1 yet, nevermind being AAU. And the Big 10 has some sort of monster computer system that links all their research together so that each has access to the others work. On a more positive note -- because, as you all know, I'm all about balance and positivity -- I'm hearing that you are in the PAC and, in fact, your inclusion is part of the TV negotiations. So unless something really ugly happens, you're in. Well there you go!!! Yoda says we’re in!!! It’s official!!!  |
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Post by myownwords on May 3, 2023 9:01:37 GMT -8
It's funny how you, and pretty much everybody else (including me) tend to reach analytical conclusions which just happen to match perfectly with out desired outcomes? One of the reasons that Stanford would move, if offered, is to improve their academic associations. The PAC is good, but they have one school that isn't even R1 yet, nevermind being AAU. And the Big 10 has some sort of monster computer system that links all their research together so that each has access to the others work. On a more positive note -- because, as you all know, I'm all about balance and positivity -- I'm hearing that you are in the PAC and, in fact, your inclusion is part of the TV negotiations. So unless something really ugly happens, you're in. Well there you go!!! Yoda says we’re in!!! It’s official!!! Yo-DAH, YO-DAH, Yo_DAH! Be still my heart. |
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Post by aztecjeff on May 3, 2023 9:06:13 GMT -8
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Post by jcljorgenson on May 3, 2023 10:15:12 GMT -8
If Big 12 is truly looking into some sort of Mexico expansion, I sincerely hope SDSU runs away as fast as they can. Hard pass! Most likely this is just the Fresno State President trying to differentiate themselves as a candidate. |
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Post by Boise Aztec on May 3, 2023 10:15:38 GMT -8
Most reports out of BIG schools / Alums want the BIG to hold off expansion until they get a good read on the pros and cons of the UCLA / USC additions - It's funny how you, and pretty much everybody else (including me) tend to reach analytical conclusions which just happen to match perfectly with out desired outcomes? One of the reasons that Stanford would move, if offered, is to improve their academic associations. The PAC is good, but they have one school that isn't even R1 yet, nevermind being AAU. And the Big 10 has some sort of monster computer system that links all their research together so that each has access to the others work. On a more positive note -- because, as you all know, I'm all about balance and positivity -- I'm hearing that you are in the PAC and, in fact, your inclusion is part of the TV negotiations. So unless something really ugly happens, you're in. =========== Does anyone know how these television contracts work? Suppose in 2025, Notre Dame chooses to go to the Big 10 and Stanford goes along for the ride. What happens to the PAC TV contract that they just spent a year negotiating? Is there some sort of pro rata adjustment – which doesn’t seem right because the Bay Area is the PAC’s #1 market, even after sharing it with Cal? Do they tear it up and start over? Is there a point at which the broadcaster can say, “We no longer want to play?” I used a Stanford defection because that's what we are talking about but it could just as easily be a Big 12 school bolting to the PAC. Nobody knows the details of these contracts -- especially ones that haven't been finalized -- but is there some sort of "industry standard" for what happens when a school leaves? Stanford will sign a GOR until 2029 so their rights stay with the P12 and so they won’t go to the B12 in two years… and ND will have a new, expensive, media deal signed in the next 6 months… they aren’t going to the B1G… but if they do Stanford can’t come until 2029… |
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Post by Boise Aztec on May 3, 2023 10:18:45 GMT -8
If Big 12 is truly looking into some sort of Mexico expansion, I sincerely hope SDSU runs away as fast as they can. Hard pass! Most likely this is just the Fresno State President trying to differentiate themselves as a candidate. this… B12 has not had any substantial talks with Fresno State… everything else is propaganda… |
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Post by TheSanDiegan on May 3, 2023 10:32:45 GMT -8
Has anyone read the linked source article in the Fresno Bee? Because a cursory search seems to reference the exact same source story that made the rounds at the end of March, i.e., nothing new here. I mean, other than the desire to develop international ties with Mexico; the Frestucky tie in seems like a stretch at best, especially considering the laundry list of contingencies to even warrant actual consideration as mentioned by the author. |
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Post by Boise Aztec on May 3, 2023 10:41:47 GMT -8
Has anyone read the linked source article in the Fresno Bee? Because a cursory search seems to reference the exact same source story that made the rounds at the end of March, i.e., nothing new here. I mean, other than the desire to develop international ties with Mexico; the Frestucky tie in seems like a stretch at best, especially considering the laundry list of contingencies to even warrant actual consideration as mentioned by the author. I read it… and you are correct… BTW… the B12 is aware that the P12 is close to finalizing their deal and Yormark knows that the P12 will control the West coast late night time slot… the B12 will not be expanding west this year… |
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Post by standiego on May 3, 2023 11:40:09 GMT -8
Both the PAC and Big 12 will be letting things leak that are advantageous for their conference
Do not care what some may think but I firmly believe the Big 12 has been trying to add some PAC schools - definitely Plan A -
does an article saying they are looking at any MW school be it Fresno , SDSU , or any others - maybe try to get some of those PAC schools want to make the jump - would not even be surprised if they might add some incentives .
If the PAC does stay together then there could possibly be a Plan B for the Big 12 - to add some additional schools but if they add MW schools does it mean a redo of the original offer - could it lower money they some might think - who knows - ESPN knows what they are willing to offer
All sides are posturing to put themselves in a better position and these rumors will keep popping up until there is an actual deal .
Be careful of the new shiny things being tossed out there - can make your head spin
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Post by AzTex on May 3, 2023 12:33:43 GMT -8
And I'm talking to the kids in my neighborhood. Mostly telling them to get off my lawn. It may be the same with the B12 and Fresno St. |
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