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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 18, 2021 13:01:39 GMT -8
The deaths of people after taking a covid vaccination(s) are real. My two jabbed landlords are dead and that it was jabbed caused. Just this week, There was the death of Kevione Faulk, 19, daughter of LSU's and former New England Patriots Kevin Faulk. Yet, news articles on her death leaves out jab status and cause of death. My first question when a person suddenly dies in any age range is Did they take a covid vaccine? It is troubling that only jabbed fans can attend games or go to most colleges. It is time to oppose this jabbed only discrimination of the unjabbed. Ummmm... Not to be skeptical or anything, but I'm pretty sure that there are other causes of death for those people. I'd be willing to bet that there is ZERO conclusive evidence linking those deaths with their vaccinations. However, we do know for a fact that over 600,000 Americans have died of COVID as they died due to the COVID symptoms (respiratory and cardiac failure after being deathly ill from COVID). One is a VERY real threat proven hundreds of thousands of times. The other is an imagined threat based on circumstantial evidence, and weak circumstantial evidence at that.
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Post by North County Aztec on Sept 18, 2021 13:45:43 GMT -8
Geezus. For the unvaxxed: Just go get your shot and quit whining like a six-year-old crybaby. No one's asking you to storm the beaches at Normandy. Or sit in solitary confinement at Alcatraz. We all know how much you hate eating broccoli, which really has nothing to do with basic health hygiene or protecting yourself, your family and your community. Your assertion is simply ridiculous. I’m unvaccinated and will always be. I’m not crying or whining, but I did come damn close to crying when I took a bullet for the United State in one of our foolish wars. I was confined to a hospital bed in Beaufort, South Carolina recovering from wounds for almost six months. I’m not vaccinated for two reasons: 1) I don’t want it 2) My cardiologist and pulmonologist advised against it. I will wear a mask. I do carry hand sanitizer with me at all times. I do carry my seizure medication that might be less effective if I were vaccinated, per my doctors. I also have a service dog that is seizure trained to give me advance warning of an attack. But I can’t attend a football game. There needs to be some type of provision for people that can not be vaccinated, at least for those that are not crying and whining. BTW I love broccoli.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 18, 2021 13:50:13 GMT -8
Geezus. For the unvaxxed: Just go get your shot and quit whining like a six-year-old crybaby. No one's asking you to storm the beaches at Normandy. Or sit in solitary confinement at Alcatraz. We all know how much you hate eating broccoli, which really has nothing to do with basic health hygiene or protecting yourself, your family and your community. Your assertion is simply ridiculous. I’m unvaccinated and will always be. I’m not crying or whining, but I did come damn close to crying when I took a bullet for the United State in one of our foolish wars. I was confined to a hospital bed in Beaufort, South Carolina recovering from wounds for almost six months. I’m not vaccinated for two reasons: 1) I don’t want it 2) My cardiologist and pulmonologist advised against it. I will wear a mask. I do carry hand sanitizer with me at all times. I do carry my seizure medication that might be less effective if I were vaccinated, per my doctors. I also have a service dog that is seizure trained to give me advance warning of an attack. But I can’t attend a football game. There needs to be some type of provision for people that can not be vaccinated, at least for those that are not crying and whining. BTW I love broccoli. The number of people in your position, where there are legitimate health concerns PRIOR to getting vaccinated (where getting vaccinated could potentially pose a risk), is very small. Most people CAN and SHOULD get vaccinated. Again, what if this were Polio? What if people reacted like this in the 50's when that vaccine was rolled out? We'd still have a significant number of people suffering (and, eventually, dying) from polio today. Vaccines are not inherently bad - they are a very, VERY good thing. How in the world did we get to a place where preventing deaths is seen as an affront to peoples' freedoms? It's insane.
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Post by North County Aztec on Sept 18, 2021 14:12:50 GMT -8
Your assertion is simply ridiculous. I’m unvaccinated and will always be. I’m not crying or whining, but I did come damn close to crying when I took a bullet for the United State in one of our foolish wars. I was confined to a hospital bed in Beaufort, South Carolina recovering from wounds for almost six months. I’m not vaccinated for two reasons: 1) I don’t want it 2) My cardiologist and pulmonologist advised against it. I will wear a mask. I do carry hand sanitizer with me at all times. I do carry my seizure medication that might be less effective if I were vaccinated, per my doctors. I also have a service dog that is seizure trained to give me advance warning of an attack. But I can’t attend a football game. There needs to be some type of provision for people that can not be vaccinated, at least for those that are not crying and whining. BTW I love broccoli. The number of people in your position, where there are legitimate health concerns PRIOR to getting vaccinated (where getting vaccinated could potentially pose a risk), is very small. Most people CAN and SHOULD get vaccinated. Again, what if this were Polio? What if people reacted like this in the 50's when that vaccine was rolled out? We'd still have a significant number of people suffering (and, eventually, dying) from polio today. Vaccines are not inherently bad - they are a very, VERY good thing. How in the world did we get to a place where preventing deaths is seen as an affront to peoples' freedoms? It's insane. Why is there an American Disabilities Act? It protects a few or are you advocating people like me are meaningless because we are a small group? We can not attend a football game. You should read my post again. I'm not anti-vax, never said that. And I did have polio in the early 50's and damn lucky I fully recovered. Also there wasn't a second, third or any follow up jab. Big difference.
