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Post by tim on Aug 26, 2012 8:39:33 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2012 10:28:23 GMT -8
Good find. I bookmarked the site since it's the best representation I've seen of where everybody is - literally and figuratively.
The BE map shows that conference can't possibly survive in its 2013 configuration. I continue to think SDSU will eventually be in a new conference with Boise, Houston, SMU and Memphis and maybe also UCF and USF, although most of the fans of the latter two schools who are on the BE board are so annoying I'd just as soon they didn't also join. (Memphis and Houston fans are great. Judging by the BE board, SMU doesn't have any fans.)
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Post by titanczar on Aug 26, 2012 10:42:45 GMT -8
That great education from SDSU is shining through!!
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Post by monty on Aug 26, 2012 10:42:47 GMT -8
Nah, there is a guy who went to UConn but now lives in Dallas, he's almost a fan of SMU
And Memphis fan = UNLV fan
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2012 10:54:12 GMT -8
Must strongly disagree. Both may be basketball schools. However, UNLV fan who actually cares about football (there ARE 100 or so of them after all) just bends over and takes it from their administration. Memphis fan, OTOH, is like SDSU fan in refusing to just take it and instead putting pressure on the administration to do something about it.
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Post by aztecfanatic on Aug 26, 2012 11:14:30 GMT -8
Mr titanczar - Do you plan on trolling on every single thread now?
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Post by jdgaucho on Aug 26, 2012 11:23:07 GMT -8
Good find. I bookmarked the site since it's the best representation I've seen of where everybody is - literally and figuratively. The BE map shows that conference can't possibly survive in its 2013 configuration. I continue to think SDSU will eventually be in a new conference with Boise, Houston, SMU and Memphis and maybe also UCF and USF, although most of the fans of the latter two schools who are on the BE board are so annoying I'd just as soon they didn't also join. (Memphis and Houston fans are great. Judging by the BE board, SMU doesn't have any fans.) Nothing screams new western conference better than two members in eastern Texas and one in a corner of Tennessee
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Post by uncledougy on Aug 26, 2012 11:30:18 GMT -8
Good find. I bookmarked the site since it's the best representation I've seen of where everybody is - literally and figuratively. The BE map shows that conference can't possibly survive in its 2013 configuration. I continue to think SDSU will eventually be in a new conference with Boise, Houston, SMU and Memphis and maybe also UCF and USF, although most of the fans of the latter two schools who are on the BE board are so annoying I'd just as soon they didn't also join. (Memphis and Houston fans are great. Judging by the BE board, SMU doesn't have any fans.) Nothing screams new western conference better than two members in eastern Texas and one in a corner of Tennessee Fact is, all those schools are west of the east!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2012 11:36:11 GMT -8
Nothing screams new western conference better than members in the heart of Texas and Tennessee The cynicism is understandable. But this is the reality. 1. There are still far more people in the eastern half of the country than in the western half. 2. As I assume you would know, many western universities which once had a football program, particularly in California, no longer have one. Insufficient interest in football to overcome the political correctness of the ramification of Title IX is the main reason. Ergo, "western" conference for football cannot mean the left half of the country. More like the western two-thirds of the country. And being partnered with SDSU and Boise would be fine with Memphis, which doesn't in the slightest identify itself with the button down attitude of schools in the East. It's readily apparent on the BE board. Fans of Cincinnati, Louisville, Temple, Rutgers, UConn, UCF and USF almost all think the BE should add ECU whereas nobody else does. Fresno is a better choice in every way that matters and Memphis and Houston fans all see that. (I'm still trying to figure out who Monty thinks is an SMU fan - although I'm sure there must be one out there somewhere.)
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Post by titanczar on Aug 26, 2012 12:32:23 GMT -8
Mr titanczar - Do you plan on trolling on every single thread now? It was a compliment to the great education from SDSU. RIF-Reading is Fundamental!!
