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Jul 17, 2022 16:53:19 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 17, 2022 16:53:19 GMT -8
Padres select Dylan Lesko at #15 overall. Had Tommy John in April and was in line to be the #1 pick potentially before the injury. Double plus changeup, plus fastball, good command.
Preller did it again.
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Jul 17, 2022 17:06:29 GMT -8
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 17, 2022 17:06:29 GMT -8
Padres select Dylan Lesko at #15 overall. Had Tommy John in April and was in line to be the #1 pick potentially before the injury. Double plus changeup, plus fastball, good command. Preller did it again. Hopefully.
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Jul 17, 2022 17:11:02 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 17, 2022 17:11:02 GMT -8
Padres select Dylan Lesko at #15 overall. Had Tommy John in April and was in line to be the #1 pick potentially before the injury. Double plus changeup, plus fastball, good command. Preller did it again. Hopefully. Do some research.
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Jul 17, 2022 17:19:08 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 17, 2022 17:19:08 GMT -8
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Jul 17, 2022 17:26:38 GMT -8
Post by sdsuball on Jul 17, 2022 17:26:38 GMT -8
Padres select Dylan Lesko at #15 overall. Had Tommy John in April and was in line to be the #1 pick potentially before the injury. Double plus changeup, plus fastball, good command. Preller did it again. I was really, really hoping that Rocker would still be here, but I had a feeling that he would be picked 5-10. Was hoping that Preller would move up to nab him. Our bullpen is such trash right now, being able to pick up Rocker and use him in high leverage situations as a reliever for the stretch run would have been huge IMO. Maybe there is a chance that the Rangers would trade him for Wood + a middling prospect.. although some of you might look at me as crazy for proposing that trade. Lesko was a great pickup fwiw.
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Jul 17, 2022 17:33:15 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 17, 2022 17:33:15 GMT -8
Padres select Dylan Lesko at #15 overall. Had Tommy John in April and was in line to be the #1 pick potentially before the injury. Double plus changeup, plus fastball, good command. Preller did it again. I was really, really hoping that Rocker would still be here, but I had a feeling that he would be picked 5-10. Was hoping that Preller would move up to nab him. Our bullpen is such trash right now, being able to pick up Rocker and use him in high leverage situations as a reliever for the stretch run would have been huge IMO. Maybe there is a chance that the Rangers would trade him for Wood + a middling prospect.. although some of you might look at me as crazy for proposing that trade. Lesko was a great pickup fwiw. You can't trade picks outside of the competitive balance picks, so there's no moving up to three. And yes, you're out of your mind for suggesting that.
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Jul 17, 2022 17:38:09 GMT -8
Post by sdsuball on Jul 17, 2022 17:38:09 GMT -8
I was really, really hoping that Rocker would still be here, but I had a feeling that he would be picked 5-10. Was hoping that Preller would move up to nab him. Our bullpen is such trash right now, being able to pick up Rocker and use him in high leverage situations as a reliever for the stretch run would have been huge IMO. Maybe there is a chance that the Rangers would trade him for Wood + a middling prospect.. although some of you might look at me as crazy for proposing that trade. Lesko was a great pickup fwiw. You can't trade picks outside of the competitive balance picks, so there's no moving up to three. And yes, you're out of your mind for suggesting that. You don't have to literally trade the pick though - you can do a swap where the team that you are trading with picks the player you want at the moved up draft spot, then you execute the trade after the draft. Right? They do that in football all the time.
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Jul 17, 2022 17:40:04 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 17, 2022 17:40:04 GMT -8
Padres select Dylan Lesko at #15 overall. Had Tommy John in April and was in line to be the #1 pick potentially before the injury. Double plus changeup, plus fastball, good command. Preller did it again. Hopefully. Just to be more informative here - Both Jackson Merrill and James Wood, drafted last year, are already Baseball America Top 100 prospects. Wood is one of the fastest rising prospects in all of minor league baseball. That pick was hated by the community because of questions surrounding Wood's work ethic, love of the game and his ability to track pitches with his long limbs. That's after he drafted Hassell and Abrams in consecutive years. If there's one thing that AJ, Chris Kemp, Mark Conner and the scouting/crosscheckers do well, it's talent identification.