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Post by Den60 on Sept 18, 2021 14:37:00 GMT -8
The deaths of people after taking a covid vaccination(s) are real. My two jabbed landlords are dead and that it was jabbed caused. Just this week, There was the death of Kevione Faulk, 19, daughter of LSU's and former New England Patriots Kevin Faulk. Yet, news articles on her death leaves out jab status and cause of death. My first question when a person suddenly dies in any age range is Did they take a covid vaccine? It is troubling that only jabbed fans can attend games or go to most colleges. It is time to oppose this jabbed only discrimination of the unjabbed. Ummmm... Not to be skeptical or anything, but I'm pretty sure that there are other causes of death for those people. I'd be willing to bet that there is ZERO conclusive evidence linking those deaths with their vaccinations. However, we do know for a fact that over 600,000 Americans have died of COVID as they died due to the COVID symptoms (respiratory and cardiac failure after being deathly ill from COVID). One is a VERY real threat proven hundreds of thousands of times. The other is an imagined threat based on circumstantial evidence, and weak circumstantial evidence at that. Perhaps those 600K deaths were people who died with COVID and not dying from COVID? Again, here is the question I ask: Why do the vaccinated need to be protected if the vaccine is effective? And if the vaccine isn't effective, why demand other people to get it? It is a very simple question.
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Post by aztecnails on Sept 18, 2021 15:00:01 GMT -8
On Oct. 22, 2020, The FDA showed a slide that lists side effects of the jabs and deaths is one of them. This is available at 2020 FDA slide jab side effects. A coroner investigating the death of BBC radio presenter Lisa Shaw ruled that she died of jab caused blood clots. Jacob Clynick, 13, died in his sleep three days after jab, Chi memorial nurse Tiffany Dover Pontes fainted on video at a jab press conference in December 2020 after taking the jab and within days she died according to her husband. Brand New Tube has videos of family members who died after jab (Ernest Ramirez said his son died 5 days of enlarge heart after jab. More vaccine deaths are reported by VAERS and vaxpain.us webpage. The reason why people died with covid was Covid patients having co-morbidities and doctors not using the treatment drugs like Ivermectin, HCQ and Regeneron like India and Japan did and putting Americans on Remdesivir and/or on a ventilator. In contrast, heavily jabbed Italy is reporting more covid cases among the fully jabbed. Concluding, even the FDA is realizing that the jabs are dangerous and why they voted down the boosters 16-2.
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Post by azman on Sept 18, 2021 15:44:13 GMT -8
On Oct. 22, 2020, The FDA showed a slide that lists side effects of the jabs and deaths is one of them. This is available at 2020 FDA slide jab side effects. A coroner investigating the death of BBC radio presenter Lisa Shaw ruled that she died of jab caused blood clots. Jacob Clynick, 13, died in his sleep three days after jab, Chi memorial nurse Tiffany Dover Pontes fainted on video at a jab press conference in December 2020 after taking the jab and within days she died according to her husband. Brand New Tube has videos of family members who died after jab (Ernest Ramirez said his son died 5 days of enlarge heart after jab. More vaccine deaths are reported by VAERS and vaxpain.us webpage. The reason why people died with covid was Covid patients having co-morbidities and doctors not using the treatment drugs like Ivermectin, HCQ and Regeneron like India and Japan did and putting Americans on Remdesivir and/or on a ventilator. In contrast, heavily jabbed Italy is reporting more covid cases among the fully jabbed. Concluding, even the FDA is realizing that the jabs are dangerous and why they voted down the boosters 16-2. You’re right. There have been a few deaths due to side effects of the vaccine. Of course there have been 4.6 MILLION deaths worldwide because of Covid. Almost 700k in the US alone. I know, just a small detail….
