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Post by Old School on Aug 5, 2010 6:15:33 GMT -8
I think Driver peaked in HS, that's why he can't crack the 3 deep.
If it sounds like I'm calling him out, I am.
I'm a little disappointed that players like him get as much attention, then vanish in college. So much was expected when we recruited him.
I hope he breaks out this year. Otherwise, he's a bust.
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Post by k5james on Aug 5, 2010 7:24:25 GMT -8
I think Driver peaked in HS, that's why he can't crack the 3 deep. If it sounds like I'm calling him out, I am. I'm a little disappointed that players like him get as much attention, then vanish in college. So much was expected when we recruited him. I hope he breaks out this year. Otherwise, he's a bust. Oldie Out He's a bust because he can't break out as a rs frosh?  |
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Post by SD Johnny on Aug 5, 2010 7:29:43 GMT -8
He weighs less than he did in high school according to the media guide which isn't good and makes me wonder. He hasn't played a down yet as an Aztec so to say he peaked in high school is a joke. You guys are putting way too much stock in the pre-camp depth chart...its going to change completely prior to the first game. I think Driver peaked in HS, that's why he can't crack the 3 deep. If it sounds like I'm calling him out, I am. I'm a little disappointed that players like him get as much attention, then vanish in college. So much was expected when we recruited him. I hope he breaks out this year. Otherwise, he's a bust. Oldie Out |
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Post by Old School on Aug 5, 2010 8:50:01 GMT -8
Yeah, I may be over-reacting. I'm just eager to see this kid do his thing for us.
That's all.
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Post by lovedaaztecs on Aug 6, 2010 8:29:35 GMT -8
I think Driver peaked in HS, that's why he can't crack the 3 deep.
If it sounds like I'm calling him out, I am.
I'm a little disappointed that players like him get as much attention, then vanish in college. So much was expected when we recruited him.
I hope he breaks out this year. Otherwise, he's a bust.
Oldie Out
The word on Driver is that he was not confortable playing outside backer( more like DE in this Defense), so asked to be moved back to middle where he felt more comfortable. He was told he could but needed to put on 15-20 pounds to get any playing time. I did see him at the end of Black and white game and he did look 200-205. But I heard he took coaches request to heart this summer and is now 220ish and very strong. See what he plays like with the extra weight, his game used to be down hill football, but this change may be a good one for him. But I agree, he better get it done this year and get some PT, or he will be labeled a Long recruit and they will pass him by.
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Post by ron on Aug 6, 2010 9:18:12 GMT -8
Driver seems like a good fit for the Aztec position, at least on paper.
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Post by pdraztec on Aug 6, 2010 10:59:00 GMT -8
I'm with bill456.......this current depth chart tweeking is probably a reflection of input from from the weight coach and new info on injured players, etc.. It will sort itself out as Fall practice unfolds.
Don't overly worry about Driver.....Colin Shumate was a 3-time all-state (first team) performer in Nevada and is now 2nd team at one of the LB positions....does that make him an underachiever?...hardly.
Perry Jackson has basically not played for a year due to an injury but is cleared for practice......and will make his presence felt in a hurry.
I would guess that there will be some more changes as we approach the 1st game........and those will be dictated by how the guys perform and assimilate the system.
KO and PR teams will be interesting and will say a lot.
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Post by standiego on Aug 6, 2010 11:33:06 GMT -8
more important is the chart at the end of next week
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Post by rickdoerr on Aug 6, 2010 14:34:42 GMT -8
FWIW, per Hacksaw, Perry Jackson cleared to practice. Preston King a medical problem and Hemmings not recovered yet from spring injury. Bolanos weighs in at 330.
