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Post by Boise Aztec on Apr 12, 2023 18:24:12 GMT -8
Can I make stuff up if I am not in the basement? Asking for a friend…😂
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Apr 12, 2023 18:30:06 GMT -8
Can I make stuff up if I am not in the basement? Asking for a friend…😂 Oh, ya, that would be the "Ma, the meatloaf." alpha version. |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Apr 12, 2023 18:34:05 GMT -8
Here it is, the CU AD is the problem. This crowd is too much.
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Post by AzTex on Apr 12, 2023 18:36:25 GMT -8
Can I make stuff up if I am not in the basement? Asking for a friend…😂 Why not? Everyone else does. |
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Post by namssa on Apr 12, 2023 18:46:22 GMT -8
This was only 3 weeks ago. LOL
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Post by Den60 on Apr 12, 2023 18:59:40 GMT -8
Here it is, the CU AD is the problem. This crowd is too much. Another basement dweller... |
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Post by Den60 on Apr 12, 2023 19:01:55 GMT -8
Here is the original tweet and response:  |
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Post by zurac315 on Apr 12, 2023 19:30:04 GMT -8
Ask a person at random what they think of San Diego and it’s almost universally positive. Ask a person at random what they think about Fresno and it’s almost universally negative. Why so much Fresno hate? |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Apr 12, 2023 19:56:08 GMT -8
The charlatans are able to keep going because they have a following that wants to believe. It’s actually worse than Wrestling Fans.
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Post by Yoda on Apr 12, 2023 20:08:48 GMT -8
Ask a person at random what they think of San Diego and it’s almost universally positive. Ask a person at random what they think about Fresno and it’s almost universally negative. Why so much Fresno hate? This is a rainbows and unicorns board and the loyalists don't like it much when an outsider attempts to inject a dose of reality. The idea that Fresno State might be an equally or even more qualified expansion candidate is outside the realm of possibility and must be refuted. I, and my school, must be ridiculed. While I'm not a troll, I do admit to being a bit of a pain in the butt. I don't just say my piece once and leave but hang around and attempt to debate. |
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Post by adfrank on Apr 12, 2023 20:26:47 GMT -8
This is a rainbows and unicorns board and the loyalists don't like it much when an outsider attempts to inject a dose of reality. The idea that Fresno State might be an equally or even more qualified expansion candidate is outside the realm of possibility and must be refuted. I, and my school, must be ridiculed. While I'm not a troll, I do admit to being a bit of a pain in the butt. I don't just say my piece once and leave but hang around and attempt to debate. And THAT'S reality? Fresno is as desirable or MORE than SDSU right now? And you're the realist? Used to respect you. Now, you're the one that has lost touch with reality. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Apr 12, 2023 20:34:51 GMT -8
This is a rainbows and unicorns board and the loyalists don't like it much when an outsider attempts to inject a dose of reality. The idea that Fresno State might be an equally or even more qualified expansion candidate is outside the realm of possibility and must be refuted. I, and my school, must be ridiculed. While I'm not a troll, I do admit to being a bit of a pain in the butt. I don't just say my piece once and leave but hang around and attempt to debate. OK, let's be real here. Which school has the better academic standing? Which school has the better Basketball program? Which school is in the larger city? Which school is in the nicer city? The football programs are relatively equal over the last decade (close enough), so that's pretty much a wash. Be honest, in what areas is Fresno State equal or superior to SDSU? Specifics and reasons, please, otherwise you need to stop. |
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Post by adfrank on Apr 12, 2023 20:59:54 GMT -8
This is a rainbows and unicorns board and the loyalists don't like it much when an outsider attempts to inject a dose of reality. The idea that Fresno State might be an equally or even more qualified expansion candidate is outside the realm of possibility and must be refuted. I, and my school, must be ridiculed. While I'm not a troll, I do admit to being a bit of a pain in the butt. I don't just say my piece once and leave but hang around and attempt to debate. OK, let's be real here. Which school has the better academic standing? Which school has the better Basketball program? Which school is in the larger city? Which school is in the nicer city? The football programs are relatively equal over the last decade (close enough), so that's pretty much a wash. Be honest, in what areas is Fresno State equal or superior to SDSU? Specifics and reasons, please, otherwise you need to stop. Fresno maybe had a better 10 year football run. However, THE STADIUM and surrounding area. More importantly than nicer city, bigger city...... WHERE is your city? You realize SDSU is in Southern California right? UCLA and USC are gone. So Cal football is now ONLY in the Big 10. Big 12 should have capitalized before, but blew it. There's no reality in which Fresno is even comparable as an expansion candidate. There just isn't. Some of that is luck with the Big 10 taking those schools, some of it is all the great things being done by SDSU. THAT my friend is reality. |
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Post by jdaztec on Apr 12, 2023 21:07:25 GMT -8
I like the fact that Yoda is loyal to Fresno and The Bulldogs and I love the fact that so many of us care about our Aztecs.I can appreciate both.
