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Post by mojo on Aug 4, 2010 16:00:41 GMT -8
he has been done rehabbing his knee. but its pretty simple. the reason why you dont see him on the depth chart is because he isnt good enough and hasnt done anything to show that he should be on there. Is that because he's been rehabbing, or is he overrated? As he's been rehabbing his knee, he hasn't, as yet, competed for the position, and can't be considered on the depth chart yet. JMO. Let's see wot happens in fall camp. |
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Post by steveaztec on Aug 4, 2010 16:02:30 GMT -8
you still didn't answer my question... you simply stated something you've regurgitated 100 times which did not contradict my factually correct story... i will repeat for you: "one day you are saying you wont bring it up unless someone else does and then the next you are justifying bringing it up first because "you know" someone else will. thats called being a hypocrit." this behavior perpetuates the problem. you have to admit that you are now creating the problem and stop blaming other people. just admit it and we can all move on. I did answer it....You just didn't get it. I have never said I would stop talking about Chuck Long.....I have said I would stop talking about Chuck Long if all others did too. How hard is that to understand? Now, for the sake of the thread and the board. I think really like our depth at Wide Receiver. Sampson and Brown are very good, but they aren't the only ones. |
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Post by thomgeno on Aug 4, 2010 16:03:23 GMT -8
Steve did not bring up Chuck Long. One of the previous psoters did.  WRONG geno, go back and read and you will find that steve was the first to mention anything about Long. Actually, I believe that you need to review page 1 of this thread. About the depth chart... 1. Watched Spring Ball n Jacob Driver has a long way to go before playing.. Still small and I remember him walkn off the field without pads and has very narrow shoulders.. I think it will be a few years before he sees anything 2. O-Line of old (Miller, Quinones,Etc) will not play if they don't have to.. Look at the initial depth chart which is very generic yet guys who weren't even in the program in the spring are listed ahead.. Tells me that Miller hasn't translated and isn't going to be a college lineman..That class of Oline that Chuck brought in is woeful on talent, hence JC/Walkons taking their place.. 3. Expect this.. If Ezell Reffin can learn what to do... Our WR is Brown, Sampson, Sandifer, Reffin!! With Nichols, King, and Denso getting reps!! |
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Post by monty on Aug 4, 2010 16:04:11 GMT -8
you still didn't answer my question... you simply stated something you've regurgitated 100 times which did not contradict my factually correct story... i will repeat for you: "one day you are saying you wont bring it up unless someone else does and then the next you are justifying bringing it up first because "you know" someone else will. thats called being a hypocrit." this behavior perpetuates the problem. you have to admit that you are now creating the problem and stop blaming other people. just admit it and we can all move on. I did answer it....You just didn't get it. (Am I reading your board name correctly....You are buddies with Monty? No wonder ) Now, for the sake of the thread and the board. I think really like our depth at Wide Receiver. Sampson and Brown are very good, but they aren't the only ones. I do not know this poster, i've never met him, never corresponded with him, have had no contact with him. His name clearly is indicating his hommie is the mascot a la Habel is my hommie. Absolutely no reason to invoke me here. |
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Post by steveaztec on Aug 4, 2010 16:05:52 GMT -8
I did answer it....You just didn't get it. (Am I reading your board name correctly....You are buddies with Monty? No wonder ) Now, for the sake of the thread and the board. I think really like our depth at Wide Receiver. Sampson and Brown are very good, but they aren't the only ones. I do not know this poster, i've never met him, never corresponded with him, have had no contact with him. His name clearly is indicating his hommie is the mascot a la Habel is my hommie. Absolutely no reason to invoke me here. Your butt hurt Monty?  (By the way, the only reason I used that term above is because Monty thought it was funny to use on a couple of occasions when I posted....but remember, he never attacks me....just my position... ) I realized that and deleted that sentence at once, before I read yours.You are getting a little uptight, aren't you?  |
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Post by sancarlosaztec on Aug 4, 2010 16:14:24 GMT -8
Just my .02 here:
1. Backwhenaztec was the first to bring up Chuck in this thread and as Steve said Chuck is on topic
2. Steve I think your comments are totally in line here, but consider this... If you tell a two year old not to touch the hot stove what is the first thing he/she will do? I believe this is why some posters consider your post "baiting".
