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Post by cvtower on Dec 1, 2019 0:11:32 GMT -8
That folks, was the average attendance this season at home. Total of 179,376. Ticks me off royally, since I was hoping, prior to the start of this season, that the amount of fans attending would end up making the idea of a future stadium with only 35k look silly (I continue to be a honk for a stadium that seats between 40-45k). The reality of the final results makes the need for a 35k seat venue look un-silly Weber State.....40,222 Utah State....27,367 Wyoming.....28,758 Nevada.....27,973 Fresno State......26,876 BYU....28,180
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Dec 1, 2019 1:28:59 GMT -8
Well, let's face it - that is in part the byproduct of an anemic offense that's been put on the field for the last two seasons.
San Diegans do not like to watch grind-it-out type football. Winning ugly is just ugly football to most football fans in San Diego.
Want to get more people through the gates? Get a better, more exciting offense on the field while keeping a good defense. Win 42-27 every week and attendance will rise dramatically.
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Post by aztecmusician on Dec 1, 2019 1:49:20 GMT -8
Well, let's face it - that is in part the byproduct of an anemic offense that's been put on the field for the last two seasons. San Diegans do not like to watch grind-it-out type football. Winning ugly is just ugly football to most football fans in San Diego. Want to get more people through the gates? Get a better, more exciting offense on the field while keeping a good defense. Win 42-27 every week and attendance will rise dramatically. It’s more like San Diegans are lame sports fans who don’t support their own teams...even if they win. Plus this town doesn’t care when the Aztecs play these truck stop universities. Maybe the new stadium will make a difference, but I think San Diegans want to see PAC 12, Big 12, Big 10 ACC and SEC opponents, not Weber St and BYU. Rocky has made it clear that these schools are VERY reluctant to come here. What P5 school wants to lose to San Diego Stinking State?
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Post by aztecnails on Dec 1, 2019 3:10:15 GMT -8
two observations is the mindset of SDSU students and san diego state alumni (less than 1000 students? in the student section is a disgrace) and the desire to attend home football and basketball games and that if children attend games with family they are more likely to be fans for life and keep going to games. I despise bywho but their fan base is made up of mom and dads who bring their children making them fans for life. I started attending games in the 1970s before I was a teenager with my late father and having lived in san diego/inland empire nov. 1990-mar. 1991 for most of my life meaning I AM AN AZTEC FOR LIFE. It is a disgrace that a city with almost 1,300,000+ residents that san diego can't sell-out our stadium of about 65,000. also, the weather is normally good and so what that it was in the 50s for tonights game this was our version of football weather. Minnesota sold out their game with Wisconsin and it snowed during today's game and/or travel on icy roads just to get to their school's sports events. here is an idea for next year football games all upper level tickets are $10 (currently unsold except for the sky show game). field, plaza, loge, press are $20-25. the loss of ticket revenue would be made up in concessions and merchandise. also, parking is $5.
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Post by longtimebooster on Dec 1, 2019 6:33:13 GMT -8
Well, let's face it - that is in part the byproduct of an anemic offense that's been put on the field for the last two seasons. San Diegans do not like to watch grind-it-out type football. Winning ugly is just ugly football to most football fans in San Diego. Want to get more people through the gates? Get a better, more exciting offense on the field while keeping a good defense. Win 42-27 every week and attendance will rise dramatically. Due to my travel schedule, I was only able to attend 3 of our 6 home games this year -- Utah St., Nev. and Fresno St. All were painful affairs. Dull. Boring. Like sitting with a headful of Novocain and getting a root canal. And the 3/4-empty, cavernous, impersonal stadium doesn't help one bit. On offense, there's absolutely nothing to root for. I'm sorry, but that's gotta change. Never mind that our opponents are all schools from far-flung hick towns that no one in San Diego can relate to. By the time the BYU game rolled around, I was done with football. The game was meaningless. We'd already screwed the pooch and missed our opportunity -- just like we do every year under Coach Long -- of playing in a meaningful bowl game. No matter what happened against BYU, we were relegated to a fourth-tier bowl against a third-tier opponent located in some frozen berg in the American hinterland. Ugh.
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Post by aztecvatar on Dec 1, 2019 6:39:47 GMT -8
Expect more of the same with Rocky at the helm. He's slowly but surely killing this program. Nobody is excited to play, or watch, geriatric football.
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Post by sdsustoner on Dec 1, 2019 7:04:14 GMT -8
Alumni support is 100% based on their experiences as students.
The school provides a lousy student experience at football games. They barely show up to games. And then watch them do nothing after graduation.
