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Post by aztecryan on Aug 27, 2023 12:48:07 GMT -8
Terrible teams with bad rosters and questionable coaching walk into walkoffs. The Nationals had four in their last eight HOME games. Terrible iterations of the Padres, in fact, have gotten to double digit walkoffs. The Padres last season, with virtually the same staff: 12-5 in extra innings, 30-17 in one run games, 12-8 in walkoffs. Melvin didn't forget how to manage. He's one of the best managers in the game, but managerial impact is largely negligible pre-playoffs. The players bear a lot of the responsibilities. But they have been plagued by a mountainous amount of bad luck in batted ball performance, they've been crushed by key injuries and they've underperformed as a result. You make endless excuses when it comes down to the management and coaching failing to fix ANYTHING this year. Utter and complete failure. They've gotten NOTHING right this year. Excuses won't cut it. And this organization will not sniff a World Series Championship as long as Melvin and whoever is really responsible for coaching the hitters is still on this staff. I mean who is it, really? No one has that job title, so is NO ONE responsible? Flaherty? Bernard? Coolbaugh? No one?? Actually, that seems to be an institutional problem with this organization. They have no real, "Hitting Coach," who is ONLY responsible for that. Bernard and Coolbaugh are, "Assistant," Hitting Coaches, and Flaherty doesn't have Hitting Coach in his title at all, so no one takes the full responsibility or blame in this organizational setup. They should ALL go. Bring in a top level hitting coach and a good assistant. Flaherty is a failure. So are Bernard and Coolbaugh. Keeping them will continue these problems. The hitters may share some of the blame, but a Hitting Coach's ONLY job is to improve performance, and these guys have utterly and completely failed in that respect and deserve to be fired. Nobody is making excuses. I'm doing the exact opposite, in reality.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Aug 27, 2023 12:51:40 GMT -8
You make endless excuses when it comes down to the management and coaching failing to fix ANYTHING this year. Utter and complete failure. They've gotten NOTHING right this year. Excuses won't cut it. And this organization will not sniff a World Series Championship as long as Melvin and whoever is really responsible for coaching the hitters is still on this staff. I mean who is it, really? No one has that job title, so is NO ONE responsible? Flaherty? Bernard? Coolbaugh? No one?? Actually, that seems to be an institutional problem with this organization. They have no real, "Hitting Coach," who is ONLY responsible for that. Bernard and Coolbaugh are, "Assistant," Hitting Coaches, and Flaherty doesn't have Hitting Coach in his title at all, so no one takes the full responsibility or blame in this organizational setup. They should ALL go. Bring in a top level hitting coach and a good assistant. Flaherty is a failure. So are Bernard and Coolbaugh. Keeping them will continue these problems. The hitters may share some of the blame, but a Hitting Coach's ONLY job is to improve performance, and these guys have utterly and completely failed in that respect and deserve to be fired. Nobody is making excuses. I'm doing the exact opposite, in reality. You're excusing Melvin and anyone associated with coaching the hitters. You're saying the players are to blame. What is the one thing ALL of the players have in common? Melvin and the coaches. Who have all completely failed to get any kind of improvement out of these supposed all star level hitters.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 27, 2023 12:56:25 GMT -8
Nobody is making excuses. I'm doing the exact opposite, in reality. You're excusing Melvin and anyone associated with coaching the hitters. You're saying the players are to blame. What is the one thing ALL of the players have in common? Melvin and the coaches. Who have all completely failed to get any kind of improvement out of these supposed all star level hitters. Melvin doesn't have full roster autonomy. The players are largely to blame. Their own quotes would tell you that. I literally just said I don't think Flaherty is good. But it's also just not that simple...at all.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Aug 27, 2023 13:00:49 GMT -8
You're excusing Melvin and anyone associated with coaching the hitters. You're saying the players are to blame. What is the one thing ALL of the players have in common? Melvin and the coaches. Who have all completely failed to get any kind of improvement out of these supposed all star level hitters. Melvin doesn't have full roster autonomy. The players are largely to blame. Their own quotes would tell you that. I literally just said I don't think Flaherty is good. But it's also just not that simple...at all. Ummm.. You literally didn't say that at all. You haven't mentioned his name until this comment. You haven't mentioned hitting coaches, either. So, no, you didn't say that. And Flaherty has to go, along with both, "Assistant," Hitting Coaches. They've all utterly and completely failed to make any impovements with this roster. None whatsoever.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 27, 2023 13:05:44 GMT -8
Melvin doesn't have full roster autonomy. The players are largely to blame. Their own quotes would tell you that. I literally just said I don't think Flaherty is good. But it's also just not that simple...at all. Ummm.. You literally didn't say that at all. You haven't mentioned his name until this comment. You haven't mentioned hitting coaches, either. So, no, you didn't say that. And Flaherty has to go, along with both, "Assistant," Hitting Coaches. They've all utterly and completely failed to make any impovements with this roster. None whatsoever. Then you need to read a bit closer. I said "You'll get no argument from that me that Flaherty is a good offensive coordinator, but he's here because of Manny." How many times do we have to go through the firings of the hitting coaches before we realize that surface level thinking doesn't solve the problem?