3. IMO the recruitment of JC OL is based on last years performance and the need for depth on the line.
4. I am concerned too about the absence of Perry Jackson and Jacob Driver
5. How long will it take Abel Perez to beat out Brian Shields? And I wonder if Abel will be kicking KO's even if he isn't the FG kicker?
6. Overused but true... you are always a play away from the 2nd string QB... and another play away from the 3rd string. It would be great to get as many reps as possible for #2 and #3 and some game experience for both. I hope Lindley stays healthy all season and has tons of success.
7. WR & TE: Wow! we have a ton of talent and depth
8. FB: When was the last time you saw us with that kind of depth at FB?
9. DL: Given past injury history and lack of size in our depth I am very concerned. We MUST stay healthy on the DL
10. DB: we are small here too. Damn! I hope they all have the heart of a lion
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Post by montyismyhomie on Aug 4, 2010 16:26:30 GMT -8
monty is correct, my name is in reference to the mascot.
steve i will drop this but please take a different approach to how you bring him up. on topic or not your references to him are always reaching for someone to pile on. notice i didn't even engage you on Long personally, just on how you bring him up.
back on topic though... this is the first time ive looked at an aztec depth chart in a long time and been comfortable with the backups at multiple positions.
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Post by bill456 on Aug 4, 2010 16:32:27 GMT -8
We must remember that this is just what's on paper BEFORE Fall camp opens. There's going to be injuries and jobs lost. The fact that Jackson did not take part in the Spring camp is the mostly likely reason for him not listed on the depth chart. Also, back to the D-line, I know there going to be some kind of a shake up. A D-lineman listed at 225lbs? He's the same size as Able Perez the JC Kicker  |
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Post by steveaztec on Aug 4, 2010 16:50:21 GMT -8
Just my .02 here: 1. Backwhenaztec was the first to bring up Chuck in this thread and as Steve said Chuck is on topic 2. Steve I think your comments are totally in line here, but consider this... If you tell a two year old not to touch the hot stove what is the first thing he/she will do? I believe this is why some posters consider your post "baiting". 3. IMO the recruitment of JC OL is based on last years performance and the need for depth on the line. 4. I am concerned too about the absence of Perry Jackson and Jacob Driver 5. How long will it take Abel Perez to beat out Brian Shields? And I wonder if Abel will be kicking KO's even if he isn't the FG kicker? 6. Overused but true... you are always a play away from the 2nd string QB... and another play away from the 3rd string. It would be great to get as many reps as possible for #2 and #3 and some game experience for both. I hope Lindley stays healthy all season and has tons of success. 7. WR & TE: Wow! we have a ton of talent and depth 8. FB: When was the last time you saw us with that kind of depth at FB? 9. DL: Given past injury history and lack of size in our depth I am very concerned. We MUST stay healthy on the DL 10. DB: we are small here too. Damn! I hope they all have the heart of a lion Taking your numbers 1-10... 1. Yes 2. Yes again, but I have tried what you have suggested many times since these 2 year olds arrived on the board. I also have done exactly what MOD's have asked me to do. I am done pampering these babies. I even took the advise of B5 to take my comments to Monty off the board and to PM to work it out. I tried that and after the second PM.....Monty said ...."Do Not Ever PM Me Again". So much for that effort on my part. 3. Maybe, and if they work out, I am all for it. 4. Surprised and worried too. 5. I'm very anxious to see the kicking game too San Carlos. 6. Man, for sure. I hope Lindley has his best year ever and he can only do that by playing all games. 7. Lookin good. 8. Not with the last 2 staffs for sure. 9. Still not deep, but at least we have some upper class leadership. 10. Mystery positions to me. I'm hoping for the best. |
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Post by backwhenaztec on Aug 4, 2010 16:51:58 GMT -8
Aztec Steve is a Chuck Long homer, that is and never will change despite one of the worst records in SDSU 3 year history, Off-Field cover-ups and problems, Academic issues and low performance on the apr thing, and poor recruiting... So it is pointless to try to argue with him on anything less than that of comparing Chuck Long to Nick Saban!
