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Post by AzTuba85 on Sept 16, 2020 8:13:51 GMT -8
Smart decision! We really need to move the Utah game into the SoFi stadium and pack that sucker if we can in 2021!
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Post by mayham81 on Sept 16, 2020 8:14:08 GMT -8
Where is the Holiday Bowl going to be played? They are looking at Petco.
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Post by AzTuba85 on Sept 16, 2020 8:15:17 GMT -8
Where is the Holiday Bowl going to be played? They are looking at Petco. Pass... bulldoze the outfield wall for a one time bowel game... Naw
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Post by mayham81 on Sept 16, 2020 8:16:22 GMT -8
Maybe it's just me, but Wicker has seemed in over his head since he was brought on. I hope this all works out but as others have pointed out, the smallest thing can delay completion of the stadium. I'm hoping for some good basketball news today as I think the NCAA is laying out the structure for the season or something like that.
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Post by AzTex on Sept 16, 2020 8:52:41 GMT -8
Where is the Holiday Bowl going to be played? The question should be "When." Based on the current situation I can't see how the Holiday Bowl would be played this year. With us demoing the stadium the Holiday Bowl will probably be postponed until 2022.
Before anyone proposes the Holiday Bowl to play somewhere in LA or elsewhere, that's not going to happen. The purpose of the Holiday Bowl is to promote tourism and hotel occupancy in San Diego. Holding the game out of town does nothing for tourism in San Diego.
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Post by azteca on Sept 16, 2020 9:20:07 GMT -8
It’s also not the end of world for north county SD fans. It’s only around 90 miles for us. 5 or 10 years ago I'd have made that drive happily. I just don't feel like fighting the LA traffic any more. This^^^^
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Post by laaztec on Sept 16, 2020 9:23:08 GMT -8
5 or 10 years ago I'd have made that drive happily. I just don't feel like fighting the LA traffic any more. This^^^^ Since Covid hit the LA traffic is very light.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Sept 16, 2020 9:27:08 GMT -8
Where is the Holiday Bowl going to be played? Speaking of the Holiday Bowl, I wonder how many of the other bowls, especially the minor ones, are going to throw in the towel. By that I mean not just for this year, but maybe for good. AzWm
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Post by hoobs on Sept 16, 2020 9:36:47 GMT -8
Since Covid hit the LA traffic is very light. And I'm guessing someone (or multiple someones) will organize bus trips up-and-back for games from SD & North County...
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Post by panammaniac on Sept 16, 2020 9:40:04 GMT -8
Not playing any more games in SDCCU is absolutely the right move at this point. With no football this year, or at least football in front of fans, and potentially no football in front of fans in 2021, why put one more penny into the stadium? Demo it early and pull every possible string to accelerate the construction timeline for the new stadium so you can start having events in it and generating a little revenue ASAP. Probably not 2021 football - I seriously doubt it can be built that fast - but maybe some spring 2021 concerts.
Seems to me that since there's no fans in 2020, playing at USD or a JUCO stadium would be a smarter bet, but I understand the mentality of wanting a more broadcast-ready venue and also wanting to preserve the college gameday experience as much as possible. You really don't have a suitable venue that's closer.
I too wonder what's going to happen with the Holiday Bowl. Petco apparently can't fit a gridiron without a fairly major architectural change. I'm no architect, but the only way I see that happening is if they demo the left field seats from the Western Metals Building out to the CF beach area and replace them with movable seats. That would be insanely expensive, and I'd venture to say not viable for one bowl game a year. I don't think playing in 35,000 seat Aztec Stadium is optimal for the Holiday Bowl either, unless capacity could be expanded with temporary seats for the bowl game. The Holiday Bowl committee is made up of hardcore San Diego guys, so I can't see them wanting to move it north. They're really left with no good options. It would be a shame to see that bowl game go the way of the dinosaur.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Sept 16, 2020 9:46:12 GMT -8
J.D. says that the condition of SDCCU Stadium was really bad, and they did not want to have to pay those expenses in order to continue to play there. Does he mean to say that the stadium is significantly worse than last season?
