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Post by aztecryan on Nov 9, 2020 13:21:44 GMT -8
If you really need that explained.....LOL. Humor me then and perhaps there is a solution other than letting others die as we wait for Biden's bureaucrat army to be formed. Enough people have already died, thanks to the initial response (or lack thereof)...Color me a skeptic on the government saying that a vaccine will be free to the uninsured. Not usually how big pharma operates, to say the least. We are a ways off, as stated. The trials aren't even done yet. Middle of 2021 probably for actual efficacy. |
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Post by ptsdthor on Nov 9, 2020 13:38:26 GMT -8
Humor me then and perhaps there is a solution other than letting others die as we wait for Biden's bureaucrat army to be formed. Enough people have already died, thanks to the initial response (or lack thereof)...Color me a skeptic on the government saying that a vaccine will be free to the uninsured. Not usually how big pharma operates, to say the least. We are a ways off, as stated. The trials aren't even done yet. Middle of 2021 probably for actual efficacy. Evading the question, I see. Wonder why? I'll ask it again - If CVS, Costo, Walgreens, Rite Aid, your Dr. Office or Hospital gets money from the Gov to deliver a vaccine without cost to the patient, what difference would it make if that patient was insured or not? That scenario would actually create competition for the patient and would thus make the whole distribution quicker and more prevalent. But I'll wait for your reply to convince me otherwise. The Trump Admin paid ~ $2B to Pfizer for 100M Doses (~$20 a dose). And the Gov wastes $2B just thinking about doing something good (and this is good). And if we say that the delivery point receives another $20 to provide the previously paid for vaccine, who wouldn't line up to deliver it? It would almost be free money! Set up a few tables and chairs, have the patient fill out a form and sign a waiver, sit down and get a shot. 5/10 Minutes for $20 from the Gov. $240 to $120 an hour per chair. 9,277 Wallgreens, two chairs from 9 to 6 = $20 Million a day for nearly 1 Million patients daily. And that would just be Walgreens. Sure, they could receive more if they gouged an insurance company but this is a different animal. I'm sure HMOs are used to charging much more per annual flu shot and the Gov bureaucracies are salivating over the potential to be in the position to charge your insurance the price to live or die. The delay is not about uninsured patients or alleged past sins of Trump. It is about the money and who gets it. Operation Warp Speed is working...That is all. |
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Post by aztecnails on Nov 23, 2020 11:52:49 GMT -8
Ask Quid pro Joe Biden if he is still a bigot? yes. his comment 'if you have a problem figuring out if you are for me or Trump then you ain't black". This biden comment was made on the breakfast club with charlamague tha God. |
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Post by tuff on Dec 15, 2020 18:50:35 GMT -8
And now the press just gives him cat licks instead of asking him hard questions. They sure like protecting this crook. Disgusting.
And not to mention they haven’t reported on Hunter or Swalwell. If the duckers last name were Trump, it would be 24/7 coverage. hypocrites.
