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Post by Cwag on Jun 28, 2020 9:13:31 GMT -8
The KKK is a despicable private organization, protected by the same constitutional rights that allow other despicable organizations such as Communist Party USA. The KKK targeted Black Americans and Republicans, and fought against reconciliation, so I don’t follow your thought process - can you elaborate? Jim Crow laws were passed by Democrats in the South and were, unfortunately, upheld by the Supreme Court in 1896. Sadly, separate but equal was generally accepted throughout the United States (north and south) at that time. As a court decision, it was never contemplated (that I know of - do you have evidence?) as an act of reconciliation. It was simply a very poor decision by the SCOTUS. Hopefully, Roe vs Wade will one day be viewed as a comparable mistake by the court. Let me guess your an older white guy that wants control over women's bodies. You are also in favor of no birth control. How progressive of you. Bet you live south of the Mason Dixon line. Also in favor of doing away with the Free Speech element of the 1st Amendment. You use the word despicable twice in your post. Was that the word of the month in Readers Digest build your vocabulary section? Winner winner chicken dinner! |
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Post by Den60 on Jun 28, 2020 9:25:20 GMT -8
Assault weapons have been effectively banned since 1935. You want to buy an assault weapon you need a special permit and something like a M-16 will set you back around $30K. An M-16 can fire about 700 rounds per minute of a .223-calibre high-power bullet that travels about 3,000 mph and is so devastating that it essentially "splashes" through the human body. An AR-15, which can be purchased for as little as $500, can fire about 400 rounds per minute -- or up to 600 rounds per minute with a modified bump stock like the Vegas shooter deployed -- of a .223-calibre high-power bullet that travels about 3,000 mph and is so devastating that it essentially "splashes" through the human body. The nomenclature differentiating an assault weapon and an assault-style weapon is a distraction. A semantic dodge. Gun nuts love to feign outrage about calling readily available AR-15s and AK-47s assault weapons. But the fact is that for the average citizen, both weapons are horrifically lethal and have no business outside of a war zone. AR-15 style weapons are popular for home defense because it is light, easily adjustable and has a light recoil. It is especially preferred by women for home defense. The round is much less lethal than the 30.06 round used in WWII's most popular rifle, the M1 Garand. The M-16 was designed to be light weight in both the rifle itself as well as the ammunition it used. The 5.56 round is a high velocity but low caliber round and is less lethal than many other rifle caliber rounds. Most states will not allow you to hunt deer or bigger game with the 5.56 - though the AR-15 is primarily a home defense weapon not designed with hunting in mind. Any rifle will be more lethal than a handgun using the same or similar caliber ammunition. My .357 1873 shooting the same round as my .357 handgun will increase the velocity by over 500 fps. Also, your claim that an AR-15 can fire 400 rounds/minute is inaccurate. The effective rate is more like 45 rounds per minute if you are actually trying to aim at something. Bump stocks are a gimmick, banned under an EO by Trump, and are really only effective in dumping ammunition at a high rate without giving the shooter a chance to effectively aim. They also are known to cause rifles to jam. |
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Post by Cwag on Jun 28, 2020 10:49:01 GMT -8
An M-16 can fire about 700 rounds per minute of a .223-calibre high-power bullet that travels about 3,000 mph and is so devastating that it essentially "splashes" through the human body. An AR-15, which can be purchased for as little as $500, can fire about 400 rounds per minute -- or up to 600 rounds per minute with a modified bump stock like the Vegas shooter deployed -- of a .223-calibre high-power bullet that travels about 3,000 mph and is so devastating that it essentially "splashes" through the human body. The nomenclature differentiating an assault weapon and an assault-style weapon is a distraction. A semantic dodge. Gun nuts love to feign outrage about calling readily available AR-15s and AK-47s assault weapons. But the fact is that for the average citizen, both weapons are horrifically lethal and have no business outside of a war zone. AR-15 style weapons are popular for home defense because it is light, easily adjustable and has a light recoil. It is especially preferred by women for home defense. The round is much less lethal than the 30.06 round used in WWII's most popular rifle, the M1 Garand. The M-16 was designed to be light weight in both the rifle itself as well as the ammunition it used. The 5.56 round is a high velocity but low caliber round and is less lethal than many other rifle caliber rounds. Most states will not allow you to hunt deer or bigger game with the 5.56 - though the AR-15 is primarily a home defense weapon not designed with hunting in mind. Any rifle will be more lethal than a handgun using the same or similar caliber