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Post by The Aztec Panther on Jun 16, 2022 20:30:39 GMT -8
And so it begins... A New Mexico Republican has refused to certify an election won by a Democrat, citing Dominion voting machines as the reason. Start the steal. Oh, this guy was just convicted of trespassing at the Capitol on January 6th, too. The Republican party is encouraging the local nutjobs to take these positions of election authority and overturn the results when the Republicans lose. Trump's already made sure a bunch of them have gotten key positions in swing states. This is where the Republican Party is headed. They don't care about democracy. They want to remove the possibility of ever losing an election. If they win, the election is valid. If they lose? It's fraud and a stolen election. This is 1930's Germany kind of stuff. This is Putin's Russia kind of stuff. If you believe in Democracy, you cannot support a party that is trying to subvert it and take it away from the American people. You just can't. www.cnn.com/2022/06/16/politics/new-mexico-otero-county-election/index.html |
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 6, 2022 7:18:14 GMT -8
Openly. On video.
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 21, 2022 20:22:19 GMT -8
So here we are, two weeks from elections...and we have open voter intimidation in Arizona. Wonder if there's correlation before propping up propaganda and the aftermath....
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Post by uwphoto on Oct 22, 2022 7:18:11 GMT -8
So here we are, two weeks from elections...and we have open voter intimidation in Arizona. Wonder if there's correlation before propping up propaganda and the aftermath.... Here's the scary part. In the 60's and 70's, young people were very involved and were the driving force for cultural change. I hear interviews with professors and teachers who say their students today (for the most part) just don't care and are uninvolved. Guess it might be the digital age where young people are in their own virtual worlds...and are just not connected, or caring what happens in the big picture. Really bad things can happen when large groups of society just don't care. |
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 22, 2022 7:41:39 GMT -8
So here we are, two weeks from elections...and we have open voter intimidation in Arizona. Wonder if there's correlation before propping up propaganda and the aftermath.... Here's the scary part. In the 60's and 70's, young people were very involved and were the driving force for cultural change. I hear interviews with professors and teachers who say their students today (for the most part) just don't care and are uninvolved. Guess it might be the digital age where young people are in their own virtual worlds...and are just not connected, or caring what happens in the big picture. Really bad things can happen when large groups of society just don't care. That narrative doesn't hold nationwide. Voting by youth voters was up dramatically in 2020. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Oct 22, 2022 7:43:24 GMT -8
So here we are, two weeks from elections...and we have open voter intimidation in Arizona. Wonder if there's correlation before propping up propaganda and the aftermath.... Here's the scary part. In the 60's and 70's, young people were very involved and were the driving force for cultural change. I hear interviews with professors and teachers who say their students today (for the most part) just don't care and are uninvolved. Guess it might be the digital age where young people are in their own virtual worlds...and are just not connected, or caring what happens in the big picture. Really bad things can happen when large groups of society just don't care. Yeah, this generation of kids (late teens to mid 20's) is rather unmotivated and lazy. I say this as my daughter is in that age group and her friends have all been unmotivated and lazy, and I haven't run across anyone who knows of anyone in that age group that is motivated and hard working. Maybe that's an unfair criticism, but it would seem that growing up with the internet has negatively impacted this group of young adults. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Oct 22, 2022 7:45:05 GMT -8
Here's the scary part. In the 60's and 70's, young people were very involved and were the driving force for cultural change. I hear interviews with professors and teachers who say their students today (for the most part) just don't care and are uninvolved. Guess it might be the digital age where young people are in their own virtual worlds...and are just not connected, or caring what happens in the big picture. Really bad things can happen when large groups of society just don't care. That narrative doesn't hold nationwide. Voting by youth voters was up dramatically in 2020. But are they getting involved? I haven't seen it. Granted, my perspective is limited, but everything I've seen shows an unmotivated group of young adults. Voting is easy, going out and getting involved takes a lot more effort. |
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 22, 2022 8:24:14 GMT -8
That narrative doesn't hold nationwide. Voting by youth voters was up dramatically in 2020. But are they getting involved? I haven't seen it. Granted, my perspective is limited, but everything I've seen shows an unmotivated group of young adults. Voting is easy, going out and getting involved takes a lot more effort. They are getting involved. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Oct 22, 2022 8:33:34 GMT -8
But are they getting involved? I haven't seen it. Granted, my perspective is limited, but everything I've seen shows an unmotivated group of young adults. Voting is easy, going out and getting involved takes a lot more effort. They are getting involved. Voting, which now takes almost no effort, is not getting involved. Going out and volunteering? Effort. Going to a rally? Effort. Hell, do they even donate money to candidates or causes? That's what I'm talking about. There is little engagement outside of voting. Hey, I could be wrong, but I haven't seen any evidence that this generation is truly engaged in the political process (or that they even care all that much). |
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 22, 2022 8:42:54 GMT -8
They are getting involved. Voting, which now takes almost no effort, is not getting involved. Going out and volunteering? Effort. Going to a rally? Effort. Hell, do they even donate money to candidates or causes? That's what I'm talking about. There is little engagement outside of voting. Hey, I could be wrong, but I haven't seen any evidence that this generation is truly engaged in the political process (or that they even care all that much). You are WAY out of touch...in a thread you started. Voting isn't easy. Ask people in Georgia who stood in lines for six hours plus. Ask minorities who are having their access challenged and limited. Ask me (when I didn't have a vehicle) where I had to push over a mile and a half to get to my polling place. There are grassroots movements in several states right now after the overturning of Roe v. Wade that have been started by, yep, you guessed it...young voters. Protests in the immediate aftermath of the overturn spurred on by...young voters. Let's just be a little more self-aware here. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Oct 22, 2022 8:48:01 GMT -8
