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Post by azteclou on Apr 23, 2023 11:35:36 GMT -8
Univ of Colorado President on expansion from USA Today article and our old friend Brent Shrotenboer. www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/pac12/2023/04/23/deion-sanders-colorado-buffaloes-chancellor-phil-distefano/11718144002/DiStefano would vote on any expansion proposal. "I’d like to have 12 schools," DiStefano said. A big issue, he said, would be whether those schools would bring enough revenue and other benefits to the league to justify their getting an equal cut of the revenue pie. He noted that neither SDSU nor SMU are AAU schools, which is important to the league presidents and chancellors in charge. On the other hand, SDSU “did really well in basketball,” DiStefano said. “They have a new stadium in football, a good Southern California market. Dallas is a good area for recruiting.” He said expansion depends on the new media deal, which is “getting close,” he said. |
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Post by obboy13 on Apr 23, 2023 11:39:54 GMT -8
Man, I come to my AztecMesa board daily for AZTEC talk and can't keep away from some fool espousing his FSU dreams and "objectivity" on an Aztec board, an AZTEC board. Even when blocked I can't get away from FSU crap on an AZTEC board because his replies aren't blocked when others qoute him. Really frustrating to be honest. If I wanted to read something about FSU I'd go to their board and read it, but, I don't, I come here for AZTEC talk. If I wanted unbiased reporting and an "objective" opinion on FSU chances against ours I'd go to news sources, not an overly scared old man who's university is looking to get left behind and thinks he needs to be here spouting his tiresome, old, redundant, regurgitated crap. You're so boring with your "objectivity" like we need to be balanced by your objectivity on our Aztec board. Tiresome and bored, Yoda. Man, just go home already. I don't know that I'm any more objective than anyone else. But by and large, I am responding to questions and comments -- not initiating pro-Fresno posts. How many of my "pro-Fresno" posts in the past week or so have not included a quote from somebody else that I was responding to?Raises hand. Ooh ooh I know...call on me! The answer is the same number of your "pro-Fresno" posts that have proven correct.....zero. Consistency is the mark of a champion.  |
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Post by aztech on Apr 23, 2023 11:57:39 GMT -8
Univ of Colorado President on expansion from USA Today article and our old friend Brent Shrotenboer. www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/pac12/2023/04/23/deion-sanders-colorado-buffaloes-chancellor-phil-distefano/11718144002/DiStefano would vote on any expansion proposal. "I’d like to have 12 schools," DiStefano said. A big issue, he said, would be whether those schools would bring enough revenue and other benefits to the league to justify their getting an equal cut of the revenue pie.
He noted that neither SDSU nor SMU are AAU schools, which is important to the league presidents and chancellors in charge. On the other hand, SDSU “did really well in basketball,” DiStefano said. “They have a new stadium in football, a good Southern California market. Dallas is a good area for recruiting.” He said expansion depends on the new media deal, which is “getting close,” he said. I say bull shit on that issue. The 3 State schools in the Pac have always been and still are only R1 just as we're close to being, sooner than later. |
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Post by namssa on Apr 23, 2023 12:15:43 GMT -8
He also said “there’s a very good possibility” the next deal will bring in per-school revenues ranking third among the Power 5 conferences, ahead of the Big 12 and Atlantic Coast conferences. That is another President/Chancellor saying similar things. They must be getting word that the Media deal's pay will be fine.
