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Post by aztecmusician on Aug 6, 2022 23:47:02 GMT -8
The Franimal has been cut loose by the Indians errrr Guardians.
Maybe a Padres reclamation project. He is hitting a paltry .213, which is actually 20 points higher than Grisham.
Pull the trigger! Bring back the Franimal!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2022 7:20:30 GMT -8
He’s just lost right now. I think he needs to clear his head and work in private with a good hitting coach, not jump back into games.
His chase rate is up significantly from his career norms, and he’s surprisingly not getting to fastballs. It’s alarming.
I certainly wish him well.
“He wasn’t getting to the fastball,” manager Terry Francona said, “and it seemed like the hanging breaking ball, he was maybe hitting for a single. And there was an occasional home run, but he just wasn’t getting the pitches he used to.”
So, when he does make contact, he makes solid contact. It’s just … he didn’t make enough contact.
• Reyes vs. breaking balls in 2021: .219 average, .521 slugging percentage, 43.6% whiff rate
• Reyes vs. breaking balls in 2022: .162 average, .242 slugging percentage, 55.1% whiff rate
His chase rate increased, but his contact rate when chasing dropped drastically.
• 2021 chase rate: 25.8 percent
• 2022 chase rate: 29.4 percent
• 2021 chase contact rate: 49.3 percent
• 2022 chase contact rate: 35.7 percen
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Post by aardvark on Aug 7, 2022 7:34:45 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2022 8:05:57 GMT -8
He also was out of shape when he arrived at camp, and seemed to rankle members of the front office.
From The Athletics Zack Meisel:
——-But when Reyes arrived at spring training once the league’s lockout ceased, he revealed he hadn’t faced any live pitching, and members of the organization thought he was out of shape. Six months earlier, on that afternoon before the season finale in Texas, Reyes said this:
“Going into the offseason, I want to work and come back like I did in 2020 spring training. You know, have my body a little bit more in shape. I want to prepare myself to play 162 games.”
It’s easy to highlight certain criticisms — weight gain, a lack of focus on his craft — when a player’s production craters. But Reyes’ approach to this season seems to have worn on the organization’s chief decision-makers.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Aug 7, 2022 9:07:01 GMT -8
Sounds like someone who could be rehabilitated into a productive player.
I'm assuming he would be pretty cheap, so maybe give him a shot. Have him work extensively with a hitting coach.
Couldn't be worse than Grisham.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 7, 2022 9:21:17 GMT -8
The Franimal has been cut loose by the Indians errrr Guardians. Maybe a Padres reclamation project. He is hitting a paltry .213, which is actually 20 points higher than Grisham. Pull the trigger! Bring back the Franimal! To play where? |
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 7, 2022 9:21:41 GMT -8
Sounds like someone who could be rehabilitated into a productive player. I'm assuming he would be pretty cheap, so maybe give him a shot. Have him work extensively with a hitting coach. Couldn't be worse than Grisham. He absolutely is far worse than Grisham. |
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 7, 2022 10:02:26 GMT -8
Sounds like someone who could be rehabilitated into a productive player. I'm assuming he would be pretty cheap, so maybe give him a shot. Have him work extensively with a hitting coach. Couldn't be worse than Grisham. He absolutely is far worse than Grisham. Two completely different players, as well. |
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 7, 2022 10:19:07 GMT -8
He absolutely is far worse than Grisham. Two completely different players, as well. One offers zero defensive value and a bunch of strikeouts. The other doesn't. Team moved on for a reason. |
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 7, 2022 10:23:01 GMT -8
Two completely different players, as well. One offers zero defensive value and a bunch of strikeouts. The other doesn't. Team moved on for a reason. That's what I'm alluding to, although we certainly could do MUCH better at centerfield, obviously, at the moment. No thank you to Franimal. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2022 12:03:58 GMT -8
Two completely different players, as well. One offers zero defensive value and a bunch of strikeouts. The other doesn't. Team moved on for a reason. Grisham doesn’t provide a bunch of strikeouts? He’s got the 17th most whiffs in the NL this season, LOL. Yes, he is a very good CF, defensively. Let’s just say both are having abysmal seasons right now, and there is no need for Reyes in San Diego these days. |
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 7, 2022 12:36:09 GMT -8
One offers zero defensive value and a bunch of strikeouts. The other doesn't. Team moved on for a reason. Grisham doesn’t provide a bunch of strikeouts? He’s got the 17th most whiffs in the NL this season, LOL. Yes, he is a very good CF, defensively. Let’s just say both are having abysmal seasons right now, and there is no need for Reyes in San Diego these days. I was thinking to myself that it sure seems as though Grisham strikes out a lot. Thanks for confirming. He's been having a VERY bad offensive year. |
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 7, 2022 12:37:49 GMT -8
One offers zero defensive value and a bunch of strikeouts. The other doesn't. Team moved on for a reason. Grisham doesn’t provide a bunch of strikeouts? He’s got the 17th most whiffs in the NL this season, LOL. Yes, he is a very good CF, defensively. Let’s just say both are having abysmal seasons right now, and there is no need for Reyes in San Diego these days. And yet the rates aren't in the same stratosphere: 37.1% and 24.7%. And DH is pretty much covered you would think. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2022 12:48:21 GMT -8
Grisham doesn’t provide a bunch of strikeouts? He’s got the 17th most whiffs in the NL this season, LOL. Yes, he is a very good CF, defensively. Let’s just say both are having abysmal seasons right now, and there is no need for Reyes in San Diego these days. And yet the rates aren't in the same stratosphere: 37.1% and 24.7%. And DH is pretty much covered you would think. Agreed. Grisham at least produces a positive WAR this year, because of his defensive ability. Reyes is -0.9. Still, if a franchise can get him right, Reyes was a near lock for 30 homers and an .800 OPS on an annual basis. |
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Post by sdsuball on Aug 7, 2022 16:52:49 GMT -8
I wish that we could pick him up and put him in the minors.