Back to the thread, by the time its said and done, Bolanos, Gauld ( New recruits), Trask(Craft), and 2 others of a list about 3 guys will start on the O-Line.. Considering 3 recruiting classes of about 13 O-Linemen of Longs, comparaed to 2 years and 5 O-linemen recruits.. to have 3 starters out of a possible 13 belong to previous staffs classes states the truth... PLain and Simple on paper..
QB/WR/TE - Stacked and loaded with talent
RB's - Talent by committee and inexpereince
OL - Infusion of new talent and their adaptation will be key
DEF as Whole - Much improved across the board. Only question mark is who steps up at LB
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Post by steveaztec on Aug 4, 2010 16:53:34 GMT -8
Aztec Steve is a Chuck Long homer, that is and never will change despite one of the worst records in SDSU 3 year history, Off-Field cover-ups and problems, Academic issues and low performance on the apr thing, and poor recruiting... So it is pointless to try to argue with him on anything less than that of comparing Chuck Long to Nick Saban! Back to the thread, by the time its said and done, Bolanos, Gauld ( New recruits), Trask(Craft), and 2 others of a list about 3 guys will start on the O-Line.. Considering 3 recruiting classes of about 13 O-Linemen of Longs, comparaed to 2 years and 5 O-linemen recruits.. to have 3 starters out of a possible 13 belong to previous staffs classes states the truth... PLain and Simple on paper.. QB/WR/TE - Stacked and loaded with talent RB's - Talent by committee and inexpereince OL - Infusion of new talent and their adaptation will be key DEF as Whole - Much improved across the board. Only question mark is who steps up at LB Read my signature. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2010 17:22:22 GMT -8
actually, this is one area where we can thank CL. Academic issues and low performance on the apr thing, and poor recruiting... |
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Post by aztech on Aug 4, 2010 17:23:14 GMT -8
this is exactly what is sooooo frustrating about you steve, you can't even admit that you are just baiting people. your comment was inherently argumentative and you constantly seek to bring up this topic. just because you think someone else will bring it up does not mean that they will. one day you are saying you wont bring it up unless someone else does and then the next you are justifying bringing it up first because "you know" someone else will. thats called being a hypocrit. Montyismyhomie and all others who get annoyed with this idiotic Long bull$#!+. I don't know why you guys even respond? You know where it goes. I only respond to posts that are worthy of a response, meaning the subject of the threads. These hijacks result in multiple pages of drivel. It's bothersome to have to scroll down to read what's pertinent to the thread.  |
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Post by rickdoerr on Aug 4, 2010 17:29:53 GMT -8
I'm looking forward to camp.As long as everyone is guessing, I'm thinking a couple of players to watch will be Deonte Williams, RB, and Nick Tenhaeff, LBer. Wouldn't be surprised if Driver needs another year in the weightroom before he makes his move. Wouldn't be surprised to see one or both of the frosh DTs getting playing time. Still think Draheim will be the starting LT Sept 4 with Rivera at RG. Don't think Gunther will be the starting RT. Did notice Quinones was dropped from the depth chart. Wonder if that has something to do with the work he may or may not have put in this summer.
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Post by zurac315 on Aug 4, 2010 17:38:03 GMT -8
Let's just see who the starters ultimately are and then be glad we have them regardless of which coach "recruited" them and then hope we have a good season regardless of whom the "stars" were recruited by. I'd like a bowl game and don't really care who exactly gets us there.
