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Post by uwphoto on Jun 10, 2022 1:13:21 GMT -8
Democrat policies and illegalities creates an invasion over the border. That means millions of people are paying the Mexican Drug Cartels hoping for a safe passage. www.nasdaq.com/articles/color-coded-passage%3A-why-smugglers-are-tagging-u.s.-bound-migrants-with-wristbands-2021-03While some get safe passage, others get raped and put into sex trafficking rings and, while the Democrats don't really care either way, the Cartels are flush with money. And what does the Cartels do with that money? They take a good part and make or purchase heroin & cocaine and purchase Fentanyl from China and make it for sale in the US. And make even more money. Repeat. The Cartel’s smuggle the drugs when, where and however they can. And as our ICE/Border Patrol agents are too busy being travel agents for future Democrats, the Cartels send their drugs to their aligned gangs in the US via Ports of Entry, on back-packs of mules, in tunnels and on drones, etc. The drug flow contributes to the over 100,000 deaths by OD annually and the Democrats don't really care because the fortunes of future Democrat voters are more important to them than the lives of their fellow US citizens. Some true believers even think that the use of drugs in the US is not a function of supply and enforcement but demand. Then someone with an actual brain looks at Singapore. Their Heroin deaths per capita is two orders of magnitude lower than in the US. 20 times. www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/singapore-is-winning-the-war-on-drugs-heres-how/2018/03/11/b8c25278-22e9-11e8-946c-9420060cb7bd_story.htmlAnd do you think the Singapore government agents don't have any idea of who is coming into their country? Do they hand out needles and sing "Kumbaya" and do nothing when they encounter users/addicts breaking the law with simple possession and purchasing of the illicit drugs? Not really. singaporelegaladvice.com/law-articles/what-are-singapores-laws-on-drug-consumption/So Democrat policies are killing our fellow citizens, making the drug Cartels more rich and powerful, making gangs in the US more rich and powerful, are helping China undermine the US, are enabling sexual abuse and sex trafficking but other than that, they are awesome. haha...did CIA and FBI..bad..Putin good phase you even a bit?..thought so...roll eyes. |
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Post by ptsdthor on Jun 10, 2022 7:15:44 GMT -8
Companies would NOT pay for data that can't really tell them if the cell phone owner was in Target, or the Starbucks or the Chick-Fil-A next door, for example. So I am in the camp that puts the accuracies down to a meter or two (as has been stated in many publications). So in my mind, if you think that one or two meters is too wide of an aperture to capture the coincidence that someone who has visited multiple drop box locales along with visiting 3 Democrat leaning NGO locales, then I gather that no amount of data or accuracies will be enough. Then it might be...they were simply volunteers and helping people out, etc.  Russians in Ukraine are being targeted with this sort of technique. Accuracies up to "several feet" claimed. True the Vote exposed it. It is up to the Lifers in the Government to do something about it. Not holding my breath. theintercept.com/2022/04/22/anomaly-six-phone-tracking-zignal-surveillance-cia-nsa/Well, it's kind of relevant where the drop box is located... like if its outside a library and they are old and go to the library multiple times per week. Also, what if someone did fill out multiple ballots? Isn't that something that is checked for when ballots are counted (if there are multiple ballots from one person)? You're kind of pulling at straws with your arguments to be honest. I'm sorry that you are unwilling to admit that Trump lost, it's pretty sad. No one ever said that there were multiple ballots from one person. The claim was that ballot harvesting and trafficking was prohibited in one form or another in the various jurisdictions involved and the evidence shows that it likely occurred at significant levels. Actual proof would be a function of investigations of the principals involved which did not and will not happen. Trump did lose the election, of course, but why should the country ignore this underlying reality and allow the mule game to become the new norm in our elections? What would be really sad is if you approve of elections not determined by the individual voters but by organized true believers. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 10, 2022 7:18:04 GMT -8
Well, it's kind of relevant where the drop box is located... like if its outside a library and they are old and go to the library multiple times per week. Also, what if someone did fill out multiple ballots? Isn't that something that is checked for when ballots are counted (if there are multiple ballots from one person)? You're kind of pulling at straws with your arguments to be honest. I'm sorry that you are unwilling to admit that Trump lost, it's pretty sad. No one ever said that there were multiple ballots from one person. The claim was that ballot harvesting and trafficking was prohibited in one form or another in the various jurisdictions involved and the evidence shows that it likely occurred at significant levels. Actual proof would be a function of investigations of the principals involved which did not and will not happen. Trump did lose the election, of course, but why should the country ignore this underlying reality and allow the mule game to become the new norm in our elections? What would be really sad is if you approve of elections not determined by the individual voters but by organized true believers. Oops. |
