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Jul 28, 2023 17:23:51 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 28, 2023 17:23:51 GMT -8
Rational people would see what he's doing now, the trajectory he's on and realize he's going to debut as a teenager, which only one catcher in the last 30 years has done. But I understand the approach. Yeah he definitely could debut as a teenager. But John has a valid point, he may reach AA or AAA (or the majors) and have a setback. Anything is possible, the kid is raking in low level minor league ball and this is a small sample size... that's all anyone is saying. Everyone hopes that he is the next Rodriguez. Okay.
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Jul 28, 2023 20:15:09 GMT -8
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 28, 2023 20:15:09 GMT -8
Rational people would see what he's doing now, the trajectory he's on and realize he's going to debut as a teenager, which only one catcher in the last 30 years has done. But I understand the approach. Yeah he definitely could debut as a teenager. But John has a valid point, he may reach AA or AAA (or the majors) and have a setback. Anything is possible, the kid is raking in low level minor league ball and this is a small sample size... that's all anyone is saying. Everyone hopes that he is the next Rodriguez. Bingo. Yes, pretty simple. I want to see if he can do it at a higher level, and at the same time, I'm excited for his potential.
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Salas
Jul 28, 2023 20:22:02 GMT -8
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 28, 2023 20:22:02 GMT -8
I think it's the mindset of a rational individual, period. There's nothing wrong with you pointing out how great he's doing, and being very excited about it, but I guarantee you every coach and people in the business are also waiting to see what he can do against upper level pitching on a consistent basis. That's all I'm saying. Nothing to do with being a "Padres Fan." Rational people would see what he's doing now, the trajectory he's on and realize he's going to debut as a teenager, which only one catcher in the last 30 years has done. But I understand the approach. Well, I guess I'm rational then, since I can see his trajectory, obviously, and what he's doing now. I get it that you don't want to say anything in the slightest to take away from what he's doing now, but rational people will understand that he's got more to prove at higher levels, and rational people will also notice how well he's performed at the moment, and say that he's got a really good chance to become something special. Rational people will also not say that he's the next superstar catcher, quite yet.
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Salas
Jul 28, 2023 21:03:19 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 28, 2023 21:03:19 GMT -8
Rational people would see what he's doing now, the trajectory he's on and realize he's going to debut as a teenager, which only one catcher in the last 30 years has done. But I understand the approach. Well, I guess I'm rational then, since I can see his trajectory, obviously, and what he's doing now. I get it that you don't want to say anything in the slightest to take away from what he's doing now, but rational people will understand that he's got more to prove at higher levels, and rational people will also notice how well he's performed at the moment, and say that he's got a really good chance to become something special. Rational people will also not say that he's the next superstar catcher, quite yet. I feel very good about it, personally.
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Jul 28, 2023 21:07:38 GMT -8
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 28, 2023 21:07:38 GMT -8
Well, I guess I'm rational then, since I can see his trajectory, obviously, and what he's doing now. I get it that you don't want to say anything in the slightest to take away from what he's doing now, but rational people will understand that he's got more to prove at higher levels, and rational people will also notice how well he's performed at the moment, and say that he's got a really good chance to become something special. Rational people will also not say that he's the next superstar catcher, quite yet. I feel very good about it, personally. And he's given all of us a good reason to be optimistic about it.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 29, 2023 20:17:28 GMT -8
Homer #9 tonight, off big league rehabbing reliever Zach Jackson.
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Salas
Jul 30, 2023 19:08:07 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 30, 2023 19:08:07 GMT -8
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Aug 3, 2023 23:20:34 GMT -8
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Post by sdsuball on Aug 3, 2023 23:20:34 GMT -8
His July stat line: .366/.416/.720 with seven homers, two triples and 21 RBIs... A 1.136 OPS...
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Aug 5, 2023 10:23:49 GMT -8
Post by junior on Aug 5, 2023 10:23:49 GMT -8
Won California League Player of the Month Award for July… recognition is piling up as fast as his extra base hits.
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Aug 8, 2023 17:48:33 GMT -8
Post by aardvark on Aug 8, 2023 17:48:33 GMT -8
Now 1 for his last 20, and gets promoted to Ft Wayne.
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Aug 8, 2023 18:40:22 GMT -8
Post by junior on Aug 8, 2023 18:40:22 GMT -8
Now 1 for his last 20, and gets promoted to Ft Wayne. Achievement unlocked…
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Salas
Aug 9, 2023 10:15:03 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 9, 2023 10:15:03 GMT -8
MLB Pipeline podcast (prior to his promotion) said he might have four 60+ tools in his arsenal. Very, very rare, especially for a catcher. He's also the biggest riser in their new top 100, which goes live tomorrow night.