This is the marketing department's fault for not gaining student engagement for football games.
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Post by sdsustoner on Dec 1, 2019 7:05:08 GMT -8
Expect more of the same with Rocky at the helm. He's slowly but surely killing this program. Nobody is excited to play, or watch, geriatric football. How's Nevada's attendance with their Air Raid? Almost 2 K less per game Your argument is garbage
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Post by MontezumaPhil on Dec 1, 2019 8:07:44 GMT -8
For some bizarre reason I recently watched a replay of 52-52. The Aztecs that night were defensively helpless against Ty Detmer. But on offense Luginbill had a dazzling array of weapons that probably would have schooled this year’s Aztec defense.
So when the Cougars showed up, how did the town respond? With one of the largest, loudest, most boisterous crowds in this city’s history. And that was an entire generation ago.
Luginbill wasn’t my favorite guy, but he understood that football is supposed to be entertainment. People pay money to see it because they want to have a good time. This Aztec team is anything but. Fans in my section squirmed in their seats for every home game, last night’s win included.
You want the fans back? Put the excitement back.
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Post by jdaztec on Dec 1, 2019 8:23:06 GMT -8
I was there, almost never miss a game. Would I like a better offense ? of course but I still attend and look forward to the games all week. I can't understand those "football;; fans" that choose not to attend. We are the only game in town, and for the last decade or so we have been winners.
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Post by sdsustoner on Dec 1, 2019 8:41:46 GMT -8
For some bizarre reason I recently watched a replay of 52-52. The Aztecs that night were defensively helpless against Ty Detmer. But on offense Luginbill had a dazzling array of weapons that probably would have schooled this year’s Aztec defense. So when the Cougars showed up, how did the town respond? With one of the largest, loudest, most boisterous crowds in this city’s history. And that was an entire generation ago. Luginbill wasn’t my favorite guy, but he understood that football is supposed to be entertainment. People pay money to see it because they want to have a good time. This Aztec team is anything but. Fans in my section squirmed in their seats for every home game, last night’s win included. You want the fans back? Put the excitement back. Screw you I can't stand "fans" like you who'd rather lose 52-51 than win 13-3. Although we tied BYU that game, SDSU lost more games than it won with "exciting" offenses. How many bowl games did that take us to under him, Tolner & Craft? Ten in a row with 9 under Rocky. Go root for the LA Chargers with your debunked opinions in a season the Aztecs beat UCLA, Fresno and BYU. You could all stay off the band wagon for all I care.
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Post by sdsustoner on Dec 1, 2019 8:44:00 GMT -8
Funny how 2 MWC schools with "exciting" offenses and another school with a fanbase their school brags having a national foot print averaged fewer fans than we did.
It makes your sole argument comically stupid
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Dec 1, 2019 8:48:39 GMT -8
Post by The Aztec Panther on Dec 1, 2019 8:48:39 GMT -8
Expect more of the same with Rocky at the helm. He's slowly but surely killing this program. Nobody is excited to play, or watch, geriatric football. How's Nevada's attendance with their Air Raid? Almost 2 K less per game Your argument is garbage What's Reno's population? 250,000. San Diego City & County has a total population of SIX TIMES that number. There are tons of SDSU alums in the county, too! So our attendance should be at least double theirs. (And that's giving SDSU a break.) So if they're within 2k of our attendance something's wrong HERE.
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Dec 1, 2019 8:48:39 GMT -8
Post by ourtime on Dec 1, 2019 8:48:39 GMT -8
For some bizarre reason I recently watched a replay of 52-52. The Aztecs that night were defensively helpless against Ty Detmer. But on offense Luginbill had a dazzling array of weapons that probably would have schooled this year’s Aztec defense. So when the Cougars showed up, how did the town respond? With one of the largest, loudest, most boisterous crowds in this city’s history. And that was an entire generation ago. Luginbill wasn’t my favorite guy, but he understood that football is supposed to be entertainment. People pay money to see it because they want to have a good time. This Aztec team is anything but. Fans in my section squirmed in their seats for every home game, last night’s win included. You want the fans back? Put the excitement back. Screw you I can't stand "fans" like you who'd rather lose 52-51 than win 13-3. Especially in a season the Aztecs beat UCLA, Fresno and BYU. You could all stay off the band wagon for all I care. Judging by the attendance figures everyone did "stay off the bandwagon."
