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Post by iambballanalyst on Aug 13, 2012 13:46:28 GMT -8
The only people who have watched Jamaal closely and still doubt his NBA potential are Aztec fans on this board lol. The others who doubt him, do so because they haven't really seen him play. You got to a drew leeague game and everyone is buzzing about how he's "the next big thing" lol
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Post by longtimesdsufan on Aug 13, 2012 13:48:09 GMT -8
What we saw last year from Jamaal was not enough to be a lottery pick. However, if he improves as much for his junior year as he did for his sophomore year, then it will be interesting.
Do not compare Franklin to Leonard. One is a defender rebounder and the other is a scorer (and don't compare getting rebounds on a 4 guard team with a 2 guard team). Off the court is no comparison either.
I agree with many that Jamaal plays more like a 3 than a 2. And we saw him playing 4 last year also. But we should not see that his year.
We will have to see how he fits in with his new teammates. The soonest we could know is by January, as to if he is a lottery pick this year. Anyone who thinks they know better would say that the USA would win every gold metal.
Most people think he has the physical talent. They just question if his decision making has reached the same level.
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Post by iambballanalyst on Aug 13, 2012 13:51:31 GMT -8
What we saw last year from Jamaal was not enough to be a lottery pick. However, if he improves as much for his junior year as he did for his sophomore year, then it will be interesting. Do not compare Franklin to Leonard. One is a defender rebounder and the other is a scorer (and don't compare getting rebounds on a 4 guard team with a 2 guard team). Off the court is no comparison either. I agree with many that Jamaal plays more like a 3 than a 2. And we saw him playing 4 last year also. But we should not see that his year. We will have to see how he fits in with his new teammates. The soonest we could know is by January, as to if he is a lottery pick this year. Anyone who thinks they know better would say that the USA would win every gold metal. Most people think he has the physical talent. They just question if his decision making has reached the same level. We saw Austin Rivers, Dion Waiters, and Jeremy Lamb selected as lottery picks...and folks still say Jamaal's 20/10 as a starter isn't enough? lol. We'll see. I say it's more than enough. And when he gets to the NBA, he'll be dropping 20 on the All Stars SGs.
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Post by iambballanalyst on Aug 13, 2012 13:54:55 GMT -8
You mention off the court...what do you know about these kids character off the court? If you're just going by media then you're totally misjudging these kids.
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Post by untitled on Aug 13, 2012 13:58:15 GMT -8
You mention off the court...what do you know about these kids character off the court? If you're just going by media then you're totally misjudging these kids. well...he did drive drunk. hopefully he learned his lesson, but still. other than that I have no idea. I HAVE heard that Tim Shelton fellow is a pretty decent guy, though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2012 13:58:55 GMT -8
You mention off the court...what do you know about these kids character off the court? If you're just going by media then you're totally misjudging these kids. Agree with this
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Post by mySTRAS on Aug 13, 2012 14:05:32 GMT -8
What we saw last year from Jamaal was not enough to be a lottery pick. However, if he improves as much for his junior year as he did for his sophomore year, then it will be interesting. Do not compare Franklin to Leonard. One is a defender rebounder and the other is a scorer (and don't compare getting rebounds on a 4 guard team with a 2 guard team). Off the court is no comparison either. I agree with many that Jamaal plays more like a 3 than a 2. And we saw him playing 4 last year also. But we should not see that his year. We will have to see how he fits in with his new teammates. The soonest we could know is by January, as to if he is a lottery pick this year. Anyone who thinks they know better would say that the USA would win every gold metal. Most people think he has the physical talent. They just question if his decision making has reached the same level. We saw Austin Rivers, Dion Waiters, and Jeremy Lamb selected as lottery picks...and folks still say Jamaal's 20/10 as a starter isn't enough? lol. We'll see. I say it's more than enough. And when he gets to the NBA, he'll be dropping 20 on the All Stars SGs. Level of competition has just a little bit to do with it... ACC Big East Mountain West Which one doesn't belong?
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Post by iambballanalyst on Aug 13, 2012 14:12:33 GMT -8
You mention off the court...what do you know about these kids character off the court? If you're just going by media then you're totally misjudging these kids. well...he did drive drunk. hopefully he learned his lesson, but still. other than that I have no idea. I HAVE heard that Tim Shelton fellow is a pretty decent guy, though. Had the "DUI" incident happend just 6 months later when Jamaal turned 21, we would have never heard about it...and if he hadn't been pulled over, we wouldn't have heard about it either. It's funny how we jump to conclusions about peoples character based on isolated incidents. Tim Shelton is seen as this token guy for great character, but do you think (in 5 years of College) he's ever played beer pong? Ever slept with a groupie, ever cursed, ever smoked weed?? lol At what point do we draw the line and start judging people?