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Aug 27, 2023 13:05:52 GMT -8
Significant changes need to be made.
Melvin, Flaherty, Bernard, and Coolbaugh should be gone. This is one of the worst seasons ever for a team that was built to win the World Series. It is a colossal failure of historic proportions.
I'd love to see Bogaerts gone, but with his injury problems it looks like we're stuck with him, and that albatross is going to screw this team for years to come. BAD signing. Preller takes the blame for that one.
If we don't contend next year, NL Championshiop game at least, then Preller has to go, too. He put together this absurdly expensive roster, and it looks like this isn't really a team - just a collection of players out to hit the long ball every time at bad. Trying to pad their own individual stats (and failing, more often than not).
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 27, 2023 13:07:24 GMT -8
Significant changes need to be made. Melvin, Flaherty, Bernard, and Coolbaugh should be gone. This is one of the worst seasons ever for a team that was built to win the World Series. It is a colossal failure of historic proportions. I'd love to see Bogaerts gone, but with his injury problems it looks like we're stuck with him, and that albatross is going to screw this team for years to come. BAD signing. Preller takes the blame for that one. If we don't contend next year, NL Championshiop game at least, then Preller has to go, too. He put together this absurdly expensive roster, and it looks like this isn't really a team - just a collection of players out to hit the long ball every time at bad. Trying to pad their own individual stats (and failing, more often than not). This is as bad as your preseason rants about payroll and everything else. Just take a breath and disconnect.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Aug 27, 2023 13:08:36 GMT -8
Ummm.. You literally didn't say that at all. You haven't mentioned his name until this comment. You haven't mentioned hitting coaches, either. So, no, you didn't say that. And Flaherty has to go, along with both, "Assistant," Hitting Coaches. They've all utterly and completely failed to make any impovements with this roster. None whatsoever. Then you need to read a bit closer. I said "You'll get no argument from that me that Flaherty is a good offensive coordinator, but he's here because of Manny." How many times do we have to go through the firings of the hitting coaches before we realize that surface level thinking doesn't solve the problem? Hirigng GOOD COACHES solves the problem. Bad coaches, like the ones we've got, will never get the job done, no matter how much time you give them. GOOD coaches will make an impact right away. Oh, and saying that you don't think Flaherty is a good coach isn't the same thing as saying he's a bad coach. It's a real middling, non committal, non stance statement.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 27, 2023 13:09:43 GMT -8
Then you need to read a bit closer. I said "You'll get no argument from that me that Flaherty is a good offensive coordinator, but he's here because of Manny." How many times do we have to go through the firings of the hitting coaches before we realize that surface level thinking doesn't solve the problem? Hirigng GOOD COACHES solves the problem. Bad coaches, like the ones we've got, will never get the job done, no matter how much time you give them. GOOD coaches will make an impact right away. Oh, and saying that you don't think Flaherty is a good coach isn't the same thing as saying he's a bad coach. It's a real middling, non committal, non stance statement. Was Melvin a bad coach last year?
