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Post by zurac315 on Aug 28, 2019 19:45:52 GMT -8
Well, at least Rocky Long realizes that Weber State has a good team. After a recent practice he said that if we play like that practice we'll lose. I will be interested to see how the running game does out of the spread. I think much will depend on that.
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Post by aztecfan1 on Aug 28, 2019 20:20:54 GMT -8
You make a very valid point that is lost on the casual fans who think the Weber States of the world are "cupcakes." It's all in a name to the ignorant here, who even now are learning the diff between FCS and FBS. Worse yet, the casuals who are actually worried about whether a new sdsu freshmen will be offended by who we playing non conference. You read it all right here on this weird board .
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Post by fisher1fan on Aug 28, 2019 21:12:41 GMT -8
Ok, enough with the BS. The fact is, San Diego is a horrible sports community period. "One City, One Team." Or is it, One City Hardly Anyone Cares? The people of SD and a lot of students do not support their teams or universities and haven't for decades. That's especially true for SDSU. It shouldn't matter who the opponents are. Go to the games!! I grew up in SD, graduated an Aztec and have been going to games since the late 70's. Didn't miss a whole lot of games while attending SDSU either. They were free or 5 bucks for crying out loud!! That included watching terrible MBB teams. I currently live 800 miles away but still manage to get to some games because I care about my alma mater. There are a lot of Aztec alumni, boosters and supporters living in the San Diego area. But people in SD find excuses not to attend games regardless. The students excuses are even more ridiculous. So, I know it doesn't matter who the Aztecs schedule, or if the team is winning or losing, that produces the dismall crowds. Unless there's some kind of gimmick people don't show up. That's why they scheduled the Skyshow for this type of game. It doesn't matter who the teams are. The last Sh!+show game I attended was a joke. 20k at the game, then halfway through the 4th quarter, there is suddenly 50k creating a lot of commotion. People leave as fast as they came creating even more chaos. The people who go to the S#!+show don't give a crap about the game or who the Aztecs opponents are. Another poster claims at least schedule a Sun Belt or a Conference USA team. Yeah, scheduling the University of Louisiana at Monroe, Georgia Southern, Louisiana Tech, or Middle Tennessee will bring new more interested freshman and a s#!+load of people to the games. 👍 LMFAO!! Btw, how did the University of South Alabama work out for Aztecs in recent years? Give me break!! More examples, I was at the Stanford game 2 years ago and the Trees came in ranked. And while there was a nice crowd, it wasn't close to a sellout. No sellout last year when ranked ASU came to town either. The Aztecs started 6-1 and still no sellouts. Marshalll Faulk (STUD!!) did bring decent crowds. But again, not a bunch of sellouts as some posters are claiming. You can't keep blaming the opponents scheduled for the bad crowds. It's a community thing. The top 10-15 teams in FCS football are better than half of the G5 teams in the FBS. And Weber St has a very good team. If you have been paying attention, FCS teams have been beating G5 FBS teams lately. And just reminder, a lowly division 1AA Appalachian St, before joining the Sun Belt, beat Michigan at The Big House not that long ago. P5's do not schedule FCS teams that often because of fear of losing. And P5 teams also don't want to schedule the Aztecs for the same reason. Keep telling yourself that ANY FCS team isn't of SDSU caliber. Go to the games and quit whining!! For Students, the games are basically free and there is a trolley to get the ones who live on campus there and back. So there should be no excuses to attend games regardless of the opponent. Go Aztecs!! You're right. Almost no one recognizes that the top FCS teams are very good. Because of their depth they might not succeed in a full G5 schedule, but for any given game the top teams can be formidable. Much like we were under Coryell as a College Division team. The quality of the FCS school isn’t the point. Perception is reality. No extra fans are going to the game BECAUSE of the opposition. If the opponent was good, maybe the casual firework fan would come and watch the entire game, and might enjoy it/come back. Sure it would be nice if fans just supported blindly. They don’t, so let’s try something new FCS isn’t turning heads
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Post by tonatiuh on Aug 29, 2019 11:21:51 GMT -8
Whhhhhhy are we playing Weber State? Play a reeeeaaaaaal school We will for sure next week if that is your pleasure. UCLA, don't think I need to say more.
