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Post by Al-O-Meter on Nov 5, 2020 16:19:36 GMT -8
The optics look bad. Maybe you can put up an explanation but even paired with the best explanation in the world it isn't better than if they hadn't added 138,339 Biden votes alongside 0 Trump votes in a single shot to create a bizarre vertical line that immediately jump off the page. It's literally as simple as this : It's either photoshopped (which it looks like) or between data entry points. Without a relevant timestamp, it isn't indicative of anything. And again, the source is questionable at best. I get what you're trying to say, but there's no way something like that in a process as open as this is going to take place. The vote-counting graphs are from FiveThirtyEight and they are real. Like I said earlier, if you want the story on the 138,339 Biden votes alongside 0 Trump votes in Michigan and the FiveThirtyEight charts, check with Politifact. They have separate pages up on both of them. Michigan and Wisconsin really did do this. The funny part is that Politifact rates them both as false but in the body of the page admits they are true but gives technical information to explain it. |
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Post by aztecmusician on Nov 5, 2020 19:05:23 GMT -8
Did you get that story from MSNBC? Small bananas compared to selling out our country to the Russians....and then wrongly impeaching President Trump for it. I'm still waiting for that red tsunami you told us to fear...maybe the Hillary/Biden cabal used HAARP machinations to quell it? I check with QAnon to confirm... It’s clear there is a ton of shenanigans and vote manufacturing by the Democrats. Not surprising, in fact Trump called it, he had fairly comfortable leads in Mich and Wis late Tuesday, they stop the counting then warmed up the printing press. The Dem poll officials locked out Republican observers and resumed their “counting”, “finding” extra Biden ballots and losing Trump ballots. Wholesale cheating....this is so unprecedented in this country....right out of the 3rd World. Lose your smug satisfaction, this is nothing to be proud of, and won’t be resolved anytime soon. |
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Post by uwphoto on Nov 5, 2020 19:49:44 GMT -8
I'm still waiting for that red tsunami you told us to fear...maybe the Hillary/Biden cabal used HAARP machinations to quell it? I check with QAnon to confirm... It’s clear there is a ton of shenanigans and vote manufacturing by the Democrats. Not surprising, in fact Trump called it, he had fairly comfortable leads in Mich and Wis late Tuesday, they stop the counting then warmed up the printing press. The Dem poll officials locked out Republican observers and resumed their “counting”, “finding” extra Biden ballots and losing Trump ballots. Wholesale cheating....this is so unprecedented in this country....right out of the 3rd World. Lose your smug satisfaction, this is nothing to be proud of, and won’t be resolved anytime soon. "trump called it"...now thats funny. He's been calling it and setting up this scenario for 4 years. If I lose, its rigged. Dude has zero credibility. Why isn't he complaining about mail-in they are counting in Zona and Nevada?? |
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Post by aztecmusician on Nov 5, 2020 19:54:17 GMT -8
Everytime mail in voting happens (not absentee) it’s filled with chaos.
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 5, 2020 19:57:11 GMT -8
I'm still waiting for that red tsunami you told us to fear...maybe the Hillary/Biden cabal used HAARP machinations to quell it? I check with QAnon to confirm... It’s clear there is a ton of shenanigans and vote manufacturing by the Democrats. Not surprising, in fact Trump called it, he had fairly comfortable leads in Mich and Wis late Tuesday, they stop the counting then warmed up the printing press. The Dem poll officials locked out Republican observers and resumed their “counting”, “finding” extra Biden ballots and losing Trump ballots. Wholesale cheating....this is so unprecedented in this country....right out of the 3rd World. Lose your smug satisfaction, this is nothing to be proud of, and won’t be resolved anytime soon. Literally none of this is true. Again, talk to me when you can acknowledge the fact a Trump-appointed Postmaster General with no experience who happens to be a massive Trump campaign donor intentionally sabotaged the mail-in vote in Democratic areas. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 5, 2020 19:58:07 GMT -8
Everytime mail in voting happens (not absentee) it’s filled with chaos. False....again. Look at any bipartisan source. The president voted by mail. There's no Boogeyman. No manufacturing of votes, no thieves in the night. You clearly don't understand the process. And it's over...a legal fight will change nothing but cause more unrest and chaos. He didn't have comfortable leads in either state. It was 108,000 in Wisconsin and 300,000 in Michigan, with large, large outstanding Democratic ballots. Similar to Pennsylvania, which should flip in a couple hours. The mail-in ballots, the ones Trump railed against forever, are overwhelmingly Democratic. |
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Nov 5, 2020 20:12:20 GMT -8
"Hey Rocky watch me pull a ballot out of my a$$". "Aww that trick never works Bullwinkle"!