Voting, which now takes almost no effort, is not getting involved. Going out and volunteering? Effort. Going to a rally? Effort. Hell, do they even donate money to candidates or causes? That's what I'm talking about. There is little engagement outside of voting. Hey, I could be wrong, but I haven't seen any evidence that this generation is truly engaged in the political process (or that they even care all that much). You are WAY out of touch...in a thread you started. Voting isn't easy. Ask people in Georgia who stood in lines for six hours plus. Ask minorities who are having their access challenged and limited. Ask me (when I didn't have a vehicle) where I had to push over a mile and a half to get to my polling place. There are grassroots movements in several states right now after the overturning of Roe v. Wade that have been started by, yep, you guessed it...young voters. Protests in the immediate aftermath of the overturn spurred on by...young voters. Let's just be a little more self-aware here. The people I've seen protesting have all looked like they were in their 30's and 40's. I haven't seen any teens or twentysomethings. Maybe I missed them, it's possible, but I haven't seen many (if any at all). |
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Post by uwphoto on Oct 22, 2022 8:55:25 GMT -8
Voting, which now takes almost no effort, is not getting involved. Going out and volunteering? Effort. Going to a rally? Effort. Hell, do they even donate money to candidates or causes? That's what I'm talking about. There is little engagement outside of voting. Hey, I could be wrong, but I haven't seen any evidence that this generation is truly engaged in the political process (or that they even care all that much). You are WAY out of touch...in a thread you started. Voting isn't easy. Ask people in Georgia who stood in lines for six hours plus. Ask minorities who are having their access challenged and limited. Ask me (when I didn't have a vehicle) where I had to push over a mile and a half to get to my polling place. There are grassroots movements in several states right now after the overturning of Roe v. Wade that have been started by, yep, you guessed it...young voters. Protests in the immediate aftermath of the overturn spurred on by...young voters. Let's just be a little more self-aware here. Disagree Ryan. Remember "March for Science" etc. it was all oldsters for the most part. I'm just reacting to interviews with educators I have heard on different radio programs. I'm not seeing the "fire in the belly" of the 60's and 70's. The establishment was actually afraid of the college students and their power to evoke change then...if you were there. |
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 22, 2022 10:04:34 GMT -8
You are WAY out of touch...in a thread you started. Voting isn't easy. Ask people in Georgia who stood in lines for six hours plus. Ask minorities who are having their access challenged and limited. Ask me (when I didn't have a vehicle) where I had to push over a mile and a half to get to my polling place. There are grassroots movements in several states right now after the overturning of Roe v. Wade that have been started by, yep, you guessed it...young voters. Protests in the immediate aftermath of the overturn spurred on by...young voters. Let's just be a little more self-aware here. Disagree Ryan. Remember "March for Science" etc. it was all oldsters for the most part. I'm just reacting to interviews with educators I have heard on different radio programs. I'm not seeing the "fire in the belly" of the 60's and 70's. The establishment was actually afraid of the college students and their power to evoke change then...if you were there. You're not looking at national data then. |
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Post by uwphoto on Oct 22, 2022 10:26:23 GMT -8
Disagree Ryan. Remember "March for Science" etc. it was all oldsters for the most part. I'm just reacting to interviews with educators I have heard on different radio programs. I'm not seeing the "fire in the belly" of the 60's and 70's. The establishment was actually afraid of the college students and their power to evoke change then...if you were there. You're not looking at national data then. I'll beleive it when I see it...beyond data. |
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 22, 2022 11:23:29 GMT -8
You're not looking at national data then. I'll beleive it when I see it...beyond data. That doesn't make any sense, as the data is the only thing that matters. Votes. |
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Post by uwphoto on Oct 22, 2022 14:14:21 GMT -8
I'll beleive it when I see it...beyond data. That doesn't make any sense, as the data is the only thing that matters. Votes. Massive student demonstrations against the Vietnam War, and bloodshed at Kent State made life miserable for Nixon and helped end the war and drive him out of office. Sure Watergate helped. The day I see massive student demonstrations against the maga crew I'll beleive you. |
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 23, 2022 9:50:01 GMT -8
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Oct 23, 2022 10:18:38 GMT -8
Italy in the 20's. Germany in the 30's. Russia in the early 2000's.
Now, if these people get away with this, it will be the United States in the 2020's.
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Post by aztecmusician on Oct 23, 2022 14:30:17 GMT -8
Italy in the 20's. Germany in the 30's. Russia in the early 2000's. Now, if these people get away with this, it will be the United States in the 2020's. A few people voice concerns over high gas prices, inflation, violent crime and bizzare WOKE values and suddenly in your mind they are Nazis? Seek therapy, you are clearly demented. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Oct 23, 2022 14:42:04 GMT -8
Italy in the 20's. Germany in the 30's. Russia in the early 2000's. Now, if these people get away with this, it will be the United States in the 2020's. A few people voice concerns over high gas prices, inflation, violent crime and bizzare WOKE values and suddenly in your mind they are Nazis? Seek therapy, you are clearly demented. Ummmm... Does the elimination or nullification of Democracy NOT concern you? Trump is trying to set a method in place to overturn valid elections that don't go their way. Republicans are being elected to state and local offices that control elections. Republican states are proposing laws to allow State Legislatures to overturn elections if they just, "Suspect," fraud occurred. Would that not terrify you if the roles were reversed and it was Democrats doing that? |
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