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Post by ptsdthor on Jun 10, 2022 7:24:19 GMT -8
No one ever said that there were multiple ballots from one person. The claim was that ballot harvesting and trafficking was prohibited in one form or another in the various jurisdictions involved and the evidence shows that it likely occurred at significant levels. Actual proof would be a function of investigations of the principals involved which did not and will not happen. Trump did lose the election, of course, but why should the country ignore this underlying reality and allow the mule game to become the new norm in our elections? What would be really sad is if you approve of elections not determined by the individual voters but by organized true believers. Oops. Thanks for agreeing with my point. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 10, 2022 7:27:35 GMT -8
Thanks for agreeing with my point. Not agreeing with your post - Illustrating the hypocrisy that you think ballot harvesting happens on one side and not the other, nor will you acknowledge the facts that True the Vote proved nothing in their analysis besides "People were close to dropboxes in public places." You continually get duped by dubious sources, rail away at the Democrat side, but say nothing that the only proven instances of fraud in this past election were from the Republican side. |
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Post by ptsdthor on Jun 10, 2022 7:56:50 GMT -8
Thanks for agreeing with my point. Not agreeing with your post - Illustrating the hypocrisy that you think ballot harvesting happens on one side and not the other, nor will you acknowledge the facts that True the Vote proved nothing in their analysis besides "People were close to dropboxes in public places." You continually get duped by dubious sources, rail away at the Democrat side, but say nothing that the only proven instances of fraud in this past election were from the Republican side. So do you think Ballot Harvesting and Trafficking should be allowed? If no, you agree with my point. If yes, you are in True Believer Ville. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 10, 2022 8:05:24 GMT -8
Not agreeing with your post - Illustrating the hypocrisy that you think ballot harvesting happens on one side and not the other, nor will you acknowledge the facts that True the Vote proved nothing in their analysis besides "People were close to dropboxes in public places." You continually get duped by dubious sources, rail away at the Democrat side, but say nothing that the only proven instances of fraud in this past election were from the Republican side. So do you think Ballot Harvesting and Trafficking should be allowed? If no, you agree with my point. If yes, you are in True Believer Ville. See? You can't even address the problem, answer any of the points and instead just want to use edgy codewords. Address the problem. |
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Post by ptsdthor on Jun 10, 2022 8:23:12 GMT -8
So do you think Ballot Harvesting and Trafficking should be allowed? If no, you agree with my point. If yes, you are in True Believer Ville. See? You can't even address the problem, answer any of the points and instead just want to use edgy codewords. Address the problem. When you say "only" on the GOP side tells me you are not credible here. I hear in France that election results that are secure and resolved in a day. I like their solutions and would solve the problem. But, of course, that would be an anathema to True Believers as it precludes the massive and easy coordination they have going on now. Giving rides to someone with an ID to the voting booth on election day just wouldn't quite cut it. news.yahoo.com/voting-france-paper-ballots-cast-061727739.html |
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 10, 2022 8:34:10 GMT -8
Yeah, with apologies to the Arizona Free Enterprise Club (huh?)...It takes less than three sentences to determine heavy right-wing bias. Not interested in loaded anti-Democrat hit pieces. Massive and easy coordination? Where? In Nevada, there were multiple instances of people attempting to vote twice, all on the Trump side. In Pennsylvania, you were already shown a coordinated effort to harvest votes....on the Trump side. www.newsweek.com/gop-voter-sentenced-casting-dead-moms-ballot-said-election-not-fair-1702442Back in Arizona. This myth of widespread fraud and stuffing the ballot boxes is just that...a myth. Nothing you can come up with is legitimately sourced enough to prove otherwise. |
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Jun 13, 2022 12:37:10 GMT -8
Former AG Bill Barr Laughs at Dinesh D'Souza's Election Conspiracy Theory Film '2000 Mules' in January 6 Committee Deposition "The election was not stolen by fraud, and I haven't seen anything since the election that changes my mind on that, including the '2000 Mules' movie," Barr said in his deposition, laughing. " "The cellphone data is singularly unimpressive," Barr added. "Basically, if you take 2 million cellphones and figure out where they are physically in a big city like Atlanta or wherever, by definition, you're going to find many hundreds of them that have passed by and spent time in the vicinity these boxes. And the premise that if you go by five boxes or whatever it was, that that's a mule, is indefensible." "The Associated Press' in-depth fact check of the movie described the film as "based on faulty assumptions, anonymous accounts and improper analysis of cellphone location data, which is not precise enough to confirm that somebody deposited a ballot into a drop box, according to experts." www.businessinsider.com/bill-barr-mocks-2000-mules-film-january-6-deposition-video-2022-6 |