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Post by aardvark on Nov 5, 2020 20:42:25 GMT -8
"Hey Rocky watch me pull a ballot out of my a$$". "Aww that trick never works Bullwinkle"! This is another one of those, "It doesn't matter who you are for...THIS is funny." Well done. Humor is a wonderful thing. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 5, 2020 20:49:57 GMT -8
"Before you call me dirty, you better make sure your hands are clean."
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 5, 2020 22:00:50 GMT -8
Everytime mail in voting happens (not absentee) it’s filled with chaos. In the case of Pennsylvania, the GOP-led legislature outlawed counting any mail-in ballots until the polls closed on Tuesday night. So the reason for the chaos in that state is their own doing. That's why these heavily Democratic counties like Chester, Montgomery and Delaware are showing up so heavily now. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 5, 2020 22:29:12 GMT -8
Nate Silver has all but called the race for Biden, based on the mail-in ballot splits in Georgia and Pennsylvania. Clayton County in Georgia, the bluest jurisdiction in the state, likely puts Biden over the top there. Still a lot of outstanding ballots in Pennsylvania, in large swaths of Democratic territory.
To illustrate : Clayton County's latest (small) dump was 249 to 19. Philadelphia's dump was 5,023 to 726.
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 5, 2020 23:38:47 GMT -8
This is the guy you want to defend? I was told that he couldn't do any of this....and I said for months he would do exactly this. When someone tells you that they are an insane dictator, believe them.
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Nov 6, 2020 5:53:46 GMT -8
When someone tells you that they are an insane dictator, believe them. ...unless you actually know what a dictator is and can see the "someone" abides by the decisions of the Supreme Court that go against him, is frustrated by the lack of legislative help, impeachment, etc., coming out of the House controlled by the opposition party without ordering the military to execute them, and allows complete nincompoops who don't know what a dictator is be as openly critical of the "someone" as they please. What Trump is doing is going down swinging. He is going to lose. Even he knows he's going to lose if you could get him to be honest but it won't be without a fight. I'm sure it is likely a selfish motivation but it also honors all those who voted for him. That willingness to fight was why he grabbed the attention of voters when standing on a stage with 14 other candidates in the 2016 primaries. Conservative Americans have been vilified and called deplorable. The media lies about them. Polls pretend they don't exists. SJW activists shame them on social media and try to cost them their jobs. Conservatives desperately want someone who will fight for them and will overlook almost anything so long as that someone will put up a fight against those same people they see attacking them, attacking their friends, attacking their family. I'm sure you don't like it. You aren't supposed to. It isn't for you but rather it is because of you. |
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Post by uwphoto on Nov 6, 2020 6:46:17 GMT -8
When someone tells you that they are an insane dictator, believe them. ...unless you actually know what a dictator is and can see the "someone" abides by the decisions of the Supreme Court that go against him, is frustrated by the lack of legislative help, impeachment, etc., coming out of the House controlled by the opposition party without ordering the military to execute them, and allows complete nincompoops who don't know what a dictator is be as openly critical of the "someone" as they please. What Trump is doing is going down swinging. He is going to lose. Even he knows he's going to lose if you could get him to be honest but it won't be without a fight. I'm sure it is likely a selfish motivation but it also honors all those who voted for him. That willingness to fight was why he grabbed the attention of voters when standing on a stage with 14 other candidates in the 2016 primaries. Conservative Americans have been vilified and called deplorable. The media lies about them. Polls pretend they don't exists. SJW activists shame them on social media and try to cost them their jobs. Conservatives desperately want someone who will fight for them and will overlook almost anything so long as that someone will put up a fight against those same people they see attacking them, attacking their friends, attacking their family. I'm sure you don't like it. You aren't supposed to. It isn't for you but rather it is because of you. So Alometer, let me ask you a question. So now will "conservatives" be able to analyze information from a distance and be able to determine bad behavior and immoral behavior? Because now that the blueprint has been set, the next guy could be about 10 times smarter and 10 times more dangerous. When trump said he could shoot someone on 5th avenue and not lose any supporters..he wasnt lying for once. You talk here about executing people.. is the hate for the other side enough to make "conservatives" accept what's coming with the next guy? In watching trump for the last 4 years I was really thinking that if this guy was smarter...and just a bit more evil..America would be done. You can do that if you can develope a cult following. And give me a break regarding the persecution of conservatives..I have neighbors and just a few (ill admit that) friends that are conservatives and I've never had them tell me that they are persecuted. |