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Aug 27, 2023 13:10:30 GMT -8
Significant changes need to be made. Melvin, Flaherty, Bernard, and Coolbaugh should be gone. This is one of the worst seasons ever for a team that was built to win the World Series. It is a colossal failure of historic proportions. I'd love to see Bogaerts gone, but with his injury problems it looks like we're stuck with him, and that albatross is going to screw this team for years to come. BAD signing. Preller takes the blame for that one. If we don't contend next year, NL Championshiop game at least, then Preller has to go, too. He put together this absurdly expensive roster, and it looks like this isn't really a team - just a collection of players out to hit the long ball every time at bad. Trying to pad their own individual stats (and failing, more often than not). This is as bad as your preseason rants about payroll and everything else. Just take a breath and disconnect. No, it's the same as me going after Chuck Long halfway through his first season and wanting him fired. Sometimes coaches are so bad that you can see that they're in over their heads and will never succeed. Melvin was never a good fit for this organization (square peg, round hole). The hitting coaches are pathetic. Time to get coaches and a manager who can make a positive difference.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Aug 27, 2023 13:11:28 GMT -8
Hirigng GOOD COACHES solves the problem. Bad coaches, like the ones we've got, will never get the job done, no matter how much time you give them. GOOD coaches will make an impact right away. Oh, and saying that you don't think Flaherty is a good coach isn't the same thing as saying he's a bad coach. It's a real middling, non committal, non stance statement. Was Melvin a bad coach last year? He was mediocre. We got worked in the NLCS, and he poured gasoline on the fire. In the regular season he was utterly mediocre. As I said, square peg, round hole, bad fit.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 27, 2023 13:14:00 GMT -8
Was Melvin a bad coach last year? He was mediocre. We got worked in the NLCS, and he poured gasoline on the fire. In the regular season he was utterly mediocre. As I said, square peg, round hole, bad fit. From the other thread: Actual problems: Serious dissention between the front office and the managerial staff. Melvin has barred anyone from the front office from going into the clubhouse. A lack of cohesion and push/pull between factions completely kills any kind of clubhouse camaraderie and organizational bond. If the important people aren't on the same page, that trickles down to the product you see on the field and the decisions that are made behind the scenes, as well. Things like Carpenter not getting a plate appearance in three weeks, bullpen utilization, roster construction, etc. Manny Machado. Manny was extended by Peter Seidler, above and beyond what was expected, after Bogaerts was brought in by Preller as a hedge against Manny leaving. Manny is now in year two of a serious hard-hit rate decline and the injuries/wear and tear are taking their toll on his body. Manny and Bogaerts have clashed throughout the season and don't have a great working relationship, which makes things difficult again from a clubhouse culture standpoint, similar to the strife Fernando and Manny had (briefly) in 2021. Analytics and Ryan Flaherty. The Padres, prior to AJ Preller, had no analytics department at all to speak of. They've beefed up in the area, but their individual processes lag behind other progressive organizations. They don't do a great job on the individual level of identifying weaknesses and relaying that information to players so improvements can be made. A couple of examples: Ryan Weathers, who was rushed to the big leagues even though the team knew he wasn't ready developmentally and Luis Garcia, who hasn't been using his best pitch nearly enough in two years. This has a toll on advanced scouting and game planning, which is Flaherty's responsibility in the wake of Preston Mattingly leaving. It's why the team looks so unprepared facing rookie starters and guys without long MLB track records. Individualism and player ego. Whether it's Manny, Fernando or anyone else, this team is an individual based collection of stars without a real identity. They show up with the expectation that just showing up is enough. Circles back a little to the cultural and philosophical importance of messaging, trust and sacrifice that's been a missing ingredient all season. The leadership void and the willingness to set aside the notion of "I have to get mine" has been a major problem, despite having a ton of veterans in the clubhouse. Stubbornness by the baseball operations department and ownership. Due to Seidler's massive investment into the roster and wanting to deliver a championship to San Diego, they won't pull the rip cord on this season to better prepare for 2024. There's clear roster holes, a bloated payroll with guaranteed money to an aging group of players and a (thus far) unwillingness to see prospects sink or swim at the MLB level, which hinders player development and affects minor league coordination. They have a burdensome debt load by some accounts and are pretty leveraged at this point to try and be "championship or bust" in 2024, instead of focusing on long-term sustainability through the minor league system. Upward mobility in the front office and the glass ceiling. In the last handful of years, the Padres have lost good people because they just weren't willing to meet contract offers that were made elsewhere. Ben Sestanovich was a prime example. Highly regarded, well thought of person internally. Atlanta offered him a promotion to assistant GM and the Padres weren't willing to match the dollars. Atlanta immediately won a World Series afterwards. Preston Mattingly was another one and his loss still stings because Flaherty is now the manager-in-waiting after leading one of the most underperforming offenses in history.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Aug 27, 2023 13:22:58 GMT -8