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Post by ptsdthor on Jun 13, 2022 14:59:28 GMT -8
Former AG Bill Barr Laughs at Dinesh D'Souza's Election Conspiracy Theory Film '2000 Mules' in January 6 Committee Deposition "The election was not stolen by fraud, and I haven't seen anything since the election that changes my mind on that, including the '2000 Mules' movie," Barr said in his deposition, laughing. " "The cellphone data is singularly unimpressive," Barr added. "Basically, if you take 2 million cellphones and figure out where they are physically in a big city like Atlanta or wherever, by definition, you're going to find many hundreds of them that have passed by and spent time in the vicinity these boxes. And the premise that if you go by five boxes or whatever it was, that that's a mule, is indefensible." "The Associated Press' in-depth fact check of the movie described the film as "based on faulty assumptions, anonymous accounts and improper analysis of cellphone location data, which is not precise enough to confirm that somebody deposited a ballot into a drop box, according to experts." www.businessinsider.com/bill-barr-mocks-2000-mules-film-january-6-deposition-video-2022-6,c_limit/Sec_Image---Geofence-boundary-and-CHWIESIUK-locations.jpg The techniques used by True the Vote seemed to be used to good effect by the DoJ, Google, etc yet they are universally discounted by the Never Trumpers. Funny how that works. But "all" the experts seem to agree that the accuracy is just not there. And I always feel so good when "experts" agree. Like in the assessment by "experts" in the pre-election appearance of Hunter Biden's Laptop and it being a Russian Disinformation scheme. Politics clearly clouded those expert's assessment but politics can't be involved with this "academic" subject however. Naww. If it wasn't a Star Chamber, some Representatives in the actual minority might have been be able to press Barr on his knowledge (or lack thereof) of True the Vote's techniques to eliminate random encounters with the drop boxes and NGOs. I noticed he didn't mention the NGOs but whatever. Just the "large numbers" type defense that asserts you can derive anything you want from them. Perhaps the minority (if there were one) would possibly even bring in representatives from True the Vote themselves. It should be allowed (if not desired) given the rules of evidence and that the pseudo prosecution breached the subject in follow up to Barr's comments . But, but it is not a trial! (where some fairness for the defendant is maintained). No duh! Its funny how Barr was once thought to be a self-serving stooge when he seemingly laughed off the claims of Obstruction of Justice by Trump for his tweets and comments that mocked or questioned those behind the investigations of the Russia Hoax but now he is next to Socrates in his wisdom...especially with his Masters Degree in RF Engineering and Geolocation. Could you imagine Barr saying.. "There could be something to the 2000 Mules claims. Perhaps I didn't look hard enough at the events surrounding the election and shouldn't have resigned"? |
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 13, 2022 15:13:26 GMT -8
Former AG Bill Barr Laughs at Dinesh D'Souza's Election Conspiracy Theory Film '2000 Mules' in January 6 Committee Deposition "The election was not stolen by fraud, and I haven't seen anything since the election that changes my mind on that, including the '2000 Mules' movie," Barr said in his deposition, laughing. " "The cellphone data is singularly unimpressive," Barr added. "Basically, if you take 2 million cellphones and figure out where they are physically in a big city like Atlanta or wherever, by definition, you're going to find many hundreds of them that have passed by and spent time in the vicinity these boxes. And the premise that if you go by five boxes or whatever it was, that that's a mule, is indefensible." "The Associated Press' in-depth fact check of the movie described the film as "based on faulty assumptions, anonymous accounts and improper analysis of cellphone location data, which is not precise enough to confirm that somebody deposited a ballot into a drop box, according to experts." www.businessinsider.com/bill-barr-mocks-2000-mules-film-january-6-deposition-video-2022-6,c_limit/Sec_Image---Geofence-boundary-and-CHWIESIUK-locations.jpg The techniques used by True the Vote seemed to be used to good effect by the DoJ, Google, etc yet they are universally discounted by the Never Trumpers. Funny how that works. But "all" the experts seem to agree that the accuracy is just not there. And I always feel so good when "experts" agree. Like in the assessment by "experts" in the pre-election appearance of Hunter Biden's Laptop and it being a Russian Disinformation scheme. Politics clearly clouded those experts assessment but politics can't be involved with this "academic" subject however. Naww. If it wasn't a Star Chamber, some Representatives in the actual minority might have been be able to press Barr on his knowledge (or lack thereof) of True the Vote's techniques to eliminate random encounters with the drop boxes and NGOs. I noticed he didn't mention the NGOs but whatever. Just the "large numbers" type defense that asserts you can derive anything you want from them. Perhaps the minority (if there were one) would possibly even bring in representatives from True the Vote themselves. It should be allowed (if not desired) given the rules of evidence and that the pseudo prosecution breached the subject in follow up to Barr's comments . But, but it is not a trial! (where some fairness for the defendant is maintained). No duh! Its funny how Barr was once