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Post by monty on Aug 17, 2012 16:11:06 GMT -8
There are only 2 options:
Bitching about the big west or Hazing Big Lots
I am enjoying the 2nd one
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Post by azteccc on Aug 17, 2012 17:28:47 GMT -8
well put. i also wonder, though, what would happen if everyone accepted that the BW move is not acceptable. if all fans put pressure on our administration to keep pursuing more acceptable options, they just may. i definitely agree with your sentiment, but 1. i dont think i would want a recruit that would base a decision off a few posts on an anonymous message board, and 2. i can just imagine german jews telling each other "just go with this guy, if we silence our own doubters he may leave us alone". number 2 was a bad reference, but i think it gets the point across. "shut up and maybe it will go away" to a certain extent. +10 for godwin's law. You've been asked many times. What other options are there? pay the mountain west $3 million per year to accept our bball.
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Post by k5james on Aug 17, 2012 18:14:49 GMT -8
There are only 2 options: Bitching about the big west or Hazing Big Lots I am enjoying the 2nd one This.
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Post by k5james on Aug 17, 2012 18:17:19 GMT -8
You've been asked many times. What other options are there? pay the mountain west $3 million per year to accept our bball. That makes zero sense. You can buy a lot of OOC games for $3 million. Hell, you could probably get UNLV here for a quarter mil, butthurt and all.
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Post by 78aztec82 on Aug 18, 2012 5:16:22 GMT -8
well put. i also wonder, though, what would happen if everyone accepted that the BW move is not acceptable. if all fans put pressure on our administration to keep pursuing more acceptable options, they just may. i definitely agree with your sentiment, but 1. i dont think i would want a recruit that would base a decision off a few posts on an anonymous message board, and 2. i can just imagine german jews telling each other "just go with this guy, if we silence our own doubters he may leave us alone". number 2 was a bad reference, but i think it gets the point across. "shut up and maybe it will go away" to a certain extent. +10 for godwin's law. You've been asked many times. What other options are there? My question exactly. Beat me to it.
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Post by monty on Aug 18, 2012 5:47:48 GMT -8
You've been asked many times. What other options are there? pay the mountain west $3 million per year to accept our bball. great plan, genius. So to play a couple good teams and travel to some awful locales we're going to spend 3 million bucks? This is your great plan that you admonish the rest of us for not thinking up? may god have mercy on your soul
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Post by jdgaucho on Aug 18, 2012 9:20:43 GMT -8
pay the mountain west $3 million per year to accept our bball. great plan, genius. So to play a couple good teams and travel to some awful locales we're going to spend 3 million bucks? This is your great plan that you admonish the rest of us for not thinking up? may god have mercy on your soul
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Post by azteccc on Aug 18, 2012 9:27:27 GMT -8
pay the mountain west $3 million per year to accept our bball. great plan, genius. So to play a couple good teams and travel to some awful locales we're going to spend 3 million bucks? This is your great plan that you admonish the rest of us for not thinking up? may god have mercy on your soul Annnnnd there is the problem some of you dolts can't grasp. It's not about unm or unlv. It's Nevada vs. Uci. It's Colo st vs. Northridge. And on down the line for 18 conference games. It's being able to get an at large vs. praying cal poly doesn't make a buzzer beater. It's keeping a trajectory vs. going to the 26th best conference a year or two before the best coach in the west turns the team over to a relative unknown. The sooner some of you start to understand the consequences of the move the sooner we can work together to never play a game in the big west - especially in its current composition.
