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Post by aztecryan on May 31, 2022 19:56:13 GMT -8
If you're making an argument that something happened, claim to have the evidence, but then only give the circumstantial evidence and don't show the evidence - that you claim to have - that would be the conclusive, incontrovertible evidence, that undermines your entire claim. You've made the claim that you have this absolute evidence that proves your charges, but you don't show it. Why? Because you don't really have the evidence, and you're just trying to obfuscate that fact? You're trying to stick with the circumstantial evidence and then provide other details to make it APPEAR that you're presenting absolute concrete evidence when you're really not. Why be manipulative and dishonest like that? It makes the whole thing look faked. And the fact that they didn't even investigate the Republicans for the same thing just proves that it's a hit piece with an agenda. In this case a very DANGEROUS agenda - discrediting the entire electoral process in this country. When one side believes that elections cannot be valid, how long do you think it takes before another coup/insurrection is attempted? This entire process can do nothing but justify the Republicans overturning elections and creating a totalitarian/authoritarian state where they hold on to power indefinitely because they claim that the electoral process is fraudulent. The only thing that stopped that in January 2021 was the letter from every living former Secretary of Defense, warning EVERYONE in the military that backing Trump's coup attempt would be treason and punishable as such. Many people believe that the Covid 19 outbreak was the fault of a CCP Bio Lab leak and likely not caused by menu item #2, the Bat & Pangolin Soup. While Jon Stewart, for example, believes that too and, while he has no "absolute evidence" for that belief, he does have at least half a brain IMO and that is enough. We live in a world where some lies offered by a Russian stooge over drinks in a bar gets an FBI surveillance warrant authorized against an entirely innocent Carter Page, so why not empanel a Grand Jury to ask questions of, let say, the cell phone owners most implicated by the Geospatial data (like anyone who went to over 20 drop box and 3 NGOs locations per the data) and see where it goes? And some speak of Geospatial data accuracy (or inaccuracies), I've heard people say the technique is on par with tracking the location of people with ankle bracelets. And people go back to jail with those accuracies. True the Vote does not have the force of the law behind them. They can't subpoena anyone, so they give us the raw data and let reason take over. But for the True Believers, they are loathe to investigate this with any seriousness. Its like any reasonable doubt, no matter how small, is enough for them to make claims that the premise is rediculous or worse. Its the Emperor has no Clothes meets the True Believers. Nothing will ever let them see anything that corroborates Trump's assertion of a tainted election. But take a look at HR1. The Democrats want to codify and legalize ballot harvesting everywhere. They know how the election was won and want to make sure they can do it again in the future without their operatives having to wear latex gloves as they drop off the ballots.  Nothing will ever let them see a tainted election because it wasn't tainted. Trump-appointed judges ascertained the same conclusion. You've heard people say that Geospatial tracking is the same as tracking ankle monitors? Uh, negative. |
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Post by sdsuball on May 31, 2022 20:54:12 GMT -8
If you're making an argument that something happened, claim to have the evidence, but then only give the circumstantial evidence and don't show the evidence - that you claim to have - that would be the conclusive, incontrovertible evidence, that undermines your entire claim. You've made the claim that you have this absolute evidence that proves your charges, but you don't show it. Why? Because you don't really have the evidence, and you're just trying to obfuscate that fact? You're trying to stick with the circumstantial evidence and then provide other details to make it APPEAR that you're presenting absolute concrete evidence when you're really not. Why be manipulative and dishonest like that? It makes the whole thing look faked. And the fact that they didn't even investigate the Republicans for the same thing just proves that it's a hit piece with an agenda. In this case a very DANGEROUS agenda - discrediting the entire electoral process in this country. When one side believes that elections cannot be valid, how long do you think it takes before another coup/insurrection is attempted? This entire process can do nothing but justify the Republicans overturning elections and creating a totalitarian/authoritarian state where they hold on to power indefinitely because they claim that the electoral