thought to be a self-serving stooge when he seemingly laughed off the claims of Obstruction of Justice by Trump for his tweets and comments that mocked or questioned those behind the investigations of the Russia Hoax but now he is next to Socrates in his wisdom...especially with his Masters Degree in RF Engineering and Geolocation. Could you imagine Barr saying.. "There could be something to the 2000 Mules claims. Perhaps I didn't look hard enough at the events surrounding the election and shouldn't have resigned"? Man...this is disturbing. Once again, the U.S. Capitol is not a public place. Unauthorized access is prohibited. There's a MASSIVE difference between what you're proposing and the truth. You have to be able to see that. Geolocation data can tell you when a person is inside the Capitol. It can't tell you with ANY certainty that someone dropped a ballot in a ballot box more than one time. It's not a trial. It's a hearing. We already know enough for an indictment to be made, whether they choose to go that route or not. Bill Barr is still a miserable scumbag, but at least he has found the integrity to find the truth and not capitulate to the lies and the fraud of Donald Trump. I'm not sure you're capable of being honest enough to even have a useful discussion on this topic. Everything is slanted, skewed and manipulated with your lack of honesty here. And I could even understand it....but this is Donald freakin' Trump. I just do not understand. |
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Jun 13, 2022 16:21:29 GMT -8
Former AG Bill Barr Laughs at Dinesh D'Souza's Election Conspiracy Theory Film '2000 Mules' in January 6 Committee Deposition "The election was not stolen by fraud, and I haven't seen anything since the election that changes my mind on that, including the '2000 Mules' movie," Barr said in his deposition, laughing. " "The cellphone data is singularly unimpressive," Barr added. "Basically, if you take 2 million cellphones and figure out where they are physically in a big city like Atlanta or wherever, by definition, you're going to find many hundreds of them that have passed by and spent time in the vicinity these boxes. And the premise that if you go by five boxes or whatever it was, that that's a mule, is indefensible." "The Associated Press' in-depth fact check of the movie described the film as "based on faulty assumptions, anonymous accounts and improper analysis of cellphone location data, which is not precise enough to confirm that somebody deposited a ballot into a drop box, according to experts." www.businessinsider.com/bill-barr-mocks-2000-mules-film-january-6-deposition-video-2022-6,c_limit/Sec_Image---Geofence-boundary-and-CHWIESIUK-locations.jpg The techniques used by True the Vote seemed to be used to good effect by the DoJ, Google, etc yet they are universally discounted by the Never Trumpers. Funny how that works. But "all" the experts seem to agree that the accuracy is just not there. And I always feel so good when "experts" agree. Like in the assessment by "experts" in the pre-election appearance of Hunter Biden's Laptop and it being a Russian Disinformation scheme. Politics clearly clouded those expert's assessment but politics can't be involved with this "academic" subject however. Naww. If it wasn't a Star Chamber, some Representatives in the actual minority might have been be able to press Barr on his knowledge (or lack thereof) of True the Vote's techniques to eliminate random encounters with the drop boxes and NGOs. I noticed he didn't mention the NGOs but whatever. Just the "large numbers" type defense that asserts you can derive anything you want from them. Perhaps the minority (if there were one) would possibly even bring in representatives from True the Vote themselves. It should be allowed (if not desired) given the rules of evidence and that the pseudo prosecution breached the subject in follow up to Barr's comments . But, but it is not a trial! (where some fairness for the defendant is maintained). No duh! Its funny how Barr was once thought to be a self-serving stooge when he seemingly laughed off the claims of Obstruction of Justice by Trump for his tweets and comments that mocked or questioned those behind the investigations of the Russia Hoax but now he is next to Socrates in his wisdom...especially with his Masters Degree in RF Engineering and Geolocation. Could you imagine Barr saying.. "There could be something to the 2000 Mules claims. Perhaps I didn't look hard enough at the events surrounding the election and shouldn't have resigned"? "characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder." |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Jun 14, 2022 0:38:46 GMT -8
William Barr is a die hard Conservative Republican. He has no reason whatsoever to lie. He is singularly concerned about the future of this country if we continue down this path.
He lays it out here as to how 2,000 Mules fails to even come close to making it's case...
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Post by uwphoto on Jun 14, 2022 1:08:33 GMT -8
William Barr is a die hard Conservative Republican. He has no reason whatsoever to lie. He is singularly concerned about the future of this country if we continue down this path. He lays it out here as to how 2,000 Mules fails to even come close to making it's case... Can't wait for the Ptsdtroll response!🤣 |
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 29, 2022 13:27:34 GMT -8
2000 Mules?
More like No More Sales.
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Post by azson on Aug 29, 2022 13:31:30 GMT -8
2000 Mules? More like No More Sales. Could the OP and this author be more predictably FOS? |
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