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Post by azteccc on Jun 30, 2022 17:14:04 GMT -8
Re: Wickers comments
You can hear the optimism seeping through every single word he says. But what he actually said today is literally the only thing that could be expected - we always keep our options open and will do what is best for the school. He can’t exactly run out on a branch and tell the MW to suck it at this point. In rhetoric, has to remain positive about our current situation in the case nothing else materializes.
But again… I thought he sounded downright giddy
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Post by laaztec on Jun 30, 2022 18:09:18 GMT -8
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Post by sdsu2000 on Jun 30, 2022 18:27:32 GMT -8
I really think that more of the remaining 10 will leave the Pac 12 but I’d leave in a second if Boise joined us with Colorado State and UNLV being on standby.
Why? OSU and WSU will be there in the end and maybe Cal. I’d love to drop UNM, Wyoming and Nevada and going to a new conference is the only way that will happen.
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Post by sdsuball on Jun 30, 2022 18:40:08 GMT -8
The PAC 12 or the Big 12 are going to want a presence in So Cal. SDSU is sitting pretty right now. This was the best case dream scenario. Take the two PAC12 teams out of Southern California, one of the biggest media markets in the country, and all of a sudden SDSU is looking golden. But there is also the possibility that PAC12 tries to steal from the BIG12 (and vice versa). The PAC12 might want to try to expand into the central time zone by picking up a Texas school, and have a piece of that media market (Dallas Ft Worth is #5th ranked nationally, Houston #8th). Boise State isn't a big media market at #101. Vegas is reasonably sized at #40 in Nielsen ratings (SD is #27th). I do wonder if the PAC12 is considering the idea of picking up another LA school (LA is the second biggest media market in the US). Take a Cal State Northridge or LMU and try to build it into a brand, that sort of thing. Lots of possibilities, and I do think that SDSU is looking really good overall. We have a good media market, and we are the only football team that gets eyeballs in that media market. So that's a good thing. As is our winning and improvements academically. |
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Post by mayham81 on Jun 30, 2022 18:48:59 GMT -8
As long as however this plays out means we are not in the same conference as Wyoming I'm happy.
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Post by survalli on Jun 30, 2022 18:49:40 GMT -8
The PAC 12 or the Big 12 are going to want a presence in So Cal. SDSU is sitting pretty right now. This was the best case dream scenario. Take the two PAC12 teams out of Southern California, one of the biggest media markets in the country, and all of a sudden SDSU is looking golden. But there is also the possibility that PAC12 tries to steal from the BIG12 (and vice versa). The PAC12 might want to try to expand into the central time zone by picking up a Texas school, and have a piece of that media market (Dallas Ft Worth is #5th ranked nationally, Houston #8th). Boise State isn't a big media market at #101. Vegas is reasonably sized at #40 in Nielsen ratings (SD is #27th). I do wonder if the PAC12 is considering the idea of picking up another LA school (LA is the second biggest media market in the US). Take a Cal State Northridge or LMU and try to build it into a brand, that sort of thing. Lots of possibilities, and I do think that SDSU is looking really good overall. We have a good media market, and we are the only football team that gets eyeballs in that media market. So that's a good thing. As is our winning and improvements academically. tell me again how accurate this American Pie Media Market share carving up of the United State is? tell me why it still matters and can even sit at the table in a land where we can extract real data from streaming views? media market thing has been a charade for years. |
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Post by laaztec on Jun 30, 2022 19:00:30 GMT -8
The PAC 12 or the Big 12 are going to want a presence in So Cal. SDSU is sitting pretty right now. This was the best case dream scenario. Take the two PAC12 teams out of Southern California, one of the biggest media markets in the country, and all of a sudden SDSU is looking golden. But there is also the possibility that PAC12 tries to steal from the BIG12 (and vice versa). The PAC12 might want to try to expand into the central time zone by picking up a Texas school, and have a piece of that media market (Dallas Ft Worth is #5th ranked nationally, Houston #8th). Boise State isn't a big media market at #101. Vegas is reasonably sized at #40 in Nielsen ratings (SD is #27th). I do wonder if the PAC12 is considering the idea of picking up another LA school (LA is the second biggest media market in the US). Take a Cal State Northridge or LMU and try to build it into a brand, that sort of thing. Lots of possibilities, and I do think that SDSU is looking really good overall. We have a good media market, and we are the only football team that gets eyeballs in that media market. So that's a good thing. As is our winning and improvements academically. Once you mentioned csun and lmu the post lost credibility. |
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Post by Old School on Jun 30, 2022 19:01:23 GMT -8
The new PAC will want the continued SoCal representation (and recruiting grounds), SDSU is a no-brainer.
Wicker is keeping his excitement under control, which is smart. Things should work out, as long as the winning tradition continues.