process is fraudulent. The only thing that stopped that in January 2021 was the letter from every living former Secretary of Defense, warning EVERYONE in the military that backing Trump's coup attempt would be treason and punishable as such. Many people believe that the Covid 19 outbreak was the fault of a CCP Bio Lab leak and likely not caused by menu item #2, the Bat & Pangolin Soup. While Jon Stewart, for example, believes that too and, while he has no "absolute evidence" for that belief, he does have at least half a brain IMO and that is enough. We live in a world where some lies offered by a Russian stooge over drinks in a bar gets an FBI surveillance warrant authorized against an entirely innocent Carter Page, so why not empanel a Grand Jury to ask questions of, let say, the cell phone owners most implicated by the Geospatial data (like anyone who went to over 20 drop box and 3 NGOs locations per the data) and see where it goes? And some speak of Geospatial data accuracy (or inaccuracies), I've heard people say the technique is on par with tracking the location of people with ankle bracelets. And people go back to jail with those accuracies. True the Vote does not have the force of the law behind them. They can't subpoena anyone, so they give us the raw data and let reason take over. But for the True Believers, they are loathe to investigate this with any seriousness. Its like any reasonable doubt, no matter how small, is enough for them to make claims that the premise is rediculous or worse. Its the Emperor has no Clothes meets the True Believers. Nothing will ever let them see anything that corroborates Trump's assertion of a tainted election. But take a look at HR1. The Democrats want to codify and legalize ballot harvesting everywhere. They know how the election was won and want to make sure they can do it again in the future without their operatives having to wear latex gloves as they drop off the ballots.  There's a pretty big difference with the origin of COVID - the source of the outbreak still hasn't been found. Not to mention the Chinese government isn't the most trustworthy when it comes to these types of things. But comparing Democratic politicians (as well as the various judges, and state officials of both the Republican party and Democratic party) to the communist regime is a ridiculous comparison - and you know it. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on May 31, 2022 21:42:55 GMT -8
Many people believe that the Covid 19 outbreak was the fault of a CCP Bio Lab leak and likely not caused by menu item #2, the Bat & Pangolin Soup. While Jon Stewart, for example, believes that too and, while he has no "absolute evidence" for that belief, he does have at least half a brain IMO and that is enough. We live in a world where some lies offered by a Russian stooge over drinks in a bar gets an FBI surveillance warrant authorized against an entirely innocent Carter Page, so why not empanel a Grand Jury to ask questions of, let say, the cell phone owners most implicated by the Geospatial data (like anyone who went to over 20 drop box and 3 NGOs locations per the data) and see where it goes? And some speak of Geospatial data accuracy (or inaccuracies), I've heard people say the technique is on par with tracking the location of people with ankle bracelets. And people go back to jail with those accuracies. True the Vote does not have the force of the law behind them. They can't subpoena anyone, so they give us the raw data and let reason take over. But for the True Believers, they are loathe to investigate this with any seriousness. Its like any reasonable doubt, no matter how small, is enough for them to make claims that the premise is rediculous or worse. Its the Emperor has no Clothes meets the True Believers. Nothing will ever let them see anything that corroborates Trump's assertion of a tainted election. But take a look at HR1. The Democrats want to codify and legalize ballot harvesting everywhere. They know how the election was won and want to make sure they can do it again in the future without their operatives having to wear latex gloves as they drop off the ballots. "Just find me 11,780 votes"! Exactly. We have A RECORDING of Trump pressuring the Secretary of State for Georgia to come up with thousands of votes that didn't exist. That is clear cut, irrefutable evidence of him trying to commit election fraud. A f****** FELONY!!!! Why is he not in prison? Trump is the one who committed election fraud, not Biden. This is typical of the Republican playbook - deflect, defend, and then attack. |
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Post by uwphoto on Jun 1, 2022 4:47:46 GMT -8
The orange cancer of a man is claiming fraud, and putting out conspiracy theories, for Republican races in Georgia and Pennsylvania. This is the kind of pure $#!+ that trolls like ptsdtroll are pushing...Make America Great Again? Biggest joke in 200 years. Except its not a joke because we are diminished every day but it.