I think that he could be a productive bat/DH for us if he had a few months to figure out what's wrong.
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Post by aztecmusician on Aug 7, 2022 18:38:44 GMT -8
The Franimal has been cut loose by the Indians errrr Guardians. Maybe a Padres reclamation project. He is hitting a paltry .213, which is actually 20 points higher than Grisham. Pull the trigger! Bring back the Franimal! To play where? Obviously a DH. The key with a guy like Franimal is to get him believing in himself and excited to come to the ballpark to swat some HR’s. He still has the ability to hit .270 with 30+ power. Do we have coaches who actually know how to teach hitting and fix/adjust swings? |
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 7, 2022 20:39:29 GMT -8
Obviously a DH. The key with a guy like Franimal is to get him believing in himself and excited to come to the ballpark to swat some HR’s. He still has the ability to hit .270 with 30+ power. Do we have coaches who actually know how to teach hitting and fix/adjust swings? We have no need for a DH. At all. He's a one tool player and can't access that tool because of poor pitch recognition. It's a bad fit all the way around. Move on from players like that. |
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Post by sdsuball on Aug 7, 2022 20:53:44 GMT -8
Obviously a DH. The key with a guy like Franimal is to get him believing in himself and excited to come to the ballpark to swat some HR’s. He still has the ability to hit .270 with 30+ power. Do we have coaches who actually know how to teach hitting and fix/adjust swings? We have no need for a DH. At all. He's a one tool player and can't access that tool because of poor pitch recognition. It's a bad fit all the way around. Move on from players like that. ...because the idea is that we can rotate who gets rest once Tatis is back. Some days Kim will be at SS with Tatis at DH, some days Kim at 3B with Manny at DH, some days Kim on the bench with someone else (Drury, Myers) at DH. But we could still use him as a part time DH/pinch hitter come playoff time, if he was back to his old self. Big power bat off the bench in the playoffs? Yes please. |
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 7, 2022 20:56:15 GMT -8
We have no need for a DH. At all. He's a one tool player and can't access that tool because of poor pitch recognition. It's a bad fit all the way around. Move on from players like that. ...because the idea is that we can rotate who gets rest once Tatis is back. Some days Kim will be at SS with Tatis at DH, some days Kim at 3B with Manny at DH, some days Kim on the bench with someone else (Drury, Myers) at DH. But we could still use him as a part time DH/pinch hitter come playoff time, if he was back to his old self. Big power bat off the bench in the playoffs? Yes please. Should have kept Voit, if that was indeed a thing. You're not really worried about a bench DH in the playoffs. He's not capable of playing the field, so it's in essence a wasted roster spot. When Fernando returns, there's more than enough power. |
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Post by sdsuball on Aug 7, 2022 21:25:36 GMT -8
...because the idea is that we can rotate who gets rest once Tatis is back. Some days Kim will be at SS with Tatis at DH, some days Kim at 3B with Manny at DH, some days Kim on the bench with someone else (Drury, Myers) at DH. But we could still use him as a part time DH/pinch hitter come playoff time, if he was back to his old self. Big power bat off the bench in the playoffs? Yes please. Should have kept Voit, if that was indeed a thing. You're not really worried about a bench DH in the playoffs. He's not capable of playing the field, so it's in essence a wasted roster spot. When Fernando returns, there's more than enough power. I don't really see it as a waste. Most games don't go 13 innings. It's very rare that there is a game where we use all of our position players. Plus, we have a ton of positional flexibility with Kim, Cronenworth, Drury, Nola. That lowers the need for an extra position player (and obviously Franimal could play RF in a pinch). There is real value in having a strong pinch hitter off the bench. Just like there is real value in having a fast pinch runner off the bench. In an ideal world, we would have an extremely quick utility player off the bench (basically Kim on days where we have someone other then Manny or Tatis at DH), and a power pinch hitter who could be used as a RF or 1B in a pinch. Franmil would fit that bill if he could figure it out as a hitter again. Really it's more about tradeoffs then anything else. |
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