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Post by mactec on Nov 6, 2020 7:44:40 GMT -8
Ok, but I've been hearing that it was something like 108,000 votes for Biden that came in at one time with zero of them for Trump. It was 138,339 votes.  The vote counts for both Michigan and Wisconsin look extremely suspicious. This screenshot did not come from any official state election data. This was a data issue on Decision Desk HQ which hosted that data. It was claimed to be a typo that was fixed 15 minutes later. Michigan did not report this information. Decision Desk HQ is not an official election resource -- it's simply one of many places aggregating election results and following along/making predictions. www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/11/04/fact-check-typo-led-false-post-michigan-votes-biden/6164385002/ |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 6, 2020 8:34:46 GMT -8
When someone tells you that they are an insane dictator, believe them. ...unless you actually know what a dictator is and can see the "someone" abides by the decisions of the Supreme Court that go against him, is frustrated by the lack of legislative help, impeachment, etc., coming out of the House controlled by the opposition party without ordering the military to execute them, and allows complete nincompoops who don't know what a dictator is be as openly critical of the "someone" as they please. What Trump is doing is going down swinging. He is going to lose. Even he knows he's going to lose if you could get him to be honest but it won't be without a fight. I'm sure it is likely a selfish motivation but it also honors all those who voted for him. That willingness to fight was why he grabbed the attention of voters when standing on a stage with 14 other candidates in the 2016 primaries. Conservative Americans have been vilified and called deplorable. The media lies about them. Polls pretend they don't exists. SJW activists shame them on social media and try to cost them their jobs. Conservatives desperately want someone who will fight for them and will overlook almost anything so long as that someone will put up a fight against those same people they see attacking them, attacking their friends, attacking their family. I'm sure you don't like it. You aren't supposed to. It isn't for you but rather it is because of you. Get a clue, man. It's over. You don't need to sink with the ship. Yes, the man is a dictator. There are many iterations of dictatorship. Your delusions are absolutely incredible and are not shared by people who are relieved this tyrant will soon be gone, who think with a clear focus and remember the last four years without this ridiculous slant. Ignoring Congressional subpoenas. Gassing protesters. Undermining democracy, literally letting people in blue states DIE because they wouldn't vote for him, anyway. Failing to state to adhere to a peaceful transfer of power in the United States, not a third world failed state country. Filing lawsuits to stop lawful votes from being counted (regardless of motive) Just because he's not Pinochet, Pol Pot, Mao, Mugabe or Amin doesn't mean he's not evil. You lost. Those who voted for him outside of the binary choice they were presented with deserve no honor.vYou can let go and come back to reality. This era of division, hatred, racism and evil is over. I look forward to never reading this garbage again. His response to COVID, his social division and marginalization of minorities is why he went down in flames. While people are dying, all he wanted to say was "We have the best testing ever, more testing means more cases"....Not a single instance of empathy. Not a single press conference to unite. Just trotting out idiots and lapdogs who have no desire to do anything but parade a bogus narrative. He's done in Nevada, done in Arizona and done in Pennsylvania. For the good of the country, he should concede. He won't. His ego will not let him. His narcissistic, malignant behavior will not let him. He wants power. He's not going to get it. |
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Post by azson on Nov 6, 2020 9:07:06 GMT -8
...unless you actually know what a dictator is and can see the "someone" abides by the decisions of the Supreme Court that go against him, is frustrated by the lack of legislative help, impeachment, etc., coming out of the House controlled by the opposition party without ordering the military to execute them, and allows complete nincompoops who don't know what a dictator is be as openly critical of the "someone" as they please. What Trump is doing is going down swinging. He is going to lose. Even he knows he's going to lose if you could get him to be honest but it won't be without a fight. I'm sure it is likely a selfish motivation but it also honors all those who voted for him. That willingness to fight was why he grabbed the attention of voters when standing on a stage with 14 other candidates in the 2016 primaries. Conservative Americans have been vilified and called deplorable. The media lies about them. Polls pretend they don't exists. SJW activists shame them on social media and try to cost them their jobs. Conservatives desperately want someone who will fight for them and will overlook almost anything so long as that someone will put up a fight against those same people they see attacking them, attacking their friends, attacking their family. I'm sure you don't like it. You aren't supposed to. It isn't for you but rather it is because of you. Get a clue, man. It's over. You don't need to sink with the ship. Yes, the man is