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Post by azman on Sept 18, 2021 15:46:17 GMT -8
Yup. Read two articles today on this. One about a guy who died of a heart attack because every ER they took him to was full of Covid patients and they couldnt get him in. Another was a 12 year old boy who had his appendix burst and almost died while waiting in the ER for hours and hours because it was full of Covid patients. Not to mention the scores of nurses quitting because of the stress of dealing with never-ending Covid patients for the last 18 months, leading to poorer healthcare for everyone. So yeah, people’s decision to not get vaxxed absolutely affects others. I might also add, people wont get a vaccine because it’s “too new” but are ok getting infected by a deadly virus (possibly genetically altered) the human body has never seen before. And also for the most part, once infected and in pain, have no problem accepting the Regeneron monoclonal antibody treatment which is even less tested than the vaccine! Its astounding what kind of ridiculous crap that people read on social media and actually believe. Yeah, and there was the ER doctor who claimed that gunshot victims were denied entry into hospitals because of people overdosing on ivermectin. The hospital came out and said that that doctor hadn't worked there in months and they had no cases whatsoever due to an overdose of ivermectin. Show me some real data. You know, facts and not hearsay. From what I have heard, hospitals are not being overridden with COVID cases. Do they have patients who have COVID? Yep, they test patients daily. That doesn't mean they were admitted for COVID. Just remember, nationally we are over a 70% fully vaccination rate for those eligible. Still, numbers of COVID cases are still "high." Why is that? We are vaccinated, reached the 70% rate the CDC said we needed to get to for "herd immunity" and yet cases still resemble that of a year ago? Doesn't that cause you to pause and question a bit? For the most part, the risk of death from COVID in the general population is well under 1%. Likely close to .3%. The risk is higher if you are old with diabetes or cardiovascular disease. Way less if you are young and healthy. Really, if you are a person at risk of dying from the flu then you are at risk of dying from COVID. COVID, spreads easier since people can be carriers though have mild symptoms unlike the flu where you normally feel bad enough to stay home. Y'all have been taught to live in fear. I see idiots wearing masks in the cars by themselves. It would be funny to me if it wasn't so indicative of how easily people have been manipulated in this country. Ok, start with these. Took me less than 10 minutes to find www.businessinsider.com/conservative-radio-hosts-anti-maskers-death-covid-19-2021-9www.cnbc.com/2021/08/24/cdc-study-shows-unvaccinated-people-are-29-times-more-likely-to-be-hospitalized-with-covid.htmlwww.businessinsider.com/cancer-patient-surgery-canceled-amid-covid-surge-hospital-crisis-2021-8www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/09/16/1037621883/overwhelmed-with-covid-patients-oregon-hospitals-postpone-surgeries-and-cancer-cwww.wjtv.com/health/coronavirus/at-least-22-mississippi-hospitals-were-out-of-icu-beds-last-week-according-to-the-latest-federal-data/
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 18, 2021 15:55:38 GMT -8
The number of people in your position, where there are legitimate health concerns PRIOR to getting vaccinated (where getting vaccinated could potentially pose a risk), is very small. Most people CAN and SHOULD get vaccinated. Again, what if this were Polio? What if people reacted like this in the 50's when that vaccine was rolled out? We'd still have a significant number of people suffering (and, eventually, dying) from polio today. Vaccines are not inherently bad - they are a very, VERY good thing. How in the world did we get to a place where preventing deaths is seen as an affront to peoples' freedoms? It's insane. Why is there an American Disabilities Act? It protects a few or are you advocating people like me are meaningless because we are a small group? We can not attend a football game. You should read my post again. I'm not anti-vax, never said that. And I did have polio in the early 50's and damn lucky I fully recovered. Also there wasn't a second, third or any follow up jab. Big difference. Stats prove that the vaccine saves lives. Depending on the report, 95%-99% of the fatalities are among the UNvaccinated.
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Post by aztecnails on Sept 18, 2021 20:20:48 GMT -8
The pandemic of the unvaccinated argument is a lie. In July 2021, The CDC put vaccinated deaths if the death was shorter than 14 days from second vax date in the unvaccinated category. This is numbers manipulation. My info is from news reports and doctors and scientists making Brand New Tube videos. One is Dr. Jane Ruby and the La Quinta Columna scientists. The two who I distrust the most are drs. walensky and fauci. Nurses are quitting because of forced vaccinations policy and hospitals are short beds because nurses are quitting leaving hospitals short-staffed. Covid is not a death sentence but medical malpractice involving Remdesivir does kill Covid patients who would have survived if given the Covid treatment drugs.