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Aug 9, 2023 10:53:32 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 9, 2023 10:53:32 GMT -8
MLB Pipeline podcast (prior to his promotion) said he might have four 60+ tools in his arsenal. Very, very rare, especially for a catcher. He's also the biggest riser in their new top 100, which goes live tomorrow night. Another interesting podcast tidbit: In trade talks, one unidentified club (relayed through the Padres to Callis) said they viewed Salas as the most valuable asset in all of baseball.
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Aug 10, 2023 13:26:37 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 10, 2023 13:26:37 GMT -8
#6 on the Baseball America newly updated Top 100.
One of the highest rankings (if not the highest) for a 17 year old in the history of BA.
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Salas
Aug 16, 2023 7:03:51 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 16, 2023 7:03:51 GMT -8
9. Ethan Salas, C, San Diego Padres Age: 17 Level: High-A
"When I got Salas' advanced data a few weeks ago, I was shocked at how good it was. I adjust it for age (which obviously helps the youngest guy on the list -- Salas turned 17 in June), and when you normalize his in-zone contact, chase rates, 90th percentile exit velos, ability to lift and hit the ball hard at the same time, etc. for those factors, you could make the case that he's the best prospect in baseball.
He's not right now, because it would be a little silly to believe his development will follow the exact linear progression that this age adjustment makes. Salas' combination of physical tools, soft skills (pitch selection, defensive instincts), age and performance is almost unprecedented; he can't just keep improving at this pace with no hiccups, or he'd be the best athlete we've ever seen. Even the most precocious prospect in recent memory, Bryce Harper, hadn't yet started his draft spring at this exact age; we didn't even know yet that Harper was going to demolish junior college pitching in his age-17 spring.
On paper, there are no weaknesses. Salas is bilingual with above-average defensive tools and the intangibles to match. He's basically above average at every offensive thing you can measure and may end up being plus at all of them. At age 16 and 17, he hit 21% better than league average at Low-A and has since been promoted. He'd be the No. 1 pick in the 2024 draft -- where he'd be the age of the prep prospects -- by a mile. Some scouts think he would've been worthy of the top pick in the historic 2023 draft, and I've obviously ranked him to imply that's a legitimate point to consider. In a lot of ways, Salas' early pro career is going the way many thought Jasson Dominguez's would.
To this end, I pitched the idea of ranking Salas second on this list to an executive, and he basically said the analytical models would support that idea. He doesn't sit there because he's played about 50 competitive pro games plus a handful of big league spring training games. He hasn't failed yet, and young catchers almost never improve linearly. Experience in evaluating tells everyone to pump the brakes a bit here and let things develop. But make no mistake, Salas' résumé so far is among the best, not just on this list but in the past few decades."
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Post by sdsuball on Aug 16, 2023 9:52:28 GMT -8
9. Ethan Salas, C, San Diego Padres Age: 17 Level: High-A "When I got Salas' advanced data a few weeks ago, I was shocked at how good it was. I adjust it for age (which obviously helps the youngest guy on the list -- Salas turned 17 in June), and when you normalize his in-zone contact, chase rates, 90th percentile exit velos, ability to lift and hit the ball hard at the same time, etc. for those factors, you could make the case that he's the best prospect in baseball. He's not right now, because it would be a little silly to believe his development will follow the exact linear progression that this age adjustment makes. Salas' combination of physical tools, soft skills (pitch selection, defensive instincts), age and performance is almost unprecedented; he can't just keep improving at this pace with no hiccups, or he'd be the best athlete we've ever seen. Even the most precocious prospect in recent memory, Bryce Harper, hadn't yet started his draft spring at this exact age; we didn't even know yet that Harper was going to demolish junior college pitching in his age-17 spring. On paper, there are no weaknesses. Salas is bilingual with above-average defensive tools and the intangibles to match. He's basically above average at every offensive thing you can measure and may end up being plus at all of them. At age 16 and 17, he hit 21% better than league average at Low-A and has since been promoted. He'd be the No. 1 pick in the 2024 draft -- where he'd be the age of the prep prospects -- by a mile. Some scouts think he would've been worthy of the top pick in the historic 2023 draft, and I've obviously ranked him to imply that's a legitimate point to consider. In a lot of ways, Salas' early pro career is going the way many thought Jasson Dominguez's would. To this end, I pitched the idea of ranking Salas second on this list to an executive, and he basically said the analytical models would support that idea. He doesn't sit there because he's played about 50 competitive pro games plus a handful of big league spring training games. He hasn't failed yet, and young catchers almost never improve linearly. Experience in evaluating tells everyone to pump the brakes a bit here and let things develop. But make no mistake, Salas' résumé so far is among the best, not just on this list but in the past few decades." He's an All Star if what he has showed thus far holds up as he moves up...