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Post by 78aztec82 on Aug 18, 2012 9:32:37 GMT -8
great plan, genius. So to play a couple good teams and travel to some awful locales we're going to spend 3 million bucks? This is your great plan that you admonish the rest of us for not thinking up? may god have mercy on your soul Annnnnd there is the problem some of you dolts can't grasp. It's not about unm or unlv. It's Nevada vs. Uci. It's Colo st vs. Northridge. And on down the line for 18 conference games. It's being able to get an at large vs. praying cal poly doesn't make a buzzer beater. It's keeping a trajectory vs. going to the 26th best conference a year or two before the best coach in the west turns the team over to a relative unknown. The sooner some of you start to understand the consequences of the move the sooner we can work together to never play a game in the big west - especially in its current composition. So, for us "dolts, " what are the serious options? Step up. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards
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Post by 78aztec82 on Aug 18, 2012 9:48:02 GMT -8
great plan, genius. So to play a couple good teams and travel to some awful locales we're going to spend 3 million bucks? This is your great plan that you admonish the rest of us for not thinking up? may god have mercy on your soul Annnnnd there is the problem some of you dolts can't grasp. It's not about unm or unlv. It's Nevada vs. Uci. It's Colo st vs. Northridge. And on down the line for 18 conference games. It's being able to get an at large vs. praying cal poly doesn't make a buzzer beater. It's keeping a trajectory vs. going to the 26th best conference a year or two before the best coach in the west turns the team over to a relative unknown. The sooner some of you start to understand the consequences of the move the sooner we can work together to never play a game in the big west - especially in its current composition. BTW, I can think of potentially $10 million reasons. Second, I have incredible faith in Fish and love our cherished hoops program but there is no guarantee it will remain at this level after he retires. That is further complicated by the meager and declining revenue model we are constrained by, under the control of an incompetent idiot for years to come. Solve that for the dolts. Step up. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards
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Post by beefeater on Aug 18, 2012 9:48:13 GMT -8
great plan, genius. So to play a couple good teams and travel to some awful locales we're going to spend 3 million bucks? This is your great plan that you admonish the rest of us for not thinking up? may god have mercy on your soul Annnnnd there is the problem some of you dolts can't grasp. It's not about unm or unlv. It's Nevada vs. Uci. It's Colo st vs. Northridge. And on down the line for 18 conference games. It's being able to get an at large vs. praying cal poly doesn't make a buzzer beater. It's keeping a trajectory vs. going to the 26th best conference a year or two before the best coach in the west turns the team over to a relative unknown. The sooner some of you start to understand the consequences of the move the sooner we can work together to never play a game in the big west - especially in its current composition. Grasp this. If, or when, a better opportunity for SDSU becomes available, you will make your move. It's got nothing to do with your attitude toward the BWC. You have about as much power to shorten SDSU's stay in the BWC as you do to affect the outcome of the Presidency.
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Post by jdgaucho on Aug 18, 2012 10:01:26 GMT -8
great plan, genius. So to play a couple good teams and travel to some awful locales we're going to spend 3 million bucks? This is your great plan that you admonish the rest of us for not thinking up? may god have mercy on your soul Annnnnd there is the problem some of you dolts can't grasp. It's not about unm or unlv. It's Nevada vs. Uci. It's Colo st vs. Northridge. And on down the line for 18 conference games. It's being able to get an at large vs. praying cal poly doesn't make a buzzer beater. It's keeping a trajectory vs. going to the 26th best conference a year or two before the best coach in the west turns the team over to a relative unknown. The sooner some of you start to understand the consequences of the move the sooner we can work together to never play a game in the big west - especially in its current composition. so then you have one year to get rid of jim sterk. good luck with that one!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2012 10:17:59 GMT -8
You've been asked many times. What other options are there? pay the mountain west $3 million per year to accept our bball. # of MWC officials, media pundits, internet bloggers, sports message board posters and other human beings who I've heard suggest that: absolute 0. With due respect, get a clue. Today's MWC is yesterday's WAC. As I keep saying, if you want to know where the MWC will be a decade from now, just check the WAC today.
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Post by beefeater on Aug 18, 2012 10:23:34 GMT -8
Trying to be helpful.
Realistically, nobody is getting kicked out of the BWC, and like I just pointed out, if/when SDSU leaves the BWC it will be because an opportunity arises, not because you complain your way out.
But, what you might be able to do exert some pressure toward expansion. You already did that with Boise State. New Mexico State is out there. Of course, if Fresno gets a Big East invite, you won't have to do anything, because that's a no brainer. The BWC will absorb Fresno in a heartbeat.
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Post by jdgaucho on Aug 18, 2012 10:40:51 GMT -8
pay the mountain west $3 million per year to accept our bball. # of MWC officials, media pundits, internet bloggers, sports message board posters and other human beings who I've heard suggest that: absolute 0. With due respect, get a clue. Today's MWC is yesterday's WAC. As I keep saying, if you want to know where the MWC will be a decade from now, just check the WAC today. thank you! apparently some of you do not appreciate what big east money will mean for football. at least SGF gets it. staying in the MWC means two things: improved basketball, but probably also the loss of football. you can't have your cake and eat it too. some tough choices have to be made so have some confidence in jim sterk. now where will the Big West be in a decade? better than today and it's already on the upswing. The BW will benefit from SDSU's homecoming no matter how brief it is. Hawaii is a committed member. and since everyone else is tearing up the landscape for football, the Big West remains protected from all the carnage. It is a stable vessel that will cruise along, not looking back.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2012 11:02:22 GMT -8
Trying to be helpful. Realistically, nobody is getting kicked out of the BWC, and like I just pointed out, if/when SDSU leaves the BWC it will be because an opportunity arises, not because you complain your way out. But, what you might be able to do exert some pressure toward expansion. You already did that with Boise State. New Mexico State is out there. Of course, if Fresno gets a Big East invite, you won't have to do anything, because that's a no brainer. The BWC will absorb Fresno in a heartbeat. That segues to this. Despite the naivete of a bunch of UCF and USF doofuses on the BE board, BYU isn't going to join that conference as long as the Borg manages to continue to fill its football schedule and they're already fine through 2014. Since that is the deadline for adding a 14th football playing member to join along with Navy, BYU is simply not going to join the BE, at least for the foreseeable future. The BE is committed to making that 14th school a member of the western division, so the other doofuses there who keep advocating ECU as an alternative are similarly going to be disappointed. So it comes down to this. If AFA joins, it will have no potential effect on the BLC since AFA would probably join the Missouri Valley Conference for its Olympic sports (and drag them down, but that's their problem). So here's the deal. If AFA's commandant continues to oppose their joining the MVC because of the potential impact on academics, Fresno is bound to be joining the BE for football in 2015 and, therefore, also the BLC. If the BLC could get both Fresno and NMSU, the conference would surely become an annual two-bid league and could be a reasonably permanent home for SDSU. However, to repeat the accusation I made above, I think the average BLC school is scared to death of that happening. God forbid it should actually add GOOD programs which might force the current dregs to step it up.