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Post by azman on Sept 18, 2021 20:37:43 GMT -8
The pandemic of the unvaccinated argument is a lie. In July 2021, The CDC put vaccinated deaths if the death was shorter than 14 days from second vax date in the unvaccinated category. This is numbers manipulation. My info is from news reports and doctors and scientists making Brand New Tube videos. One is Dr. Jane Ruby and the La Quinta Columna scientists. The two who I distrust the most are drs. walensky and fauci. Nurses are quitting because of forced vaccinations policy and hospitals are short beds because nurses are quitting leaving hospitals short-staffed. Covid is not a death sentence but medical malpractice involving Remdesivir does kill Covid patients who would have survived if given the Covid treatment drugs. Lol, “Youtube videos” vs. actual science. Sure, get your facts from youtube and your crazy uncle on Facebook, instead of listening to actual doctors and medical researchers. No wonder the country can’t get past Covid. www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jul/08/facebook-posts/no-evidence-graphene-oxide-s-toxic-pfizer-covid-19/
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Post by darksidereturns on Sept 18, 2021 20:48:36 GMT -8
The pandemic of the unvaccinated argument is a lie. In July 2021, The CDC put vaccinated deaths if the death was shorter than 14 days from second vax date in the unvaccinated category. This is numbers manipulation. My info is from news reports and doctors and scientists making Brand New Tube videos. One is Dr. Jane Ruby and the La Quinta Columna scientists. The two who I distrust the most are drs. walensky and fauci. Nurses are quitting because of forced vaccinations policy and hospitals are short beds because nurses are quitting leaving hospitals short-staffed. Covid is not a death sentence but medical malpractice involving Remdesivir does kill Covid patients who would have survived if given the Covid treatment drugs. If you seek the truth, eventually and objectively you will find it. If you seek your opinion that too you shall find in much less time.
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Post by aztecnails on Sept 18, 2021 21:15:00 GMT -8
I said Brand New Tube. There is Brand New Tube which is separate from youtube. Brand New Tube videos shows doctors and scientists in their own words speaking out against the Covid narrative spoken by the dominate media. After your link, La Quinta Columna scientists from University of Almeria discovered graphene oxide being in the pfizer jab. Confirmed by former pfizer employee Karen Kingston and American doctor Robert Young confirmed graphene oxide being in the pfizer, moderna, astrazeneca and Johnson and Johnson vials. I am not on facebook.
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Post by fisher1fan on Sept 19, 2021 7:02:08 GMT -8
This is very simple as you’re really only asking 1 question. No the government shouldn’t be able to force you to get the vaccine. But, you therefore cannot force your way into these venues and should just stay home, order in, basically stay out of public venues. Enjoy yourself stay safe. I’ll be at the game. And yet, being vaccinated doesn't keep you from either catching or spreading COVID. That is known. So, tell me this, if the vaccine doesn't protect the vaccinated then why do the vaccinated want to demand others to be vaccinated? Our dementia addled mumbler-in-chief said recently, "we need to protect the vaccinated from the unvaccinated (paraphrased, the actual link to the speech is linked below). So tell me, why do the vaccinated need to be protected if the vaccine is effective? And if the vaccine isn't effective, why demand other people to get it? www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2021/09/09/remarks-by-president-biden-on-fighting-the-covid-19-pandemic-3/Do you know what a percentage is? If so, that’s your answer. If not, that’s fine too, but good luck
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Sept 19, 2021 7:23:34 GMT -8
The number of people in your position, where there are legitimate health concerns PRIOR to getting vaccinated (where getting vaccinated could potentially pose a risk), is very small. Most people CAN and SHOULD get vaccinated. Again, what if this were Polio? What if people reacted like this in the 50's when that vaccine was rolled out? We'd still have a significant number of people suffering (and, eventually, dying) from polio today. Vaccines are not inherently bad - they are a very, VERY good thing. How in the world did we get to a place where preventing deaths is seen as an affront to peoples' freedoms? It's insane. Why is there an American Disabilities Act? It protects a few or are you advocating people like me are meaningless because we are a small group? We can not attend a football game. You should read my post again. I'm not anti-vax, never said that. And I did have polio in the early 50's and damn lucky I fully recovered. Also there wasn't a second, third or any follow up jab. Big difference. I'm sure you're a helluva person...and patriot too...but what Constitutional right to you or those of your mindset have to spread a deadly disease?...COVID does not care about your "individual" rights...it's trying to kill or maim us all...and it will use you to do it...with your health issues would you want someone sit next to you smoking a pack of Pall Malls?...that person has "the right" to smoke...to make decisions about his/her individual health...the person paid tax on those cigarettes...so why not sit next to you...your grandkids...or loved ones and blow smoke all over them...it's his right...and if you or your family is harmed by the second-hand smoke...well...tough cookies!!...nobody wants to sit next to somebody and breathe in their second-hand COVID virus...can you understand that?...