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Jul 17, 2022 17:45:55 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 17, 2022 17:45:55 GMT -8
You can't trade picks outside of the competitive balance picks, so there's no moving up to three. And yes, you're out of your mind for suggesting that. You don't have to literally trade the pick though - you can do a swap where the team that you are trading with picks the player you want at the moved up draft spot, then you execute the trade after the draft. Right? They do that in football all the time. Prior to the Trea Turner fiasco, no player could be dealt within the first year in their organization. Now, that rule has been changed, but I don't believe the CBA allows for this situation. I am glad on that front, didn't want Rocker at all.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 17, 2022 18:34:49 GMT -8
Just to be more informative here - Both Jackson Merrill and James Wood, drafted last year, are already Baseball America Top 100 prospects. Wood is one of the fastest rising prospects in all of minor league baseball. That pick was hated by the community because of questions surrounding Wood's work ethic, love of the game and his ability to track pitches with his long limbs. That's after he drafted Hassell and Abrams in consecutive years. If there's one thing that AJ, Chris Kemp, Mark Conner and the scouting/crosscheckers do well, it's talent identification. Preller, et al, are definitely good at identifying talent. I'm hoping he doesn't have arm issues going forward, and more Tommy John surgeries.
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Jul 17, 2022 18:50:54 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 17, 2022 18:50:54 GMT -8
Just to be more informative here - Both Jackson Merrill and James Wood, drafted last year, are already Baseball America Top 100 prospects. Wood is one of the fastest rising prospects in all of minor league baseball. That pick was hated by the community because of questions surrounding Wood's work ethic, love of the game and his ability to track pitches with his long limbs. That's after he drafted Hassell and Abrams in consecutive years. If there's one thing that AJ, Chris Kemp, Mark Conner and the scouting/crosscheckers do well, it's talent identification. Preller, et al, are definitely good at identifying talent. I'm hoping he doesn't have arm issues going forward, and more Tommy John surgeries. 8.5% of pitchers require more than one TJ. It's exceedingly rare. The upside is well worth it.
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Jul 17, 2022 18:52:06 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 17, 2022 18:52:06 GMT -8
Padres go back to the prep pitching well with Robby Snelling, a lefty from Reno. Snelling's an LSU commit and a stud football player. But he's up to 95 on the mound and a tremendous athlete. Some evaluators have the Padres taking the top two pitchers in the draft.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 17, 2022 19:08:44 GMT -8
Preller, et al, are definitely good at identifying talent. I'm hoping he doesn't have arm issues going forward, and more Tommy John surgeries. 8.5% of pitchers require more than one TJ. It's exceedingly rare. The upside is well worth it. Yeah, they say with one TJ you'll be close to full strength, and if they have a second one, many say that you won't have as long of a career, and you won't be nearly what you could have been. Of course, there's exceptions. That's why he fell into the Padres laps. That fear, I'm sure.
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Jul 17, 2022 19:25:17 GMT -8
Post by sdsuball on Jul 17, 2022 19:25:17 GMT -8
You don't have to literally trade the pick though - you can do a swap where the team that you are trading with picks the player you want at the moved up draft spot, then you execute the trade after the draft. Right? They do that in football all the time. Prior to the Trea Turner fiasco, no player could be dealt within the first year in their organization. Now, that rule has been changed, but I don't believe the CBA allows for this situation. I am glad on that front, didn't want Rocker at all. Got it. There is definitely a wide divergence of opinions on Rocker. Curious as to why you didn't want Rocker.. would you have felt that way if Lesko was off the board and Rocker was available at 15?