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Post by quickdraw on Aug 18, 2012 11:57:26 GMT -8
Trying to be helpful. Realistically, nobody is getting kicked out of the BWC, and like I just pointed out, if/when SDSU leaves the BWC it will be because an opportunity arises, not because you complain your way out. But, what you might be able to do exert some pressure toward expansion. You already did that with Boise State. New Mexico State is out there. Of course, if Fresno gets a Big East invite, you won't have to do anything, because that's a no brainer. The BWC will absorb Fresno in a heartbeat. That segues to this. Despite the naivete of a bunch of UCF and USF doofuses on the BE board, BYU isn't going to join that conference as long as the Borg manages to continue to fill its football schedule and they're already fine through 2014. Since that is the deadline for adding a 14th football playing member to join along with Navy, BYU is simply not going to join the BE, at least for the foreseeable future. The BE is committed to making that 14th school a member of the western division, so the other doofuses there who keep advocating ECU as an alternative are similarly going to be disappointed. So it comes down to this. If AFA joins, it will have no potential effect on the BLC since AFA would probably join the Missouri Valley Conference for its Olympic sports (and drag them down, but that's their problem). So here's the deal. If AFA's commandant continues to oppose their joining the MVC because of the potential impact on academics, Fresno is bound to be joining the BE for football in 2015 and, therefore, also the BLC. If the BLC could get both Fresno and NMSU, the conference would surely become an annual two-bid league and could be a reasonably permanent home for SDSU.. However, to repeat the accusation I made above, I think the average BLC school is scared to death of that happening. God forbid it should actually add GOOD programs which might force the current dregs to step it up. And there it is, the first acknowledgement of the bW being a permanent home for SDSU MBB. Now that wasn't so hard, was it? But I don't see how #277 FSU makes the bW a 2 bid conference. @ bids don't go to a #20+ conference. Last year the bW was #25 and none of the new or even possible new teams will get it above 20. It also takes more than 1 good teasm to pull 6 very bad teams up.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2012 12:10:33 GMT -8
And there it is, the first acknowledgement of the bW being a permanent home for SDSU MBB. Now that wasn't so hard, was it? Only if the BLS also adds Fresno and NMSU, slowbrain. And then there's the remainder of my hypothesis. If Fresno joins the BE/BLC, it will be exactly at the time the MWC TV deal will be up for renegotiation. As such, with all the departures, the MWC will have next to zero bargaining power. As such, the three front range schools will be a natural to bail for CUSA.
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Post by quickdraw on Aug 18, 2012 12:16:44 GMT -8
And there it is, the first acknowledgement of the bW being a permanent home for SDSU MBB. Now that wasn't so hard, was it? Only if the BLS also adds Fresno and NMSU, slowbrain. And then there's the remainder of my hypothesis. If Fresno joins the BE/BLC, it will be exactly at the time the MWC TV deal will be up for renegotiation. As such, with all the departures, the MWC will have next to zero bargaining power. As such, the three front range schools will be a natural to bail for CUSA. Here it is once again for you. It's will become more obvious that you can unpack your bags and settle into the bW. You aren't going anywhere for 10 to 12 years. But I don't see how #277 FSU makes the bW a 2 bid conference. 2 bids don't go to a #20+ conference. Last year the bW was #25 and none of the new or even possible new teams will get it above 20. It also takes more than 1 good teasm to pull 6 very bad teams up. Where does NMSU come from? On 1 board you dog them and now they are the savior. And that's MR Slowbrain to you. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2012 12:28:18 GMT -8
Time to stick to the MWC board where similarly biased fans of UNM, UNR, SJSU and USU will favorably view your comments.
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