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Post by tuff on Dec 20, 2020 16:41:49 GMT -8
And now the press just gives him cat licks instead of asking him hard questions. They sure like protecting this crook. Disgusting. And not to mention they haven’t reported on Hunter or Swalwell. If the duckers last name were Trump, it would be 24/7 coverage. hypocrites. And you still hear nothing about these two clowns. Wow. Such bias. |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 21, 2020 11:08:44 GMT -8
And now the press just gives him cat licks instead of asking him hard questions. They sure like protecting this crook. Disgusting. And not to mention they haven’t reported on Hunter or Swalwell. If the duckers last name were Trump, it would be 24/7 coverage. hypocrites. And you still hear nothing about these two clowns. Wow. Such bias. It was covered plenty. Hunter Biden was cleared of wrongdoing already. It's not a story. As much desperation as there is to investigate a private citizen, there are better utilizations of resources. And Bill Barr agrees. |
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Post by tuff on Dec 21, 2020 15:55:09 GMT -8
And you still hear nothing about these two clowns. Wow. Such bias. It was covered plenty. Hunter Biden was cleared of wrongdoing already. It's not a story. As much desperation as there is to investigate a private citizen, there are better utilizations of resources. And Bill Barr agrees. Though disappointed,not surprised. |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 21, 2020 15:57:41 GMT -8
It was covered plenty. Hunter Biden was cleared of wrongdoing already. It's not a story. As much desperation as there is to investigate a private citizen, there are better utilizations of resources. And Bill Barr agrees. Though disappointed,not surprised. You want the government to go after private citizens? Seems like a bad precedent to set. Put aside your partisanship and see the whole picture here. Swalwell was likewise already cleared by the FBI 5 years ago. Wasting resources is something the government does enough of. |
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Post by tuff on Dec 21, 2020 16:09:07 GMT -8
Though disappointed,not surprised. You want the government to go after private citizens? Seems like a bad precedent to set. Put aside your partisanship and see the whole picture here. Swalwell was likewise already cleared by the FBI 5 years ago. Wasting resources is something the government does enough of. The guy that was promoting the Russia hoax and impeachment over it, with zero evidence, is banging a Chinese spy. Sorry, it doesn’t sit well. And as far as the counsel goes, why form one when other agencies are already gathering evidence. Especially when you are leaving the office in a day or so. But let’s see how this plays out. |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 21, 2020 16:32:56 GMT -8
You want the government to go after private citizens? Seems like a bad precedent to set. Put aside your partisanship and see the whole picture here. Swalwell was likewise already cleared by the FBI 5 years ago. Wasting resources is something the government does enough of. The guy that was promoting the Russia hoax and impeachment over it, with zero evidence, is banging a Chinese spy. Sorry, it doesn’t sit well. And as far as the counsel goes, why form one when other agencies are already gathering evidence. Especially when you are leaving the office in a day or so. But let’s see how this plays out. Not a hoax. Swalwell was cleared 5 years ago by the FBI. What evidence? Hunter Biden was already cleared of wrongdoing. This is the problem with the echo chamber of Newsmax and OAN and these other trash media outlets - You can't get anything factual. Back to the non-hoax for a second... This whole Russia thing is a real situation, unfortunately. |
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Post by tuff on Dec 21, 2020 16:35:03 GMT -8
Like I said. Just have to wait and see how it plays out.
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 21, 2020 16:44:21 GMT -8
Like I said. Just have to wait and see how it plays out. There's nothing to play out. No investigation. Setting yourself up for disappointment. Meanwhile, Jared Kushner... The grift never stops. Do you support an investigation into the Trump family? |
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Dec 22, 2020 8:21:29 GMT -8
This whole Russia thing is a real situation, unfortunately. The whole Russia-Trump collusion is fake. It is a lie and has always been a lie. That a handful of Democrats said Trump colluded without a single shred of evidence to back up the accusation is par for the course. |
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Post by uwphoto on Dec 22, 2020 8:25:46 GMT -8
This whole Russia thing is a real situation, unfortunately. The whole Russia-Trump collusion is fake. It is a lie and has always been a lie. That a handful of Democrats said Trump colluded without a single shred of evidence to back up the accusation is par for the course. haha...as trump says the hack is from China! What the heck do they have on this guy? |
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Dec 22, 2020 8:55:30 GMT -8
