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Post by myownwords on Apr 28, 2023 8:08:10 GMT -8
But hey, at least we have "something", which is more than we've EVER had in the past. IMHO we also have something substantially more important than a LOI…….momentum. THAT, is a very good point. BUT, where is the momentum in the PAC? |
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Post by longtimebooster on Apr 28, 2023 8:24:11 GMT -8
Thread page count: 420.
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Post by myownwords on Apr 28, 2023 8:28:18 GMT -8
Thread page count: 420. Groovy. Tell us more, oh Master Soothsayer. |
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Post by obboy13 on Apr 28, 2023 8:34:01 GMT -8
IMHO we also have something substantially more important than a LOI…….momentum. THAT, is a very good point. BUT, where is the momentum in the PAC? As usual you make a good point. My answer is I don’t know, but trust that the decision makers at SDSU do. Even glaciers have momentum, but it’s not always easy to discern. However, at this point, we also have options gained as a result of a lot of hard work and a couple of lucky breaks. For me the end goal is membership in a P5 conference. For many reasons, I’d prefer the PAC 12, but the Big 12 has one big thing going for it, it’s not the MWC. Time can grind slowly, but I am 100% confident that our time is now….or at least soon.  |
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Post by myownwords on Apr 28, 2023 8:57:24 GMT -8
THAT, is a very good point. BUT, where is the momentum in the PAC? As usual you make a good point. My answer is I don’t know, but trust that the decision makers at SDSU do. Even glaciers have momentum, but it’s not always easy to discern. However, at this point, we also have options gained as a result of a lot of hard work and a couple of lucky breaks. For me the end goal is membership in a P5 conference. For many reasons, I’d prefer the PAC 12, but the Big 12 has one big thing going for it, it’s not the MWC. Time can grind slowly, but I am 100% confident that our time is now….or at least soon. I suspect most of us on this board agree with you. The anti-PAC internet Witch Doctors stirring a cauldron of Mesphisto Stew, seem to be relentless in preventing any PAC momentum. |
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Post by 94sdsu on Apr 28, 2023 9:26:14 GMT -8
As usual you make a good point. My answer is I don’t know, but trust that the decision makers at SDSU do. Even glaciers have momentum, but it’s not always easy to discern. However, at this point, we also have options gained as a result of a lot of hard work and a couple of lucky breaks. For me the end goal is membership in a P5 conference. For many reasons, I’d prefer the PAC 12, but the Big 12 has one big thing going for it, it’s not the MWC. Time can grind slowly, but I am 100% confident that our time is now….or at least soon. I suspect most of us on this board agree with you. The anti-PAC internet Witch Doctors stirring a cauldron of Mesphisto Stew, seem to be relentless in preventing any PAC momentum. I don't think it's internet spin doctors preventing any PAC momentum, it seems to be the PAC itself or the unfortunate situation the potential linear media partners are in with saturation of product and not a lot of extra money (if any) to spend on other scheduling options. Seems like GK completely misread the market. |
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Post by sdcoug on Apr 28, 2023 9:46:04 GMT -8
I suspect most of us on this board agree with you. The anti-PAC internet Witch Doctors stirring a cauldron of Mesphisto Stew, seem to be relentless in preventing any PAC momentum. I don't think it's internet spin doctors preventing any PAC momentum, it seems to be the PAC itself or the unfortunate situation the potential linear media partners are in with saturation of product and not a lot of extra money (if any) to spend on other scheduling options. Seems like GK completely misread the market.Based on what? The rumor mill coming from the B12 spin doctors. There is nothing of fact being reported concerning the quality of the P12 deal. At least now YorMouth's spin doctors are turning their attention to the ACC, since they know the P12's teams are not a reality. But they'll keep tossing darts at the P12 just for fun. |
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Post by azteclou on Apr 28, 2023 9:52:34 GMT -8
I don't think it's internet spin doctors preventing any PAC momentum, it seems to be the PAC itself or the unfortunate situation the potential linear media partners are in with saturation of product and not a lot of extra money (if any) to spend on other scheduling options. Seems like GK completely misread the market.Based on what? The rumor mill coming from the B12 spin doctors. There is nothing of fact being reported concerning the quality of the P12 deal. At least now YorMouth's spin doctors are turning their attention to the ACC, since they know the P12's teams are not a reality. But they'll keep tossing darts at the P12 just for fun. The consensus among the spin doctors is that the PAC-12 media rights deal will suck big time. That is based on what exactly? I’m confident ESPN will be part of the deal for Tier 1 rights, but what percentage will that be? Everybody seems to think the dollars we be lousy but nobody is talking about this scenario… could there be a chance that Apple and Amazon are in a battle over who gets primary streaming rights? If that’s the case wouldn’t the dollar amount go up in the event of a bidding war? I’m not saying this is what’s happening, but to assume because streaming will be a part of the deal that the deal will be lousy is a ridiculous assertion. |
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Post by Yoda on Apr 28, 2023 9:56:20 GMT -8
I don't think it's internet spin doctors preventing any PAC momentum, it seems to be the PAC itself or the unfortunate situation the potential linear media partners are in with saturation of product and not a lot of extra money (if any) to spend on other scheduling options. Seems like GK completely misread the market.Based on what? The rumor mill coming from the B12 spin doctors. There is nothing of fact being reported concerning the quality of the P12 deal. At least now YorMouth's spin doctors are turning their attention to the ACC, since they know the P12's teams are not a reality. But they'll keep tossing darts at the P12 just for fun. Gawd I love absolutists. Again, too many moving parts for such nonsense... Depending on the TV deal, a week from now, 3 PAC schools could bolt for the Big 12 and 2 more for the B1G, or all 10 PAC schools could sign their Grant of Rights. Exciting times... |