He was mediocre. We got worked in the NLCS, and he poured gasoline on the fire. In the regular season he was utterly mediocre. As I said, square peg, round hole, bad fit. From the other thread: Actual problems: Serious dissention between the front office and the managerial staff. Melvin has barred anyone from the front office from going into the clubhouse. A lack of cohesion and push/pull between factions completely kills any kind of clubhouse camaraderie and organizational bond. If the important people aren't on the same page, that trickles down to the product you see on the field and the decisions that are made behind the scenes, as well. Things like Carpenter not getting a plate appearance in three weeks, bullpen utilization, roster construction, etc. Manny Machado. Manny was extended by Peter Seidler, above and beyond what was expected, after Bogaerts was brought in by Preller as a hedge against Manny leaving. Manny is now in year two of a serious hard-hit rate decline and the injuries/wear and tear are taking their toll on his body. Manny and Bogaerts have clashed throughout the season and don't have a great working relationship, which makes things difficult again from a clubhouse culture standpoint, similar to the strife Fernando and Manny had (briefly) in 2021. Analytics and Ryan Flaherty. The Padres, prior to AJ Preller, had no analytics department at all to speak of. They've beefed up in the area, but their individual processes lag behind other progressive organizations. They don't do a great job on the individual level of identifying weaknesses and relaying that information to players so improvements can be made. A couple of examples: Ryan Weathers, who was rushed to the big leagues even though the team knew he wasn't ready developmentally and Luis Garcia, who hasn't been using his best pitch nearly enough in two years. This has a toll on advanced scouting and game planning, which is Flaherty's responsibility in the wake of Preston Mattingly leaving. It's why the team looks so unprepared facing rookie starters and guys without long MLB track records. Individualism and player ego. Whether it's Manny, Fernando or anyone else, this team is an individual based collection of stars without a real identity. They show up with the expectation that just showing up is enough. Circles back a little to the cultural and philosophical importance of messaging, trust and sacrifice that's been a missing ingredient all season. The leadership void and the willingness to set aside the notion of "I have to get mine" has been a major problem, despite having a ton of veterans in the clubhouse. Stubbornness by the baseball operations department and ownership. Due to Seidler's massive investment into the roster and wanting to deliver a championship to San Diego, they won't pull the rip cord on this season to better prepare for 2024. There's clear roster holes, a bloated payroll with guaranteed money to an aging group of players and a (thus far) unwillingness to see prospects sink or swim at the MLB level, which hinders player development and affects minor league coordination. They have a burdensome debt load by some accounts and are pretty leveraged at this point to try and be "championship or bust" in 2024, instead of focusing on long-term sustainability through the minor league system. Upward mobility in the front office and the glass ceiling. In the last handful of years, the Padres have lost good people because they just weren't willing to meet contract offers that were made elsewhere. Ben Sestanovich was a prime example. Highly regarded, well thought of person internally. Atlanta offered him a promotion to assistant GM and the Padres weren't willing to match the dollars. Atlanta immediately won a World Series afterwards. Preston Mattingly was another one and his loss still stings because Flaherty is now the manager-in-waiting after leading one of the most underperforming offenses in history. So... Sounds to me like there are a lot of problems. Many of which can be laid at the feet of the Manager and coaches. Melvin is no leader. He has completely failed to build any type of team bond among the players. He hasn't been able to do anything to help the players work as a team, nor to identify ways to make them more effective. And Preller - he has screwed up this situation royally. I wanted him fired years ago. I still do. He spent a lot of money, but he sure didn't spend it wisely. The fact that he knew that Bogaerts had an injury/physical issue and still signed him to a boatload of money that is going to cripple the team's ability to contend in the future is outrageous. He gambled and lost, only now it's going to hurt the team for the next several years. We're not getting that World Series Chmpionship in our lifetimes. Not going to happen. This team is going to fall apart, financially, in about 3 years. We don't have effective coaches, we don't have an effective Manager, we have a foolish General Manager, and an owner who is enamored with the way his General Manager gets big name talent. And a bunch of players who are not a team, just a collection of individuals who wear the same uniforms. Yeah, clean house. This is a disaster. I was foolish to ever buy into this organization. But I let myself get caught up on the excitement. My bad.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 27, 2023 13:27:48 GMT -8