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Dec 1, 2019 8:51:00 GMT -8
Post by The Aztec Panther on Dec 1, 2019 8:51:00 GMT -8
For some bizarre reason I recently watched a replay of 52-52. The Aztecs that night were defensively helpless against Ty Detmer. But on offense Luginbill had a dazzling array of weapons that probably would have schooled this year’s Aztec defense. So when the Cougars showed up, how did the town respond? With one of the largest, loudest, most boisterous crowds in this city’s history. And that was an entire generation ago. Luginbill wasn’t my favorite guy, but he understood that football is supposed to be entertainment. People pay money to see it because they want to have a good time. This Aztec team is anything but. Fans in my section squirmed in their seats for every home game, last night’s win included. You want the fans back? Put the excitement back. Screw you I can't stand "fans" like you who'd rather lose 52-51 than win 13-3. Although we tied BYU that game, SDSU lost more games than it won with "exciting" offenses. Go root for the LA Chargers with your debunked opinions in a season the Aztecs beat UCLA, Fresno and BYU. You could all stay off the band wagon for all I care. Or... You could be a little less angry and a little less hostile towards other SDSU fans and Aztec Mesa board members just for having a different opinion than yours. Then again, you can continue to be hostile and end up like many others do, breaking forum rules out of temper tantrums and end up getting banned. Personally, I'd choose the more rational, reasonable option, but I can't make you do that. Just consider this advice from the Mod team.
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Dec 1, 2019 8:53:31 GMT -8
Post by The Aztec Panther on Dec 1, 2019 8:53:31 GMT -8
Funny how 2 MWC schools with "exciting" offenses and another school with a fanbase their school brags having a national foot print averaged fewer fans than we did. It makes your sole argument comically stupid No, what's comically stupid is not taking population and sheer numbers of alumni in the area into consideration. SDSU should absolutely demolish the competition when it comes to attendance based on those factors. A much, MUCH higher percentage of the local population shows up to games for our competition than shows up from our population here.
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Dec 1, 2019 8:56:25 GMT -8
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Post by sdsustoner on Dec 1, 2019 8:56:25 GMT -8
How's Nevada's attendance with their Air Raid? Almost 2 K less per game Your argument is garbage What's Reno's population? 250,000. San Diego City & County has a total population of SIX TIMES that number. There are tons of SDSU alums in the county, too! So our attendance should be at least double theirs. (And that's giving SDSU a break.) So if they're within 2k of our attendance something's wrong HERE. Yes, all things equal in Reno & San Diego right? If you disagree, then you just admitted it isn't "der...duh...exciting offense...derp."
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Post by sdsustoner on Dec 1, 2019 8:57:52 GMT -8
Screw you I can't stand "fans" like you who'd rather lose 52-51 than win 13-3. Although we tied BYU that game, SDSU lost more games than it won with "exciting" offenses. Go root for the LA Chargers with your debunked opinions in a season the Aztecs beat UCLA, Fresno and BYU. You could all stay off the band wagon for all I care. Or... You could be a little less angry and a little less hostile towards other SDSU fans and Aztec Mesa board members just for having a different opinion than yours. Then again, you can continue to be hostile and end up like many others do, breaking forum rules out of temper tantrums and end up getting banned. Personally, I'd choose the more rational, reasonable option, but I can't make you do that. Just consider this advice from the Mod team. Oh look, another "fan" who'd rather lose 52-51. Birds of a feather
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Dec 1, 2019 8:59:46 GMT -8
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Post by sdsustoner on Dec 1, 2019 8:59:46 GMT -8
Funny how 2 MWC schools with "exciting" offenses and another school with a fanbase their school brags having a national foot print averaged fewer fans than we did. It makes your sole argument comically stupid No, what's comically stupid is not taking population and sheer numbers of alumni in the area into consideration. SDSU should absolutely demolish the competition when it comes to attendance based on those factors. A much, MUCH higher percentage of the local population shows up to games for our competition than shows up from our population here. LMAO You mean just like how UCLA only averaged 43k in a stadium that seats more than twice that WITH an "exciting offense" in a city with even more people and alums? FYI, that's a record low since UCLA moved to the RB for home games...in 1982 And again, they run an "exciting offense" What's comically stupid is a fellow alumnus forgetting what makes a hypotheses valid.
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Post by aztecbo on Dec 1, 2019 9:02:06 GMT -8
The attendance problem is caused by a combination of many things: Night games, weak offense, TV timeouts, poor stadium, a lost generation of Aztec fans from previous era, not being in the Power 5 cartel, lack of $, west coast life style, etc. Even Pac-12 teams have some of these issues. A combination of greed and devotion to the winner-take-all national mentality seems to snuff out any desire for us to demand a level playing field where schools play at desirable starting times for a reasonable length of game time. The new stadium will help, but the long range trend seems bleak to me.
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