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Post by hoobs on Apr 20, 2023 9:04:22 GMT -8
My concern about going to the Pac 12 is what if we do so and then Washington and Oregon leave? Without UCLA and USC, have to keep Washington and Oregon or else the conference becomes largely irrelevant yes? Washington and Oregon will sign the same Grant of Rights as everyone else in the PAC (likely 6-ish years), so the PAC would be guaranteed to remain intact for the duration of the GoR. |
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Post by Den60 on Apr 20, 2023 9:16:05 GMT -8
There's a fine line between being a visionary and a lunatic. The debate rages as to which side of the line I call home. You consider yourself to be a visionary now? |
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Post by Den60 on Apr 20, 2023 9:23:11 GMT -8
My concern about going to the Pac 12 is what if we do so and then Washington and Oregon leave? Without UCLA and USC, have to keep Washington and Oregon or else the conference becomes largely irrelevant yes? I have no idea what the timing would be but I do think that the B1G will end up taking two more PAC schools. One will be Washington. The other could be either Oregon or Cal. They don't really need two members in the Pacific Northwest -- nor do they need two schools in the Bay Area. But they do need two more schools so that USC and UCLA can cut down their travel a little. I think that they will pick Cal over Oregon because it is one of the world's premier research institutions -- and the Big 10 would like to tap into it with their joint computer system. In any event, I think your concern is legitimate. USC doesn't want any more PAC members to the B1G and the existing B1G schools aren't too happy about having to make two western trips per year in Football. Didn't you see where tOSU cancelled its games against Washington? Cal had the UCBOR beg the B1G for admittance back in December and were told a very, solid "no." There are many many attractive schools in Notre Dame and ACC schools that the B1G would take before taking another western school. They got their "prize" in LA. |
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Post by aardvark on Apr 20, 2023 9:51:02 GMT -8
Indeed. Another way to look at it would be if you had a whole pizza with 10 slices, and took 7 slices for yourself and left the rest on the table. In this example, you'd have literally left 30% (3 slices) on the table. But what if the train was traveling at 40 MPH? But why do we drive on a parkway, and park in a driveway? |
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Post by sdmotohead on Apr 20, 2023 9:57:47 GMT -8
There's a fine line between being a visionary and a lunatic. The debate rages as to which side of the line I call home. You consider yourself to be a visionary now? We will now refer to all Yoda posts as being Yodaganda. |
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Post by myownwords on Apr 20, 2023 9:57:59 GMT -8
But what if the train was traveling at 40 MPH? But why do we drive on a parkway, and park in a driveway? Did you walk to school, or bring your lunch? |
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Post by aardvark on Apr 20, 2023 10:09:24 GMT -8
But why do we drive on a parkway, and park in a driveway? Did you walk to school, or bring your lunch? Yes. |
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Post by myownwords on Apr 20, 2023 10:24:48 GMT -8
Did you walk to school, or bring your lunch? Yes. Good answer. |
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Post by aztecfred on Apr 20, 2023 10:53:19 GMT -8
What does " up to 50% off and more" mean?
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Post by SD Johnny on Apr 20, 2023 11:23:11 GMT -8
My concern about going to the Pac 12 is what if we do so and then Washington and Oregon leave? Without UCLA and USC, have to keep Washington and Oregon or else the conference becomes largely irrelevant yes? I don’t think the Big Ten will take them as they will have better ACC options in the next decade but even if they did it won’t be til the end of the soon to be signed Grant of Rights likely around 2030 or so. Contrary to what Yoda thinks, if/when the Pac stays together I do not see the big 12 adding any other teams unless it’s us as we are the only addition that would hurt the Pac 12 long-term. There is no need for the Big 12 to add filler schools at this time and they will want to have spots available and not be bloated ahead of the coming conference Armageddon in 2035 or so. So if we go to the Pac we’d have been marinating in Power 5 juices for 6 years or so before this situation arises again. The Big 12 wants us now so what’s to say they wouldn’t want us at that time too after the G5 stink has worn off? Southern California is a crucial media piece now and will still be the next cycle. |
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Post by myownwords on Apr 20, 2023 11:33:20 GMT -8
You consider yourself to be a visionary now? We will now refer to all Yoda posts as being Yodaganda. …or Yoda Yada? |
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Post by Cwag on Apr 20, 2023 12:23:04 GMT -8
We will now refer to all Yoda posts as being Yodaganda. …or Yoda Yada? Please give poor Yoda a break. He is a fan of a team that is located in a place where the pioneers who ran out of money had to settle. They are trying to make the best of a bad situation. The good news is that Fresno is the Raisin and Manure capital of the world so there is that. |
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Post by sdmotohead on Apr 20, 2023 12:46:27 GMT -8
Please give poor Yoda a break. He is a fan of a team that is located in a place where the pioneers who ran out of money had to settle. They are trying to make the best of a bad situation. The good news is that Fresno is the Raisin and Manure capital of the world so there is that. I disagree. Yoda needs to give US a break, a break from all of this trolling. |
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Post by Den60 on Apr 20, 2023 12:50:12 GMT -8