ammunition. My .357 1873 shooting the same round as my .357 handgun will increase the velocity by over 500 fps. Also, your claim that an AR-15 can fire 400 rounds/minute is inaccurate. The effective rate is more like 45 rounds per minute if you are actually trying to aim at something. Bump stocks are a gimmick, banned under an EO by Trump, and are really only effective in dumping ammunition at a high rate without giving the shooter a chance to effectively aim. They also are known to cause rifles to jam. The mass killer in Las Vegas used a bump stock and killed over 50 people. When was the last report of a woman using an AR-15 to protect herself at home? I guess all lives matter expect those being killed by assault weapons in mass shooting because its more important to keep the 2nd Amendment unregulated. Those are just the collateral damage so you can own guns designed to kill as many people in as short a time as possible. |
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Post by standiego on Jun 28, 2020 13:09:45 GMT -8
suggest we close this down
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Post by Den60 on Jun 28, 2020 13:12:41 GMT -8
AR-15 style weapons are popular for home defense because it is light, easily adjustable and has a light recoil. It is especially preferred by women for home defense. The round is much less lethal than the 30.06 round used in WWII's most popular rifle, the M1 Garand. The M-16 was designed to be light weight in both the rifle itself as well as the ammunition it used. The 5.56 round is a high velocity but low caliber round and is less lethal than many other rifle caliber rounds. Most states will not allow you to hunt deer or bigger game with the 5.56 - though the AR-15 is primarily a home defense weapon not designed with hunting in mind. Any rifle will be more lethal than a handgun using the same or similar caliber ammunition. My .357 1873 shooting the same round as my .357 handgun will increase the velocity by over 500 fps. Also, your claim that an AR-15 can fire 400 rounds/minute is inaccurate. The effective rate is more like 45 rounds per minute if you are actually trying to aim at something. Bump stocks are a gimmick, banned under an EO by Trump, and are really only effective in dumping ammunition at a high rate without giving the shooter a chance to effectively aim. They also are known to cause rifles to jam. The mass killer in Las Vegas used a bump stock and killed over 50 people. When was the last report of a woman using an AR-15 to protect herself at home? I guess all lives matter expect those being killed by assault weapons in mass shooting because its more important to keep the 2nd Amendment unregulated. Those are just the collateral damage so you can own guns designed to kill as many people in as short a time as possible. I would encourage you, and any others on here, to read a book by Gary Kleck about gun violence called "Targeting Guns." However, I doubt you would do so because it is written by someone who is politically liberal and for restrictive gun laws prior to his research and you are likely someone who prefers to be willfully ignorant rather than challenge your core biases. Oh, and just under 4 years ago someone commandeered a semi-tractor trailer and killed 86 people while injuring over 420 others in Nice, France. I suppose we should be banning semi-tractor trailers from now on as well, eh? By the way, one of the things you would read in the book I source is that the use of firearms in this country for self-defense far exceeds those who use them to kill in a violent crime - even when considering the 80% of those killed by gun homicides are involved in gang violence. |
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Post by Den60 on Jun 28, 2020 14:13:30 GMT -8
AR-15 style weapons are popular for home defense because it is light, easily adjustable and has a light recoil. It is especially preferred by women for home defense. The round is much less lethal than the 30.06 round used in WWII's most popular rifle, the M1 Garand. The M-16 was designed to be light weight in both the rifle itself as well as the ammunition it used. The 5.56 round is a high velocity but low caliber round and is less lethal than many other rifle caliber rounds. Most states will not allow you to hunt deer or bigger game with the 5.56 - though the AR-15 is primarily a home defense weapon not designed with hunting in mind. Any rifle will be more lethal than a handgun using the same or similar caliber ammunition. My .357 1873 shooting the same round as my .357 handgun will increase the velocity by over 500 fps. Also, your claim that an AR-15 can fire 400 rounds/minute is inaccurate. The effective rate is more like 45 rounds per minute if you are actually trying to aim at something. Bump stocks are a gimmick, banned under an EO by Trump, and are really only effective in dumping ammunition at a high rate without giving the shooter a chance to effectively aim. They also are known to cause rifles to jam. Don’t need a lecture from you about guns. Fired my first one at around the age of five. Been a hunter most of my life. I’ve researched and written about guns and American gun violence for years. I’ve also been shot by a high-powered deer rifle, so I know from personal experience. Actually, it seems you do. I didn't even question your claim that a M-16 can fire 700 rounds per minute. Given the standard mag capacity of 30 rounds I don't think you could achieve that mark unless you were just doing a mag dump, that is over 23 magazines. That is likely the upper limit of the weapon specs but not close to real life conditions. I know you sure as hell couldn't tap your figure on a countertop 400 times in a minute, much less pull even a light trigger that many times when it comes to your claims about an AR-15. 