Oldie Out
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Post by AzTex on Jun 30, 2022 21:14:32 GMT -8
Re: Wickers comments You can hear the optimism seeping through every single word he says. But what he actually said today is literally the only thing that could be expected - we always keep our options open and will do what is best for the school. He can’t exactly run out on a branch and tell the MW to suck it at this point. In rhetoric, has to remain positive about our current situation in the case nothing else materializes. But again… I thought he sounded downright giddy Makes sense. We can't even know if we'd prefer to join the PAC ? or the Big 12 until we know who's going to still be with the conference. It also depends on who would want us, if any on of them would.
I'm a little giddy myself thinking about the possibilities. The new PAC or new Big 12 will never be what they were before the recent defections, but they'll probably be better than what we have now.
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Post by DeeMoney on Jun 30, 2022 21:26:45 GMT -8
The more I read/hear about this I think the long game is there are 2 or 3 super-conferences that are populated with the cream of the crop P5 blue bloods. They then realign within each one with a more logical regional grouping. This will condense more power ($, recruits) at the top within these supergroups and further stratify college athletics as a whole.
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Post by sdsuball on Jul 1, 2022 0:05:14 GMT -8
This was the best case dream scenario. Take the two PAC12 teams out of Southern California, one of the biggest media markets in the country, and all of a sudden SDSU is looking golden. But there is also the possibility that PAC12 tries to steal from the BIG12 (and vice versa). The PAC12 might want to try to expand into the central time zone by picking up a Texas school, and have a piece of that media market (Dallas Ft Worth is #5th ranked nationally, Houston #8th). Boise State isn't a big media market at #101. Vegas is reasonably sized at #40 in Nielsen ratings (SD is #27th). I do wonder if the PAC12 is considering the idea of picking up another LA school (LA is the second biggest media market in the US). Take a Cal State Northridge or LMU and try to build it into a brand, that sort of thing. Lots of possibilities, and I do think that SDSU is looking really good overall. We have a good media market, and we are the only football team that gets eyeballs in that media market. So that's a good thing. As is our winning and improvements academically. Once you mentioned csun and lmu the post lost credibility. Wouldn't be the first time that a power conference picked up a crappy/mediocre program in a market that they were looking to expand into. For real, if LMU was part of the PAC-12, people in LA might go to see them play CAL/Stanford/Oregon etc. They also might watch it on TV. Especially when you consider that they would get much better from PAC-12 revenue. This isn't the NFL, you can't take a good team in a small market and move them into a big market. The only way for the PAC-12 to try to get a piece of the LA media market is to pick up an LA college. It's the second biggest media market in the country. |
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Post by sdsuball on Jul 1, 2022 0:09:16 GMT -8
This was the best case dream scenario. Take the two PAC12 teams out of Southern California, one of the biggest media markets in the country, and all of a sudden SDSU is looking golden. But there is also the possibility that PAC12 tries to steal from the BIG12 (and vice versa). The PAC12 might want to try to expand into the central time zone by picking up a Texas school, and have a piece of that media market (Dallas Ft Worth is #5th ranked nationally, Houston #8th). Boise State isn't a big media market at #101. Vegas is reasonably sized at #40 in Nielsen ratings (SD is #27th). I do wonder if the PAC12 is considering the idea of picking up another LA school (LA is the second biggest media market in the US). Take a Cal State Northridge or LMU and try to build it into a brand, that sort of thing. Lots of possibilities, and I do think that SDSU is looking really good overall. We have a good media market, and we are the only football team that gets eyeballs in that media market. So that's a good thing. As is our winning and improvements academically. tell me again how accurate this American Pie Media Market share carving up of the United State is? tell me why it still matters and can even sit at the table in a land where we can extract real data from streaming views? media market thing has been a charade for years. Well, it still does result in billion dollar TV deals... and is used as a measuring stick for eyeballs. Whether those eyeballs are watching college football through a tv, computer, or phone is somewhat irrelevant, right? There is still a lot more people in LA then San Diego. |
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Post by McQuervo on Jul 1, 2022 2:01:04 GMT -8
The new PAC will want the continued SoCal representation (and recruiting grounds), SDSU is a no-brainer. Wicker is keeping his excitement under control, which is smart. Things should work out, as long as the winning tradition continues. Oldie Out Pac "12" is in media negotiations with a new commissioner now-expect that to be a major disappointment for PacWhen fan. OreGoon and Washington will also soon make a move> makes too much sense and that will dilute the West to an even or lower status to the MWC. Big 12>24 or stay. SDSU is suddenly thrust into an upward trajectory-this is all good and expect a move within months! |
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Post by TruAztec on Jul 1, 2022 4:11:55 GMT -8
Let me start by saying that if we end up in a conference or the MWC improves and makes more money and better play, I will be happy.
BUT, the idea of USC and UCLA going to the Big 10 is horrible for college sports. It almost wants me to not follow college sports anymore. College sports more than anything else is tradition and regional rivals. This just turns this on its head. If I was an alum or fan of either of these schools I would be against this.
I know the world is driven by money but this is just ridiculous and in many ways is destroying college sports. I was not a fan of when we were in the Big East for 3 minutes and thought it was dumb and this actually feels dumber than that.