From the other thread: Actual problems: Serious dissention between the front office and the managerial staff. Melvin has barred anyone from the front office from going into the clubhouse. A lack of cohesion and push/pull between factions completely kills any kind of clubhouse camaraderie and organizational bond. If the important people aren't on the same page, that trickles down to the product you see on the field and the decisions that are made behind the scenes, as well. Things like Carpenter not getting a plate appearance in three weeks, bullpen utilization, roster construction, etc. Manny Machado. Manny was extended by Peter Seidler, above and beyond what was expected, after Bogaerts was brought in by Preller as a hedge against Manny leaving. Manny is now in year two of a serious hard-hit rate decline and the injuries/wear and tear are taking their toll on his body. Manny and Bogaerts have clashed throughout the season and don't have a great working relationship, which makes things difficult again from a clubhouse culture standpoint, similar to the strife Fernando and Manny had (briefly) in 2021. Analytics and Ryan Flaherty. The Padres, prior to AJ Preller, had no analytics department at all to speak of. They've beefed up in the area, but their individual processes lag behind other progressive organizations. They don't do a great job on the individual level of identifying weaknesses and relaying that information to players so improvements can be made. A couple of examples: Ryan Weathers, who was rushed to the big leagues even though the team knew he wasn't ready developmentally and Luis Garcia, who hasn't been using his best pitch nearly enough in two years. This has a toll on advanced scouting and game planning, which is Flaherty's responsibility in the wake of Preston Mattingly leaving. It's why the team looks so unprepared facing rookie starters and guys without long MLB track records. Individualism and player ego. Whether it's Manny, Fernando or anyone else, this team is an individual based collection of stars without a real identity. They show up with the expectation that just showing up is enough. Circles back a little to the cultural and philosophical importance of messaging, trust and sacrifice that's been a missing ingredient all season. The leadership void and the willingness to set aside the notion of "I have to get mine" has been a major problem, despite having a ton of veterans in the clubhouse. Stubbornness by the baseball operations department and ownership. Due to Seidler's massive investment into the roster and wanting to deliver a championship to San Diego, they won't pull the rip cord on this season to better prepare for 2024. There's clear roster holes, a bloated payroll with guaranteed money to an aging group of players and a (thus far) unwillingness to see prospects sink or swim at the MLB level, which hinders player development and affects minor league coordination. They have a burdensome debt load by some accounts and are pretty leveraged at this point to try and be "championship or bust" in 2024, instead of focusing on long-term sustainability through the minor league system. Upward mobility in the front office and the glass ceiling. In the last handful of years, the Padres have lost good people because they just weren't willing to meet contract offers that were made elsewhere. Ben Sestanovich was a prime example. Highly regarded, well thought of person internally. Atlanta offered him a promotion to assistant GM and the Padres weren't willing to match the dollars. Atlanta immediately won a World Series afterwards. Preston Mattingly was another one and his loss still stings because Flaherty is now the manager-in-waiting after leading one of the most underperforming offenses in history. So... Sounds to me like there are a lot of problems. Many of which can be laid at the feet of the Manager and coaches. Melvin is no leader. He has completely failed to build any type of team bond among the players. He hasn't been able to do anything to help the players work as a team, nor to identify ways to make them more effective. And Preller - he has screwed up this situation royally. I wanted him fired years ago. I still do. He spent a lot of money, but he sure didn't spend it wisely. The fact that he knew that Bogaerts had an injury/physical issue and still signed him to a boatload of money that is going to cripple the team's ability to contend in the future is outrageous. He gambled and lost, only now it's going to hurt the team for the next several years. We're not getting that World Series Chmpionship in our lifetimes. Not going to happen. This team is going to fall apart, financially, in about 3 years. We don't have effective coaches, we don't have an effective Manager, we have a foolish General Manager, and an owner who is enamored with the way his General Manager gets big name talent. And a bunch of players who are not a team, just a collection of individuals who wear the same uniforms. Yeah, clean house. This is a disaster. I was foolish to ever buy into this organization. But I let myself get caught up on the excitement. My bad. Imagine reading that and coming away with blaming one of the most respected managers in baseball. You're applying cliches like this is Little League. It's not.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Aug 27, 2023 13:38:53 GMT -8
