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Post by johneaztec on Jan 8, 2020 12:43:42 GMT -8
I'm really excited to see Hoke back. I'm a big fan of his. It makes the loss of Rocky much much easier for me. Can't wait to see who he brings in!!! Movin on!!!
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Post by Aztecs Fan on Jan 8, 2020 12:45:23 GMT -8
IF it is true that Wicker requested or suggested that Rocky get a new OC and IF Rocky refused to make a change and decided to retire or take another job as a result of this, isn't the net result the same? If he made the change as requested, Horton is out. If he leaves and someone else becomes head coach the odds are Horton is out. So Rocky, how does leaving benefit your good friend Horton? So IF this is all true, maybe Rocky showed Wicker that nobody can tell him what to do but for a man Rocky's age, I would have hoped he would have been a little more mature. Again IF all this is true. I love Rocky and what he has done for the university and the football program but IF true, how stubborn or immature can someone be?
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Post by MarshallU on Jan 8, 2020 12:48:36 GMT -8
bye Rocko.
bye Horton hears a who.
hello again Brady bunch.
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 8, 2020 12:48:40 GMT -8
Prior to Hoke's return, he had 3 different jobs in 3 different cities in 3 seasons. That is alarming.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Jan 8, 2020 12:52:27 GMT -8
Prior to Hoke's return, he had 3 different jobs in 3 different cities in 3 seasons. That is alarming. Not really. He just joined staffs on their final year a couple times. That's not in him. |
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Post by ourtime on Jan 8, 2020 12:54:13 GMT -8
Prior to Hoke's return, he had 3 different jobs in 3 different cities in 3 seasons. That is alarming. Two of those were due to changes in the head coaching position. You know as well as anyone coaches like to bring in their own people, it appears Hoke himself is gonna do that now. |
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Post by aztecfred on Jan 8, 2020 12:56:58 GMT -8
Prior to Hoke's return, he had 3 different jobs in 3 different cities in 3 seasons. That is alarming. Gotta look at his situations. Went from college to NFL. Was hired as assistant head coach and then named interim HC. NFL owners decided to go his way? Shocker. Came back here and probably would have been for a while even if not promoted. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 8, 2020 12:57:40 GMT -8
Prior to Hoke's return, he had 3 different jobs in 3 different cities in 3 seasons. That is alarming. Two of those were due to changes in the head coaching position. You know as well as anyone coaches like to bring in their own people, it appears Hoke himself is gonna do that now. He was awful as the Oregon DC, so that sure didn't help. Just going to have to wait and see what transpires. |
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Post by moctezumaii on Jan 8, 2020 12:58:37 GMT -8
IF it is true that Wicker requested or suggested that Rocky get a new OC and IF Rocky refused to make a change and decided to retire or take another job as a result of this, isn't the net result the same? If he made the change as requested, Horton is out. If he leaves and someone else becomes head coach the odds are Horton is out. So Rocky, how does leaving benefit your good friend Horton? So IF this is all true, maybe Rocky showed Wicker that nobody can tell him what to do but for a man Rocky's age, I would have hoped he would have been a little more mature. Again IF all this is true. I love Rocky and what he has done for the university and the football program but IF true, how stubborn or immature can someone be? +1. Sharp analysis. |
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Post by aztecnails on Jan 8, 2020 13:06:14 GMT -8
first, a head coach in any sport is an employee of the athletic department aka athletic director who can step in and demand changes when the team underachieves. second, that change would have been the firing of the offensive coordinator when Coach Long didn't fire Horton that set the stage for his stepping down. third, when Hoke was here in 2009 and 2010, he brought a winning attitude and toughness needed for a head football coach and winning record/top notch bowl games. fourth, the athletic director who is an employee of the athletic department can be replaced for not firing coaches who underachieve. The women's volleyball head coach was let go. 7 losing seasons in a row is a reason to replace the women's head basketball coach. last, with all the good athletes in so cal, SDSU should dominate the mwc in every sport and make the ncaa tournament every season in every sport.