AzWm
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Post by panammaniac on Sept 16, 2020 9:52:59 GMT -8
J.D. says that the condition of SDCCU Stadium was really bad, and they did not want to have to pay those expenses in order to continue to play there. Does he mean to say that the stadium is significantly worse than last season? AzWm The place has been in bad shape for some time. I can't see it being that much worse in 6 months. He did point out that the city did basically no maintenance in 6 months, which can mean plumbing problems, electrical problems, etc. There's a risk of something needing a major repair in the name of safety, and possibly having to move a game on short notice because something can't get fixed in time for the game or is too expensive to fix. I recall a situation a number of years ago where a section of the lights blew a fuse, and the system was so antiquated that it took several days to get a replacement fuse. I don't remember if that was a Padre game right before they moved out or an SDSU game, but I remember it happening. Moving the games 2 hours to the north has its own risks, but at least you know you'll have a playable venue. It probably will cost SDSU less to rent that space than to maintain SDCCU in a marginally playable condition.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Sept 16, 2020 10:02:22 GMT -8
J.D. says that the condition of SDCCU Stadium was really bad, and they did not want to have to pay those expenses in order to continue to play there. Does he mean to say that the stadium is significantly worse than last season? AzWm The place has been in bad shape for some time. I can't see it being that much worse in 6 months. He did point out that the city did basically no maintenance in 6 months, which can mean plumbing problems, electrical problems, etc. There's a risk of something needing a major repair in the name of safety, and possibly having to move a game on short notice because something can't get fixed in time for the game or is too expensive to fix. I recall a situation a number of years ago where a section of the lights blew a fuse, and the system was so antiquated that it took several days to get a replacement fuse. I don't remember if that was a Padre game right before they moved out or an SDSU game, but I remember it happening. Moving the games 2 hours to the north has its own risks, but at least you know you'll have a playable venue. It probably will cost SDSU less to rent that space than to maintain SDCCU in a marginally playable condition. Sounds very likely. As for previous cases of the place starting to degenerate, wasn't there a case in which a chunk of concrete fell down? Or am I thinking of another stadium? AzWm
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Post by panammaniac on Sept 16, 2020 10:25:40 GMT -8
The place has been in bad shape for some time. I can't see it being that much worse in 6 months. He did point out that the city did basically no maintenance in 6 months, which can mean plumbing problems, electrical problems, etc. There's a risk of something needing a major repair in the name of safety, and possibly having to move a game on short notice because something can't get fixed in time for the game or is too expensive to fix. I recall a situation a number of years ago where a section of the lights blew a fuse, and the system was so antiquated that it took several days to get a replacement fuse. I don't remember if that was a Padre game right before they moved out or an SDSU game, but I remember it happening. Moving the games 2 hours to the north has its own risks, but at least you know you'll have a playable venue. It probably will cost SDSU less to rent that space than to maintain SDCCU in a marginally playable condition. Sounds very likely. As for previous cases of the place starting to degenerate, wasn't there a case in which a chunk of concrete fell down? Or am I thinking of another stadium? AzWm That was Wrigley Field, and also the Kingdome in Seattle where ceiling tiles started falling down and the Mariners moved their last homestand to Anaheim. I went to a couple games just because - you could walk right up to Angel Stadium at gametime and buy a field level seat for like $20 and there were only a few thousand fans.
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Post by aardvark on Sept 16, 2020 10:43:11 GMT -8
Sounds very likely. As for previous cases of the place starting to degenerate, wasn't there a case in which a chunk of concrete fell down? Or am I thinking of another stadium? AzWm That was Wrigley Field, and also the Kingdome in Seattle where ceiling tiles started falling down and the Mariners moved their last homestand to Anaheim. I went to a couple games just because - you could walk right up to Angel Stadium at gametime and buy a field level seat for like $20 and there were only a few thousand fans. The lights did go out at the Q. It was July 18th, 2001. Arizona was leading 1-0 when a bank of lights blew. The lights were repaired the next day, and the game was completed before the regularly scheduled game on the 19th. Fun fact--Randy Johnson got the win in relief, striking out 16 Padres in 7 innings.