400 rounds in an AR-15 with a standard 30 round magazine means you have to empty 13 magazines in a minute. Really, you think you could do that? Even with a 100 round drum mag you couldn't do that with an AR-15. So, maybe you have been around guns since your were 5 but you sure seem ignorant when it comes to them. When you throw out BS numbers like you have you really lack credibility. |
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Post by Old School on Jun 28, 2020 14:39:34 GMT -8
 Oldie Out |
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Post by longtimebooster on Jun 28, 2020 14:42:20 GMT -8
suggest we close this down Concur. |
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Post by richpjr on Jun 28, 2020 22:25:07 GMT -8
At the end of the day, academia is full of liberal educators who have spines like over cooked linguine. The Dems (historically) have supported Native American extermination, slavery, The KKK, segregation, Japanese American internment and a host of other abominable institutions, including secession in 1860...rebels....on second thought they should probably keep the name. How can any educator with a even an ounce of intellectual integrity align with such historical malpractice? Allow their institutions to become overrun with such socialist nonsense? I’ll give the liberals credit, they are clever, but in the end....mentally disordered. Holy crap. This is your worst take ever -- and that's saying something. And it only took you one paragraph to get there! So let's turn your myopic historical account on its head, and instead join the "here and now"... The GOP (here and now) support Native American extermination, slavery, The KKK, segregation, child internment and a host of other abominable institutions, including Confederate flag-waving "jews will not replace us" marchers, repeated mass-murder by semi-automatic weapons, the suppression of scientific data on a number of issues including catastrophic climate change and Covid, and voter-suppression. How can any human with a pulse and even an ounce of intellectual integrity align with such current malpractice as the Trump Administration? Allow their institutions to become overrun with such racist nonsense in the modern day? I’ll give the liberals credit, they are on the right side of an arc of history that bends towards justice. If your view of the GOP is based entirely on the sensationalist crap spoon fed to you by CNN and MSN, than this take, sadly, is understandable. |
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Post by PAC12 Aztec on Jun 29, 2020 6:00:34 GMT -8
suggest we close this down Holy smokes! This is the first psot that Stan has ever written that I can get behind. Congrats to Stan for a nice Monday morning comment. Wow, what is Aztec Mesa coming to and I whole heartedly agree with Stan. Can’t believe I just typed that. Shut it down mods! |
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Post by longtimebooster on Jun 29, 2020 6:50:38 GMT -8
Holy smokes! This is the first psot that Stan has ever written that I can get behind. Congrats to Stan for a nice Monday morning comment. Wow, what is Aztec Mesa coming to and I whole heartedly agree with Stan. Can’t believe I just typed that. Seriously? I find him to be one of the most astute hoops observers on this board. You've been missing out. Perhaps this kumbaya moment will be good for you. |
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Post by PAC12 Aztec on Jun 29, 2020 8:02:50 GMT -8
Holy smokes! This is the first psot that Stan has ever written that I can get behind. Congrats to Stan for a nice Monday morning comment. Wow, what is Aztec Mesa coming to and I whole heartedly agree with Stan. Can’t believe I just typed that. Seriously? I find him to be one of the most astute hoops observers on this board. You've been missing out. Perhaps this kumbaya moment will be good for you. I am not going to get into a argument here as I enjoy your posts and reading your comments. However, if you are going to say that about a poster who constantly paraphrases articles, repeats the obvious, and then ask questions that are obvious while rarely adding anything new or valuable I think we just have to disagree. I think there are a number of folks who would agree. I don’t think he has ever been negative, defensive or rude but his dribble (basketball pun per your comments) gets old. Just my take. |
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Post by wakelaunch on Jul 1, 2020 16:55:46 GMT -8
Young folks, fresh ideas. /shrugs The old guard will complain until they die off. Out with the old, in with the new. Oldie Out I agree 1000 percent. I thought Oregon was ridiculous with a million colors and now every kid wants this so it’s better to be a trend setter then late to the game. |
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