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Post by ptsdthor on Jun 1, 2022 9:18:15 GMT -8
Many people believe that the Covid 19 outbreak was the fault of a CCP Bio Lab leak and likely not caused by menu item #2, the Bat & Pangolin Soup. While Jon Stewart, for example, believes that too and, while he has no "absolute evidence" for that belief, he does have at least half a brain IMO and that is enough. We live in a world where some lies offered by a Russian stooge over drinks in a bar gets an FBI surveillance warrant authorized against an entirely innocent Carter Page, so why not empanel a Grand Jury to ask questions of, let say, the cell phone owners most implicated by the Geospatial data (like anyone who went to over 20 drop box and 3 NGOs locations per the data) and see where it goes? And some speak of Geospatial data accuracy (or inaccuracies), I've heard people say the technique is on par with tracking the location of people with ankle bracelets. And people go back to jail with those accuracies. True the Vote does not have the force of the law behind them. They can't subpoena anyone, so they give us the raw data and let reason take over. But for the True Believers, they are loathe to investigate this with any seriousness. Its like any reasonable doubt, no matter how small, is enough for them to make claims that the premise is rediculous or worse. Its the Emperor has no Clothes meets the True Believers. Nothing will ever let them see anything that corroborates Trump's assertion of a tainted election. But take a look at HR1. The Democrats want to codify and legalize ballot harvesting everywhere. They know how the election was won and want to make sure they can do it again in the future without their operatives having to wear latex gloves as they drop off the ballots. Nothing will ever let them see a tainted election because it wasn't tainted. Trump-appointed judges ascertained the same conclusion. You've heard people say that Geospatial tracking is the same as tracking ankle monitors? Uh, negative. Accuracies good enough for Democrat Government Lifers to implicate and identify 1/6 rioters after the fact but not good enough to show people going to ballot drop boxes and Democrat Non-Profit HQs in the area. Funny how that works. I read an article trying to debunk the accuracies and claimed that cellphone location data can only reliably track a smartphone within a few meters - Oh the horror! |
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 1, 2022 10:30:54 GMT -8
Nothing will ever let them see a tainted election because it wasn't tainted. Trump-appointed judges ascertained the same conclusion. You've heard people say that Geospatial tracking is the same as tracking ankle monitors? Uh, negative. Accuracies good enough for Democrat Government Lifers to implicate and identify 1/6 rioters after the fact but not good enough to show people going to ballot drop boxes and Democrat Non-Profit HQs in the area. Funny how that works. I read an article trying to debunk the accuracies and claimed that cellphone location data can only reliably track a smartphone within a few meters - Oh the horror! Yeah, because those two situations are remotely the same? Where are the dropboxes located? On private, government property? No? Okay. Makes perfect sense. Grasping at straws. How are you okay with the erosion of democracy? And....Donald Trump? Seriously? Why would you choose THIS hill? |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Jun 1, 2022 11:35:40 GMT -8
Yeah, the whole, "Election impropriety," thing smacks of complete hypocrisy...  |
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Post by uwphoto on Jun 1, 2022 12:05:47 GMT -8
Nothing will ever let them see a tainted election because it wasn't tainted. Trump-appointed judges ascertained the same conclusion. You've heard people say that Geospatial tracking is the same as tracking ankle monitors? Uh, negative. Accuracies good enough for Democrat Government Lifers to implicate and identify 1/6 rioters after the fact but not good enough to show people going to ballot drop boxes and Democrat Non-Profit HQs in the area. Funny how that works. I read an article trying to debunk the accuracies and claimed that cellphone location data can only reliably track a smartphone within a few meters - Oh the horror! Are you also tracking cell phones at Republican races in Pennsylvania and Georgia? trump says those are rigged too. This orange POS is the single biggest bull$#!+ artist in the history of America. As you might recall, he was saying before the 2020 election that "the only way I can lose is if it's rigged". So he was setting up the scenario. If you notice, he always gives himself an out. Such as the 2024. The only way I won't run is if I get a doctor's letter. Think trump has ever bought off a doctor before? "There's a sucker born every minute". |
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Post by ptsdthor on Jun 2, 2022 7:36:03 GMT -8