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Post by sdcoug on Sept 16, 2020 11:17:00 GMT -8
Where is the Holiday Bowl going to be played? The question should be "When." Based on the current situation I can't see how the Holiday Bowl would be played this year. With us demoing the stadium the Holiday Bowl will probably be postponed until 2020.
Before anyone proposes the Holiday Bowl to play somewhere in LA or elsewhere, that's not going to happen. The purpose of the Holiday Bowl is to promote tourism and hotel occupancy in San Diego. Holding the game out of town does nothing for tourism in San Diego.
With the H-bowl being the 5th bowl in the P12 line-up, and even further down in the ACC's line-up, with the pandemic I think they were unlikely to play it in 2020 anyway. I think bowl season will be dramatically reduced, since the likelihood of generating tourism is significantly reduced in 2020. 2021 definitely brings up a question, but they may feel justified in paying the costs to renovate Petco & they'll have time to do so. But agree, it's not going to LA. It's more likely to take a 2-year hiatus, but that may have been the case anyway. Even if SDCCU wasn't being demolished until Jan 2022 there were a ton of issues with holding a bowl game there anyway. Parking would have been a disaster for 40k+ fans. My guess is they would have looked toward Petco or dissolving anyway.
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Post by azteca on Sept 16, 2020 11:22:43 GMT -8
I understand the thinking it’s just that we were(at least I was)that games would be played at SDCCU for the 2020 season but it didn’t happen that way so I guess it’s time to move on😲
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Post by panammaniac on Sept 16, 2020 11:45:01 GMT -8
The question should be "When." Based on the current situation I can't see how the Holiday Bowl would be played this year. With us demoing the stadium the Holiday Bowl will probably be postponed until 2020. Before anyone proposes the Holiday Bowl to play somewhere in LA or elsewhere, that's not going to happen. The purpose of the Holiday Bowl is to promote tourism and hotel occupancy in San Diego. Holding the game out of town does nothing for tourism in San Diego.
With the H-bowl being the 5th bowl in the P12 line-up, and even further down in the ACC's line-up, with the pandemic I think they were unlikely to play it in 2020 anyway. I think bowl season will be dramatically reduced, since the likelihood of generating tourism is significantly reduced in 2020. 2021 definitely brings up a question, but they may feel justified in paying the costs to renovate Petco & they'll have time to do so. But agree, it's not going to LA. It's more likely to take a 2-year hiatus, but that may have been the case anyway. Even if SDCCU wasn't being demolished until Jan 2022 there were a ton of issues with holding a bowl game there anyway. Parking would have been a disaster for 40k+ fans. My guess is they would have looked toward Petco or dissolving anyway. I could see the Holiday Bowl maybe going to Carson or Anaheim for one year. After that, its options are spend however many millions of dollars it would take to renovate Petco, play in Aztec Stadium with reduced seating, or fade off into the sunset. None of those are particularly attractive options, and I'm not sure the Padres would be overly enthusiastic about a fairly sizeable chunk of outfield seating being replaced with movable seats. They just did a major renovation in that area a few years ago. Even with being relatively far down in the conference lineups, it's still a fairly highly regarded bowl game with a nice 40+ year history. It would be a shame to see it go away.
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Post by aztec619 on Sept 16, 2020 12:06:37 GMT -8
I’m a former season ticket holder who lives in Phoenix. I attended most home games for 13 years from the Phoenix area. That being said, if you’re a true Aztec fan you’ll make the trek up north to support the team. It’s a great venue to watch football. At the end of the day, there was no other local option. Suck it up and quit whining! Go Aztecs!!! Nice job on making it to games from Phoenix. I guess us locals in SD shouldn't complain then.
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Post by junior on Sept 16, 2020 12:07:13 GMT -8
The smart money would be on bus service from campus to Indignity Playground. Carson is not someplace you really want to be stuck after dark.
If the Aztec Club has any giddyup left in the tank, they'll get on this right away and start exploring and engineering some options. Party up, party there, party back.
Of course, the uncertainty around Covid-19,20,21,22,23 may create some real challenges for Aztec fans.
Party on, dudes (and dudettes).
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