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Post by Yoda on Apr 12, 2023 21:49:11 GMT -8
OK, let's be real here. Which school has the better academic standing? Which school has the better Basketball program? Which school is in the larger city? Which school is in the nicer city? The football programs are relatively equal over the last decade (close enough), so that's pretty much a wash. Be honest, in what areas is Fresno State equal or superior to SDSU? Specifics and reasons, please, otherwise you need to stop. -- Apparently, your's does. And that's important too, because when the guys get together to buy consumables and watch the game, the academic standing of the two schools is paramount in their choice of which football game to watch. Which school has the better Basketball program? -- Obviously, your's does. And that's important too, because when the guys get together to buy consumables and watch the game, the quality of the MBB program at the two schools is paramount in their choice of which football game to watch. Which school is in the larger city? -- Your's is. And that's important too, because when the guys get together to buy consumables and watch the game, the size of the city in which the two schools are located is paramount in their choice of which football game to watch. Which school is in the nicer city? -- Apparently, your's is -- And that's important too, because when the guys get together to buy consumables and watch the game, how nice the environment of the city in which the two schools are located is paramount in their choice of which football game to watch. The football programs are relatively equal over the last decade (close enough), so that's pretty much a wash. We've won 7 of the past 10 games. I would think that you'd find that far from "close enough". Oh and we're on a five game winning streak vs. UCLA -- you're 3-25 lifetime. Be honest, in what areas is Fresno State equal or superior to SDSU? Specifics and reasons, please, otherwise you need to stop. I don't really want to do this again right now. Every time I do, people bellyache that I keep saying the same things over and over again. But in short, think fan engagement. We have a bigger television market than you do. Our ratings are better than yours are. You compete with USC and UCLA for eyeballs -- we compete with Stanford and Cal (guffaw). We generate more advertising revenue than you do. Your population within say 50 miles of the stadium is 5, maybe 10 times ours -- yet we outdraw you in attendance. Expansion is about generating TV revenue for the conference and fan engagement, not academic standing or which city is "nicer", is what has the TV folks in our corner. (It doesn't hurt that we are an ag school joining a conference with several ag schools in it.) I'm about 90% certain that we will get into the Big 12 in the next month or so. I think that the PAC is about to lose 2-3 schools and, if they do, then you may or may not be invited to join us. It depends on who else wants in. But your admin screwed up -- they valued academic snobbery over conference stability. And academic snobbery doesn't buy beer. EDIT: Correction. I'm about 90% certain that we will get into the Big 12 in the next month or so -- provided that Oregon and Washington do not bolt for the Big 12. If that happens, then all bets are off and we're both screwed. 4/13 12:46 PM. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Apr 12, 2023 22:19:51 GMT -8
OK, let's be real here. Which school has the better academic standing? Which school has the better Basketball program? Which school is in the larger city? Which school is in the nicer city? The football programs are relatively equal over the last decade (close enough), so that's pretty much a wash. Be honest, in what areas is Fresno State equal or superior to SDSU? Specifics and reasons, please, otherwise you need to stop. -- Apparently, your's does. And that's important too, because when the guys get together to buy consumables and watch the game, the academic standing of the two schools is paramount in their choice of which football game to watch. Which school has the better Basketball program? -- Obviously, your's does. And that's important too, because when the guys get together to buy consumables and watch the game, the quality of the MBB program at the two schools is paramount in their choice of which football game to watch. Which school is in the larger city? -- Your's is. And that's important too, because when the guys get together to buy consumables and watch the game, the size of the city in which the two schools are located is paramount in their choice of which football game to watch. Which school is in the nicer city? -- Apparently, your's is -- And that's important too, because when the guys get together to buy consumables and watch the game, how nice the environment of the city in which the two schools are located is paramount in their choice of which football game to watch. The football programs are relatively equal over the last decade (close enough), so that's pretty much a wash. We've won 7 of the past 10 games. I would think that you'd find that far from "close enough". Oh and we're on a five game winning streak vs. UCLA -- you're 3-25 lifetime. Be honest, in what areas is Fresno State equal or superior to SDSU? Specifics and reasons, please, otherwise you need to stop. I don't