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Post by azteccc on Apr 28, 2023 10:19:18 GMT -8
Thanks. I'm sure that at least one of us will. We finally agree on something. |
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Post by azteccc on Apr 28, 2023 10:22:31 GMT -8
Depending on the TV deal, a week from now, 3 PAC schools could bolt for the Big 12 and 2 more for the B1G, No |
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Post by obboy13 on Apr 28, 2023 10:26:16 GMT -8
Based on what? The rumor mill coming from the B12 spin doctors. There is nothing of fact being reported concerning the quality of the P12 deal. At least now YorMouth's spin doctors are turning their attention to the ACC, since they know the P12's teams are not a reality. But they'll keep tossing darts at the P12 just for fun. Gawd I love absolutists. Again, too many moving parts for such nonsense... Depending on the TV deal, a week from now, 3 PAC schools could bolt for the Big 12 and 2 more for the B1G, or all 10 PAC schools could sign their Grant of Rights. Exciting times... A week from now? A week from now you could decide to go with popular opinion and stop posting here. That has as much chance of happening as 3 schools leaving the PAC, or of Fresno State getting a P5 invite. |
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Post by sdmotohead on Apr 28, 2023 10:33:19 GMT -8
 Crying Yoda sighting... |
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Post by aztecfred on Apr 28, 2023 10:53:30 GMT -8
THAT, is a very good point. BUT, where is the momentum in the PAC? As usual you make a good point. My answer is I don’t know, but trust that the decision makers at SDSU do. Even glaciers have momentum, but it’s not always easy to discern. However, at this point, we also have options gained as a result of a lot of hard work and a couple of lucky breaks. For me the end goal is membership in a P5 conference. For many reasons, I’d prefer the PAC 12, but the Big 12 has one big thing going for it, it’s not the MWC. Time can grind slowly, but I am 100% confident that our time is now….or at least soon. And BB |
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Post by hoobs on Apr 28, 2023 10:54:15 GMT -8
Based on what? The rumor mill coming from the B12 spin doctors. There is nothing of fact being reported concerning the quality of the P12 deal. At least now YorMouth's spin doctors are turning their attention to the ACC, since they know the P12's teams are not a reality. But they'll keep tossing darts at the P12 just for fun. Gawd I love absolutists. Again, too many moving parts for such nonsense... Depending on the TV deal, a week from now, 3 PAC schools could bolt for the Big 12 and 2 more for the B1G, or all 10 PAC schools could sign their Grant of Rights. Exciting times... Even as throwing $#!+ at the wall conjecture, that is utterly and completely ridiculous. |
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Post by Cwag on Apr 28, 2023 10:56:39 GMT -8
We really know nothing and are inserting our own emotions and opinions into that void. Human nature is to think the worst in those situations and most of the time we will be wrong. The bottom line is that we will be in the PAC12 or the BIG12 which under any scenario is better than where we are now. Relax and enjoy the ride!
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Post by Yoda on Apr 28, 2023 11:40:55 GMT -8
Gawd I love absolutists. Again, too many moving parts for such nonsense... Depending on the TV deal, a week from now, 3 PAC schools could bolt for the Big 12 and 2 more for the B1G, or all 10 PAC schools could sign their Grant of Rights. Exciting times... Even as throwing $#!+ at the wall conjecture, that is utterly and completely ridiculous. That wasn't a prediction -- it was your worst case scenario. I was just pointing out that things are not certain and can change. And if it makes you feel any better, this isn't about you -- I'm taking the same cautious approach on the Bark Board. To wit: "Again, my opinion is that there is every reason to be optimistic. But there are waaaay too many moving parts for anybody -- or their inside sources -- to be able to do anything more than speculate. BY could be committed to adding FSU, ASU, UA and Colorado -- when the phone rings and UW, UO and UU, seeing the writing on the wall, ask for no strings attached invites as a three-some. Or worse, add SDSU and make it an all or nothing four-some. Then our almost certain deal is, in an instant, very uncertain." Actually, it would be non-existent. You folks are locked in on your best case scenario being the only possible outcome and tend to lash out whenever anyone raises the possibility of any other outcome than the one you want. That's your business, but don't get mad at me for it. |
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Post by Den60 on Apr 28, 2023 11:48:07 GMT -8
Congratulations on what you all seem to think is an offer from the PAC. Meanwhile, as to the TV deal, there are several reports that it is 80% streaming -- the only linear being the ESPN Saturday night game. www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_wCIl_4zXoDamn, bad news for Fresno's B12 aspirations... /photo/1 |
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Post by Den60 on Apr 28, 2023 11:54:20 GMT -8
Thanks. I'm sure that at least one of us will. God, you are doubling down on dumb. You will deserve all the "see, I told you so" comments you will get. I just posted to this but Swaim, a B12 propogandist, is now saying the B12 will pivot to the ACC becuase they see more potential revenue back east. We will go to the PAC, likely with SMU and you will be stuck in the MWC hoping that the B12 doesn't take CSU or Air Force this round paired with Memphis. However, I do hear that Fargo is a nice place to visit some four months out of the year. /photo/1 |
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Post by Den60 on Apr 28, 2023 11:55:52 GMT -8
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