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Sept 19, 2021 7:26:48 GMT -8
I said Brand New Tube. There is Brand New Tube which is separate from youtube. Brand New Tube videos shows doctors and scientists in their own words speaking out against the Covid narrative spoken by the dominate media. After your link, La Quinta Columna scientists from University of Almeria discovered graphene oxide being in the pfizer jab. Confirmed by former pfizer employee Karen Kingston and American doctor Robert Young confirmed graphene oxide being in the pfizer, moderna, astrazeneca and Johnson and Johnson vials. I am not on facebook. Is their findings peer-reviewed?...did somebody other than them come to the same conclusions?...somebody obscure said...somebody I never met said...
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Post by 84aztec96 on Sept 19, 2021 7:40:47 GMT -8
I'm vaccinated. And would generally recommend it. Especially for older individuals.
But just putting it out there: Both my wife and daughter got numbness in the face after the vaccine. It hasn't gone away. Doctors think it is from something else. My daughter was pressured to get it and is pissed / worried about the numbness and long term effect. She is extremely healthy. (So is my wife!). She doesn't want to get the second dose...
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Post by fisher1fan on Sept 19, 2021 7:45:05 GMT -8
Geezus. For the unvaxxed: Just go get your shot and quit whining like a six-year-old crybaby. No one's asking you to storm the beaches at Normandy. Or sit in solitary confinement at Alcatraz. We all know how much you hate eating broccoli, which really has nothing to do with basic health hygiene or protecting yourself, your family and your community. Your assertion is simply ridiculous. I’m unvaccinated and will always be. I’m not crying or whining, but I did come damn close to crying when I took a bullet for the United State in one of our foolish wars. I was confined to a hospital bed in Beaufort, South Carolina recovering from wounds for almost six months. I’m not vaccinated for two reasons: 1) I don’t want it 2) My cardiologist and pulmonologist advised against it. I will wear a mask. I do carry hand sanitizer with me at all times. I do carry my seizure medication that might be less effective if I were vaccinated, per my doctors. I also have a service dog that is seizure trained to give me advance warning of an attack. But I can’t attend a football game. There needs to be some type of provision for people that can not be vaccinated, at least for those that are not crying and whining. BTW I love broccoli. I agree that you should be able to get a negative test to enter businesses instead of only showing vaccine status. Listen to your doctors (obviously) and keep checking with them if new vaccines that might come to market (Novavax) are options that they might recommend. There are people who definitely should NOT get a vaccine shot. Medical exemptions are critical. Then there are a significant percentage of people who just don’t want to get them for random reasons: some unfounded. Thanks for your service. Also, it’s okay if you cannot a football game now and again. We have all made changes and had missed opportunities as a result of this situation. I missed a cruise to 4 countries and we all missed March Madness. I hope we can make forward progress both in understanding and also avoiding misinformation which leads to less illogical conclusions by a subset of our society. I also like broccoli, always have. I think it’s best with cheddar
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Post by fisher1fan on Sept 19, 2021 7:59:54 GMT -8
Why is there an American Disabilities Act? It protects a few or are you advocating people like me are meaningless because we are a small group? We can not attend a football game. You should read my post again. I'm not anti-vax, never said that. And I did have polio in the early 50's and damn lucky I fully recovered. Also there wasn't a second, third or any follow up jab. Big difference. I'm sure you're a helluva person...and patriot too...but what Constitutional right to you or those of your mindset have to spread a deadly disease?...COVID does not care about your "individual" rights...it's trying to kill or maim us all...and it will use you to do it...with your health issues would you want someone sit next to you smoking a pack of Pall Malls?...that person has "the right" to smoke...to make decisions about his/her individual health...the person paid tax on those cigarettes...so why not sit next to you...your grandkids...or loved ones and blow smoke all over them...it's his right...and if you or your family is harmed by the second-hand smoke...well...tough cookies!!...nobody wants to sit next to somebody and breathe in their second-hand COVID virus...can you understand that?... Huh, I barely understood that. The Constitution doesn’t cover this. Might want to relax a bit on the attack approach… I’m surprised if your approach is to come after medical exemptions (especially of veterans) and Americans with Disabilities… If so, please don’t.
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Post by sdmotohead on Sept 19, 2021 8:24:11 GMT -8
We need to limit these gas lighting threads or put it somewhere OTHER than here.
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