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Post by johneaztec on Jan 8, 2020 13:06:25 GMT -8
Two of those were due to changes in the head coaching position. You know as well as anyone coaches like to bring in their own people, it appears Hoke himself is gonna do that now. He was awful as the Oregon DC, so that sure didn't help. Just going to have to wait and see what transpires. Were those Hokes recruits at Oregon? Did he have any input on those recruits when recruited? No, he didn't. That matters, a lot. |
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Post by MarshallU on Jan 8, 2020 13:07:26 GMT -8
Wait, I thought everyone was calling for RL's firing because he couldn't get to the next level and 10-win seasons sucked? Now, stability and the same is good enough? Lol. Yes 10 wins isn’t enough when it doesn’t improve our national credibility or big time bowls the new mexico bowl isn't a big time bowl? LOL |
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Post by MarshallU on Jan 8, 2020 13:12:48 GMT -8
For you all college offensive genesis who were crying for Hortons ouster including JD you got what you wanted. In the mean time one of the best college coaches to ever set foot on the Mesa has told you and JD to "stick it" Way to go JD and the no nothing cry babies! what's an offensive genesis? |
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Post by tonatiuh on Jan 8, 2020 13:16:35 GMT -8
I think a lot of you forget what Hoke did to revitalize this program in 2 short years. He got San Diego excited for SDSU football while winning in the hay day of Mountain west football with TCU, Utah, BYU. I think its good to have someone in program take over for all the new commits we just got, and I think Rocky and Brady share the same defensive ideology, which will keep the defense one of the best in the country. I'm just excited to get a new OC. There are always two sides to the story. Hoke did bring us out of the dumps & back to winning and toughness, but in his two years here he did not beat any of the best teams in the conference. He lost all games vs. BYU, Utah, & TCU, and he lost the Big game to start the 2009 season to UCLA, 14-33. In 2010 his Aztecs lost a heartbreaker to Missorri, 27-24 as the last play their blocker clipped our DB right in front of the ref, and they scored the TD without a flag being thrown. If, he would have stayed we may have done great things. I do believe that if Hoke takes over he can get us where we want to go, and that will depend on the assistant coaches he brings in. We'll see. |
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Post by tonatiuh on Jan 8, 2020 13:19:11 GMT -8
Prior to Hoke's return, he had 3 different jobs in 3 different cities in 3 seasons. That is alarming. Not in coaching it isn't. Hoke is a good coach, and he definitely knows what he is doing. You can't go wrong in hiring him back! |
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Post by myownwords on Jan 8, 2020 13:21:33 GMT -8
For you all college offensive genesis who were crying for Hortons ouster including JD you got what you wanted. In the mean time one of the best college coaches to ever set foot on the Mesa has told you and JD to "stick it" Way to go JD and the no nothing cry babies! what's an offensive genesis? A breech birth? |
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Post by AccessBowlTime on Jan 8, 2020 13:40:17 GMT -8
Prior to Hoke's return, he had 3 different jobs in 3 different cities in 3 seasons. That is alarming. Not if you know that in 1 of the 3 he was simply swept out with a general housecleaning and that when at Oregon, he had to try to put together an effective defense when the offense was as uptempo as any offense has ever been so his own players never got sufficient rest. The way some of you are already hating on Hoke, one might think he was replacing John Wooden. |
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Post by Sdsu4life on Jan 8, 2020 13:42:29 GMT -8
Prior to Hoke's return, he had 3 different jobs in 3 different cities in 3 seasons. That is alarming. There was alot of turnover at each of those stops, plus those were coordination positions. Hoke isn't a coordinator. He is a positional coach and head coach, not a play caller. |
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Post by DeeMoney on Jan 8, 2020 13:45:54 GMT -8
IF it is true that Wicker requested or suggested that Rocky get a new OC and IF Rocky refused to make a change and decided to retire or take another job as a result of this, isn't the net result the same? If he made the change as requested, Horton is out. If he leaves and someone else becomes head coach the odds are Horton is out. So Rocky, how does leaving benefit your good friend Horton? So IF this is all true, maybe Rocky showed Wicker that nobody can tell him what to do but for a man Rocky's age, I would have hoped he would have been a little more mature. Again IF all this is true. I love Rocky and what he has done for the university and the football program but IF true, how stubborn or immature can someone be? I don't find this to be stubborn. Maybe this was the line for him, you want him as the HC you let him pick his staff. We all have hills we're willing to die on in our professional lives and his may be the ability to choose his assistants. Not that unusual. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 8, 2020 13:47:16 GMT -8
AP is reporting that he is retiring.
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