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Post by gocoaztec on Apr 23, 2023 12:59:09 GMT -8
He also said “there’s a very good possibility” the next deal will bring in per-school revenues ranking third among the Power 5 conferences, ahead of the Big 12 and Atlantic Coast conferences. That is another President/Chancellor saying similar things. They must be getting word that the Media deal's pay will be fine. And he said “He said expansion depends on the new media deal, which is “getting close,” he said.” I see that they’ve learned not to give a specific timetable - is “getting close” a week, a month, or 6 months? |
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Post by sancarlosaztec on Apr 23, 2023 14:06:23 GMT -8
Well, it is fortunate that Dodd doesn’t really know anything either because Fresno would prove itself a fantastic add to the Big12. I would love to see Fresno in the big12 and SDSU in the PAC. I think long term that is good outcome for both conferences and for both CSU schools. I agree. It would be a fun rivalry game every year. It would make OOC scheduling better. I believe the same! It would be really cool to play Fresno for the old oil can when the two schools are members of different p5 conferences! |
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Post by Yoda on Apr 23, 2023 14:12:51 GMT -8
I agree. It would be a fun rivalry game every year. It would make OOC scheduling better. I believe the same! It would be really cool to play Fresno for the old oil can when the two schools are members of different p5 conferences! I doubt that we would tho. We'd be too busy trying to establish national reputations to want to squander OOC games on each other. |
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Post by dirtball on Apr 23, 2023 14:38:11 GMT -8
I believe the same! It would be really cool to play Fresno for the old oil can when the two schools are members of different p5 conferences! I doubt that we would tho. We'd be too busy trying to establish national reputations to want to squander OOC games on each other. Lololol. |
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Post by Den60 on Apr 23, 2023 14:39:01 GMT -8
Why do you believe that Denis Dodd and JD are friends let alone very good friends? I know a lot of things that I can't reveal. I've been around a long time. That said, "very" is a judgment and people may or may not agree that the level of friendship reaches the "very" level. I probably shouldn't have said "very" as it doesn't really matter. Friends alone is sufficient to suggest whose bucket of water Dodd might be willing to carry. And to be clear, he isn't necessarily carrying anybody's bucket of water -- it just may be his own poor reporting skills. I know lots of things. For example, I know the names of your expansion consultants. If anybody else does, message me and I can give you enough detail, without naming them, that you know I'm not blowing smoke. You cannot divulge the "source" who says Dodd and Wicker are friends? What a load of crap. And there was an article months ago about who SDSU was using as consultants for expansion, it isn't actually inside information and Bob Thompson was mentioned in that article as well. Not going to look for it now. Doing some remodel work and taking a break watching the Padres but you are so full of crap that it's coming out of your ears. |
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Post by Den60 on Apr 23, 2023 14:40:24 GMT -8
"I’d like to have 12 schools," DiStefano said. That puts ASU, UA, and CU in the expansion camp. He brought up AAU, so maybe he wants Rice and Tulane. What I also thought was interesting was this part of the article, "He also said Colorado has had far more alumni engagement at football games in California cities than it ever had in Big 12 cities." Yeah, and put the stop on Colorado going to the B12 as well. |
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Post by Den60 on Apr 23, 2023 14:43:00 GMT -8
What I've heard is that the Big 12 isn't interested in Utah or San Diego State. They already have a presence in the relatively small state of Utah and BYU doesn't want them. As for SDSU, you never showed any serious interest until it began to look like the PAC was tenuous, there were never any serious discussions (perhaps until recently), your AD pissed them off with his attempt to parlay the Big 12 option into a full TV payout from the PAC, and there is no offer (conditional or otherwise). Obviously that is completely at odds with what you are hearing. I'm not surprised that Colorado hasn't been offered as I think that they are a back up option. Our TV ratings are almost double theirs (of course that is pre-Prime) and there is a concern that Prime could leave quickly -- when the big money comes calling. My understanding is that the Big 12's interest is in 1) ASU 2) Fresno State & 3) Arizona. The fourth is tbd -- it could be Colorado. It could be UConn and, if the PAC doesn't expand, I think it could be you. It makes too much sense to let a grudge keep them out of SoCal and, obviously, your basketball success is appealing to a conference that wants to dominate in that sport. For all the good news, the Colorado chancellor seemed to say that expansion -- or at least a full share of the TV revenue -- depended on the TV contract. "A big issue, he said, would be whether those schools would bring enough revenue and other benefits to the league to justify their getting an equal cut of the revenue pie.... He said expansion depends on the new media deal, which is “getting close,” he said." To me, it sounds increasingly like the conference will hold together and add you... That would be awesome for you. LOL. You are a piece of work. Fresno is #2 on the B12's list?  |