Accuracies good enough for Democrat Government Lifers to implicate and identify 1/6 rioters after the fact but not good enough to show people going to ballot drop boxes and Democrat Non-Profit HQs in the area. Funny how that works. I read an article trying to debunk the accuracies and claimed that cellphone location data can only reliably track a smartphone within a few meters - Oh the horror! Yeah, because those two situations are remotely the same? Where are the dropboxes located? On private, government property? No? Okay. Makes perfect sense. Grasping at straws. How are you okay with the erosion of democracy? And....Donald Trump? Seriously? Why would you choose THIS hill? If you can find a way to agree with and endorse and the on-going crimes being perpetrated at our Southern border directed by the Biden Admin, please spare me your sense of incredulity about anything political. People are dying as we type because of that and more. 99% of the asylum claims are phony. The detained are not showing up for their hearings and the Admin knows and supports that. The Mexican Drug Cartels are making hundreds of millions at our expense. China Fentanyl is coming over in loads. Human trafficking and sex trafficking abounds. People are dying of exposure. People are dying of overdoses from the smuggled drugs. People are being kidnapped in the US to force payment to Cartels for trafficking, drugs, etc. Get aways are in the thousands and thousands for people that we have no idea as to who they are. Etc., Etc. Do you know anyone who has tried to immigrate to Australia or New Zealand or Canada, for example? Do I have to tell you how hard that is? Have you seen the penalties for trafficking in drugs with other civilized countries? Are they Racist or are they just trying to take good care of their citizens? Do you lock the doors to your home at night? Why? Are you a racist and hater or are you simply taking care of your and your family's safety? But but Russian Collusion, the Ukraine phone call, mean tweets and Jan 6th... He was convinced of a actual fraudulent election and acted as he felt he must. 2000 Mules shows us a part of that. That is why the realities exposed by True the Vote and 2000 Mules can not be acknowledged. americanmind.org/features/the-haunting-of-the-american-mind/the-fraud-that-dare-not-speak-its-name/Perhaps he should have just put his tail between his legs and let Zuckerberg and the Dem machine win without complaint but he didn’t. Boo hoo. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 2, 2022 8:31:41 GMT -8
Yeah, because those two situations are remotely the same? Where are the dropboxes located? On private, government property? No? Okay. Makes perfect sense. Grasping at straws. How are you okay with the erosion of democracy? And....Donald Trump? Seriously? Why would you choose THIS hill? If you can find a way to agree with and endorse and the on-going crimes being perpetrated at our Southern border directed by the Biden Admin, please spare me your sense of incredulity about anything political. People are dying as we type because of that and more. 99% of the asylum claims are phony. The detained are not showing up for their hearings and the Admin knows and supports that. The Mexican Drug Cartels are making hundreds of millions at our expense. China Fentanyl is coming over in loads. Human trafficking and sex trafficking abounds. People are dying of exposure. People are dying of overdoses from the smuggled drugs. People are being kidnapped in the US to force payment to Cartels for trafficking, drugs, etc. Get aways are in the thousands and thousands for people that we have no idea as to who they are. Etc., Etc. Do you know anyone who has tried to immigrate to Australia or New Zealand or Canada, for example? Do I have to tell you how hard that is? Have you seen the penalties for trafficking in drugs with other civilized countries? Are they Racist or are they just trying to take good care of their citizens? Do you lock the doors to your home at night? Why? Are you a racist and hater or are you simply taking care of your and your family's safety? But but Russian Collusion, the Ukraine phone call, mean tweets and Jan 6th... He was convinced of a actual fraudulent election and acted as he felt he must. 2000 Mules shows us a part of that. That is why the realities exposed by True the Vote and 2000 Mules can not be acknowledged. americanmind.org/features/the-haunting-of-the-american-mind/the-fraud-that-dare-not-speak-its-name/Perhaps he should have just put his tail between his legs and let Zuckerberg and the Dem machine win without complaint but he didn’t. Boo hoo. I'll spare you the time because I know you cannot source your 99% figure, much like the hilarious GOP self-owns when they tweet about fetanyl and other drugs being seized at the border (like, whoa...they are doing their job? And it works?) Who knew? There was no fraud, except on the side of your idol (LOL, he's a failed reality TV huckster/grifter, why?)...and we will not forget January 6th. He failed. He lost the popular vote twice. He's the worst president in modern history. Dinesh D'Souza being a complete quack doesn't change that. Nothing in 2000 Mules is relevant, trustworthy or proof of anything. Trump, though, did commit a felony in Georgia. But I assume that's okay because it fits your "woke" agenda. |