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Post by tim on Aug 26, 2012 12:44:28 GMT -8
I took a finance class at Fullerton summer school. When i noticed people next to me were cheating off of me, even after they new I was an Aztec, I knew Fullerton was f****d.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2012 12:54:07 GMT -8
Good find. I bookmarked the site since it's the best representation I've seen of where everybody is - literally and figuratively. The BE map shows that conference can't possibly survive in its 2013 configuration. I continue to think SDSU will eventually be in a new conference with Boise, Houston, SMU and Memphis and maybe also UCF and USF, although most of the fans of the latter two schools who are on the BE board are so annoying I'd just as soon they didn't also join. (Memphis and Houston fans are great. Judging by the BE board, SMU doesn't have any fans.) Funny, this is a complete 180 from what you have said in the past. It's also what I have been saying the whole time, only to get bashed for saying it. SDSU does not belong in a conference with teams East of the Mississippi - or East of the Rockies for that matter. I don't care what the TV money is. I suggested talking the best teams from the MWC the WAC or C-USA and starting a new conference. Again, got bashed. You say it and it's a great idea. Very hypocritical. If you are so HIGH on USF, UCF, or Memphis, (I'm not) put them on the OCC schedule. I'm OK with Houston though. As far as a couple of BE schools and their fans being annoying, they are probably thinking the same thing about SDSU fans.
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Post by monty on Aug 26, 2012 12:58:43 GMT -8
Good find. I bookmarked the site since it's the best representation I've seen of where everybody is - literally and figuratively. The BE map shows that conference can't possibly survive in its 2013 configuration. I continue to think SDSU will eventually be in a new conference with Boise, Houston, SMU and Memphis and maybe also UCF and USF, although most of the fans of the latter two schools who are on the BE board are so annoying I'd just as soon they didn't also join. (Memphis and Houston fans are great. Judging by the BE board, SMU doesn't have any fans.) Funny, this is a complete 180 from what you have said in the past. It's also what I have been saying the whole time, only to get bashed for saying it. SDSU does not belong in a conference with teams East of the Mississippi - or East of the Rockies for that matter. I don't care what the TV money is. I suggested talking the best teams from the MWC the WAC or C-USA and starting a new conference. Again, got bashed. You say it and it's a great idea. Very hypocritical. If you are so HIGH on USF, UCF, or Memphis, (I'm not) put them on the OCC schedule. I'm OK with Houston though. As far as a couple of BE schools and their fans being annoying, they are probably thinking the same thing about SDSU fans. So you'd rather our program die than play teams east of the Rockies?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2012 13:04:40 GMT -8
Funny, this is a complete 180 from what you have said in the past. It's also what I have been saying the whole time, only to get bashed for saying it. SDSU does not belong in a conference with teams East of the Mississippi - or East of the Rockies for that matter. I don't care what the TV money is. I suggested talking the best teams from the MWC the WAC or C-USA and starting a new conference. Again, got bashed. You say it and it's a great idea. Very hypocritical. If you are so HIGH on USF, UCF, or Memphis, (I'm not) put them on the OCC schedule. I'm OK with Houston though. As far as a couple of BE schools and their fans being annoying, they are probably thinking the same thing about SDSU fans. So you'd rather our program die than play teams east of the Rockies? Absolutely not!! Maybe I should have stated playing teams in the same boat as SDSU that are East of the Mississippi or Rockies.
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Post by azteccc on Aug 26, 2012 13:05:34 GMT -8
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Post by myownwords on Aug 26, 2012 13:09:48 GMT -8
Good find. I bookmarked the site since it's the best representation I've seen of where everybody is - literally and figuratively. The BE map shows that conference can't possibly survive in its 2013 configuration. I continue to think SDSU will eventually be in a new conference with Boise, Houston, SMU and Memphis and maybe also UCF and USF, although most of the fans of the latter two schools who are on the BE board are so annoying I'd just as soon they didn't also join. (Memphis and Houston fans are great. Judging by the BE board, SMU doesn't have any fans.) Funny, this is a complete 180 from what you have said in the past. It's also what I have been saying the whole time, only to get bashed for saying it. SDSU does not belong in a conference with teams East of the Mississippi - or East of the Rockies for that matter. I don't care what the TV money is. I suggested talking the best teams from the MWC the WAC or C-USA and starting a new conference. Again, got bashed. You say it and it's a great idea. Very hypocritical. If you are so HIGH on USF, UCF, or Memphis, (I'm not) put them on the OCC schedule. I'm OK with Houston though. As far as a couple of BE schools and their fans being annoying, they are probably thinking the same thing about SDSU fans. Alumtec, I'm not sure what you'd argued in the past, but the result of your suggested plan of action, expressed, as you put it above, "I don't care what the TV money is", borders on suicide for us. We MUST care and that is the lion's share of logic that made this move imperative. As the MWC was/is crumbling we had one opportunity to save the future of D1 football and that was Boise. To have followed any other known path---and particularly yours---would have doomed our program. Perhaps over time we'll be able to assemble teams that have strength, stability and are supported by strong TV revenues. But at least we now have the staying power to do that. All of this of course is just my opinion (for those who have difficulty separating that from facts).