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Post by Den60 on Apr 23, 2023 14:46:57 GMT -8
Some good info on Fresno for Yoda in this article. Ouch!!! Fresno State: Somehow, calls from the Fresno State administration to the Big 12 have been misconstrued as interest from the Big 12. At this point, there is no Big 12 interest in the Bulldogs, seemingly not even as a fallback option if other expansion falls through. Even with Yormark desiring a presence in the Pacific Time Zone, Fresno State doesn't move the needle with San Diego State and Pac-12 schools possibly still in play. Complicating matters: Try to imagine Stanford in the same Pac-12 with Fresno State. Fresno St is trying to build up them going to the B12 so they can pass a spending bill to improve their athletic facilities. Fresno is going nowhere unless it is with us in a scenario where the PAC stays together and doesn't expand. The possibility of that happening in almost negligible. |
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Post by Den60 on Apr 23, 2023 14:52:58 GMT -8
Man, I come to my AztecMesa board daily for AZTEC talk and can't keep away from some fool espousing his FSU dreams and "objectivity" on an Aztec board, an AZTEC board. Even when blocked I can't get away from FSU crap on an AZTEC board because his replies aren't blocked when others qoute him. Really frustrating to be honest. If I wanted to read something about FSU I'd go to their board and read it, but, I don't, I come here for AZTEC talk. If I wanted unbiased reporting and an "objective" opinion on FSU chances against ours I'd go to news sources, not an overly scared old man who's university is looking to get left behind and thinks he needs to be here spouting his tiresome, old, redundant, regurgitated crap. You're so boring with your "objectivity" like we need to be balanced by your objectivity on our Aztec board. Tiresome and bored, Yoda. Man, just go home already. I don't know that I'm any more objective than anyone else. But by and large, I am responding to questions and comments -- not initiating pro-Fresno posts. How many of my "pro-Fresno" posts in the past week or so have not included a quote from somebody else that I was responding to? You just claimed "insider knowledge" that has been public for months now? You have absolutely no credibility and no sources with any real inside information. You are lying your ass off trying to deny the fact that we are heading to good things and you are staying put. Again, you don't get to the B12 unless it is with us and the PAC doesn't expand or break up. God man, you just look pathetic. |
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Post by Den60 on Apr 23, 2023 14:58:01 GMT -8
Univ of Colorado President on expansion from USA Today article and our old friend Brent Shrotenboer. www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/pac12/2023/04/23/deion-sanders-colorado-buffaloes-chancellor-phil-distefano/11718144002/DiStefano would vote on any expansion proposal. "I’d like to have 12 schools," DiStefano said. A big issue, he said, would be whether those schools would bring enough revenue and other benefits to the league to justify their getting an equal cut of the revenue pie.
He noted that neither SDSU nor SMU are AAU schools, which is important to the league presidents and chancellors in charge. On the other hand, SDSU “did really well in basketball,” DiStefano said. “They have a new stadium in football, a good Southern California market. Dallas is a good area for recruiting.” He said expansion depends on the new media deal, which is “getting close,” he said. I say bull shit on that issue. The 3 State schools in the Pac have always been and still are only R1 just as we're close to being, sooner than later. I didn't read that as the PAC wouldn't add a non AAU school. You are right, the PAC state schools are all R1 and, it appears, Oregon may lose its AAU association. The only AAU currently available are Tulane and Rice. I think Tulane gets added to the PAC the next round because the PAC may look at B12 schools to poach. Kansas has made it known they would prefer to be in a better academic conference. |
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Post by Yoda on Apr 23, 2023 14:59:51 GMT -8