So... Sounds to me like there are a lot of problems. Many of which can be laid at the feet of the Manager and coaches. Melvin is no leader. He has completely failed to build any type of team bond among the players. He hasn't been able to do anything to help the players work as a team, nor to identify ways to make them more effective. And Preller - he has screwed up this situation royally. I wanted him fired years ago. I still do. He spent a lot of money, but he sure didn't spend it wisely. The fact that he knew that Bogaerts had an injury/physical issue and still signed him to a boatload of money that is going to cripple the team's ability to contend in the future is outrageous. He gambled and lost, only now it's going to hurt the team for the next several years. We're not getting that World Series Chmpionship in our lifetimes. Not going to happen. This team is going to fall apart, financially, in about 3 years. We don't have effective coaches, we don't have an effective Manager, we have a foolish General Manager, and an owner who is enamored with the way his General Manager gets big name talent. And a bunch of players who are not a team, just a collection of individuals who wear the same uniforms. Yeah, clean house. This is a disaster. I was foolish to ever buy into this organization. But I let myself get caught up on the excitement. My bad. Imagine reading that and coming away with blaming one of the most respected managers in baseball. You're applying cliches like this is Little League. It's not. What has Melvin done well here. Nothing. He did things well in the past when he was a good fit with the organization. He's a bad fit here.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 27, 2023 13:42:45 GMT -8
Imagine reading that and coming away with blaming one of the most respected managers in baseball. You're applying cliches like this is Little League. It's not. What has Melvin done well here. Nothing. He did things well in the past when he was a good fit with the organization. He's a bad fit here. He literally managed the team to the NLCS last season. You mention the word for over and over again...but if he's not succeeding here, who is?
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Aug 27, 2023 13:49:34 GMT -8
What has Melvin done well here. Nothing. He did things well in the past when he was a good fit with the organization. He's a bad fit here. He literally managed the team to the NLCS last season. You mention the word for over and over again...but if he's not succeeding here, who is? So what do you propose? Keeping hitting coaches that aren't getting the job done? Keeping a manager who can't manage his players? Keeping a GM who has set this franchise up for financial armageddon in about 3 or 4 years? The status quo isn't going to make us contenders. Next year will be a .500 season if we keep what we have and make no significant changes. And that's assuming the hitters improve enough to take us from below .500 to break even.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 27, 2023 14:33:53 GMT -8
He literally managed the team to the NLCS last season. You mention the word for over and over again...but if he's not succeeding here, who is? So what do you propose? Keeping hitting coaches that aren't getting the job done? Keeping a manager who can't manage his players? Keeping a GM who has set this franchise up for financial armageddon in about 3 or 4 years? The status quo isn't going to make us contenders. Next year will be a .500 season if we keep what we have and make no significant changes. And that's assuming the hitters improve enough to take us from below .500 to break even. I propose reading what I wrote in the actual problems post and using critical thinking.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Aug 27, 2023 15:15:04 GMT -8
So what do you propose? Keeping hitting coaches that aren't getting the job done? Keeping a manager who can't manage his players? Keeping a GM who has set this franchise up for financial armageddon in about 3 or 4 years? The status quo isn't going to make us contenders. Next year will be a .500 season if we keep what we have and make no significant changes. And that's assuming the hitters improve enough to take us from below .500 to break even. I propose reading what I wrote in the actual problems post and using critical thinking. You identified in detail what you believe the problems to be, but didn't give what you thought the solutions would be.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 27, 2023 15:36:57 GMT -8
I propose reading what I wrote in the actual problems post and using critical thinking. You identified in detail what you believe the problems to be, but didn't give what you thought the solutions would be. Because it really doesn't matter what I think. I just know Melvin is not the problem, based on everyone I've talked to. He's going to be the scapegoat, though.
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