a dictator. There are many iterations of dictatorship. Your delusions are absolutely incredible and are not shared by people who are relieved this tyrant will soon be gone, who think with a clear focus and remember the last four years without this ridiculous slant. Ignoring Congressional subpoenas. Gassing protesters. Undermining democracy, literally letting people in blue states DIE because they wouldn't vote for him, anyway. Failing to state to adhere to a peaceful transfer of power in the United States, not a third world failed state country. Filing lawsuits to stop lawful votes from being counted (regardless of motive) Just because he's not Pinochet, Pol Pot, Mao, Mugabe or Amin doesn't mean he's not evil. You lost. Those who voted for him outside of the binary choice they were presented with deserve no honor.vYou can let go and come back to reality. This era of division, hatred, racism and evil is over. I look forward to never reading this garbage again. His response to COVID, his social division and marginalization of minorities is why he went down in flames. While people are dying, all he wanted to say was "We have the best testing ever, more testing means more cases"....Not a single instance of empathy. Not a single press conference to unite. Just trotting out idiots and lapdogs who have no desire to do anything but parade a bogus narrative. He's done in Nevada, done in Arizona and done in Pennsylvania. For the good of the country, he should concede. He won't. His ego will not let him. His narcissistic, malignant behavior will not let him. He wants power. He's not going to get it. I agree with all except for this. What I learned most, above all, over the past four years is that a scary amount of the population is still divisive, hateful and racist. Look no further than some on this poli-board. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 6, 2020 9:19:09 GMT -8
Get a clue, man. It's over. You don't need to sink with the ship. Yes, the man is a dictator. There are many iterations of dictatorship. Your delusions are absolutely incredible and are not shared by people who are relieved this tyrant will soon be gone, who think with a clear focus and remember the last four years without this ridiculous slant. Ignoring Congressional subpoenas. Gassing protesters. Undermining democracy, literally letting people in blue states DIE because they wouldn't vote for him, anyway. Failing to state to adhere to a peaceful transfer of power in the United States, not a third world failed state country. Filing lawsuits to stop lawful votes from being counted (regardless of motive) Just because he's not Pinochet, Pol Pot, Mao, Mugabe or Amin doesn't mean he's not evil. You lost. Those who voted for him outside of the binary choice they were presented with deserve no honor.vYou can let go and come back to reality. This era of division, hatred, racism and evil is over. I look forward to never reading this garbage again. His response to COVID, his social division and marginalization of minorities is why he went down in flames. While people are dying, all he wanted to say was "We have the best testing ever, more testing means more cases"....Not a single instance of empathy. Not a single press conference to unite. Just trotting out idiots and lapdogs who have no desire to do anything but parade a bogus narrative. He's done in Nevada, done in Arizona and done in Pennsylvania. For the good of the country, he should concede. He won't. His ego will not let him. His narcissistic, malignant behavior will not let him. He wants power. He's not going to get it. I agree with all except for this. What I learned most, above all, over the past four years is that a scary amount of the population is still divisive, hateful and racist. Look no further than some on this poli-board. I get what you're saying - But the fuel on the daily fire will not be there. Eventually, the bravado from them will fade. |
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Nov 6, 2020 9:22:52 GMT -8
You talk here about executing people.. is the hate for the other side enough to make "conservatives" accept what's coming with the next guy? In watching trump for the last 4 years I was really thinking that if this guy was smarter...and just a bit more evil..America would be done. It doesn’t matter how smart or how evil the person is when it comes to ending America. The genius of America is that it isn’t about being ruled by good people. It is about documents. We are a Constitutional Republic. So long as the documents are in place, so is America. The biggest threat to America comes from those who would weaken the documents and replace the Republic structures created in the nation’s founding with new ones that give more power to the people. It won’t be Mephistopheles winning an election but rather good intentioned people choosing to transfer power to the mob that ends America. |
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Nov 6, 2020 9:31:10 GMT -8
What I learned most, above all, over the past four years is that a scary amount of the population is still divisive, hateful and racist. There are for sure racist people but the non-racists outnumber them. Look no further than the battle in California over Prop 16. It got 43.9% support. 43.9% of voters in California wanted the state government to be able to look at a person's skin and treat them differently based on it. 43.9% of voters in California are racist. The bright side is that 56.1% of voters rejected the racism of the 43.9%. We are not where we need to be but we are moving in that direction. |
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