My concern about going to the Pac 12 is what if we do so and then Washington and Oregon leave? Without UCLA and USC, have to keep Washington and Oregon or else the conference becomes largely irrelevant yes? I don’t think the Big Ten will take them as they will have better ACC options in the next decade but even if they did it won’t be til the end of the soon to be signed Grant of Rights likely around 2030 or so. Contrary to what Yoda thinks, if/when the Pac stays together I do not see the big 12 adding any other teams unless it’s us as we are the only addition that would hurt the Pac 12 long-term. There is no need for the Big 12 to add filler schools at this time and they will want to have spots available and not be bloated ahead of the coming conference Armageddon in 2035 or so. So if we go to the Pac we’d have been marinating in Power 5 juices for 6 years or so before this situation arises again. The Big 12 wants us now so what’s to say they wouldn’t want us at that time too after the G5 stink has worn off? Southern California is a crucial media piece now and will still be the next cycle. If the B12 takes Fresno and SDSU goes to an intact PAC, then that is when we can confirm that the B12 is in trouble. |
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Post by Yoda on Apr 20, 2023 13:20:28 GMT -8
I don’t think the Big Ten will take them as they will have better ACC options in the next decade but even if they did it won’t be til the end of the soon to be signed Grant of Rights likely around 2030 or so. Contrary to what Yoda thinks, if/when the Pac stays together I do not see the big 12 adding any other teams unless it’s us as we are the only addition that would hurt the Pac 12 long-term. There is no need for the Big 12 to add filler schools at this time and they will want to have spots available and not be bloated ahead of the coming conference Armageddon in 2035 or so. So if we go to the Pac we’d have been marinating in Power 5 juices for 6 years or so before this situation arises again. The Big 12 wants us now so what’s to say they wouldn’t want us at that time too after the G5 stink has worn off? Southern California is a crucial media piece now and will still be the next cycle. If the B12 takes Fresno and SDSU goes to an intact PAC, then that is when we can confirm that the B12 is in trouble. You guys are starting your victory dance and you don't even know what the score is. I'm afraid that if you're right -- and you end up in the PAC while we end up in the MWC -- that you're going to hurt yourselves in the celebration. Of course, if we end up in the Big 12 and you end up in the MWC, I'm still afraid that you're going to hurt yourselves. So no matter what happens, be careful. |
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Post by aardvark on Apr 20, 2023 14:18:38 GMT -8
If the B12 takes Fresno and SDSU goes to an intact PAC, then that is when we can confirm that the B12 is in trouble. You guys are starting your victory dance and you don't even know what the score is. I'm afraid that if you're right -- and you end up in the PAC while we end up in the MWC -- that you're going to hurt yourselves in the celebration. Of course, if we end up in the Big 12 and you end up in the MWC, I'm still afraid that you're going to hurt yourselves. So no matter what happens, be careful.  |
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Post by obboy13 on Apr 20, 2023 15:35:41 GMT -8
Can you post a link where Thompson said that? I follow him on Twitter and have never seen him say that. Not calling you a liar, of course, just would like to see for myself even if I'm not from Missouri. I should clarify. Thompson said that the Big 12 did not leave money on the table. That the story is coming from the PAC was my observation, not his -- and by "from the PAC", I meant the PAC media. Thompson's comments were made during a podcast. I don't remember which one; it was probably two months ago. Sorry I can't be more specific. Well for the zero to one person who trust your takes, that's perfect corroboration. For the rest of us, clarify and dissemble all you want, but you got caught trying to pawn off your belief as fact. The answer to the question is simple, can you provide a link...no you can't. |
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Post by AzTex on Apr 20, 2023 15:43:50 GMT -8
I should clarify. Thompson said that the Big 12 did not leave money on the table. That the story is coming from the PAC was my observation, not his -- and by "from the PAC", I meant the PAC media. Thompson's comments were made during a podcast. I don't remember which one; it was probably two months ago. Sorry I can't be more specific. Well for the zero to one person who trust your takes, that's perfect corroboration. For the rest of us, clarify and dissemble all you want, but you got caught trying to pawn off your belief as fact. The answer to the question is simple, can you provide a link...no you can't. That's his story and he's sticking to it. Apologies to country music fans everywhere. |
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Post by PAC12 Aztec on Apr 20, 2023 16:00:41 GMT -8
You guys are starting your victory dance and you don't even know what the score is. I'm afraid that if you're right -- and you end up in the PAC while we end up in the MWC -- that you're going to hurt yourselves in the celebration. Of course, if we end up in the Big 12 and you end up in the MWC, I'm still afraid that you're going to hurt yourselves. So no matter what happens, be careful. If we go to the PAC, you are probably right, and I will most likely hurt myself because of my excitement. There is a high probability some muscle will get pulled, strained or an old injury will get aggravated. This is most likely the first time you have been right about anything Yoda and some of us will hurt ourselves with excitement. Well done Yada Yada Yoda! I appreciate the concern and I will attempt to be careful. However, I am going to be jumping for joy. My vertical is currently -.1 inches but I may get a little higher off the ground when I am jumping for joy soon. |
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Post by wolfstartec on Apr 20, 2023 17:02:26 GMT -8
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