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Post by mySTRAS on Aug 13, 2012 17:20:24 GMT -8
well...he did drive drunk. hopefully he learned his lesson, but still. other than that I have no idea. I HAVE heard that Tim Shelton fellow is a pretty decent guy, though. Had the "DUI" incident happend just 6 months later when Jamaal turned 21, we would have never heard about it...and if he hadn't been pulled over, we wouldn't have heard about it either. It's funny how we jump to conclusions about peoples character based on isolated incidents. Tim Shelton is seen as this token guy for great character, but do you think (in 5 years of College) he's ever played beer pong? Ever slept with a groupie, ever cursed, ever smoked weed?? lol At what point do we draw the line and start judging people? Playing beer pong is the same as climbing behind the wheel of a car while drunk?
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Post by uncledougy on Aug 13, 2012 17:33:41 GMT -8
well...he did drive drunk. hopefully he learned his lesson, but still. other than that I have no idea. I HAVE heard that Tim Shelton fellow is a pretty decent guy, though. Had the "DUI" incident happend just 6 months later when Jamaal turned 21, we would have never heard about it...and if he hadn't been pulled over, we wouldn't have heard about it either. It's funny how we jump to conclusions about peoples character based on isolated incidents. Tim Shelton is seen as this token guy for great character, but do you think (in 5 years of College) he's ever played beer pong? Ever slept with a groupie, ever cursed, ever smoked weed?? lol At what point do we draw the line and start judging people? Lotta "Ifs".....if my aunt had...... Fact, caught drinking underage....no ifs about it. If you are speeding at 80 mph and another guy is going 90....you're both breaking the law.
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Post by danloc09 on Aug 13, 2012 17:35:52 GMT -8
well...he did drive drunk. hopefully he learned his lesson, but still. other than that I have no idea. I HAVE heard that Tim Shelton fellow is a pretty decent guy, though. Had the "DUI" incident happend just 6 months later when Jamaal turned 21, we would have never heard about it...and if he hadn't been pulled over, we wouldn't have heard about it either. It's funny how we jump to conclusions about peoples character based on isolated incidents. Tim Shelton is seen as this token guy for great character, but do you think (in 5 years of College) he's ever played beer pong? Ever slept with a groupie, ever cursed, ever smoked weed?? lol At what point do we draw the line and start judging people? I don't care if Shelton did any of that. It doesn't potentially hurt others. Then again I don't think the DUI should really be a factor regarding Jamaal's NBA potential. He made a mistake but I dont think there is really a pattern of negative behavior or anything.
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Post by 78aztec82 on Aug 13, 2012 17:39:56 GMT -8
Marco Bellanelli TORE up the summer leagues after being drafted by the Warriors a number of years back... averaged 30+/game... all us Warrior fans were ecstatic... and then... well... ANYBODY EVER HEARD OF MARCO? The summer leagues are ABSOLUTE GARBAGE. There is no defense played at all. It's a glorified And1 waste of time. Perhaps you should hound all of the folks that put together mock drafts and ask them why Jamaal isn't projected as a lottery pick??? My projections are forward thinking based on what he is capable of doing in the coming season. nbadraft.net projects him Top 20 based on what he did last year. I'm guessing that he'll jump at least 6 spots before its all over. You say there is NO chance, I say there is a great chance, thats all. I agree with you, summer means nothing, just fun to watch. BBA, this is my beef with you. You forcibly polarize folks by essentially either agreeing with your thoughts or that they are against your guy. We all think Jamaal is phenomenal. There is no doubt but whether he is lottery or a solid draft pick this year or perhaps next but he is still young and has a tremendous upside. We are excited for him but he is one star on a team loaded with them. Team. Lets get off this and let his play lead our fandom vice being so polarizing. If you are trying to give him a chip on his shoulder by instigating division, you are failing because Jamaal has really blossomed as a team guy. I hope to hear from him that his only goal is a national championship, not a draft position or some other individual award.
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Post by iambballanalyst on Aug 13, 2012 18:42:38 GMT -8
My projections are forward thinking based on what he is capable of doing in the coming season. nbadraft.net projects him Top 20 based on what he did last year. I'm guessing that he'll jump at least 6 spots before its all over. You say there is NO chance, I say there is a great chance, thats all. I agree with you, summer means nothing, just fun to watch. BBA, this is my beef with you. You forcibly polarize folks by essentially either agreeing with your thoughts or that they are against your guy. We all think Jamaal is phenomenal. There is no doubt but whether he is lottery or a solid draft pick this year or perhaps next but he is still young and has a tremendous upside. We are excited for him but he is one star on a team loaded with them. Team. Lets get off this and let his play lead our fandom vice being so polarizing. If you are trying to give him a chip on his shoulder by instigating division, you are failing because Jamaal has really blossomed as a team guy. I hope to hear from him that his only goal is a national championship, not a draft position or some other individual award. If the team was "loaded with stars" we'd be projected higher than an 8th seed and we'd have more guys in either this year or next years mock draft. SDSU has 1 star and a bunch of good players. If you mention Creighton, you think of Doug McDermott. Nobody thinks that team is "loaded with stars" because they aren't. SDSU is the same type of team. 1 Star, many good players, great coach.