really want to do this again right now. Every time I do, people bellyache that I keep saying the same things over and over again. But in short, think fan engagement. We have a bigger television market than you do. Our ratings are better than yours are. You compete with USC and UCLA for eyeballs -- we compete with Stanford and Cal (guffaw). We generate more advertising revenue than you do. Your population within say 50 miles of the stadium is 5, maybe 10 times ours -- yet we outdraw you in attendance. Expansion is about generating TV revenue for the conference and fan engagement, not academic standing or which city is "nicer", is what has the TV folks in our corner. (It doesn't hurt that we are an ag school joining a conference with several ag schools in it.) I'm about 90% certain that we will get into the Big 12 in the next month or so. I think that the PAC is about to lose 2-3 schools and, if they do, then you may or may not be invited to join us. It depends on who else wants in. But your admin screwed up -- they valued academic snobbery over conference stability. And academic snobbery doesn't buy beer. Let's talk media markets. Yours is only larger IF you count areas that aren't really part of your market. Fresno-Visalia is ranked 53rd. San Diego is 30th. You do have ancillary markets, but they tend to go for Cal and Stanford - or USC and UCLA. You really overestimate Fresno's market. The Big 12 won't. Location, location, location. Fresno is on the corner of No and Where. It's a market that the big boys don't care about. Fresno, Bakersfield - markets that are overlooked and taken for granted by the big boys. That's not snobbery on our part, it's just how the big boys look at it. What value does Fresno State bring to the Big 12 that they need. Not much. If they want California they want the big markets. Southern California or the Bay Area. San Diego State has a state of the art new football stadium We've had one of the best basketball arenas for 25 years. What does Fresno have? Personally? I'd love to see Fresno come to the PAC with us. I think, long term, that would be great. Continue the rivalry, and boost both schools. However, there is very little chance that Fresno gets into the PAC (short of 2 more schools leaving, because they would go to the Big 12, and that would leave you out of the Big 12 for sure). If you don't think that there is a place and a need for a major West Coast conference you're really fooling yourself. The West Coast schools don't want to be lumped in with the midwest schools. There is NO fit there, culturally. The West Coast schools would be seen as arrogant second class citizens to the rest of the Big 12. It would be a disaster for the West Coast schools. The PAC will survive and thrive. Just like the Big 12 survived the loss of Texas and Oklahoma when everyone was predicting doom and gloom. San Diego State belongs in the PAC. Travel is better (which is a huge deal for all sports that aren't football), and the cultural fit is infinitely better. The money will be close. One day, not too long from now, we'll have the official invite and the media deal announced. Then people will be saying how well the PAC positioned itself. A lot of people are going to have a lot of crow to eat. |
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Post by Boise Aztec on Apr 12, 2023 22:53:43 GMT -8
OK, let's be real here. Which school has the better academic standing? Which school has the better Basketball program? Which school is in the larger city? Which school is in the nicer city? The football programs are relatively equal over the last decade (close enough), so that's pretty much a wash. Be honest, in what areas is Fresno State equal or superior to SDSU? Specifics and reasons, please, otherwise you need to stop. -- Apparently, your's does. And that's important too, because when the guys get together to buy consumables and watch the game, the academic standing of the two schools is paramount in their choice of which football game to watch. Which school has the better Basketball program? -- Obviously, your's does. And that's important too, because when the guys get together to buy consumables and watch the game, the quality of the MBB program at the two schools is paramount in their choice of which football game to watch. Which school is in the larger city? -- Your's is. And that's important too, because when the guys get together to buy consumables and watch the game, the size of the city in which the two schools are located is paramount in their choice of which football game to watch. Which school is in the nicer city? -- Apparently, your's is -- And that's important too, because when the guys get together to buy consumables and watch the game, how nice the environment of the city in which the two schools are located is paramount in their choice of which football game to watch. The football programs are relatively equal over the last decade (close enough), so that's pretty much a wash. We've won 7 of the past 10 games. I would think that you'd find that far from "close enough". Oh and we're on a five game winning streak vs. UCLA -- you're 3-25 lifetime. Be honest, in what areas is Fresno State equal or superior to SDSU? Specifics and reasons, please, otherwise you need to stop. I don't really want to do this again right now. Every time I do, people bellyache that I keep saying the