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Post by steveaztec on Aug 4, 2010 17:38:58 GMT -8
I'm looking forward to camp.As long as everyone is guessing, I'm thinking a couple of players to watch will be Deonte Williams, RB, and Nick Tenhaeff, LBer. Wouldn't be surprised if Driver needs another year in the weightroom before he makes his move. Wouldn't be surprised to see one or both of the frosh DTs getting playing time. Still think Draheim will be the starting LT Sept 4 with Rivera at RG. Don't think Gunther will be the starting RT. Did notice Quinones was dropped from the depth chart. Wonder if that has something to do with the work he may or may not have put in this summer. And Muema at running back. The staff is very excited about him. |
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Post by aztech on Aug 4, 2010 17:51:22 GMT -8
I'm looking forward to camp.As long as everyone is guessing, I'm thinking a couple of players to watch will be Deonte Williams, RB, and Nick Tenhaeff, LBer. Wouldn't be surprised if Driver needs another year in the weightroom before he makes his move. Wouldn't be surprised to see one or both of the frosh DTs getting playing time. Still think Draheim will be the starting LT Sept 4 with Rivera at RG. Don't think Gunther will be the starting RT. Did notice Quinones was dropped from the depth chart. Wonder if that has something to do with the work he may or may not have put in this summer. I wonder if everyone on the depth chart participated in the offseason program. Those who didn't, aren't. |
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Post by backwhenaztec on Aug 4, 2010 18:32:23 GMT -8
Dont count on Muema being a factor this year. Remember that stuff on facebook that stated he got into a fight and broke his eye socket or something.. Those injuries are very hard to get over, like bad concussions, and the fact that he broke his bone doesnt seem like hed be ready at the beginning of camp... Feedback from the workouts during the summer have also suggested that Deonte Williams or Cooper, the JC RB wasnt around during the end of summer workouts and had to go home to tend to personal issues... My guess at RB would be TB: Hillman, Kazee/Garrett FB: Sullivan, Young, Miller..
Wouldnt be surprised if one or both NT did play, 2 of the 3 frosh DE's, Feely at LB.. Dont think anyone in the secondary will play for the simple fact tht Hokes first class contained something like 7 or 8 DB's tht the staff feels good about.
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Post by AztecTom on Aug 4, 2010 18:37:52 GMT -8
Dont count on Muema being a factor this year. Remember that stuff on facebook that stated he got into a fight and broke his eye socket or something.. Those injuries are very hard to get over, like bad concussions, and the fact that he broke his bone doesnt seem like hed be ready at the beginning of camp... Feedback from the workouts during the summer have also suggested that Deonte Williams or Cooper, the JC RB wasnt around during the end of summer workouts and had to go home to tend to personal issues... My guess at RB would be TB: Hillman, Kazee/Garrett FB: Sullivan, Young, Miller.. Wouldnt be surprised if one or both NT did play, 2 of the 3 frosh DE's, Feely at LB.. Dont think anyone in the secondary will play for the simple fact tht Hokes first class contained something like 7 or 8 DB's tht the staff feels good about. We have depth at rb this year and can afford to redshirt Muema. |
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Post by ron on Aug 5, 2010 5:02:36 GMT -8
Dont count on Muema being a factor this year. Remember that stuff on facebook that stated he got into a fight and broke his eye socket or something.. Those injuries are very hard to get over, like bad concussions, and the fact that he broke his bone doesnt seem like hed be ready at the beginning of camp... Feedback from the workouts during the summer have also suggested that Deonte Williams or Cooper, the JC RB wasnt around during the end of summer workouts and had to go home to tend to personal issues... My guess at RB would be TB: Hillman, Kazee/Garrett FB: Sullivan, Young, Miller.. Wouldnt be surprised if one or both NT did play, 2 of the 3 frosh DE's, Feely at LB.. Dont think anyone in the secondary will play for the simple fact tht Hokes first class contained something like 7 or 8 DB's tht the staff feels good about. We have depth at rb this year and can afford to redshirt Muema. As long as the injury bug stays away. |
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