The whole Russia-Trump collusion is fake. It is a lie and has always been a lie. That a handful of Democrats said Trump colluded without a single shred of evidence to back up the accusation is par for the course. haha...as trump says the hack is from China! What the heck do they have on this guy? We don't know that it is not from China. Properly executed hacks are almost impossible to trace backwards, and this hack was so well executed it went completely undetected for 9 months. All you need is for one of the servers used in routing traffic to be located in Russia it be able to claim it was a "Russia connected" hack. That doesn't mean the hack was connected to the Russian government or to any government at all. Until I see evidence, this appears to be politicians and media playing fast and loose with words. |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 22, 2020 9:27:51 GMT -8
This whole Russia thing is a real situation, unfortunately. The whole Russia-Trump collusion is fake. It is a lie and has always been a lie. That a handful of Democrats said Trump colluded without a single shred of evidence to back up the accusation is par for the course. You're muddling concepts here. There was no "collusion" softly stated in the Mueller Report. Since then, however, a blind individual can tie the president and his master together. Doesn't take a genius to connect dots. |
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Dec 22, 2020 9:32:08 GMT -8
The whole Russia-Trump collusion is fake. It is a lie and has always been a lie. That a handful of Democrats said Trump colluded without a single shred of evidence to back up the accusation is par for the course. You're muddling concepts here. There was no "collusion" softly stated in the Mueller Report. Since then, however, a blind individual can tie the president and his master together. Doesn't take a genius to connect dots. Only in your head. If there was any connection then it would have long since been uncovered by either Mueller, or the FBI, or the million journalists who desperately want to find it. That you still have to "connect the dots" is because there is no line between the two. |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 22, 2020 9:35:14 GMT -8
haha...as trump says the hack is from China! What the heck do they have on this guy? We don't know that it is not from China. Properly executed hacks are almost impossible to trace backwards, and this hack was so well executed it went completely undetected for 9 months. All you need is for one of the servers used in routing traffic to be located in Russia it be able to claim it was a "Russia connected" hack. That doesn't mean the hack was connected to the Russian government or to any government at all. Until I see evidence, this appears to be politicians and media playing fast and loose with words. So you disagree with Mike Pompeo and Bill Barr then? Everything from a DOJ investigation points to the same group that hacked "FireEye." Who was behind it? In early December the same "highly sophisticated threat actor" is alleged to have purloined digital tools developed by the cyber-defense firm FireEye. FireEye detected the breach and alerted authorities, which helped lead to the discovery of intrusions into other companies and agencies. Experts believe the attacks are related and perpetrated by a group known as "Cozy Bear," the code name used for the SVR, a wing of Russian intelligence linked to several recent high-profile hacks including the Democratic National Committee in 2016 and the Olympics in 2018. www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/solarwinds-fireeye-cyberattack-russia-hack-explained/The smokescreen is pretty transparent here. China makes for an easy target for the president to shift blame and protect his boss, albeit contradicting literally everyone else involved in the investigation. |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 22, 2020 9:47:46 GMT -8
You're muddling concepts here. There was no "collusion" softly stated in the Mueller Report. Since then, however, a blind individual can tie the president and his master together. Doesn't take a genius to connect dots. Only in your head. If there was any connection then it would have long since been uncovered by either Mueller, or the FBI, or the million journalists who desperately want to find it. That you still have to "connect the dots" is because there is no line between the two. I know you desperately want to believe this - But the story doesn't add up. themoscowproject.org/explainers/trumps-russia-cover-up-by-the-numbers-70-contacts-with-russia-linked-operatives/themoscowproject.org/dispatch/yes-mueller-found-evidence-of-collusion/And it's obviously deeper than that with the Trump family ties to Moscow, the bounties on troops that Trump said he was never made aware of, the largest cyberattack in our history, etc. Trump has never been shy with praising Putin. |
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Dec 22, 2020 10:02:36 GMT -8
Have you not noticed that all of your nut ball sources play six-degrees-of-Kevin-Bacon? I quoted the actual Mueller Report saying there was no connection. No other investigation has documented a connection. No journalist has documented a connection. If Trump were a Russian spy, he'd be the worst Russian spy ever because he's such an egotist that it would take him 3 seconds to go on TV and proclaim himself the best Russian spy ever. The connection you keep parroting is a lie, and you don't seem to even read yours own sources. Stop claiming Trump is a Russian spy then provide proof of Paul Manifort once talking to someone in the Ukraine. Show proof of your claim. Show Donald J Trump (not Manifort or any other person not named Donald J Trump) being linked directly to Russian Intelligence (not Ukraine, not Grubby Bear or whatever hacker name, not "connect the dots, man"). What you are saying is a lie. |
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