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Post by 78aztec82 on Aug 13, 2012 18:46:42 GMT -8
BBA, this is my beef with you. You forcibly polarize folks by essentially either agreeing with your thoughts or that they are against your guy. We all think Jamaal is phenomenal. There is no doubt but whether he is lottery or a solid draft pick this year or perhaps next but he is still young and has a tremendous upside. We are excited for him but he is one star on a team loaded with them. Team. Lets get off this and let his play lead our fandom vice being so polarizing. If you are trying to give him a chip on his shoulder by instigating division, you are failing because Jamaal has really blossomed as a team guy. I hope to hear from him that his only goal is a national championship, not a draft position or some other individual award. If the team was "loaded with stars" we'd be projected higher than an 8th seed and we'd have more guys in either this year or next years mock draft. SDSU has 1 star and a bunch of good players. If you mention Creighton, you think of Doug McDermott. Nobody thinks that team is "loaded with stars" because they aren't. SDSU is the same type of team. 1 Star, many good players, great coach. I don't think Winston is the only star on the team. C-Tap and Jamaal are stars too. Polee may achieve that as well. The team, IMO, is loaded. The sooner the act as a team and chemistry comes together will be critical for our run.
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Post by iambballanalyst on Aug 13, 2012 18:49:12 GMT -8
If the team was "loaded with stars" we'd be projected higher than an 8th seed and we'd have more guys in either this year or next years mock draft. SDSU has 1 star and a bunch of good players. If you mention Creighton, you think of Doug McDermott. Nobody thinks that team is "loaded with stars" because they aren't. SDSU is the same type of team. 1 Star, many good players, great coach. I don't think Winston is the only star on the team. C-Tap and Jamaal are stars too. Polee may achieve that as well. The team, IMO, is loaded. The sooner the act as a team and chemistry comes together will be critical for our run. Winston is NOT a star lol. Not even close. Chase and X, can be considered team stars, but only 1 Aztec will be considered for a National award and NBA draft pick.
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Post by 78aztec82 on Aug 13, 2012 18:53:55 GMT -8
I don't think Winston is the only star on the team. C-Tap and Jamaal are stars too. Polee may achieve that as well. The team, IMO, is loaded. The sooner the act as a team and chemistry comes together will be critical for our run. Winston is NOT a star lol. Not even close You shouldn't be so divisive. It only hurts Jamaal. You don't even get it. See my previous psot to how I feel about divisiveness in a team sport.
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Post by iambballanalyst on Aug 13, 2012 19:01:38 GMT -8
Winston is NOT a star lol. Not even close You shouldn't be so divisive. It only hurts Jamaal. You don't even get it. See my previous psot to how I feel about divisiveness in a team sport. The only divisiveness is between BBA and 50% of this board who take a false stance as the "voice" of all Aztec fans. If you believe the divisiveness goes beyond that then someone is taking this board way too serious. Players know who's who when they get out on that court. Every Aztec player knows Jamaal is the leader of that team.
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Post by aztecgold on Aug 13, 2012 19:05:21 GMT -8
Uh, Kawai Leonard was not a lottery pick and he was a much better player than Jamaal is.
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Post by iambballanalyst on Aug 13, 2012 19:09:53 GMT -8
Uh, Kawai Leonard was not a lottery pick and he was a much better player than Jamaal is. Not true. Kawhi was NOT "much better" than Jamaal. If you look at their #s, they don't reflect that at all. Jamaal demonstrated much more offensive ability, just as much heart and hustle, and more impressive rebounding numbers considering their respective sizes. Jamaal was also the much better freethrow shooter. Both players struggled from 3, but Jamaal demonstrated he was clutch and won games for the Aztecs in the final seconds. Kawhi was undoubtedly more popular among Aztec fans, but Jamaal will be drafted higher than Kawhi was. Both players will have great NBA careers.
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Post by mySTRAS on Aug 13, 2012 19:19:05 GMT -8
I don't think Winston is the only star on the team. C-Tap and Jamaal are stars too. Polee may achieve that as well. The team, IMO, is loaded. The sooner the act as a team and chemistry comes together will be critical for our run. Winston is NOT a star lol. Not even close. Chase and X, can be considered team stars, but only 1 Aztec will be considered for a National award and NBA draft pick. Using your logic... Jamaal can be considered a MWC star.
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