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Post by uwphoto on Jun 2, 2022 8:50:34 GMT -8
Yeah, because those two situations are remotely the same? Where are the dropboxes located? On private, government property? No? Okay. Makes perfect sense. Grasping at straws. How are you okay with the erosion of democracy? And....Donald Trump? Seriously? Why would you choose THIS hill? If you can find a way to agree with and endorse and the on-going crimes being perpetrated at our Southern border directed by the Biden Admin, please spare me your sense of incredulity about anything political. People are dying as we type because of that and more. 99% of the asylum claims are phony. The detained are not showing up for their hearings and the Admin knows and supports that. The Mexican Drug Cartels are making hundreds of millions at our expense. China Fentanyl is coming over in loads. Human trafficking and sex trafficking abounds. People are dying of exposure. People are dying of overdoses from the smuggled drugs. People are being kidnapped in the US to force payment to Cartels for trafficking, drugs, etc. Get aways are in the thousands and thousands for people that we have no idea as to who they are. Etc., Etc. Do you know anyone who has tried to immigrate to Australia or New Zealand or Canada, for example? Do I have to tell you how hard that is? Have you seen the penalties for trafficking in drugs with other civilized countries? Are they Racist or are they just trying to take good care of their citizens? Do you lock the doors to your home at night? Why? Are you a racist and hater or are you simply taking care of your and your family's safety? But but Russian Collusion, the Ukraine phone call, mean tweets and Jan 6th... He was convinced of a actual fraudulent election and acted as he felt he must. 2000 Mules shows us a part of that. That is why the realities exposed by True the Vote and 2000 Mules can not be acknowledged. americanmind.org/features/the-haunting-of-the-american-mind/the-fraud-that-dare-not-speak-its-name/Perhaps he should have just put his tail between his legs and let Zuckerberg and the Dem machine win without complaint but he didn’t. Boo hoo. Question, do you ever post anything that's not a damn talking point? Even you know our only chance is at the demand end regarding dangerous drugs. Most of the drugs flowing into the US are coming in at ports of call. A 100 foot wall would do nothing to stem the flow. I've already posted that there are cheap drones for sale on Amazon that have 10lb. payloads. Since I assume you only care about OD's in rural conservative areas, how bout "just say no"? Wasn't that a Republican talking point from the 80's? "He was convinced of an actual fraudulent election". This is the hilarious part. Before the 2020, he said the election would be "rigged" if he lost. So he was convinced before the election? Is that what you are saying? Also, he is saying the recent Georgia election is "rigged". Is there a 200 mules film coming out about that? How bout you post something that takes critical thought for once? |
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Jun 2, 2022 11:03:31 GMT -8
Nothing will ever let them see a tainted election because it wasn't tainted. Trump-appointed judges ascertained the same conclusion. You've heard people say that Geospatial tracking is the same as tracking ankle monitors? Uh, negative. Accuracies good enough for Democrat Government Lifers to implicate and identify 1/6 rioters after the fact but not good enough to show people going to ballot drop boxes and Democrat Non-Profit HQs in the area. Funny how that works. I read an article trying to debunk the accuracies and claimed that cellphone location data can only reliably track a smartphone within a few meters - Oh the horror! Where's the beef?!!...let's see the proof in a court of law...all this tracking this...and ballot box that...did the space shuttle and National Security spy satellites fly over the area at the same time too?!...where's the solid proof that the election results are not valid?...if you and your ilk cannot produce that...then you're just being gaslighted.... |
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Post by aztecmusician on Jun 5, 2022 21:35:57 GMT -8
It’s clear that our election process is in need of an overhaul. For every irregularity the Democrats point to, the Republicans site 2 more. It is difficult to has any semblance of confidence in the system when BOTH SIDES bitch and bicker about every major election. The polling process needs to be more streamlined and simplified and the mail in (not absentee) ballots should be only for remote rural areas.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 6, 2022 7:40:53 GMT -8