same things over and over again. But in short, think fan engagement. We have a bigger television market than you do. Our ratings are better than yours are. You compete with USC and UCLA for eyeballs -- we compete with Stanford and Cal (guffaw). We generate more advertising revenue than you do. Your population within say 50 miles of the stadium is 5, maybe 10 times ours -- yet we outdraw you in attendance. Expansion is about generating TV revenue for the conference and fan engagement, not academic standing or which city is "nicer", is what has the TV folks in our corner. (It doesn't hurt that we are an ag school joining a conference with several ag schools in it.) I'm about 90% certain that we will get into the Big 12 in the next month or so. I think that the PAC is about to lose 2-3 schools and, if they do, then you may or may not be invited to join us. It depends on who else wants in. But your admin screwed up -- they valued academic snobbery over conference stability. And academic snobbery doesn't buy beer. Stop with the crack… hilarious… you have won 7 of 10 games and over the same time span State has won 15 or so more games… it is a wash… Everything else is ++ for State, city, stadium(huge), alumni, academics (don’t pretend like it doesn’t matter), etc. and it doesn’t just matter for now… there is a gap between our schools now and it is big… but five years ago, before the new stadium amd all the academic progress, etc. the gap was pretty small… in five years it will go from Big to huge |
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Post by aardvark on Apr 13, 2023 0:17:21 GMT -8
OK, let's be real here. Which school has the better academic standing? Which school has the better Basketball program? Which school is in the larger city? Which school is in the nicer city? The football programs are relatively equal over the last decade (close enough), so that's pretty much a wash. Be honest, in what areas is Fresno State equal or superior to SDSU? Specifics and reasons, please, otherwise you need to stop. -- Apparently, your's does. And that's important too, because when the guys get together to buy consumables and watch the game, the academic standing of the two schools is paramount in their choice of which football game to watch. Which school has the better Basketball program? -- Obviously, your's does. And that's important too, because when the guys get together to buy consumables and watch the game, the quality of the MBB program at the two schools is paramount in their choice of which football game to watch. Which school is in the larger city? -- Your's is. And that's important too, because when the guys get together to buy consumables and watch the game, the size of the city in which the two schools are located is paramount in their choice of which football game to watch. Which school is in the nicer city? -- Apparently, your's is -- And that's important too, because when the guys get together to buy consumables and watch the game, how nice the environment of the city in which the two schools are located is paramount in their choice of which football game to watch. The football programs are relatively equal over the last decade (close enough), so that's pretty much a wash. We've won 7 of the past 10 games. I would think that you'd find that far from "close enough". Oh and we're on a five game winning streak vs. UCLA -- you're 3-25 lifetime. Be honest, in what areas is Fresno State equal or superior to SDSU? Specifics and reasons, please, otherwise you need to stop. I don't really want to do this again right now. Every time I do, people bellyache that I keep saying the same things over and over again. But in short, think fan engagement. We have a bigger television market than you do. Our ratings are better than yours are. You compete with USC and UCLA for eyeballs -- we compete with Stanford and Cal (guffaw). We generate more advertising revenue than you do. Your population within say 50 miles of the stadium is 5, maybe 10 times ours -- yet we outdraw you in attendance. Expansion is about generating TV revenue for the conference and fan engagement, not academic standing or which city is "nicer", is what has the TV folks in our corner. (It doesn't hurt that we are an ag school joining a conference with several ag schools in it.) I'm about 90% certain that we will get into the Big 12 in the next month or so. I think that the PAC is about to lose 2-3 schools and, if they do, then you may or may not be invited to join us. It depends on who else wants in. But your admin screwed up -- they valued academic snobbery over conference stability. And academic snobbery doesn't buy beer.  |
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Post by Red n Black on Apr 13, 2023 2:44:10 GMT -8
This needs its own thread.
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Post by Yoda on Apr 13, 2023 5:25:08 GMT -8
Okay, I'm going to try and pull away a little for awhile. I'm not leaving but I'm going to tone it down. Clearly few want to really debate this and many incorrectly think me a troll.
As I said before, I'll be here to take s.hit if it turns out that I'm wrong and I may sit it out a couple of weeks if it turns out that I am right. There is nothing I could possibly say that wouldn't be construed as trolling, or at least as patronizing.
Good luck.
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