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Post by AzTex on Aug 29, 2019 12:09:54 GMT -8
You're right. Almost no one recognizes that the top FCS teams are very good. Because of their depth they might not succeed in a full G5 schedule, but for any given game the top teams can be formidable. Much like we were under Coryell as a College Division team. The quality of the FCS school isn’t the point. Perception is reality. No extra fans are going to the game BECAUSE of the opposition. If the opponent was good, maybe the casual firework fan would come and watch the entire game, and might enjoy it/come back. Sure it would be nice if fans just supported blindly. They don’t, so let’s try something new FCS isn’t turning heads Granted that the FCS isn't turning heads here. But the MW isn't either. There aren't a hand full of G5 teams that would turn heads, and in fact, the majority of P5 teams wouldn't as well. To have a consistently large enthusiastic following is going to require fans that come to watch the Aztecs, not the opponents. The basketball team had it under Fisher and the football team had it under Coryell.
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Post by kturtle5114 on Aug 29, 2019 12:50:29 GMT -8
The quality of the FCS school isn’t the point. Perception is reality. No extra fans are going to the game BECAUSE of the opposition. If the opponent was good, maybe the casual firework fan would come and watch the entire game, and might enjoy it/come back. Sure it would be nice if fans just supported blindly. They don’t, so let’s try something new FCS isn’t turning heads Granted that the FCS isn't turning heads here. But the MW isn't either. There aren't a hand full of G5 teams that would turn heads, and in fact, the majority of P5 teams wouldn't as well. To have a consistently large enthusiastic following is going to require fans that come to watch the Aztecs, not the opponents. The basketball team had it under Fisher and the football team had it under Coryell. Correct. Most teams we play enter and exit a students thoughts the week we play them. Most of us dont follow the team after they leave here to see how they did. Most ooc teams we would not even know/care what conference they came out of. All a lot of us can base our opinions of teams on is what we here from fellow mpre hard core fans that tell them us whether we "should" beat the teams. These arent my personal thoughts but as a student its a lot of the environment i hear. That brings us to the few we would recognize. Playing and beating UCLA would be cause for chatter! Now it doesn't matter when this happens and frankly it shouldn't happen on the first game because it is much less likely on the first week when the team needs to still figure things out AND we would squander an opportunity for well attended games down the line since skyshow/season opener is a regularly well attended game.
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Post by fisherville on Aug 29, 2019 13:45:23 GMT -8
The quality of the FCS school isn’t the point. Perception is reality. No extra fans are going to the game BECAUSE of the opposition. If the opponent was good, maybe the casual firework fan would come and watch the entire game, and might enjoy it/come back. Sure it would be nice if fans just supported blindly. They don’t, so let’s try something new FCS isn’t turning heads Granted that the FCS isn't turning heads here. But the MW isn't either. There aren't a hand full of G5 teams that would turn heads, and in fact, the majority of P5 teams wouldn't as well. To have a consistently large enthusiastic following is going to require fans that come to watch the Aztecs, not the opponents. The basketball team had it under Fisher and the football team had it under Coryell. The opposition will always play a role.Playing a low level pac 12 school would bring out many more fans don’t kid yourself
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2019 15:49:49 GMT -8
Granted that the FCS isn't turning heads here. But the MW isn't either. There aren't a hand full of G5 teams that would turn heads, and in fact, the majority of P5 teams wouldn't as well. To have a consistently large enthusiastic following is going to require fans that come to watch the Aztecs, not the opponents. The basketball team had it under Fisher and the football team had it under Coryell. The opposition will always play a role.Playing a level pac 12 school would bring out many more fans don’t kid yourself So I'm guessing you didn't pay too much attention to the announced crowd for the #23 ranked ASU game last year before you posted this. Go figure!!
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Post by fisherville on Aug 29, 2019 22:37:18 GMT -8
The opposition will always play a role.Playing a level pac 12 school would bring out many more fans don’t kid yourself So I'm guessing you didn't pay too much attention to the announced crowd for the #23 ranked ASU game last year before you posted this. Go figure!! 34 k+? Like 5-8 K above the non sky show games?