It’s clear that our election process is in need of an overhaul. For every irregularity the Democrats point to, the Republicans site 2 more. It is difficult to has any semblance of confidence in the system when BOTH SIDES bitch and bicker about every major election. The polling process needs to be more streamlined and simplified and the mail in (not absentee) ballots should be only for remote rural areas. There's absolutely nothing wrong with mail-in voting. Five states have exclusively used mail-in voting (i.e. Utah) without issue for several election cycles. Then 2020 came around and the GOP cries foul because their candidate lost a legitimate election based on a record number of votes in a two-party system where their candidate also received a record number of votes. There's a massive, massive difference between actual widespread fraud, like Trump claimed (without basis, debunked in the courts dozens of times) and what happened in 2016. The losing side is almost always going to find fault because they spend hundreds of millions of dollars to campaign. That doesn't mean the process doesn't work, nor does it mean that the boogeyman the GOP tries to insinuate exists actually does. The GOP tries to actively restrict voter access. They make it *harder* for people to vote. Streamlined? My polling place was a couple blocks away. I dropped off my ballot in person in less than 5 minutes. It was about as streamlined as it gets. Is it the same everywhere across the country? Of course not. Rural Arkansas is not the same as downtown El Cajon. |
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Post by aztecmusician on Jun 6, 2022 11:39:12 GMT -8
It’s clear that our election process is in need of an overhaul. For every irregularity the Democrats point to, the Republicans site 2 more. It is difficult to has any semblance of confidence in the system when BOTH SIDES bitch and bicker about every major election. The polling process needs to be more streamlined and simplified and the mail in (not absentee) ballots should be only for remote rural areas. There's absolutely nothing wrong with mail-in voting. Five states have exclusively used mail-in voting (i.e. Utah) without issue for several election cycles. Then 2020 came around and the GOP cries foul because their candidate lost a legitimate election based on a record number of votes in a two-party system where their candidate also received a record number of votes. There's a massive, massive difference between actual widespread fraud, like Trump claimed (without basis, debunked in the courts dozens of times) and what happened in 2016. The losing side is almost always going to find fault because they spend hundreds of millions of dollars to campaign. That doesn't mean the process doesn't work, nor does it mean that the boogeyman the GOP tries to insinuate exists actually does. The GOP tries to actively restrict voter access. They make it *harder* for people to vote. Streamlined? My polling place was a couple blocks away. I dropped off my ballot in person in less than 5 minutes. It was about as streamlined as it gets. Is it the same everywhere across the country? Of course not. Rural Arkansas is not the same as downtown El Cajon. The mail in ballots have been a point of contention for BOTH SIDES. A couple of years ago I lived in a house which had been rented to 3 different tenants in 5 years and I got in the mail 4 separate ballots plus my own. That is not a secure process. The Dems like this, because it makes it easy to stuff a mailbox full of THEIR VOTES, because they are the ones handling them before they get put in the mail. The GOP claims fraud. Hillary’s campaign claimed fraud. Therefore there must be fraud. Why do you like the fraudulent process?? Mail in voting should only be used in isolated rural areas. The temptation to harvest and shuffle the ballots is too great, plus it is not a secure process. And please don’t use the term “voter suppression”, that term is a complete lie. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 6, 2022 12:35:21 GMT -8
There's absolutely nothing wrong with mail-in voting. Five states have exclusively used mail-in voting (i.e. Utah) without issue for several election cycles. Then 2020 came around and the GOP cries foul because their candidate lost a legitimate election based on a record number of votes in a two-party system where their candidate also received a record number of votes. There's a massive, massive difference between actual widespread fraud, like Trump claimed (without basis, debunked in the courts dozens of times) and what happened in 2016. The losing side is almost always going to find fault because they spend hundreds of millions of dollars to campaign. That doesn't mean the process doesn't work, nor does it mean that the boogeyman the GOP tries to insinuate exists actually does. The GOP tries to actively restrict voter access. They make it *harder* for people to vote. Streamlined? My polling place was a couple blocks away. I dropped off my ballot in person in less than 5 minutes. It was about as streamlined as it gets. Is it the same everywhere across the country? Of course not. Rural Arkansas is not the same as downtown El Cajon. The mail in ballots have been a point of contention for BOTH SIDES. A couple of years ago I