Fresno St is trying to build up them going to the B12 so they can pass a spending bill to improve their athletic facilities. Fresno is going nowhere unless it is with us in a scenario where the PAC stays together and doesn't expand. The possibility of that happening in almost negligible. That's the kind of crap that is false but becomes urban legend real quick when spread over the internet. We will know our lot in the expansion game within the next 30 to, at most, 90 days. The election will be next June and they won't even begin collecting petition signatures until March. So the issue will have long since been decided before they even begin to collect signatures, nevermind vote on the matter. There is absolutely no connection between talk of us going to the Big 12 and that ballot issue. |
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Post by Den60 on Apr 23, 2023 15:00:12 GMT -8
I doubt that we would tho. We'd be too busy trying to establish national reputations to want to squander OOC games on each other. Lololol. God, I think we've reached the get out the strait jacket and let's go to the rubber room point now. Yoda is certifiable. |
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Post by Den60 on Apr 23, 2023 15:06:30 GMT -8
Fresno St is trying to build up them going to the B12 so they can pass a spending bill to improve their athletic facilities. Fresno is going nowhere unless it is with us in a scenario where the PAC stays together and doesn't expand. The possibility of that happening in almost negligible. That's the kind of crap that is false but becomes urban legend real quick when spread over the internet. We will know our lot in the expansion game within the next 30 to, at most, 90 days. The election will be next June and they won't even begin collecting petition signatures until March. So the issue will have long since been decided before they even begin to collect signatures, nevermind vote on the matter. There is absolutely no connection between talk of us going to the Big 12 and that ballot issue. I guess I didn't put it clear enough for you. Fresno is going nowhere this round, you will remain in the MWC. The only way you get to the B12 this round is on our coattails if the PAC stands pat and doesn't expand. Do I need to bring out the crayons? Your president knows this and is trying to use this self generated talk of going to the B12 to try to make you somewhat attractive in 2030. |
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Post by standiego on Apr 23, 2023 15:24:45 GMT -8
Suggest SDSU fans stay focused on what PAC officials are saying and avoid being deflected by the Chatter / Shiny or Tarnished Down Objects being offered up by any one in any way related to Big 12 so called experts or those who are hoping to get into the Big 12 - wish them well and keep your eye on the Prize
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Post by myownwords on Apr 23, 2023 15:39:54 GMT -8
Suggest SDSU fans stay focused on what PAC officials are saying and avoid being deflected by the Chatter / Shiny or Tarnished Down Objects being offered up by any one in any way related to Big 12 so called experts or those who are hoping to get into the Big 12 - wish them well and keep your eye on the Prize Good advice Standiego. Let's see if we can re-focus on "US" and the PAC, leaving fringe actors to flounder in the Fresno Fracas. |
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Post by Yoda on Apr 23, 2023 15:44:45 GMT -8
That's the kind of crap that is false but becomes urban legend real quick when spread over the internet. We will know our lot in the expansion game within the next 30 to, at most, 90 days. The election will be next June and they won't even begin collecting petition signatures until March. So the issue will have long since been decided before they even begin to collect signatures, nevermind vote on the matter. There is absolutely no connection between talk of us going to the Big 12 and that ballot issue. I guess I didn't put it clear enough for you. Fresno is going nowhere this round, you will remain in the MWC. The only way you get to the B12 this round is on our coattails if the PAC stands pat and doesn't expand. Do I need to bring out the crayons? Your president knows this and is trying to use this self generated talk of going to the B12 to try to make you somewhat attractive in 2030. You know I'm the one who gets called a troll, but I've been a hell of a lot nicer to you folks than you have been to me. I haven't said that you are unworthy of P-5; I've said that you were worthy from the days of Don Coryell. I've not said that you will never get out of the MWC. I haven't ridiculed you as being our inferiors. I haven't suggested the need for crayons because you were too stupid (implied, not stated) to get it. I've said that I value the rivalry -- for me, a 50 year rivalry. I've expressed the hope that we both go to the Big 12 to continue that rivalry but if we don't, I've expressed the wish that you get into the PAC, as most of you seem to want. I'm a nice guy -- but you guys have been pretty crappy to me. And that's okay -- it's your board. I know what I signed up for; I'm a big boy and I can take it. I bring it up, however, because we're going to get our invitation to the Big 12 before you get your's to the PAC 12. And, while I'm not going to be the one to feed it to you, just think for a minute about how much crow you guys are going to have to eat when that happens. And sorry, but I've never seen anybody who deserved it more. |
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