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 17, 2022 19:32:51 GMT -8
Prior to the Trea Turner fiasco, no player could be dealt within the first year in their organization. Now, that rule has been changed, but I don't believe the CBA allows for this situation. I am glad on that front, didn't want Rocker at all. Got it. There is definitely a wide divergence of opinions on Rocker. Curious as to why you didn't want Rocker.. would you have felt that way if Lesko was off the board and Rocker was available at 15? College arms are used and abused with no real concern for their long-term viability. Rocker threw a TON of pitches at Vandy and has already had multiple shoulder issues. Lesko was my number one choice from the jump.
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Jul 17, 2022 19:41:53 GMT -8
Post by sdsuball on Jul 17, 2022 19:41:53 GMT -8
Got it. There is definitely a wide divergence of opinions on Rocker. Curious as to why you didn't want Rocker.. would you have felt that way if Lesko was off the board and Rocker was available at 15? College arms are used and abused with no real concern for their long-term viability. Rocker threw a TON of pitches at Vandy and has already had multiple shoulder issues. Lesko was my number one choice from the jump. Threw like a 130 pitch no hitter lol. Insane workload at Vandy. Shoulder issues have a tendency to not go away so I understand where you're coming from. He could end up as a successful starter, but he could also end up being an injury-prone reliever.
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Jul 17, 2022 19:49:46 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 17, 2022 19:49:46 GMT -8
College arms are used and abused with no real concern for their long-term viability. Rocker threw a TON of pitches at Vandy and has already had multiple shoulder issues. Lesko was my number one choice from the jump. Threw like a 130 pitch no hitter lol. Insane workload at Vandy. Shoulder issues have a tendency to not go away so I understand where you're coming from. He could end up as a successful starter, but he could also end up being an injury-prone reliever. Exactly. Lesko's ceiling is higher.
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Jul 17, 2022 20:04:01 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 17, 2022 20:04:01 GMT -8
Padres round out the day with another arm - RHP Adam Mazur from the University of Iowa. Big Ten pitcher of the year, was considered to be a first rounder on talent throughout the spring.
Three picks, three arms. All were inside Keith Law's top 35 overall. Mazur was ranked 59th on MLB.com's list. Seems like a much needed infusion of youth in the system is on the docket.
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Post by sdsuball on Jul 17, 2022 21:31:26 GMT -8
Threw like a 130 pitch no hitter lol. Insane workload at Vandy. Shoulder issues have a tendency to not go away so I understand where you're coming from. He could end up as a successful starter, but he could also end up being an injury-prone reliever. Exactly. Lesko's ceiling is higher. I kind of see it the opposite - they have the same ceiling (I mean Rocker throws a 98 mph fastball alongside other strong pitches, if healthy he's an ace), but Rocker is more likely to be a bust then Lesko. I liked the Rocker pick because I see him as major league ready (at least in relief). Lesko's ceiling is higher but he's a few years away from the majors. So it's more about discounting future prospect value vs present value (for me at least), which is the only reason why I see them as equal value right now. And I have little confidence in our bullpen right now, and also little confidence that we will be able to pick up a good reliever before the deadline, with our need for a big bat and luxury tax issues. I hope to be proven wrong on that front!
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Jul 17, 2022 21:54:30 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 17, 2022 21:54:30 GMT -8
Exactly. Lesko's ceiling is higher. I kind of see it the opposite - they have the same ceiling (I mean Rocker throws a 98 mph fastball alongside other strong pitches, if healthy he's an ace), but Rocker is more likely to be a bust then Lesko. I liked the Rocker pick because I see him as major league ready (at least in relief). Lesko's ceiling is higher but he's a few years away from the majors. So it's more about discounting future prospect value vs present value (for me at least), which is the only reason why I see them as equal value right now. And I have little confidence in our bullpen right now, and also little confidence that we will be able to pick up a good reliever before the deadline, with our need for a big bat and luxury tax issues. I hope to be proven wrong on that front! I see Rocker more as a #2. The breaking stuff has been inconsistent and his velocity has been up and down after Vandy. Throw in the medical red flags and the known quantity of the injuries, I just see Lesko on a different plane. Better command, an elite changeup, clean mechanics and hasn't been ridden like a horse in the SEC. While he will take longer to get to the bigs, I don't think it ultimately matters. Rocker will be 23 this fall.
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