lived in a house which had been rented to 3 different tenants in 5 years and I got in the mail 4 separate ballots plus my own. That is not a secure process. The Dems like this, because it makes it easy to stuff a mailbox full of THEIR VOTES, because they are the ones handling them before they get put in the mail. The GOP claims fraud. Hillary’s campaign claimed fraud. Therefore there must be fraud. Why do you like the fraudulent process?? Mail in voting should only be used in isolated rural areas. The temptation to harvest and shuffle the ballots is too great, plus it is not a secure process. And please don’t use the term “voter suppression”, that term is a complete lie. Because I can spot the difference between validity and stupidity. It's pretty simple. We know Russia favored Trump based on actual evidence that emerged from the Kremlin in 2016. We know Russia interfered for express purposes of favoring Trump and disrupting the Clinton campaign. We know Trump lost the popular vote (twice) and therefore can logically conclude that there are valid reasons to be concerned about foreign interference. The rest of your statement, much like most of your disillusioned fantasies...is pure garbage and not worth the time to respond to. Please tell minority voters in Texas that they aren't being suppressed, that'll be news to them! |
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 6, 2022 14:14:56 GMT -8
There's absolutely nothing wrong with mail-in voting. Five states have exclusively used mail-in voting (i.e. Utah) without issue for several election cycles. Then 2020 came around and the GOP cries foul because their candidate lost a legitimate election based on a record number of votes in a two-party system where their candidate also received a record number of votes. There's a massive, massive difference between actual widespread fraud, like Trump claimed (without basis, debunked in the courts dozens of times) and what happened in 2016. The losing side is almost always going to find fault because they spend hundreds of millions of dollars to campaign. That doesn't mean the process doesn't work, nor does it mean that the boogeyman the GOP tries to insinuate exists actually does. The GOP tries to actively restrict voter access. They make it *harder* for people to vote. Streamlined? My polling place was a couple blocks away. I dropped off my ballot in person in less than 5 minutes. It was about as streamlined as it gets. Is it the same everywhere across the country? Of course not. Rural Arkansas is not the same as downtown El Cajon. The mail in ballots have been a point of contention for BOTH SIDES. A couple of years ago I lived in a house which had been rented to 3 different tenants in 5 years and I got in the mail 4 separate ballots plus my own. That is not a secure process. The Dems like this, because it makes it easy to stuff a mailbox full of THEIR VOTES, because they are the ones handling them before they get put in the mail. The GOP claims fraud. Hillary’s campaign claimed fraud. Therefore there must be fraud. Why do you like the fraudulent process?? Mail in voting should only be used in isolated rural areas. The temptation to harvest and shuffle the ballots is too great, plus it is not a secure process. And please don’t use the term “voter suppression”, that term is a complete lie. Please elaborate on voter suppression being a complete lie. Genuinely curious. |
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Post by aztecmusician on Jun 6, 2022 16:45:38 GMT -8
The mail in ballots have been a point of contention for BOTH SIDES. A couple of years ago I lived in a house which had been rented to 3 different tenants in 5 years and I got in the mail 4 separate ballots plus my own. That is not a secure process. The Dems like this, because it makes it easy to stuff a mailbox full of THEIR VOTES, because they are the ones handling them before they get put in the mail. The GOP claims fraud. Hillary’s campaign claimed fraud. Therefore there must be fraud. Why do you like the fraudulent process?? Mail in voting should only be used in isolated rural areas. The temptation to harvest and shuffle the ballots is too great, plus it is not a secure process. And please don’t use the term “voter suppression”, that term is a complete lie. Please elaborate on voter suppression being a complete lie. Genuinely curious. Go and look up the term “Dixiecrat” if you want to see what true voter suppression is about. Today if the Democrat Party doesn’t like the polling, they will push for last minute changes in voting rules…the same rules they themselves agreed to earlier. The term “voter suppression” is brought out when the Republicans don’t agree to the rule changes. It’s a political catch phrase. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 6, 2022 19:31:08 GMT -8
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Post by aztecmusician on Jun 7, 2022 3:36:28 GMT -8
I broke my rule not to respond to you in the political board this one time. Your rudeness did not disappoint. |
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