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Post by ron on Aug 7, 2010 4:14:04 GMT -8
more important is the chart at the end of next week I'm sure there is a bit of psychology factored into the depth chart at this point. Hoke wants to see how certain guys respond to being hurdled on the depth chart. Plus, I'm guessing if you didn't have 100% participation in the offseason workouts it is reflected on the chart too. |
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Post by aztecfanatic on Aug 7, 2010 7:58:48 GMT -8
I think that just maybe it won't be as easy as some seem to think to 'catch Steve in his hypocrisy' and 'expose' him to the world. (or the board). Has anyone else noticed that all the arguments seem to go in circles and end up in just plain namecalling. Who started it? He pushed me -- He pushed me first ..... and on and on and on. I know Steve reasonably well and always enjoy the time I spend with him; we talk almost exclusively Aztecs and he has NEVER, even once brought this subject up. So, even though it does seem like it at times, I don't believe he is obsessed with it as many on here have accused. My point .... posting multiple times that he should let it go is rather silly. Maybe, just maybe, the other person can let it go and achieve the result we all say we want. Ok, having said that now we can continue with the 'why should I stop if he won't' dialogue.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2010 9:21:06 GMT -8
I think that just maybe it won't be as easy as some seem to think to 'catch Steve in his hypocrisy' and 'expose' him to the world. (or the board). Has anyone else noticed that all the arguments seem to go in circles and end up in just plain namecalling. Who started it? He pushed me -- He pushed me first ..... and on and on and on. I know Steve reasonably well and always enjoy the time I spend with him; we talk almost exclusively Aztecs and he has NEVER, even once brought this subject up. So, even though it does seem like it at times, I don't believe he is obsessed with it as many on here have accused. My point .... posting multiple times that he should let it go is rather silly. Maybe, just maybe, the other person can let it go and achieve the result we all say we want. Ok, having said that now we can continue with the 'why should I stop if he won't' dialogue. It's become the cancer of the board. Actually, that's not strong enough. It's BEEN the cancer of the board for at least a year and a half and who's to blame can be debated until the Aztecs win the national championship (that is to say until the end of time) but one thing is inarguable: every single one of us who has ever weighed in on it - that includes me and you here - is responsible to at least some extent. Period. |
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Post by steveaztec on Aug 7, 2010 10:45:54 GMT -8
I think that just maybe it won't be as easy as some seem to think to 'catch Steve in his hypocrisy' and 'expose' him to the world. (or the board). Has anyone else noticed that all the arguments seem to go in circles and end up in just plain namecalling. Who started it? He pushed me -- He pushed me first ..... and on and on and on. I know Steve reasonably well and always enjoy the time I spend with him; we talk almost exclusively Aztecs and he has NEVER, even once brought this subject up. So, even though it does seem like it at times, I don't believe he is obsessed with it as many on here have accused. My point .... posting multiple times that he should let it go is rather silly. Maybe, just maybe, the other person can let it go and achieve the result we all say we want. Ok, having said that now we can continue with the 'why should I stop if he won't' dialogue. It's become the cancer of the board. Actually, that's not strong enough. It's BEEN the cancer of the board for at least a year and a half and who's to blame can be debated until the Aztecs win the national championship (that is to say until the end of time) but one thing is inarguable: every single one of us who has ever weighed in on it - that includes me and you here - is responsible to at least some extent. Period. Until we win a National Championship?  I Hoke not SGF. Just reminder of something in the past with Aztec Boards. I also fought with Ted Tollner haters (You were one of them, of course under a different name at that time) for about 2 years in a row, much similar to the Chuck Long battles. It eventually went away, and this will too. There is always Hoke in every situation. |
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Post by zurac315 on Aug 8, 2010 15:31:01 GMT -8
What about the kicker, Perez. People seemed really excited about him?
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Post by dshawfan on Aug 8, 2010 15:46:49 GMT -8
What about the kicker, Perez. People seemed really excited about him? If he is as good as advertised, he could make a huge difference. It's a whole lot different to have to go 80 yards versus 65 yards for a TD. You've got a whole lot more of your playbook that you are willing to consider when you are out near the 40 versus starting around your own 20. Now if he adds as a FG kicker as well, it just gets better. |
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Post by monty on Aug 8, 2010 17:01:15 GMT -8
What about the kicker, Perez. People seemed really excited about him? If he is as good as advertised, he could make a huge difference. It's a whole lot different to have to go 80 yards versus 65 yards for a TD. You've got a whole lot more of your playbook that you are willing to consider when you are out near the 40 versus starting around your own 20. Now if he adds as a FG kicker as well, it just gets better. 2 1st downs gets you a field goal (and we gave up something like a field goal or so more a game than we even attempted last year) when you start at the 40ish. As bad as his kicking was, we still gave up 25 yards a return, but, I'm expecting those 3 redshirts in the d-backfield, some of these young linebackers and full backs/h-backs and wide receivers along with perez to make an immediate impact on special teams. We are at a point with this program that if a true frosh can play special teams he needs to burn his redshirt. |
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Post by aztech on Aug 8, 2010 17:10:10 GMT -8
What about the kicker, Perez. People seemed really excited about him? If he is as good as advertised, he could make a huge difference. It's a whole lot different to have to go 80 yards versus 65 yards for a TD. You've got a whole lot more of your playbook that you are willing to consider when you are out near the 40 versus starting around your own 20. Now if he adds as a FG kicker as well, it just gets better. Man, I'll say. Those touchbacks will give us the field advantage that we've lacked over the years. Our opponents will have to think twice about those long bombs when they're on their own 20 yard line. |
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I Hoke not SGF.