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2012 13:35:27 GMT -8
Funny, this is a complete 180 from what you have said in the past. It's also what I have been saying the whole time, only to get bashed for saying it. SDSU does not belong in a conference with teams East of the Mississippi - or East of the Rockies for that matter. I don't care what the TV money is. I suggested talking the best teams from the MWC the WAC or C-USA and starting a new conference. Again, got bashed. You say it and it's a great idea. Very hypocritical. If you are so HIGH on USF, UCF, or Memphis, (I'm not) put them on the OCC schedule. I'm OK with Houston though. As far as a couple of BE schools and their fans being annoying, they are probably thinking the same thing about SDSU fans. Alumtec, I'm not sure what you'd argued in the past, but the result of your suggested plan of action, expressed, as you put it above, "I don't care what the TV money is", borders on suicide for us. We MUST care and that is the lion's share of logic that made this move imperative. As the MWC was/is crumbling we had one opportunity to save the future of D1 football and that was Boise. To have followed any other known path---and particularly yours---would have doomed our program. Perhaps over time we'll be able to assemble teams that have strength, stability and are supported by strong TV revenues. But at least we now have the staying power to do that. All of this of course is just my opinion (for those who have difficulty separating that from facts). Thank you for a reasonable response. I guess we are going to have to wait this mess out patiently.
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Post by monty on Aug 26, 2012 13:51:45 GMT -8
It is not a strawman just because you refuse to see it is a true disjunction. Either we play teams east of the Rockies, or we die in the MWC.
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Post by aztech on Aug 26, 2012 15:02:04 GMT -8
SDSU does not belong in a conference with teams East of the Mississippi - or East of the Rockies for that matter. I don't care what the TV money is. I suggested talking the best teams from the MWC the WAC or C-USA and starting a new conference. Again, got bashed. You say it and it's a great idea. Very hypocritical. If you are so HIGH on USF, UCF, or Memphis, (I'm not) put them on the OCC schedule. I'm OK with Houston though. As far as a couple of BE schools and their fans being annoying, they are probably thinking the same thing about SDSU fans. You say we don't belong in a league with teams east of the Mississippi. I would amend that to say we don't belong in a division with teams east of the Mississippi. If we wanna be playing what now defines DI football, we automatically cannot be in a league comprised solely of teams west of the Mississippi. There just aren't enough of them. There's one thing that people don't realize. Our flights to the east will be much shorter than eastern teams flying west. We'll always have tail winds as evidenced by the storm patterns. It's the eastern teams who may eventually bitch until the cows come home. They're going to be dragging when flying out here. Those who travel a lot know that sitting in planes for an extended period makes overcoming jet lag difficult. Advantage: BSU and SDSU.
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Post by myownwords on Aug 26, 2012 15:32:13 GMT -8
SDSU does not belong in a conference with teams East of the Mississippi - or East of the Rockies for that matter. I don't care what the TV money is. I suggested talking the best teams from the MWC the WAC or C-USA and starting a new conference. Again, got bashed. You say it and it's a great idea. Very hypocritical. If you are so HIGH on USF, UCF, or Memphis, (I'm not) put them on the OCC schedule. I'm OK with Houston though. As far as a couple of BE schools and their fans being annoying, they are probably thinking the same thing about SDSU fans. You say we don't belong in a league with teams east of the Mississippi. I would amend that to say we don't belong in a division with teams east of the Mississippi. If we wanna be playing what now defines DI football, we automatically cannot be in a league comprised solely of teams west of the Mississippi. There just aren't enough of them. That pretty well sums it up JYP. Exclude the Pac-12, what's left? SDSU, Boise, uh, uh, well, uh, not much to pick from. Take, say the SEC from the East, what's left? Probably 50 schools. I'm not being very precise, but you get the point. Hell, YOU made the point already.
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