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Aug 16, 2023 9:57:26 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 16, 2023 9:57:26 GMT -8
9. Ethan Salas, C, San Diego Padres Age: 17 Level: High-A "When I got Salas' advanced data a few weeks ago, I was shocked at how good it was. I adjust it for age (which obviously helps the youngest guy on the list -- Salas turned 17 in June), and when you normalize his in-zone contact, chase rates, 90th percentile exit velos, ability to lift and hit the ball hard at the same time, etc. for those factors, you could make the case that he's the best prospect in baseball. He's not right now, because it would be a little silly to believe his development will follow the exact linear progression that this age adjustment makes. Salas' combination of physical tools, soft skills (pitch selection, defensive instincts), age and performance is almost unprecedented; he can't just keep improving at this pace with no hiccups, or he'd be the best athlete we've ever seen. Even the most precocious prospect in recent memory, Bryce Harper, hadn't yet started his draft spring at this exact age; we didn't even know yet that Harper was going to demolish junior college pitching in his age-17 spring. On paper, there are no weaknesses. Salas is bilingual with above-average defensive tools and the intangibles to match. He's basically above average at every offensive thing you can measure and may end up being plus at all of them. At age 16 and 17, he hit 21% better than league average at Low-A and has since been promoted. He'd be the No. 1 pick in the 2024 draft -- where he'd be the age of the prep prospects -- by a mile. Some scouts think he would've been worthy of the top pick in the historic 2023 draft, and I've obviously ranked him to imply that's a legitimate point to consider. In a lot of ways, Salas' early pro career is going the way many thought Jasson Dominguez's would. To this end, I pitched the idea of ranking Salas second on this list to an executive, and he basically said the analytical models would support that idea. He doesn't sit there because he's played about 50 competitive pro games plus a handful of big league spring training games. He hasn't failed yet, and young catchers almost never improve linearly. Experience in evaluating tells everyone to pump the brakes a bit here and let things develop. But make no mistake, Salas' résumé so far is among the best, not just on this list but in the past few decades." He's an All Star if what he has showed thus far holds up as he moves up... That's light.
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Salas
Aug 16, 2023 13:34:07 GMT -8
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 16, 2023 13:34:07 GMT -8
9. Ethan Salas, C, San Diego Padres Age: 17 Level: High-A "When I got Salas' advanced data a few weeks ago, I was shocked at how good it was. I adjust it for age (which obviously helps the youngest guy on the list -- Salas turned 17 in June), and when you normalize his in-zone contact, chase rates, 90th percentile exit velos, ability to lift and hit the ball hard at the same time, etc. for those factors, you could make the case that he's the best prospect in baseball. He's not right now, because it would be a little silly to believe his development will follow the exact linear progression that this age adjustment makes. Salas' combination of physical tools, soft skills (pitch selection, defensive instincts), age and performance is almost unprecedented; he can't just keep improving at this pace with no hiccups, or he'd be the best athlete we've ever seen. Even the most precocious prospect in recent memory, Bryce Harper, hadn't yet started his draft spring at this exact age; we didn't even know yet that Harper was going to demolish junior college pitching in his age-17 spring. On paper, there are no weaknesses. Salas is bilingual with above-average defensive tools and the intangibles to match. He's basically above average at every offensive thing you can measure and may end up being plus at all of them. At age 16 and 17, he hit 21% better than league average at Low-A and has since been promoted. He'd be the No. 1 pick in the 2024 draft -- where he'd be the age of the prep prospects -- by a mile. Some scouts think he would've been worthy of the top pick in the historic 2023 draft, and I've obviously ranked him to imply that's a legitimate point to consider. In a lot of ways, Salas' early pro career is going the way many thought Jasson Dominguez's would. To this end, I pitched the idea of ranking Salas second on this list to an executive, and he basically said the analytical models would support that idea. He doesn't sit there because he's played about 50 competitive pro games plus a handful of big league spring training games. He hasn't failed yet, and young catchers almost never improve linearly. Experience in evaluating tells everyone to pump the brakes a bit here and let things develop. But make no mistake, Salas' résumé so far is among the best, not just on this list but in the past few decades." He's an All Star if what he has showed thus far holds up as he moves up... I agree with you. That "potential" word can let you down in the future.
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Post by aardvark on Aug 18, 2023 10:50:28 GMT -8
Salas is currently in a 6-49 slump (5-29 in FtW) between his last days at LE and his first games in Fort Wayne.
Curious to see how long it takes for him to adjust to the better pitching in the Midwest League, and continue his development.
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Aug 18, 2023 11:14:02 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 18, 2023 11:14:02 GMT -8
Salas is currently in a 6-49 slump (5-29 in FtW) between his last days at LE and his first games in Fort Wayne. Curious to see how long it takes for him to adjust to the better pitching in the Midwest League, and continue his development. This is a part of that development, thankfully.
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