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Jul 1, 2022 5:07:39 GMT -8
Let me start by saying that if we end up in a conference or the MWC improves and makes more money and better play, I will be happy. BUT, the idea of USC and UCLA going to the Big 10 is horrible for college sports. It almost wants me to not follow college sports anymore. College sports more than anything else is tradition and regional rivals. This just turns this on its head. If I was an alum or fan of either of these schools I would be against this. I know the world is driven by money but this is just ridiculous and in many ways is destroying college sports. I was not a fan of when we were in the Big East for 3 minutes and thought it was dumb and this actually feels dumber than that. Totally agree. I've been saying this for a while, but I think this whole conference realignment money grabbing going on in college sports is going to lead to its eventual demise. I think people are going to stop caring about it I used to absolutely love college football in general and now all I watch or pay attention to are the Aztecs. I naturally lost interest about 5 or so years ago |
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Post by Trujillos & Beer on Jul 1, 2022 6:27:26 GMT -8
Let me start by saying that if we end up in a conference or the MWC improves and makes more money and better play, I will be happy. BUT, the idea of USC and UCLA going to the Big 10 is horrible for college sports. It almost wants me to not follow college sports anymore. College sports more than anything else is tradition and regional rivals. This just turns this on its head. If I was an alum or fan of either of these schools I would be against this. I know the world is driven by money but this is just ridiculous and in many ways is destroying college sports. I was not a fan of when we were in the Big East for 3 minutes and thought it was dumb and this actually feels dumber than that. Totally agree. I've been saying this for a while, but I think this whole conference realignment money grabbing going on in college sports is going to lead to its eventual demise. I think people are going to stop caring about it I used to absolutely love college football in general and now all I watch or pay attention to are the Aztecs. I naturally lost interest about 5 or so years ago Same. I may catch part of a big time regular season game but that's about it. I have no interest in the bowl games or CFP so I'm surely not going to watch a random Oklahoma State or Michigan game. I enjoy the Aztecs, that's all. At some point a super, super conference is coming and the bottom of the ACC, Big 10, and even SEC will be hanging with us. |
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Post by sdsustoner on Jul 1, 2022 6:44:25 GMT -8
Totally agree. I've been saying this for a while, but I think this whole conference realignment money grabbing going on in college sports is going to lead to its eventual demise. I think people are going to stop caring about it I used to absolutely love college football in general and now all I watch or pay attention to are the Aztecs. I naturally lost interest about 5 or so years ago Same. I may catch part of a big time regular season game but that's about it. I have no interest in the bowl games or CFP so I'm surely not going to watch a random Oklahoma State or Michigan game. I enjoy the Aztecs, that's all. At some point a super, super conference is coming and the bottom of the ACC, Big 10, and even SEC will be hanging with us. Same. Unless it's a MWC game...generally speaking. Or if a team is beating BYU, then I'll switch over a become a fan of said team for the rest of the game. |
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Post by sdsustoner on Jul 1, 2022 6:46:22 GMT -8
Actually, I take an interest in the result of the Pac-12 teams SDSU beats as I hope they win the rest of their games. I don't care enough to watch
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Post by jalmonb on Jul 1, 2022 6:50:10 GMT -8
This timing couldn't have been worse for O and W, not enough time to get an invite ahead of new media contract. Pac is going to have to live with a reduced and non-competitive contract for a few years. Expect whoever picks up contract it will not be more than two or three years max.
Alot of great thoughts.
I see the PAC conference imploding completely or watered down with maybe Cal and the state schools as the only traditional members. Not sure about Arizona.
Timing couldn't have been better for USC/UCLA. Although there is something in the back of my mind that says there is a recruiting effect when half your games will be played in Nebraska or farther east regardless of the level of talent. Do mom and dad say we can't come to your away games. Also both schools do not have a traditional rival on the W(B)est Coast except for each other.
Greed begats greed... and so it rolls.
GO AZTECS!!
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Post by missiontrails on Jul 1, 2022 6:57:54 GMT -8
This was the best case dream scenario. Take the two PAC12 teams out of Southern California, one of the biggest media markets in the country, and all of a sudden SDSU is looking golden. But there is also the possibility that PAC12 tries to steal from the BIG12 (and vice versa). The PAC12 might want to try to expand into the central time zone by picking up a Texas school, and have a piece of that media market (Dallas Ft Worth is #5th ranked nationally, Houston #8th). Boise State isn't a big media market at #101. Vegas is reasonably sized at #40 in Nielsen ratings (SD is #27th). I do wonder if the PAC12 is considering the idea of picking up another LA school (LA is the second biggest media market in the US). Take a Cal State Northridge or LMU and try to build it into a brand, that sort of thing. Lots of possibilities, and I do think that SDSU is looking really good overall. We have a good media market, and we are the only football team that gets eyeballs in that media market. So that's a good thing. As is our winning and improvements academically. Once you mentioned csun and lmu the post lost credibility. How about La Verne?  |
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