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Post by aardvark on Aug 29, 2019 22:52:07 GMT -8
So I'm guessing you didn't pay too much attention to the announced crowd for the #23 ranked ASU game last year before you posted this. Go figure!! 34 k+? Like 5-8 K above the non sky show games? 34k announced. 24k butts in seats.
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Post by standiego on Aug 30, 2019 9:31:01 GMT -8
South Dakota State ( Big Sky) lost to Minnesota by 7 points - was winning until 2 turnovers - so we better be prepared for Weber State
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Post by fisherville on Aug 30, 2019 10:12:10 GMT -8
34 k+? Like 5-8 K above the non sky show games? 34k announced. 24k butts in seats. So exactly what I said
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Post by aardvark on Aug 30, 2019 10:35:01 GMT -8
34k announced. 24k butts in seats. So exactly what I said Yeah. Maybe.
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Post by fisher1fan on Aug 30, 2019 10:41:57 GMT -8
South Dakota State ( Big Sky) lost to Minnesota by 7 points - was winning until 2 turnovers - so we better be prepared for Weber State Unrelated
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Post by standiego on Aug 30, 2019 10:55:27 GMT -8
South Dakota State plays in same conference as Weber - so Minnesota was supposed to clobber them at home - but barely beat them - same could happen to the Aztecs if we are not ready to play them
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 11:12:09 GMT -8
South Dakota State ( Big Sky) lost to Minnesota by 7 points - was winning until 2 turnovers - so we better be prepared for Weber State Unrelated ^ Clueless
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Post by fisher1fan on Aug 30, 2019 21:58:24 GMT -8
bigskyconf.com/ -Weber State valley-football.org/index.aspx - South Dakota State How is a member of Missouri Valley (SD State) losing a game to a school they were predicted to lose to “Related” To the member of the big sky conference (Weber State) playing another school in a third conference (Mountain West)? Please provide me your clues to what I’m missing here.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 6:47:25 GMT -8
bigskyconf.com/ -Weber State valley-football.org/index.aspx - South Dakota State How is a member of Missouri Valley (SD State) losing a game to a school they were predicted to lose to “Related” To the member of the big sky conference (Weber State) playing another school in a third conference (Mountain West)? Please provide me your clues to what I’m missing here. standiego was pointing out that FCS programs are competing with teams from the FBS. In this case a P5 program. While he got the conference wrong he posted the example because of clueless comments like this. "Whhhhhhy are we playing Weber State?" "Play a reeeeaaaaaal school" "They literally aren’t on our level. We should only play FBS. Avoid “cupcakes”" "What do you not get about scheduling building respect and playing someone on our level vs playing against a low tier, FCS?"
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Post by fisher1fan on Aug 31, 2019 9:17:12 GMT -8
bigskyconf.com/ -Weber State valley-football.org/index.aspx - South Dakota State How is a member of Missouri Valley (SD State) losing a game to a school they were predicted to lose to “Related” To the member of the big sky conference (Weber State) playing another school in a third conference (Mountain West)? Please provide me your clues to what I’m missing here. standiego was pointing out that FCS programs are competing with teams from the FBS. In this case a P5 program. While he got the conference wrong he posted the example because of clueless comments like this. "Whhhhhhy are we playing Weber State?" "Play a reeeeaaaaaal school" "They literally aren’t on our level. We should only play FBS. Avoid “cupcakes”" "What do you not get about scheduling building respect and playing someone on our level vs playing against a low tier, FCS?" The FCS school lost. Minnesota doesn’t look better for playing them. No respect was GAINED for MN. Zero benefit happened to Minnesota for scheduling this “tough” FCS opponent. FCS and FBS aren’t the same level. How does playing Weber State gain SDSU any positive attention? It’s a worthless game. Go check out Minn’s fans reactions (I didn’t), but it’s obvious. “Why are we playing...”.
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Post by laaztec on Aug 31, 2019 9:42:11 GMT -8
It's now SDSU -12.5
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